I didn't get it. What was the message?

I didn't get it. What was the message?

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Just watched this last night. Bad movie. Zero tension. Tonally schizophrenic. Bad acting (besides Lupita). The plot makes zero sense.

It's like Peele wrote an idea on a napkin while dining out with his rich, white, trust fund kiddie friends at the 11th hour and developed it out during toilet sessions.

Shieeeet wypipo be crazy.

It was about the class system and how hard it is to move up and how your environment shapes you (as seen by the Ada/Red switch).

Lower class = the clones in the basement
Middle class = the black family
Upper class = their white friends

How did he go from something so good (Get Out) to something so bad? Did he only have one in him?

The white family was upper middle class

no they weren't

Goes to show how terrible they fleshed out these characters. We barely got to know anyone, so we don't give a shit what happens to them. The scope of the movie was too big, Peele didn't know how to manage that effectively. Too much time wasted on that home invasion part, the stuff with Heidecker and senpai feels like an afterthought. Really bad movie.

white bad

That Peele is a black and should be taken seriously because he's really trying.

Cut your pebis off and dilate

>tfw the clones literally fucked everything up, because they were clearly incapable of being anything other than blood thirsty savages, and instead of trying to fix the problem, they just killed
Hmmm, that's some big brain energy if Peel was trying to do anything OTHER than say the poor are horrid and just want to take other peoples hard work away from them kek.

There isn't one. It's just pseudo-deep cryptic rambling and vaguely "unsettling" imagery designed to look good in a trailer

The whole "People attacked by clones of themselves" idea reminds me of this
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it's a double allegory: two allegories at once, in keeping with the doppleganger theme.

the one everyone gets is about class: the socialist uprising by the clones with their mad dream of national togetherness.

the other one is about the idea that in order to actually achieve anything you have to listen to your buried, dark side. this is set up from one of the first scenes where Adelaide is offered the chance to get a prize from the top level but settles for one from the middle, and paid off at the end by intercutting the fight with ballet.

US is legitimately too smart for Yea Forums, and apparently a lot of horror audiences, but the movie made $250 million so I doubt Peele cares that people think they've found a plot hole by recognizing that millions of clones living in tunnels isn't very plausible.

I've never seen this movie, but judging solely based on the image you posted, something along the lines of FUCK WHITE PEOPLE AND FUCK DRUMPF!!!!!!!!

Peele just did the standard newsreel "this is what is happening broadly" thing that goes back to Night of the Living Dead. it worked great for me.

Adelaide/Red was the instigator of all the events, so it made sense to focus on the main family. worrying about specifics would have taken away the dreamlike tone, like explaining everything in a Lynch film.

I thought there was an alagory about the 2016 election in there too. An ignored class of Americans rise up, wearing red to build a wall across America.

>fun horror movie

GUYYSYSYS WHATST THE FUCKING MESSAGE CAN SNAPCAHT TELL ME THE TWIST ENDING GUSGHGHAGHHDGSAHGS

Very insightful

It was a warning to liberals who think Trump voters aren't "the real America" etc

sadly this. I found the adult characters were simply shallow, materialistic and lacking any depth. While the clones had a drive.

no. Maybe you should watch it and try to find its themes.

nah, I'm not going to believe you and just go with my initial assumption

What I said applies to the family, too. What do we know about the daughter? Oh she's a runner (something which doesn't come into play really). The son? He likes his mask. The dad? He's cheesy. They're all so poorly developed. Hell, what do we know about Lupita's character? She has trouble speaking, she danced, and...? These were shallow characters across the board.

Get Out, we learn all about Daniel Kuluya's guy. Easygoing dude, chip on his shoulder about being black and dating a white girl, a quiet skeptic. We learn about the family very well. Dad is probably someone Peele has met, upper crust race-pandering whitey who takes pride in plastering his walls with shit. Hippie bleeding heart mom type twisted into a voodoo or whatever expert. Dickhead brother, showoff, heartless. Daughter a cold, calculating soldier in the family, the type of woman you find yourself married to one day by accident. Even the comic relief friend had a personality.

Nobody in Us gets to shine except Lupita, who did an amazing job.

no problem man.

>a wall
what? Hands Across America actually happened. Peele didn't invent it for the movie.

it was absolutely sending up the sixties/liberal dream of everyone holding hands, although respected the idea that Red's motives were sincere.

another thing people miss (and reacted as if it was a plot hole) is that the clones were kept underground by... a down escalator.

the clones didn't represent Trump voters. I don't think Peele cares about PARTY politics very much, oddly, although he loves shitting on identity politics.

it was intentional. at the scene where the family sit around a table, Adelaide's daughter is giving up on track and field, she says she wants to learn to drive instead.

then when the clones show up, she starts out having to run away from her clone on foot, but later beats the clone by driving a car. the ending represents Middle America returning to their lives of underachieving mediocrity.

one side-effect of Netflix and box sets is people are too used to having everything explained over a Tv-show length running time. movie writing should be about efficiency and thank god Peele understands that even if audiences don't.

>too smart for Yea Forums and apparently a lot of horror audiences
It really isn't very smart at all. It doesn't bludgeon you over the head with its themes, but they're all right there if you bother looking for them. The execution, though, was poor. The script wasn't great. Even the cinematography, while good in parts, didn't do enough to elicit much tension.

For example, the dad is being pursued by Evil Tim and the camera just sticks about 10 feet behind either character just above them. It's a very basic shot. The dad, who's been limping around from the first encounter, has plenty of time to SHAMBLE his way around away from Evil Tim. Not for one second did I think he was in any real danger. There was no >implication. Was I supposed to be afraid? Was it supposed to be funny?

The scene when Evil Tim and Evil Family rush into the frame and kill them, starting with the twins. It just kind of happens too cleanly. Then they play it for laughs with Fuck Da Police.

Everything seemed perfunctory rather than fueled by any kind of passion.

The clones are the reluctant and irrational side of us. When the people on the surface do things they do it because they like it. But there is always part of a person who doesn't feel like doing it.

It doesn't bludgeon you over the head with its themes, but they're all right there if you bother looking for them

this is why i am interested in his next film if it uses the horror theme.

It could be allegorical of different things, the imagery of people building a wall is relevant in the Trump era even if hands across America really happened. This theory is a little bit of a reach but it makes sense to me, it felt like an intentionally "post-Trump" movie. The clones can be a stand in for any group of poor or "flyover" Americans. The last shot of the film is literally "flying over" the Americans.

These are fine points, but it still didn't make for an entertaining movie. I was thrilled, I was laughing, I wasn't worried about the characters. If he did in fact make the "real" characters shallow for a reason, the narrative is no longer compelling because we don't care about them then. You can have dickhead protagonists, you can have outright evil protagonists, and we can find things to identify with and enjoy watching them even if we don't like them very much. But boring protagonists? Meh.

I can live with all the plot holes, of which there are many. Plenty of plot hole-ridden movies are saved by the other elements of filmmaking. Us didn't deliver on those other elements very well, IMO.

it was dumb. Pretty disappointing considering Get Out was great

I might not have liked Us, but I'm also looking forward to whatever he makes next. I'm hoping Get Out wasn't the one good thing he had in him. This is only his second movie, so he's got time to get better. At the very least, I'm happy to see something unique even if I didn't like it.

>Not an entertaining movie
>I was thrilled, I was laughing

*wasn't thriller, *wasn't laughing* I meant to say

Why is she wearing a mask? The mask is identical to her face and has the eyes cut out so her eyes will also look the same. This mask serves no purpose.

I can't convince myself to see this movie with a poster so stupid.

This was a petty decent Black Mirror episode

these are some specific criticisms.

however, you can't talk like almost literally all horror films aren't complete and total fucking shit. I saw Midsommar last week, and Hereditary yesterday, and holy fuck they both fucking stunk. at least Peele is trying.

but yeah it was meant to be funny, just like a lot of Get Out. rigid genres are for fags. I predicted long in advance just from the tone that the whole family would survive, as the movie is about them successfully repressing their dark-sides to return to underachievement. no adult should find any horror film scary.

your problem (and I totally get it) is partly your expectation. I guess my sense of comedy/horror is just more in line with Peele's.

I got a mask for you right here bro

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I fully expected the switch when she flashes back early on and the mom says "I just want my daughter back". It still doesn't really work, even if you fill in all the gaps with headcanon.

It was a movie filled with good ideas tied together by half-assed filler.

I love horror comedies, I just think Us didn't balance it out well enough. To me, it was like he was sitting on the fence the whole time. I like it when a horror comedy jumps head first into either side every now and then. The Burbs, one of the all time greats, is mostly a comedy with horror elements. Tucker and Dale, a very good movie, is mostly a horror with comedic elements.

Most horror movies are complete shit and I'm glad to see him taking the genre into other places, this one just didn't click for me.

Whitey bad

he was trying to balance the tone intentionally: the movie does rely on some level of actual suspense, but yeah, typical horror comedy isn't guilty of being quite as tasteful in managing the extremes.

I'm going to have to watch T&DvE now, so thanks for the rec.

No one is truly free until we are all free.

did you even watch the movie

Based, got dragged to it, movie was trash, save your time

People are puppets controlled by the government. How did you not get that?

whitey bad.
orange man bad.
pay preparations.
tyrone was a good boy.
he dindu nuffin.