HoH:Nick Veto:Bimbo Noms:Big Jess & Hogg Nightmare Power:Ovi, forces HOH to make new noms at night, lasts 6 weeks Chaos Power:Jack, he can stand and redo the veto picks. lasts until final 6 Panic Power: Christi, Diamond Power of Veto, lasts 4 weeks Camp Comeback:evictees stay in the house until battleback
Same here. This is my first live season. Same goes for Love Island. Survivor isnt long for this world bro
Colton Turner
i think it is. doesnt want the judgement of the house though.
Grayson Reed
what kinda judgement would that be?
Joseph Sanchez
think it was because david was a pariah when he first came into the house and she didnt want to be associated with him. but now after people have started to warm up to him, shes getting a little closer. i dont know what imeant
There's multiple boot lists circulating, so idk what to believe just yet. Eventually there's gonna be one that's legit though since all-star seasons do get spoiled.
you're a moron publicly, the backdoor target is nicole within the 6, they are planning to keep nicole and evict cliff to blindside nick and bella and then target them the next week kat is almost definitely pulling down jess
these dips are easily explained. wed, preparing for july 4th, thurs, nathan's hot dog eating contest, and sunday everyone was at church
Leo Turner
>michies sloppy seconds
Juan Thompson
be nice to bbo
Zachary Perry
Yeah but look at the core demo, its way low for that viewership which means it's all cryptkeeper boomers watching it
David Roberts
>liana saturdays! woo! based
Ayden Edwards
Jesus fuck you retarded n-bombs dont work in the fucking entertainment industry like I do. And I'm nobody important but here's how this works.
Take a scripted show, lets say Stranger Things. Stranger Things gets an audience, that's good. People who will continue to watch ST season 2, 3, 4, whatever. So of course, you want to make more seasons of ST.
Now comes the problem. You need the same cast. Eleven wants a raise, Winona Ryder wants a raise. You can kill off a character here and there to stop paying them (or go full Walking Dead) but the longer your show goes on, and the bigger audience it gets, eventually you're paying Sheldon Cooper & Cersei Lannister $1 million per episode.
This is true for a lot of reality shows as well, paying Simon Cowell, paying the coaches on the Voice, paying the Kardashians. You take a chance that people will still watch American Idol without Simon/Paula/Randy as the judges, but ratings still go down.
Not Survivor, Big Brother, or The Amazing Race though. Even with the prize for the winner, you're finding a random group of nobodies and paying them shit. And the fanbases of these respective shows still tune in.
Big Brother is so cheap to make that fucking Wendy's pretty much funds BB Canada in exchange for having a Wendy's walk-up counter in the storage room. You guys make BBCancelled jokes, what saved it was shilling Baconators.
All three shows have been around since like 2001 and are tremendous moneymakers for CBS. Remember when ABC tried to steal the concept with Glass House? CBS literally took ABC to court that the concept was too similar to Big Brother and settled.
This shit ain't getting cancelled
Joshua Morgan
CBS better swallow their pride and work out a deal with Netflix to save this show. Its built for bingeing in America
Samuel Gutierrez
cope
Christopher Collins
>belly button infection
Adam Flores
the fact you retards can't make a legit counterargument and just bait me weakly shows you have no fucking idea what you're talking about
Blake Thompson
it's over bros, time to switch to the Challenge
Xavier Cox
Early Netflix paid BIG money early on for all these reality shows but then found out that people dont watch 1 year old reality shows. They didn't renew the contracts.
John Perry
you know, bbcan7 actually got me picking wendys again in the rare cases i get fast food. it's fucking delicious compared to most similar fast food places. i bet they make the money back on that given how cheap i'm sure bbcan is. it's also a legitimate incentive to win HOH for people who are on the edge. you can't get a fast food burger in there for months. if you've been on slop for a while i'm sure it's got to be tempting.
Kayden Phillips
i watch one year old reality shows i watch 15 year old reality shows
Luke Rivera
I remember some HG (Audrey?) that melted down hard enough that production sent an intern to Burger King and got them a whopper with fries
They started talking about it on feeds and then cut to fish
Caleb Sanchez
audrey from bb17 is having a meltdown on twitter
Isaac Parker
>bbcancelled retard falls for shitty marketing anybody surprised here?
Colton Watson
>larping on a /bb/ Isn't it too early for you to be off your meds, buddy?
Oliver Bell
>1 second apart whoa
Jason Thomas
>gets called a "thing" by Big Brother houseguest >nobody cares and said player wins America's Favorite Houseguest 2 months later
surprised it took this while
Jack James
Eh she's just ranting, not really melting down. She's not entirely wrong, either.
Colton Ortiz
audrey's that one who cut off her penis, right?
Andrew King
>i watch one year old reality shows >i watch 15 year old reality shows and 15 thousand people watch Bong-Appetit--and on a planet of 7 billion that's a rounding error.
>low ratings back to back seasons >no paul the last two seasons hmmmmmmm.
Xavier Clark
the ratings are GUMPY as fuck
Christian Young
everyone thought jess would be the kino eater this season how wrong we were
Jose Scott
catlady cams don’t show her eating as much
Jaxon Bailey
Why are you calling her Quarky?
Caleb Moore
yup, iirc bb19 is one of the most viewed bb seasons.
Ethan Thomas
This is true, but BB could get rid of Grodner and no one would care. BB gets 6M viewers in spite of Grodner, not because of her.
OTT showed that a bunch of interns can run the show and it still would go on. I'd get rid of Grodner and Julie and their big paychecks. Survivor needs Jeff, BB doesn't need Julie.
Liam Campbell
>fans tune in to see him succeed >haters tune in to see him fail
Even though Paul is a manlet asshole, he gives the editors enough footage for the show. You can be a turd 90% of the time but if you give them 15 minutes of good stuff a week, the editors can make you look like a BB god. This cast is just mean and boring.
Leo Robinson
serious question, but why do people think dr will is better than paul, when dr will would lose in a modern bb season? both paul and dr will played very similar games
Yeah I mean she's not wrong but the naiveté on display here is not a good look.
Aiden Mitchell
we need ARISA!!!
Jace Bailey
yeah the fact that she thought big brother production had a different goal is the retarded part
Jose Morris
if Will is evicted early on in BB2, BBUS would be just one of the dozens of failed early 00s reality shows that got canceled after 1-2 seasons
Luis Turner
based Shannon going full retard with a toothbrush and saving bb forever
Owen Bailey
yes. these people have very little grasp on reality
Jeremiah Williams
>she
Evan Barnes
I watched BB2 in 2001, and at the time and Dr. Will was just another contestant. He really didn't drive the ratings at the time. His legend didn't get started until BB7. BB3 goes on with our without Dr. Will.
Anthony Reyes
audrey is based, she made early bb17 so much fun be nice
Brandon Howard
we all know it’s a dude but it gets confusing if we don’t call it by what it is commonly called
Connor Butler
this.
Juan Williams
its cost-effective, and has a lot to do with Fly on the Wall Entertainment, co-run by Grodner & Rich Meehan
they would need a very good reason to get rid of Grodner, better than "this years cast sucked" or "we'd rather pay this other person to do your job cheaper".
There's a lot of legal shit involved with production companies and showrunners who essentially make the show and hand-deliver it to the network. Same reason why HBO can't just find another showrunner and keep Game of Thrones going despite D&D wanting it to end stupidly.
Again, Walking Dead is one of the few shows that did exactly that, and now the fired showrunner wants $300 million
I watched BB2 in 2001 and you're a fucking retard. Will was a breakout superstar just like Richard Hatch, Rudy, or Colby from the first Survivor seasons.
The first season's cast was extremely boring, then you had this attractive manchild who played the game by pretending to not play the game
Dani Reyes S3 was another breakout star.
Nolan Bell
dunno, without Will Big Brother would go the road of early Survivor before Rob C and Johnny Fairplay (which were also directy influenced by him) where it's all about challenge wins and loyalty and BB didn't have an advantage of starting with 50mil viewers, if nobody else shakes up strategy and metagame it would fizzle out way more quickly
Julian Morgan
>played against a bunch of retards who didnt know what the fuck they were doing in bb2 >people love to forgot how badly chilltown got BTFO in bb2 >literally only made it far because there was no veto >threw a temper tantrum and said he will only come to bb7 if his fuck buddy boogie was there >only made it far in bb7 because he was bribing hgs for him to stay name a more overrated winner, you fucking cant
cause based on her pre-show appearance they thought she would be some kind of autismo.. turns out she is just a generic person with emotional issues
Ethan Thomas
>I'll shit on Will because in the year 2001 I wasn't born yet: the post
Dylan Gonzalez
being in denial is also not an argument
Brandon Williams
what doubt you retard?
Jonathan Johnson
Based on her pre-season bio and interviews she looked like she might be a manic pixie quirky type girl. Turns out she's fairly normal but the name stuck.
Dominic Cooper
>Will was a breakout superstar just like Richard Hatch, Rudy, or Colby from the first Survivor seasons. LOL no. bb was irrelevant as FUCK
Yea this, I was in 8th grade at the time, Survivor was talked about all throughout school and stuff, I remember discussion of BB when it first began but it petered off quickly, I didn't even know they changed the format for season 2, no one was talking about it by then
>cliff is told he was caught speaking too loud in the boat room >still there speaking at the same volume
Landon Morgan
he should get his fishing wire out and rig it to the door handle. start talking loud shit in there and wait for someone to try and listen. then pull the door open from his sitting position
many past HGs have hosted comps and never played again. they move on and have professions that wont allow for them to take the summer off. in her case she is a loser with nothing going on anyway so she would jump at the chance. probably agree to take half stipend
Isaiah Clark
>in her case she is a loser with nothing going on anyway so she would jump at the chance. probably agree to take half stipend and that’s a good thing!
Dylan Edwards
Next sesson will be returnee for sure. Partially anyway. Vet seasons get the best ratings. BB16 will prob be the oldest season they grab vets from i imagine.
John Parker
she was not entertaining
Tyler Lee
you dummies are strawmanning the argument. Peak survivor was always more of a cultural thing than peak BB.
There's a reason why in All-Stars, Monica and Bunky weren't voted in but Production ensured Will that his BFF - who got voted out 4th the first time around - would get to play the game with him
Imagine if Dan had the clout to get Brian, or Angie, or Steven as one of the other coaches on BB14. That's how much Will meant to BB
Ethan Robinson
her puzzle failure was top tier television but I hated her on the feeds
you are foutte tier genius levels if it took you this long to figure that out
Kayden Bennett
Yea I support your thesis
Nathan Wilson
no shit buddy...
I like Taran so I’d be okay with it
Jack Smith
and you are a retard because you just proved my point LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
David Foster
you knows hes gay right?
Luis Long
I’m gonna go get lunch y’all better have cooled down the autism when I get back
Nolan Wright
poor cliff talking like he has such a good grasp. he has no idea he is finished
Zachary White
Ratings wise, Big Brother 2 was nowhere near Survivor. BB had about 8M viewers at a time without streaming or major cable shows. Survivor 2 had 30M viewers.
James Martinez
yo clif they are going to blast the music in a minute or two why are you going back to bed
Should they cast more old people? It seems a little harsh to have Cliff be the only boomer in the house. Instantly puts him at a disadvantage.
Sebastian Bailey
no. nobody wants to see more boomers
Benjamin Moore
season 1 had a million more viewers than season 2
s3, 4 and 5 all had more viewers than s2
Xavier Cox
I like gay people
Brody Nguyen
BB needs to cast closer to Survivor, shorten the season, and quicken the pace to the CBB schedule. 50-60 days with two evictions per week. 99 days is just a slog and by August it becomes tedious.
Jace Cook
bb21 is averaging 4.42m over 7 episodes
far below bb20 avg of 5.41m which is the series low
Jose Turner
‘no’
Cameron Gray
Only if they're cool. The last few have been duds.
Xavier Allen
only 6 season have been 90 days or more with 2 of them being 90 and 92 days.
75 seems like the sweet spot
Luis Bennett
deeds
Aiden Baker
If they shorten it to 50-60 days, they could fit two seasons into the Summer and not have that month of dead space in between the end of survivor and the start of BB.
Jason Kelly
Also, OTT seemed to be the right length of a season at 65 days.
they could only do this if they bring back something like OTT with a lower budget and no house major house renovation between. no way are they going to get dual houses going
Andrew Watson
That's what I meant, you have about 120 days between the Spring Survivor season and the Fall Survivor Season. They could either do two 55ish day seasons or have a normal 75 day season and a short 35-40 day season. The short season could feature Survivor alumni or an older cast that can't do the 3 month long seasons.
These Instagram model casts are getting old.
Connor Gomez
god this season fucking sucks
Jason Cox
id like to see at least 16 hgs though. if that means expediting the evictions or adding 10 more days i will take either
they absolutely need to straddle 2 months so all-access subs have to buy 2 months lol
Samuel Ward
my internet went out what happened after kemi's eviction?
Nolan Nguyen
Jessica is 38 which is boomer by bb standards
Benjamin James
she got in bellas face and bella touched her and got scolded by the DR. then kemi sat at the table mhmming and snapping her fingers internally
Caleb Rodriguez
crying
Alexander Collins
Even though the game play of Celebrity BB sucked, I liked the pace. They could do a 16 player season in about 75 days using that schedule. Start off the first few weeks as normal and then kick it into high gear as soon as jury starts.
James Scott
no and... NOO.. its a terrible format and that is why the gameplay sucks. its not enough time for a real pressure cooker. i know the downtime sucks but thats what creates it. CBB sucks because it moves too fast
Connor Jones
>she
Kayden Evans
>tfw you realize you are Winston without the good looks
Dylan Thompson
im audrey without the inverted penis
Liam Jones
r u a grill
David Kelly
>not a single reply is about the feeds its that boring huh?
Nathaniel Perez
david switching the coffee for decaf is a micro-aggression
Evan Ortiz
only girls are allowed in /bb/
Michael Campbell
theres nothing going on. david is babbling incessantly in the kitchen and kemi and nicole are in the camper having the same convo they were having last night for like 6 hours
Dylan Brooks
devinsploitable.png has hit a setback. somehow instead of erasing everything around him, I was just painting it a similar shade of grey. it was about 50% done before I even realized it. >mfw
thank you for subscribing, remember to ring that bell for notifications and consider donating to my gaytreon
they are just letting the HGs sleep rather than have to deal with censoring them with fish
Joseph Harris
david wears his uniform less than 50% of the time
Thomas Jones
apparently they planned on letting them sleep in the day after veto this season. i still miss when they would just let them sleep all day cause they would talk all night for us neets
Jayden Thomas
am i living in some kind of bizarro world where i can’t see all this cruel, abominable, irredeemable behavior everybody is freaking out about? and instead i’m just seeing a season that has an average or below average level of mean behavior?
all tv's shows agenda is to make money, thats how it works. ive not seen any bigotry and that shot at julie is uncalled for but shes right about the twists
Samuel Cooper
they just got called out by bob. hopefully they start playing the angry ones soon
John Adams
i don’t think they’ll be happy until the show is cancelled. and some of the people complaining are “superfans” and/or former players. how did they ever become a fan of the show if what they’re seeing right now horrifies them this much?
Isaiah Johnson
>and you have to drive to me because a judge took away my license!
because she does the job well and is authentic as a reality tv host can be. it would be really weird with someone else desu. its a personal shot at julie while she complains about how people act on the show
Isaiah Sanchez
kemi isnt wearing hers either. i guess they are above the game
Jayden Bell
> Jack: Why don't David, Kemi, and Ovi go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.
Wow twitter isn't going to like this
Carter King
I really don’t care who gives the shitty interviews after evictions. Actually if they give it to Paul I will fly to LA to go attend an eviction ep and boo until they cut to commercials and escort me out
Ayden White
>letting anons on 4channel who let twitter morons live in their head rent free live in your head rent free this is a head space Inception
this. Ott started the trend, it was sort of justified then but its cringe now.
Juan Johnson
minor twatter posting is ok when feeds are down or nothing is happening imo
David Bennett
i miss paul :(
Aaron Phillips
kat wants that deep dick so bad. imagine her bouncing on davids cock wearing nothing but the veto necklace
Christian Collins
I actually really like how Julie does the show. She does act like a robot, but it’s good because she doesn’t insert herself or her personality when talking to the players. She doesn’t make the show about herself.
Blake Peterson
I’m just shocked that people think that there is anyone alive today who is not bigoted towards one group or another. the self delusion is wild. we’re all bigots in some form or fashion and pretending you’re not is delusional, just accept it and get the fuck over it. try to improve your own behavior and stop trying to impose your own arbitrary will on people, it’s fucking annoying and it doesn’t change anything for the positive.
Nicholas Murphy
insisting that she calls herself Julie Chen Moonves is kind of making it about herself but it could be ross and jewmanji tier ego shit so Julie really isn’t that bad
Jason Fisher
Have sex
Zachary Scott
this is why I like chenbot too. well said.
Kayden Jenkins
bbo pls calm down
Lincoln Turner
graduate high school
Carson Morris
>going on twitter to find tweets by literally who's just to get mad about vs >browsing /bb/ and getting annoyed by the people who keep posting the tweets in the thread no you're right both of these things are the exact same
r8 my BB all stars 2 cast >male Tyler (BB20) Brett (BB20) Johnny Mac (BB17) Devin (BB16) Derrick (BB16) Enzo (BB12) Paulie (BB18) Ian (BB14) >female Vanessa (BB17) Keesha (BB10) Becky (BB17) Gina (BB15) Chima (BB11) Kaitlyn (BB20) Shelby (OTT) Alex (OTT) r8. i would do this on bransteele but im too lazy
it’s funny how every time these are posted the female HGs are way weaker than the male
Elijah Rogers
all if fine except kaitlyn and nobody from pre bb14 is going to play again
Leo Peterson
>Another betas following the alphas cast It's like it's human nature or something
Cooper Lewis
yeah i was having a harder time trying to find female hgs lol especially post BB14
Julian Miller
The BB21 Wikipedia article has an entire section dedicated to what Twitter retards have to say about statements that were taken out of context. Of course it’s one-sided and leaves out crucial details regarding what what said.
How does it feel knowing that if you vomit your thoughts onto social media with enough groupthink retards and click-baiting media sources backing you up, you can have your brainless thoughts immortalized on Wikipedia for ever?
Nathaniel Morgan
>Chima (BB11) u serious?
Ethan Diaz
ian
Christopher Walker
What are they going to do? It isn't like they can give them a penalty vote or nom.
Kevin Johnson
shes based as fuck
Gabriel Jones
holy shit they started a change.org petition LMFAO
right, they arent going to do anything but they are just being shitty by not playing along. shows their mentality. cody jess and whistlenut did their punishments like champs and it was much more extreme
Henry Murphy
she's one of four houseguests removed, the only one who didn't get removed for physical violence there's not a fucking chance she gets brought back
Dylan Ramirez
>How does it feel I don’t like it
Wyatt Clark
>How does it feel knowing that if you vomit your thoughts onto social media with enough groupthink retards and click-baiting media sources backing you up, you can have your brainless thoughts immortalized on Wikipedia for ever?
That's just life, man. That's the way people work. Human behavior like that doesn't really go with any specific ideology.
The coup d'etat they gave to Jeff and fucked over her HOH with was some of the most blatant Grodball bullshit that has ever happened on the show. Chima did literally nothing wrong.
Ian Brown
/bb/ threads are actually the worst part about this season. zero discussion about feeds
Juan Brown
we don’t care if you are here or not
Angel Davis
>we
Caleb Rivera
>wuz
Kevin Reed
i like how people complain about the gr8ful alliance and yet love big brother all stars
Evan Barnes
Sir, this is a family friendly board. I'm going to have to stop you right there.
I tried this but it won't let me take screenshots wtf?
Joseph Robinson
who are you quoting
Jace Rogers
nobody who complains has watched bb pre season 16
Thomas James
camp comeback easily ruined this season
Aiden Morales
I had high hopes that it would make this season kino, but yea it's shit
At least it is keeping black twitter seething
Jackson Cruz
i think once it ends things should pick up because at least most of the weak players will be gone first making the latter game kino as fuck
Evan Stewart
Derrick, on paper one of the greats but he's newer and nobody actually likes him that much
James Butler
is BB13 worth watching? its the only season i havent watched because danieles constant crying and bitching in bb8 pissed me off. shes hot though even with the monkey face
it's an unfair premise to the vets. Dick leaves early so Danielle doesn't really experience it, but the entire season revolves around the two couples, Jeff/Jordan & Brendan/Rachel When you target one, the other comes after you, hard. So the newbies kiss vet ass, with one of the all-time most useless husks of a Big Brother with his stupid Tori Spelling obsession. There's kinda a bullshit late game twist that a lot of people think is bullshit. But Dani really isn't the problem with S13
Xavier Allen
only if you really like rachel if you dont, its fucking tough to watch its basically bb19 but with more blatant rigging
Nathaniel Ward
if you factor in the skeletor rating she it the GOAT female player of all time
because targeting your own alliance in the first month is retarded
Connor Edwards
I’ve taken shits with more care than my /bb/ replies
Aiden Gutierrez
No one in this cast is that terrible at comps, except for the physical late game stuff that jess and cliff won't be able to do. No reason to think ovi and kemi are worse than like nick and holly