When did he become unsympathetic?

When he killed Mike over basically nothing.

Never 100% unsympathetic, him killing Mike is understandable, pride is one of the most natural things there is

Never

I think the whole point of the show was blurring the lines of a character so you can simultaneously be sympathetic and also unsympathetic, understand his motivations but also realise they are morally questionable.

when he fucked ted

Here

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Killing Mike had it's reasons though

No it didn't fuck off

seething Mikefag

Mike did nothing wrong.
cope away Waltfag

Don't you pay any attention to what's going on in the show Mikefag?
Sure Walt's pride was one of the reasons but it was also for his safety.

Walt even admitted later that he could get those names from Lydia as well. There was no reason for him to tell Mike about it let alone kill him.

he literally saved Jesse's life that night

Letting Mike live is risky, and killing Mike's guys while he's still alive is risky as well.

When he poisoned a child

Never. He's our protagonist, the moral center which we use to measure everything else in the show. Or are you a chick and think feelings are important?

It was for his safety. He needed to get Jesse on board to killing Gus besides he probably measured it and didn't give him lethal dose.

why arent you out patrolling crack houses and saving junkies right now, smart guy?

She was a super entitled skank who deserved to be tortured. Did you see how as soon as she found out about JESSES money, she started telling him how to spend it.

This is the moment. Mike’s comment about his pride and ego cut right through him. He murdered Mike out of spite.

when he started cooking meth. No matter the circumstances that is wrong.

Walt did nothing wrong

When he had the prison witnesses killed.

Heck yeah!!!

He started knocking on doors.

When he became king shit. But that just made me root for him harder. Honestly, I cannot believe his entire family turned on him. Not even one supporter? Really? Fucking hell so disgusting. White people know nothing about unconditional love. That's why Walt is a real nigga.

>becomes a criminal
>blacks start to sympathize with him
It checks out

yew keeled hunkle henk!

This is true. It's also their greatest strength how they can just throw their own families under the bus for moral superiority.

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she was a blackmailing cunt

fuck her

So if your family member got arrested you'd just say fuck them they deserve it? Even if it was for shit to help you out? That's some cold shit, that's family, bloodline. How can you do that?

Never. The writers' attempts to make him unsympathetic were ham-fisted and unbelievable. That's my main problem with BB (although I still like it): the main characters' personalities change significantly from season to season, but the changes aren't built to or earned.

>gets his brother in law killed
>wtf why didn’t his family support him

i always rooted for him but his ego got a bit obnoxious at times. saul is the only character who literally didnt do anything wrong

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Walt did not get Mike killed.

i always thought walt's actions were in character, what did you have a problem with?

He followed Walt's orders

As someone that just finished rewatching it, I completely disagree. Virtually every step of characterisation was earned. From s1 to s5, Walter’s shortcomings - his pride mostly - remained the same. The stakes just changed. The only character that feels a little underdeveloped was Walt Jr.

If anything the actions of people suddenly becoming moral were worse. Like Jesse's REEEEEEEEE WALT BAD NOW faggotry after they've already dissolved bodies and other shit.

I get what you’re saying to an extent, but the reason for Jesse becoming morally outraged was always consistent - children.
>Andrea’s brother murdered
>Brock’s hospitalisation
>the dirt bike boy’s murder
>the realisation that Walt poisoned Brock

>I WATCHED JANE DIE

He didn't though. That was Hank's long lost brother Isaac. Did you even watch the show retard?

When his students publicly humiliated him at the carwash.

nah that was completely warranted and understandable.

probably the decision to poison Brock. he never went that far in breaking morality. even if his hand was forced. he knew he had the knowledge and chemical knowhow to do it right, but he also knew it was traumatic and sad to do that to a child and mother. still he did it, because his family would be killed otherwise

>OMG DAD DRUGS R BAD YOUR EVIL NOW
versus
>sick my dad is a drug lord and now im a super chad by proxy

maaan, ever since I wanted to have a chrysler

he didn't. the point of the show is that despite him doing bad things, it's clear why he does everything he does, and we can see ourselves taking the same actions in his situation. even normies relate to walter. he's the definition of a desperate man.

After he killed Gus and became top dog, he became a dick to everyone due to his newfound god complex. Even then though, I still liked him because I knew what he had been through and knew he deserved to have something he could be proud of. I never stopped liking him for the duration of the show.

Also >muh poisoning a child
He gave Brock a dose of poison that he knew would never kill him, just make him sick for a few days. According to Jesse in the Season 4 finale, even if Brock hadn't gotten hospital treatment, he would have been fine after a few days. In all his genius, Walt was able to find a way to save Jesse from Gus and get rid of Gus/Tyrus/Hector without getting a single civilian killed. Walt is a creative genius.

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Because they don't show up on google maps, user.

This was the moment that the show became amazing

he was never unsympathetic, now Tony Soprano in the other hand.......

this,didnt feel even slightly bad.
stupid bitch died as she lived:being a trashy druggie

why should walt be the one to save her from her own demise when shes just a poisonous thorn in his ass?

Season 5 Episode 1 has an extremely underrated moment right at the end, when Walt comes into the bedroom and sees Skylar who is clearly waiting for some kind of apology/explanation for killing Gus, and Walt just hugs her and says "I forgive you". Memes aside, that moment makes you feel legitimately scared for Skylar, and it's a kino as fuck scene.

The whole point is that it’s up to you user

Where is it ever implied that Walt Jr had a problem with Walter being a drug kingpin? He only calls the police on him because of the fight with Skyler and because Hank was dead. When Walt and Jr had the phone conversation in Granite State, Jr doesn’t even mention the drug stuff.

Why tf else would he hate his dad and hang up on him though?

S1 ep 1

>Jane was a bad influence on Jesse

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wonder how many plates they broke to have the perfect shape

Yeah that was great. Skylar’s role within the show flipped almost instantly in that moment. She was the source of so much frustration up until that point and then you suddenly feel scared for her.

Because he ruined all of their lives? Walt Jr’s uncle was murdered and they were forced out of their home. All because Walt had too much pride to accept Gretchin’s money.

I guess I just considered all that one in the same. The drugs, the violence, etc. To Walt Jr. it's all routed in the one decision Walt made to start cooking meth.

Shouldn't the missing piece have been two pieces? The tip and the rest?

>Literally has his rich friends offer to pay everything for him
>Deals meth instead and ruins his life
Why was he so stupid?

STOP NITPICKING AHHHHHHHH

Only correct answer in this thread.

pride

Biggest meme going
>Is a cucked high school teacher
>Literally a bitch
>Has pride
Shit makes no sense, Breaking Bad is a shit tier show

Woman detected.

The point is that every action Walt took in his downward spiral into evil could be justified rationally within a certain framework. That is exactly how Walt justified the things he did to himself which is how he let himself sink so low. Only in the last few episodes does the facade drop and we see the true horror of the situation. That's why it's so uncomfortable to watch, we as the viewers sympathise with Walt on some level because we've bought into the same arbitrary moral rationale he has. It's like waking up from a crazed daze and seeing you were part of tragedy because you were with him every step of the way, subtly allowing his actions based on your own cognitive dissonance because you like watching the show and would stop if the true absurdity and evil was obvious to you from the start.

Imagine if they'd dropped all the boring family shit and just focused on the meth/crime side of things from the start

Would have salvaged the buring piles of shit that are Seasons 1/2

When he killed the spic Jesse was dateing, there's no excuse for he, that's the moment he truly started exploiting him.

I bet you like capeshit.

>incels can't understand the concept of pride
Keep on jerking off to femdom porn in your basement, you freak.

seething zoomlets

>whoa mista white, are you really just gonna go breaking bad like that?
how did they get away with this?

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I'm surprised the Brock poisoning was supposed to be the tipper, I was already convinced with pic related

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feelings ARE important
decisions are often made of kneaded emotions

pretty disheartening to think this post was written unironically
waltfags are just irredeemable

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S1: Shit
S2: Kino
S3: Shit
S4: Average
S5: Good

You have S2 and S4 mixed up, otherwise yes.

Not a single moment in the show did he do something for purely evil reasons, so he was never unsympathetic. He had flaws and weaknesses, but was never an asshole for no reason (like Jesse/Mike).

>Even if it was for shit to help you out
-they were right to doubt his intentions
-they thought he fucking murdered hank who's also family

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As soon as he started selling drugs, his brother in law is dea he knows the damage and destruction meth does and he did it anyway. Why should I have sympathy for him? The absolute breaking point is when he turns down the money for treatment from the pharmaceutical industry friends. There's nothing sympathetic about Walt except how much of a cunt his wife is.

S1: Kino
S2: Kino
S3: Kino
S4: Extra Kino
S5: Kino

Dumbass

>punish and humiliate son for openly disrespecting you and favoring your brother-in-law even though you were a good parent in the years leading up to the show
>somehow bad
White person detected. I bet you were fuming when your divorced mom put you on "time outs".

So the film is going to be shit isnt it

Just a sad druggy Jesse crying for 2 hours

At what point did he break bad?

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delicious
>newfound
he had the stink of it ever since since the mystery of why he had a falling out with the other two founders of grey matter technology

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This. They're all bad, just ended up on different teams. Walt was the only person smart enough to realize this and strong enough to cope with it. Everyone else needed to pretend they were somehow more moral than the other (like faggot Jesse).

not an argument

i'm glad i don't share your mentality
that kind of shameless denial is just spooky

Basically this.

It was hard to hate on Walt especially when he tried to do the right thing despite it being against his best interests. (i.e. trying to save Hank)

He Sauled Goodman when he btfo Irene at the nursing home.

All these edgy tards aside, this is the correct answer

You're wasting your time arguing with him dude. White people don't love their families and only care about personal gain. To whites, you're a loser if you're still living with your parents when you're 18. The whites I know never call and check up on their parents, uncles, cousins, etc. Of course they wouldn't support walt's actions either.

from the very first scene. he was always a resentful evil little shit, he just didn't have the balls to act on it until he was diagnosed with cancer. he's full of beta rage and ungrateful from the very beginning.

came here to post this

I can’t see it being any good. Jesse’s fate being open at the end of BB was perfect. We really don’t need to see what he does next.

Yeah like that prototypical negroid family from the Disneyland video. Now THAT is how a loving pavement ape family functions.

This

Sounds like a harsh and lonely way to live, any fuck up could get you booted out the family.

Jane was literally going to get Jesse killed. Walt letting her die was both selfish and empathetic. The whole reason for Walt going back to the house was to try and reason with Jesse.

>black family
>only comprised of mom, grandma, aunts and their 80IQ mutant offspring

He was a man that had to give up his pride for daily bread. At the end of his life he chose what to cherish.

He was sympathetic right up to the end of season 4. I was still hoping for him to launder the rest of his money and then quietly exit the meth business for good, even though it wasn't gonna happen. Then in season 5 he lost me and I didn't care anymore.

he always was, theres a scene in the first season where its a flash back to his university days. He was talking about what makes a human being, he says its all chemistry and no soul. They are telling you that his character has no soul, he was always unsympathetic

I'm white and this is true and I wouldn't have it any other way

I never really sympathized with him, he was always a bitter, repressed psycho just waiting to be let out

based and redpilled

I think I would prefer a familial culture of personal responsibility over the whole "he dindunuffin he wuz a gud boi etc" shit.

He was never sympathetic. Breaking Bad is all about how you should never trust teachers.

In the fourth episode when he didn't take Elliot's offer to pay his treatment no questions asked

he saved jesse from committing suicide by crazy pussy
only betas think letting her OD was cruel

Episode 1. When he didn't take the money.

It was cruel but it also saved Jesse’s life.

What did he mean by this?

Unironically true. Whites are the most individualistic race there is. They would gladly sell their entire family off if it benefited them. Say what you will about any other race but at least they respect family. It's no wonder whites are being bred out of existence.

>When did he become unsympathetic?

The destruction of the Aztek which symbolically represented the loss of his soul. More concretely when he started killing Mike's men.

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the pizza on the roof needed exactly one shot