Which actors and actresses do you consider to be stars?
What is your definition?
Mine would be this: a star is an actor or actress who is singularily beautiful - though not necessarily in a standard way - and whose talent is obvious and recognised; it is also a person who keeps their private life private, as a real star is far away from the observers.
Audrey Hepburn is a star to me.
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Elizabeth Debicki. Possibly the only star material of nowadays. Also Cate Blanchett, possibly Natalie Portman.
>OP tries a serious thread about cinema
>Yea Forums doesn't care
Please redirect me to a board that wants to discuss cinema. I don't care if it's Reddit, at this point, I'll take it.
I always thought that when someone was called a movie star, it meant that they were popular and marketable actor, but one that wasn't necessarily good at acting - or one who could only play one or two roles and was normally typecast.
Examples of these kinds of actors would include people like Schwarzenegger, Hugh Grant, John Travolta and Jim Carrey.
Bogie was to me a star of all ages.
I think the term originally meant just the main actor in the movie.
Nowadays, in my impression, because of social networks and how you can directly read from celebrities, famous actors aren't automatically stars, just celebrities. Proximity dwindles the effect and, often, makes you lose respect.
I disagree that Arnold is not a good actor, though. He is very good in everything I saw him do. He took acting lessons for years and it shows. Same comment on Grant and Travolta. Carrey is one of the best comedic actors of all time, so I am forced to counter you with the force of a thousand incel dicks here.
My definition
A Star is guy who you can recognize his face and remember and spell his name. Because of this a Star helps you to remember and find a movie, when you forget the title, the characters, the synopsis and even why you watched the movie in the first place.
>hear the premise of a movie
>not interested
>see the stars in it
>become ok with watching it
That's what Star is to me
>A Star is guy who you can recognize his face and remember and spell his name.
My entire family is now stars. I'm a star too. Thank you, user!
I think Schwarzenegger and Grant were typecast a lot though
This is it for me. I don't know if that's why they are actually called stars but to me a star is someone who the movie orbits around.
Hard to keep your life away from observers in this day and age. Remember Hitler rubbing his pants like a motorhead at the olympics?
A lot of people have star power: Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, George Clooney,Sean Connery, the list is endless
As far as keeping your private life away from the general audience: Josh Hartnett's done a pretty good job. Evan Mendez and Gosling too ( allthough I wouldn't really rate them as star power)
Had Audrey Hepburn been born today, maybe her private life wouldn't have been as private.
Obama and Bush their private life wasn't smeared all over the tabloids. I'm rambling on,
for me, It would have to be Clint Eastwood. As far as women go: Beyonce seemed to be doing pretty well, before she showed her ass in everything she appeared in.
A star has to keep some distance and mystery. So the audience can fill their lives in in their place.
Michael Jackson would be a nice example of Star Power. People are still speculating and nobody knows anything. He was the biggest on the planet and will remain an enigma forever. That, to me, is Star Power.
I'd argue Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise hide their private lives pretty well, apart from the huge news like marriages and divorces. George Clooney is always in the fucking news for some reason, though. No idea why.
Georgia Clooney is a CIA nigger.
not into bigfoot, thanks
The stars are familiar faces we trust.
I don't watch movies starring people I don't know
Definitely. What's Arnold's most demanding role? In terms of acting, strictly.
>Hard to keep your life away from observers in this day and age.
Those who want to do it, do it. Just don't use social networks and you're fine.
>maybe her private life wouldn't have been as private.
Elizabeth keeps her just as private, so it is possible.
Last of his kind
>will remain an enigma forever.
An enigma to you, but to anyone who studied psychology, he is no enigma at all, sadly. Ask any therapist and you'll be disappointed by the explanation.
I've noticed something which is an easy way to know if someone is a star, for lack of a better word. If regular people describe a contemporary movie as "That X movie with Y" where X is a genre and Y is an actor, the actor is for all intensive purposes, a star. A star is a person whose name recognition is the first thing that comes to mind when selling a movie. So the plebs at my work ask if I've seen "that tank movie with Brad Pitt" or "that alien movie with Natalie Portman". Of course in today's film industry where franchises eclipse all star power, you go to see a Marvel movie and not "that superhero movie with Robert Downey Jr.". But you do ask someone if they've seen that "that road movie with Robert Downey Jr and Zack Galiwhatsisname".
>that alien movie with Natalie Portman
I don’t think anyone has ever said that about Star Wars unironically.
You know what I'm talking about dude
And your proposal can be tested with google...
You know, sometimes your forget the name of the movie and it's really hard to find the movie with a few keywords in the plot even with google
But with actor's names it's easier
TOM CRUISE. Pitt's popularity waned longer than Cruise's but Tom reinvented himself despite his age
Cruise is only doing sequels now
>Of course in today's film industry where franchises eclipse all star power, you go to see a Marvel movie and not "that superhero movie with Robert Downey Jr."
I think that's only because any Marvel film nowadays has a bunch of stars in it. Downey is clearly a star.
Downey is a star BECAUSE of Marvel, not the other way around
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He is only doing sequels since the Kubrick Incident. Can you really blame the guy for wanting to be more of a producer? Since Spielberg, Cameron, and BTTF guy stopped making quality four quadrant blockbusters, Star Power has bern on the wane.
Are Stars the dying breed?
Who is now capable of being such magnet as Cruise or Pitt?
And fuck off with your waifu dude
"star" always meant an actor who would guarantee a certain amount of ticket sales
the last movie star was will smith, someone who could appear in literally anything and it would make a profit, but then he had kids and became obsessed with trying to make them stars as well and it all fell apart, now he's like an anti-star, I find it amusing
btw people saying cruise, pitt, dicaprio are stars: nope
they don't guarantee returns, and never have in the same league as smith during the late 90s/early to mid 00s
these days individuals have been replaced by brands like marvel, which just having their name on a movie guarantees a certain level of box office
Fuck no. Downey was a star the day he showed up on the fucking screen. If you don't believe and want to experience what it's like to see a diamond deep within a huge turd, watch Less Than Zero. He is fucking phenomenal in this. The movie is good for him, the soundtrack, and the 80's time capsule effect. Everything else sucks and is a disaster, but his performance is fucking impressive.
He was big in the 80's and early 90's, then disappeared. I noticed him in Ally McBeal and he was a star for me already, but then he re-exploded with Iron Man. But make no mistake: the MCU would be nothing without him.
You will never learn to branch out or watch something truly new if you stick to only what you know, though. Many great films have an actor or actress playing a role and they are never seen again. Passion of Joan comes to mind.
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user, Terrence "1 times 1 equals 2" Howard was the highest paid actor in Iron Man.
>Who is now capable of being such magnet as Cruise or Pitt?
All the Marvel Chris's, I'd think. Also Michael Fassbender.
Imagine taking celebrity worship this seriously.
>btw people saying cruise, pitt, dicaprio are stars: nope
>they don't guarantee returns
DiCaprio got plebs to shell out half a billion dollars to watch a slow burning period piece about a man grunting in the snow for 2 hours
Hello mental illness. You cringe because you don't dare express yourself on a fucking anonymous board, you utter child.
Zoomers getting more embarrassing every day.
If a joke, I don't get it. If a meme, I don't know it. If true, I don't even know who Terrence fucking is.
Either way, Downey was not so enormous before Iron Man, but he had been a long time prior. He is based.
What makes you think this is about taking it seriously? You can recognise a star without worshipping them. I think Denzel Washington is a true star, but I don't have posters of him at home, and I don't obsess over his films.
>DiCaprio got plebs to shell out half a billion dollars to watch a slow burning period piece about a man grunting in the snow for 2 hours
>when you are a pleb
>claims RDJ was popular before Iron Man and not someone who was literally uninsurable and opposed by the suits because no one cared about him in 2008
>doens't know that Terrence Howard was more popular than RDJ in 2008
This is another way to know who a star is, if even the Jews think you're worth paying millions of dollars to star in their movies
Yes, I claim it. Faggot, I was already alive back then and I just fucking remember. Wake the fuck up, incel, you aren't the oldest user around here.
Nobody knows Terrence Howard, however.
>utter
hows that liberal arts degeree working out for yua lil buddy?
Your post needs more buzzwords.
But can you answer why Terrence Howard was the highest paid actor in Iron Man?
Before he went to politics, End of Days, in which he gives a pretty decent role, after politics Aftermath. It just wasn't particularly strong movie.
Will Smith's last good movie was Independance day. The first MiB was original, but that doesn't mean it was a good movie. But there was some residue left. Then he turned down the Matrix in favor of WWW (which really isn't that bad of a movie). But then he started taking on more serious roles, trying to break away from the roles the audience loved seeing him in. Seven Pounds (wtf was that shit?). He had mild succes with I Robot and that dating movie with Mendez and that fat fuck. He received some acclaim from the critics with his role in Ali, which wasn't that good to be honest. Then he did that Hancock thing and that other thing with his son on a foreign planet with Shimalayan no talent hack. He's been struggling ever since.
Will Smith hasn't been a star since Independance day.
Cruise did Minority Report and he had that whole Scientology Debacle. He never full recovered, but he's still a certified profit. He's one leg in with the old and one leg in with the new.
New moviestars are people like Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson. Sadly. And even he's old. What's going to happen once these people are no longer there. It was like one user posted: " the age of moviestars is over." Having a career that spans over four decades in the movie industry will no longer be possible. They're becoming interchangeable drones, just like we are. Which sucks, because you want that superstar fantasy.
>using the word "utter" is sophisticated
I wasn't wrong when I called you a child. I have a literature degree and an chemistry degree. My career is going great. So well, in fact, that I don't give a rat's ass what incels say about me online, unlike you, who can't express anything for fear of being mocked by unknown, random strangers on a website where nobody gives a fuck and there are no consequences.
The magnitude of your pussiness is impressive.
>But can you answer why Terrence Howard was the highest paid actor in Iron Man?
cinemablend.com
I could, if I finished reading this boring article. My boy Downey is the fucking best.
Amy
Never heard of this woman.
This entire thread is an excuse to post Debicki, get with it, boys. Fuck jannies!
'Utter' is in vogue here because it's a word used in a Bateman quote you halfwits. It's like an echo. Don't make me call you summerfags.
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>'Utter' is in vogue here because it's a word used in a Bateman quote you halfwits.
That explains that... You autists are so fucking retarded. Spend less time on memes and more time outside, seriously. If you truly think this word has never been used normally, you need to neck yourself very soon.
You can't call me a summerfag, because you are the summerfag. I've been here since 2008, pussy. Your sort is why this entire website dropped in quality. Autism isn't funny.
Elizabeth Debicki is the brightest star currently in activity.
I agree with this sentiment.
I second and third that! Try not to die seeing this image. Try.
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I'll make posts of over 200 words which go unanswered and sink into the abyss immediately. Some posts I'll put some genuine thought in, others are just hearfelt. It's a good lesson in humility. If you can't captivate your audience, you'll get nothing. There are days where I'll just lurk and post in dubs threads or post 'based'. Which is baffling to me. But I'm not ashamed of who I am ( maybe sometimes a tad). I expect no recourse for my life choices. You've been here since 2008? That's nice. Most of you I would like to meet in real life. I hold no judgement. But you need to have the ability to get shat on. And mock your own existence. I sit on here daily, but I still retain a positive outlook on life. I threat each and everyone in my life as my equal. Which might be a mistake, but it's how I feel. I don't get treated the same way, but that's not my problem. The mind wanders. I have my soul to worry about. And even if there is no such thing and it was all for nought: I feel good when I can do something good. I believe in Duality and right vs wrong. Which is already a big step.
infinity unironically is much better.
'Utter' is the most concise way to 'in its entirety'. It's fairly common.
Summerfag thinks he can get away with "Reddit" all the time. Don't you get bored? Be creative, entertain us, don't just post thinking anybody cares about you. Nobody does.
Is that bailey j?
>But you need to have the ability to get shat on. And mock your own existence.
That's what doormats do, I'll pass. Take the hard way, user, have dignity and do great things. Don't be a shit-eater who aims for nothing.
Kate Blanchette
Classic = Bogart, Cagney, A Hepburn, K Hepburn, Fonda, Peck, Grant, Davis, Olivier, Douglas, de Havilland, Dietrich, Gable, Wayne, Flynn
Pre 90’s = Eastwood, Newman, Beatty, Redford, Nicholson, De Niro, Pacino, Brando, Christie, Dunaway, Bancroft.
Post 90’s - Streep, Di Caprio, Hanks, Washington, Pitt, Jackman, Clooney, Adams, Blanchett.
A star is simply a personality who shines through regardless of acting talent. Someone with undeniable screen presence, who commands your attention through their beauty and charisma. Someone who seems larger than life. Marilyn Monroe is possibly the best example, after all her name is basically synonymous with the word "star". She may not have been a great actress, but no one can deny she was a great star.
A great actor is someone who can change their face, voice, appearance and mannerisms to become a character. Their self disappears inside their performance. They are always playing someone else. Philip Seymour Hoffman, Dustin Hoffman, Gary Oldman, Christian Bale, De Niro, Viggo Mortensen.
A great movie star is exactly the opposite, they are essentially always playing themselves, or slight variations on themselves, but do it so well and have so much charisma that you don't mind. Bogie, John Wayne, Harrison Ford, Kevin Costner, Tom Cruise, George Clooney, Arnie. They are stars.
Very, very rarely they crossover and you get someone who can do both.
I have a sense of pride. I want to aim for great things. But I also am self aware: I'm aware of my capabilities and limitations. Having a 'Ready to fight the odds' mentality is great. I have it, and I applaud it in people. But it only gets you so far. We are left at odds and have very little control of what we do, think, and say. And that's just the healthy ones.
I'm 35 now and I try to intervene as much as a can, but it's my personal belief we're just as prone to the elements as anything else. There's no control. But I still have my faith.
monroe was never a star desu,
she was just a thot before that was coined. attention seeking trash that got a little too chummy with the wrong people.
>i'm an idiot zoomer that has no idea what i'm talking about
She was a major movie star with lots of huge hits and attracted attention everywhere without even trying or wanting to. The millions of bimbos that copied her and continue to copy her today, they are the attention seeking thots. None of them have the star quality that made Marilyn what she was.
I'd say Hanks, Nicholson, pacino, DeNiro, and Denzel are examples of those who fit both, depending on the role
what was her star quality user I've seen some of her work and I'm honestly not that impressed. can you give some good examples? I mean I understand todays acting is horrible.
Her
she was just fluff
khazar milkers
Some Like it Hot, The Seven Year Itch, Niagara, hell even her early small roles like The Asphalt Jungle or Monkey Business.
There's a reason she's constantly listed among the top movie stars ever in every list or ranking that's been put out, usually in the top 5. She wasn't some fucking Kim Kardashian whore that was famous for no reason, she was a legit entertainer and is the most enduring Hollywood legend of all time.
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why are pepperoni areola so beautiful
seethe less and Cope
she was just window dressing
Just Delightful and a brilliant actress
she has a brilliant rack for sure
Her acting in Penny Dreadful was superb
This isn't Elizabeth.
This is.
Indeed