Why does Roy Batty save Deckard Cain from falling even though they were just trying to kill each other a moment ago?

It was the only way he could live on, through Deckard's memory.

But the entire point of his character was the struggle to exist just a little more, a little more. If Deckard dies, it's over, every bit of him is gone. If Deckard lives then at least the memory remains, some proof of his existence. It's temporary, ephemeral, but that's the struggle.

Youre all missing the most crucial part. Not only his memory, but the kind of wild experiences he had.

>Ive seen things you people wouldnt believe

Hes trying to preserve something greater than himself.

Thats the general consens on his motivation for 30 years now. Brainlets, all of you.

But he can't preserve it because Deckard didn't see it. Only he saw it, and the memory died with him. It was lost in time, like tears in rain.

Stop being retarded. Roy wants a memory of himself to exist.

His monologue is only good part of this movie. Actor wrote it few minutes before shooting last scene. Based Roy Batty.

It's not so much about having Deckard remember him and thus allowing him to live on in some form. It's more that he decided that Deckard was going to be his legacy. His speech is meant to inspire Deckard to understand the scarcity of life and to appreciate and live his life to it's fullest, which he does by running away with the replicant girl. It ties in with Gaff's line "It's too bad she won't live, but then again who does?". Roy's legacy is the impact he had on Deckard's life.

And yet it doesn't, because his name was not mentioned a single time in the sequel. So it looks like the retard here is YOU.

his name isn't deckard cain

All he did was shorten the dialogue he was given and then throw in the tears in rain part, which makes sense because that does sound obviously ad-libbed. It's the kind of phrase someone would come up with on the spot if they're not really good with words.

He's not a robot, he's a synthetic human.

And it was enough to save this boring crap.

The whole movie was a masterpiece.

I still don't know why I keep seeing people who think replicants are robots. It's so strange, like people are only capable of seeing things as human or robot.

Because in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before

because deckard was a replicant and he wanted to save all of replciant kind read the lore watch the extended director supercut retard

Because he is a fan of Diablo II

Kudos for camera and sets. Harison is beyond horrible. Pacing is slow. Only interesting characters is Batty. It influence generations of artist. But it is not great movie.

because he wanted to stay awhile and listen

Yeah I agree, the sequel was shit.

hmmm sounds like a pleb opinion

"Quite an experience to live in fear, isn’t it? That’s what it is to be a slave"
He makes Deckard experience his life in microcosm, what it was like to be continously persued and the desperate need to cling to life that resulted. In doing so he passes on that little part of him to live on beyond his death.

Blade Runner is actually a genuine example of subversion, not the way people throw it around these days like they just found out the word exists. You think you're going to be watching a generic action scene and then it's filled with these nuggets of brilliance.

truth

Watched this with my grandad recently. Enjoyed it alot and i'll be watching the second one with him later this month.

He probably would have dropped him had he known what a piece of shit 2049 would be.

"Deckard Cain! Leave quickly!"

The point is he was crying because he was dying but you couldn't see his tears in the rain, dumbass

In his last moments of life he realized he was gay for Deckard.

People think it's because he became human but to me it's more about having a witness to tell people that Roy lived.

Hopefully you're Grandaddy dies before then to spare him from the pain of having to sit through such a shitty movie.

NO MORE TEARS THROUGH THE RAIN

NO ONE HAAAAAAAARMED

The sequel doesn't exist

Deckard may not have had an expiration date.

Ignore the plebs, BR2049 is kino. This board just started hating Ryan Gosling because muh flag even though Neil Armstrong didn't plant the flag, Buzz Aldrin did.

I feel like I should say something.

>Deckard Cain
>Cain

What?

shtay a while and lishen

Hi there, I'm Charsi, the blacksmith here in camp.

But the real tragedy is that despite this we still want to be remembered.

He made Deckard feel the way he and the other replicants feel with their shortened lifespan. With Deckard achieving this understanding, Roy sees fit to share with Deckard how he feels about the impermanence of life.

Stay a while and listen.

Found the brainlet

Dude even it had another lead, it would still be boring crap

>boring
Oh sorry, not enough explosions for you? PLEB.

I believe it's called Silicon Heaven

>It influence generations of artist
>But it is not great movie.

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Madonna influenced generations of musicians but nobody calls her a great musician.

based retard apuposter

stay a while and listen

>Madonna influenced generations of musicians but nobody calls her a great musician.
She is not a musician. She is an entertainer, and a great one. She did not influence musicians; she influenced entertainers.

he saw some shit in space

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2nd law of robitics

This. Deckard will remember him.

>tries to spit on him right before falling
What a bitch move.

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I didn't come to this thread to feel.

Why the hell would a human?

I don't know why Roy saved Deckard's life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life. Anybody's life. Deckard's life.

Cann afella drin kin peas?

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lol

>there are people who consider this snorefest and its fedora tier """philosophy""" to be the pinnacle sci-fi

Just look at this pathetic thread

Thanks user if you noticed my quads.

beams and gates though

Same reason he was carrying the pigeon around.

Because he was dying, and everyone he knew in his life was already dead.
If he hadn't saved him, no one would know his story or remember what he tried to do with his life.
It worked as well, considering deckard runs away with a replicant and births a child with her.

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>if I can't have more life I guess maybe you can instead

i watched sea beans

>all dat shit nigga, all dat shit
>ain't no one gonna remember none of it after I'm gone
>sheeit

checked

No. It is not great movie. It have great visuals for its time. But it is boring. I blame Ford for his bland performance. Damn. He could not even kiss hot Rachel. But world they created is amazing. Ghost in the Shell, Cyberpunk 2077, Deus Ex and many other IPs were born from this vision.

DEEP

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I quite agree with what was said above about passing on his experience and having Deckard remain as a witness to his existence, as well as probably recognizing Deckard as a fellow replicant, but I also always understood it as a deliberate demonstration of his capacity to be "more human than the humans". First he proves his superiority over Deckard in combat and arrives at a situation where he holds Deckard's life in his hands, but instead of avenging his fallen comrades by killing Deckard, he chooses to grant mercy -- something no-one would have given him. That's a statement in and of itself.

Why was Roy's last name Batty? Was it because he was totally batty in the head? Why do robots even have surnames?

Ford did some unique things in this movie I have never seen him do in any other movie. Most of the time he relies on his good looks and his natural cool aura but he even changed his voice up in this movie.

>Ford did some unique things in this movie
Like eating chinesse food on camera? What special he did? I never seen actor more bored on screen. He looks like i feel in work.

yeah, for what it's worth, that's my preferred interpretation as well

THEY'RE NOT FUCKING ROBOTS YOU IDIOT

Because ""I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. [laughs] Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like [coughs] tears in rain. Time to die"

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>[coughs]
What did he mean by this?

>I saw some ships lmao
What was his point?

fleshy robots are still robots

>boohoo baby sad and cry cry rainy much wet :'( *brrapp* oops ;) kill myself now *dies*

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>He looks like i feel in work.
That's on purpose, Deckard doesn't enjoy his job.

Truly in that moment he was Blade Runner™

You realise your entire post is praising his acting, right?

His point is he seen some shit nobody care about. That whole journey was for nothing. All of this will fade out and will be forgoten. Like Tears in Rain.

He just wanted someone to stay a while and listen?

>He doesn't enjoy having licence to kill replicants?
WTF? What is more badass than do nothing whole day and get paid. And maybe kill some replicants. Or not. They die out anyway so who cares. If he waited whole time home, all Batty crew would die anyway. I don't buy it.

>DIS CHARACTER DOESN'T FEEL EXACTLY THE WAY I WOULD FEEL IN HIS POSITION? DAT MAKES HIM BAD CHARACTER
genuine brainlet

>thread has good discussion
>Americans wake up
>suddenly a bunch of DUDE SEA BREAMS I AM SO FUNNY posts

Fuck Americans.

WAAAAAAAAAAH BORING BORING BORING WHERE ARE THE EXPLOSIONS

Look K show more emotions in 2049 than Deckard in original. Well. Even 2049 Deckard show more emotions than in 2049. Only acting he does is when someone smack his face so he does his rubber Harrison trick. It is not exactly hard to look bored. It is actualy easy because i seen it everywhere on everyone every day. Not my fault that BR is boring. Everyone in that movie is better than Harrison. Every single extras show more acting than him.

What the fuck is this expresion?

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>Deckard Cain

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you mean BR2049? Then yes

Do the world a favor and kys, it seems movies are too much for your brain

No. We are talking about original. 2049 is Citizen Kane compared to original.

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You don't need brain to enjoy 2 hours of boredom with stellar visuals. But as movie it fall apart.

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>THESE DIFFERENT CHARACTERS ARE DIFFERENT
You're the most brainlet person I've seen all week.

>esl is a brainlet
imagine my surprise

KEK sorry, i i didnt realize i was talking to a mentally disabled person

You need arguments. Calling someone brainlet, incel or polack is not argument. I respect your opinion that you like that movie. But i think it fails in places where it should not.

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I kinda thought that he saved him because throughout the whole movie he was looking for a way to prolong his life and in that moment he saw that Deckard had exactly the same desire and he could make it happen.

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No, I don't need an argument. You're claiming that because K isn't as bored as Deckard, then that's proof that Harrison is acting poorly, when they're in fact playing two entirely different characters. You are simply retarded.

Point is Deckard looks bored whole movie. Point is Ford acting is weakest part of movie. Point is he can't even read voiceover well enough. Point is Ford is boring shit in BD. But if you enjoy his boring face. Good for you. I would like to see anyone else as Deckard.

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Point is, looking bored =/= bad acting. You fucking braindead cunt.

>voiceover
No wonder you don't like the movie. Imagine being such a fucking brainlet that you don't even watch the right film before complaining.

At last, after all these years, I have finally become Blade Runner

There was no point to victory as Roy was about to die. Instead he wanted Deckard to experience Roy's life of always being hunted down on the edge of death. His final act forced Deckard to have empathy for a replicant, which challenges the assumption that replicants are sub-human.

>Look K show more emotions in 2049 than Deckard in original. Well. Even 2049 Deckard show more emotions than in 2049.
Yes well done that's the whole point of the character and the movie. He's introduced as the good guy cop who hunts down these evil rogue replicants but as the movie goes on the replicants come off as relatable and human and Deckard seems like a cold blooded robot just murdering the shit out of them. So it's a subversion of the hero kills evil robots trope and you're left wondering who's the real evil killer robot here and what really makes a man.("You've done a mans job sir")
>but it's just bordom with prettu lites herpaderpaderr
sure thing kid

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Didn't he already like Rachael despite her being a replicant?

If you look like you don't want to be in movie in front and behind camera. Yes. That is bad acting.

I seen 2-3 version. I like dubbed voice over version moust. Because there are some emotions there at least. Not like in original monotone Ford voice.

Irony i get so much heat even if i am fan of Blade Runner. But i can see where are problems. Not pretend it is flawless masterpiece.

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>I like dubbed voice over version moust
This was all you needed to say to confirm you know nothing. Good job.

>if you look like you are bored then you are a bad actor
>even if you're playing a bored character
I mean this sincerely: You should kill yourself.

cuz he had a full inventory of unid items but lost all his gold in durance 2 cuz extra fast thorns dolls.

The replicants in Blade Runner know they're replicants. Except Rachael. She's a new type of replicant and shes been given somebody else's memories to cushion her emotional responses so she can be more easily controlled. So if Deckard is also a replicant, he doesn't know about it either. So hes the same as Rachael. So it follows that he must have somebody else's memories too. And there's really only one person who's memories he could have.

GAFF IS DECKARD. If you think about it, it makes complete sense. Who is Gaff anyway? I propose that he was the best Blade Runner in the business before he got injured and acquired his limp, possibly even going after the replicants in the film. He's right up there in the cop ranks and appears to be close to Police Chief Bryant, the same relationship Deckard re-assumes when he's hauled in at the start of the film. Deckard isn't even allowed to fly his own police car. Pretty much every time he needs to go somewhere, Gaff has to drive him. He's a real dick about it too, he doesn't talk to him or even acknowledge his presence. He just drives him around with that resentful scowl on his face. How come Deckard isn't flying himself?

Right through the film, Gaff shows complete contempt for Deckard. Right at the start when he approaches him eating those delicious looking noodles, his way of saying "hello" is by hitting him on the arm with his cane. All the way through he's basically a massive prick to him. The relationship makes sense - this whole endeavour of using a robot to hunt robots is experimental. If Deckard has Gaff's memories and skills than who better to keep a close eye on him to assess how things are going? And how much would Gaff hate doing this? The more Deckard succeeds, the more reason Gaff has to hate him. He's everything Gaff once was and serves as a painfull reminder.

Then we have the one big clue. The unicorn.

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ridley scott says he saved him because deckard spits at him rather than asking fir mercy. why theorize when the creator says why?

No shit Sherlock.

its in the commentary. roy gains respect for him in this moment.

Are you trying to tell me that Ford doesn't look bored in all his movies in last 15 years?

Yes. He didn't look bored in BR2049.

Agree. He looked angry. But that was last time he bother to act for next 15 years. He was fine in S 0 Y Wars but Ford is infamous for his boring acting. But we he did it Blade Runner it is incredible acting. Stop smelling your farts.

>Then we have the one big clue. The unicorn.
The unicorn dreams are from another movie, the unicorn he left at Deckard's place was to let him know that he could have arrest/kill them but decided not to.

>visuals
christ

Please go away.

*Tips fedora*

No.

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Only correct response itt

Deep

It's too bad you won't live. But then again, who does?

This

Post tits.

>word, i done seen things yall niggaz wouldn't believe

>Quad quads
Yep, that's a 1 in 10,000 post my friend

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RENT FREE

>hurr durr brainlet

Roy had been dehumanized by his creators, so he started to become desperate and lose contact with his humanity. At the end, Batty realizes that he IS human, but not only that, he was a moral and humane individual, incapable of killing a begging wreck like Deckard, so he saves him and in a way, saves himself.

Based

But why a unicorn though?

*votes pro immigration*

Because Ridley think Deckard is replicant. Too bad nobody else does. Just ignore it.

Thanks. Reply of gentleman.

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>nobody else does
He quite literally is a Replicant. It isn't up for debate. Seriously, how are you so mentally retarded? What country are you in where the education system is THIS shit?

The dude almost forgot he had a kid so...

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He understands the worth of life as he is about to lose his. It was a selfless act of greater awareness. It's kino.

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>He quite literally is a Replicant.
Where is evidence?

>didn't watch BR2049
>or original BR
imagine being such a brainlet

Reminder to play the Blade Runner videogame, it's still the best fucking adventure game ever made.

I have both movies. There is nothing in 2049 to support theory that Deckard is replicant. And you have origami unicorn in original. Too bad that could be just warning from other Blade Runner because he make these origamis everywhere he goes.

>There is nothing in 2049 to support theory that Deckard is replicant.
Fucking hell. How mentally deficient are you?

Czeched

>In regard to the unicorn, Scott states, “How could someone have known what’s inside his head other than someone who has looked at his file and knew what had been implanted in his brain. I can’t be any clearer that that! If you don’t get that, you have to be a moron!”

Give me example where of proof that Deckard is replicant? He didn't fought like replicant in original and he didn't realy show replicant strenght in 2049. He also age.

Or you can call me brainlet if you have nothing.

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see
you blind Batty.

So everytime there is Origami in Blade Runner, some character in scene is hidden replicant?

I never understood the end of this movie, do jews believe in heaven?

Did you even watch the movie? The whole point was that Deckard and Rachel, two replicants, had a kid, which is supposed to be impossible. That's the movie. I don't have to point out a single scene, because it's every scene. I know it wasn't a very good movie, but you should still have been able to understand the basic plot.

You're a brainlet.

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Fuck off leftypol

>Did you even watch the movie? The whole point was that Deckard and Rachel, two replicants,

I know you're probably trolling, but there are actually people this stupid with real power in the world, and that's not funny.

What? A bunch of jews go to heaven in the end of "this is the end"
I didnt know if jews believed in the christian heaven and devil.
Wtf are you on about leftypol, you paranoid fuck

The point was that Rachel, a replicant, could have children. Whether Deckard was one or not is irrelevant.

roy batty sure was batty

>is irrelevant
That explains the several minute long scene dedicated to Tyrell insinuating that Deckard might be a replicant then.

Mong.

>might

I see Deckard as human. Just like man who wrote screenplay. Just like man who wrote story. Just like actor who play Deckard.

I know about eye reflection etc. But if Deckard is replicant. He have to be special one just like Rachel. Would you give special replicant dangerour job like hunting replicants? My point is realy not to proof or disproof who he is. More like talk about it. But incels here are triggered by everything because they are snowflakes.

>Whether Deckard was one or not is irrelevant
This statement is objectively wrong. You are an idiot, truly.

Actualy you are idiot. Just because you act like idiot.

You're the "imnotaweeb" guy right? I kind of agreed with you on that thread but, if you're proposing that HF looking bored is bad acting, then it confirms that you're pretty much a retard

>get absolutely BTFO by several people for like an hour straight
>resort to "i-incels!"
go back to your fucking spic forums or whatever, you esl retard.

>you're wrong
nice argument

Villenuevuevuvueu is on record as saying he left hints to both in the film. You can believe whatever you want. The point is that Deckard's status is ambiguous, just like in the original film.

>n-no u
You can laeve now, ESL faggot.

>VILLEVENENENENEVE SAID HE MIGHT BE BOTH
>Ridley said he objectively was a replicant
>IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE DIRECTORS THINK
absolute brainlet BTFOing himself now lmao

>IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE DIRECTORS THINK
My entire argument is predicated on the idea that the opinion of Villeneuve, the director, matters more than anyone else.

>You can laeve now,
You can learn how to write.

HAVE

SEX

It's not irrelevant. Deckard and Rachel both being replicants means that replicants are now a parrellel species. Deckard being human makes the child a half breed. The whole movie is dedicated to replicants breaking away and having their own society. They talk about it constantly. If the child comes form a human and replicant, this doesn't make any sense.

Deckard drives himself to sebastians apartment to kill pris.

What kind of retarded logic is this? The point is that replicants can conceive. It doesn't matter if it's with another replicant or with a 'human'.

>>get absolutely BTFO
where? because namecalling? try harder. i will not fall apart just because someone disagree. i am not fragile like you.

Yes, that was an important subplot of the movie. Humans could not match up against replicants. Sending a human after replicants was almost certain to end in death. Deckard had been a trial, just like Rachel. But it's true, the way it was filmed was intentionally open ended. As much as I think Scott's opinion is clear, he makes sure to never state it plainly, and I think this is what makes it an effective movie. While I feel confident in my opinion, the fact that there is still the potential for doubt moves the conversation from simply being "what was the plot" to "what does it really mean to be human," which makes it good sci-fi.

Yet you simultaneously hold the view that the opinion of Ridley Scott, the original direction, does not matter at all.

You are mentally retarded.

>resorting to calling out typos and screeching "incel" and "have sex" after being utterly embarrassed on the internet
wew lad

> i will not fall apart just because someone disagree. i am not fragile like you.
Yet you ignored the posts that shows that Deckard is a Replicant. Weird how that happened, ESL faggot.

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>Yet you simultaneously hold the view that the opinion of Ridley Scott, the original direction, does not matter at all.
Objectively wrong, but Villeneuve's opinion matters most with respect to BR2049.

Troll harder.

>Villeneuve's opinion matters more than Ridley Scott's, whose film the character first appeared in
lmao

You literally can't stop embarrassing yourself.

>utterly embarrassed on the internet
>on anonymous board

If you actualy seen both movies and used your brain you would know it is very vague if Deckard is replicant or not. But you propably think you are special boy with flawles ideas. Too bad you are just another human worm like everyone else.

inb4 "AHHHCCTUALLLY DECKARD ISN'T AN ORIGINAL CARAKTER"
I'm fully aware. We're talking about the Blade Runner franchise though. And Ridley Scott's opinion holds more weight in that in regards to the character of Deckard, then Villeneuve.

The point is that if the kid is a halfbreed, then the line is further blurred as to what differentiates humans and replicants.
Much like if two niggers fuck, you can safely say their kid is also a nigger, but if the kid is mixed, to what extent do you define them? How much nigger DNA has to be in a person for them to be considered black or white?
Obviously the point of the film is that it doesnt matter if you are fully replicant or human or mixed, because segregation is bad and everyone should be treated the same.
But for the purpose of the philosophical debates the film wishes to make us think about, Deckard being a replicant makes no sense and shuts down all topics of that nature.

>it is very vague
>literally has someone read his memory files and explicitly show that he knows what's in Deckard's head
>literally has Replicant eyes that are visible in the actual film
lol quit while you're behind

That is only your opinion. I could say opinion of PKD, author of story holds more weight.

>I could say opinion of PKD
it's like you didn't even read the post. seriously, do you have downs or something?

Why did Deckard stop trying to kill K and then monologue a thirty year-old secret moments after he had been trying to murder him?
Because Fancher is an atrocious screenwriter who has no fucking clue how to write characters and the themes on Dick's level

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You lost it with this response, sorry champ.
1/10 because I responded.

It is almoust like you don't have argument.

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>Because Fancher is an atrocious screenwriter who has no fucking clue how to write characters and the themes on Dick's level
It's true
Ridley had to make like 3 directors cuts before he managed to make a good film and Villeneuve heavily edited the script for the sequel to make it good.

You got utterly humiliated and proven wrong time and time again. I appreciate you finally conceding though.

>Ridley Scott's opinion holds more weight that Villeneuve's since he was the director of the first film to feature Deckard
>BR shows Deckard to have Replicant eyes
>BR shows Deckard to have readable memory files
>Ridley Scott explicitly stated that Deckard is a replicant due to above evidence
Those are my arguments. They are all objectively correct. Whereas none of yours are. Weird that. Retarded paki cunt.

If it's old is gold

In fifthy years time people will look at all the garbage from nowadays and say it was revolutionary, or too good for it's time, and I'd you don't believe me look up the original reception of this movie that you now call masterpiece. It's a good movi, really good, but it has some serious flaws that people overlook

But the concept gets worse with a blurred line. They intentionally draw a strong line between the two, because if replicants and humans are truly distinct there is an inherent and unavoidable difference which cannot be meaningfully distinguished. I'm not a fan of 2049, but it hit this pretty hard. Replicants and Humans are separate. You, as an idiot, get caught up with the pointless task of wondering whether a mixed kid is more one than the other. The harder and more impactful question is wondering what to do in the face of a real and meaningful difference which is effectively the same. Normally, we would want to treat things behaviorally, because that is easiest and most effective; K therefore is programmed to behave differently so that the humans feel more comfortable with him. But if replicants, which are not the same as humans (they have different biological and chemical structures, even if the difference is slight) behave exactly the same and no longer have to be made and are no longer programed, how are humans supposed to respond? If replicants can mate with humans, then replicants will simply dissapear into the human population, no one will ever know, and no one will ever care. But if replicants cannot mix, now you have a more interesting question. It is as though your reflection no longer copies you. This imagery is even suggested in the movie--at ever stage it visually shows some form of replication of the human image. There is no good reason within the story to think Deckard is a human.

>BR shows Deckard to have readable memory files
Not true.
>BR shows Deckard to have Replicant eyes
Yes he have. Truth is they wanted to reshoot it because it was mistake.
>Ridley Scott's opinion
That idiot think that aliens are made by black goo cocktail mixed by gay psycho android. His opinion mean nothing to me.

The original reception of the movie was so poor because of the retarded changes that the studio made before releasing it. ie. the voiceover shit (which the ESL retard loves, apparently) and the tacked on happy ending

The original reception of the proper version of the film was much better.

Some of it, but not most of it. Just look at westerns. There are a couple which we look back on say "those were truly great," but most are considered laughable now, and have been for 30 years. If you compare them to the "greats" that preceded them, you will see an actual decrease in quality. This period is particularly weak, because I don't think future generations will accept our obsession with super heroes. Plus, from a film theory perspective, making a sequel or remaking a story simply to update its look and capitalize on the marketing appeal is a completely invalid way to make a movie. It all but guarantees the movie will have no meaningful content, never raising above a stylistic plaything. The only valid remakes are when the Director feels there is something else or more to be said with the same essential story, and in doing so essentially dismisses the prior work as unrelated. This is why Batman Begins and Dark Knight work, but Baffleck doesn't. Exacerbatign the problem, most independent films seem to take more pride in being independent and "different" than in actually telling a compelling story. They've fallen prey to substituting production style and marketing for substance as Hollywood has.

Deckard is in the same situation as a gestapo officer, his job is hunting people who were condemned to death just for existing, you have to be emotionless or an unhealthy cynic to be able to do that.

Agree. Finaly someone that can debate. But that also mean he is not exactly replicant.

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Roy had a choice over life and death. He chose life, proving his soul. It's not hard, user.

>Truth is they wanted to reshoot it because it was mistake.
>The film's Supervising Editor Terry Rawlings remembers that Scott "purposefully put Harrison in the background of the shot, and slightly out of focus, so that you'd only notice his eyes were glowing if you were paying attention
>In regard to the unicorn, Scott states, “How could someone have known what’s inside his head other than someone who has looked at his file and knew what had been implanted in his brain. I can’t be any clearer that that! If you don’t get that, you have to be a moron!”
I love how easy it is to utterly embarrass you. You are objectively wrong in literally everything you say. It's amazing.

The first director's cut was fixing his own mistakes, removing the studio-mandated narration and happy ending, and adding a unicorn dream, the final cut was just fixing more mistakes and adding color grading.

>I love how easy it is to utterly embarrass you.
This is not high school game. Nobody except you care. Do you think you will won award for winning debate in thread that will be forgot in few hours?

Document about BR said diferent story. But i wasn't there when they made that scene so i have no proof about it. Unicorn argument is still bullshit. But what i say is that BR is not realy that good movie. If Deckard is replicant or not is vague. But for autist like you it is more important than your sexlife. In reality it is your choice if Deckard is replicant or not. But i don't realy care. I like idea that both options are possible.

It is still lame movie with great design. You can write more incel crap when i am gone. I will not read. And....

HAVE

SEX

>gives up entirely and resorts back to "HAVE SEX" after being BTFO yet again
lmao you couldn't make it up

He saw lasers and shit nigga

(You)

Then why bother with the fucking fight at all? What was the point of the 10 minutes leading up to this scene if Roy knew he was about do die and none of it mattered?

Checked

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Freddy Mercury made in heaven

Aka puccis requiem stand

Imagine being too stupid for BR. That's actually impressive, user.

>quite an experience, living in fear... thats what it is to be a slave...

An experience didn't he feel at all, because he was never in danger at any point during the fight. It was literally just 10 minutes of him toying with Deckard.

Not an argument kiddo, watch the film before you try to defend it

>I like idea that both options are possible.
I completely disagree that BR is "bad" (just no), but I agree on this. Having it be heavily hinted at but still ambigous makes it a lot more interesting a film than Scott shitting it up going "LOL HE'S A FUCKING ROBOT!!"
See how awful the fanfic tier sequel was by going for this angle.

He literally tells you why he did it and you STILL don't understands. Fucking LMAO. You absolute brainlet.

BR2049 didn't go for the "he's a robot" angle, you brainlet.

Best thread on Yea Forums, bar none.

And gets attacked by a gang of unruly midgets

must be bait. deckard was in danger, you brainlet

they try to steal his tyre and he just drives off, it could happen to anyone

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This was actually a decent thread. Some heated conversation to be sure, but very spirited.

"more human than human"

>BR2049 didn't go for the "he's a robot" angle, you brainlet.
It very blatantly acknowledges the possibility that he's a replicant but chooses not to state if he is or isn't, with the whole "Designed to do nothing short of fall for her... that is, if you were designed" monologue. The film practically winks at the fanbase there, choosing not to alienate either side.

So it does exactly what the first one did? The same thing that you complimented the first one for doing literally the sentence before accusing the sequel of being dumb?

Kek'd.

Looks like you have me confused with someone else there, bucko

Maybe don't jump into the middle of a conversation without even understanding what the conversation is about next time, bucko.

sounds about right

He realized Deckard was a replicant but it should've been apparent already after juggernauting his ass through the building without him dying.

You made a mistake and assumed that only one person could possibly hold an opinion other than your own; you don't have to get embarrassed and act twatty about it. This isn't a place of private conversation

He knew he was going to die real soon and wanted to tell someone about the cool ass c-beams and shit.

No, I'm mocking you for jumping into a conversation explicitly discussing a very particular context, ignoring all of the context and making a completely nonsequitur point. Learn how conversing works before you post. You're a legitimate brainlet. You're like Charlie in that scene in Always Sunny where Mac and Dennis are talking about how Charlie is an idiot that never listens and Charlie replies "Yeah he just doesn't get us man" because he's an idiot that never listens and doesn't realise he's the idiot that never listens.

And at this point I'm mildly embarrassed on your behalf. Good luck going forward in life.

>runs away immediately after being proven to be a retard
What a shocking turn of events!

Having Gaff show in the sequel, in a nursing home, was really dumb. His character should have been above that kind of treatment. Emmet Walsh is still alive, and acting. It should have been him.

Batty goes thru the 7 Stages of Grief. Him saving Rick's life is a showing of acceptance. Remember that the Replicants only have 3 year life spans, they come into the world as fully grown humans but they act like toddlers having a shitfit that they've been cursed to die young.

WHen he grabs his hand he shouts

"KINSHIP"

He sees Deckard's struggle to survive as the same as his own. He develops empathy in his last moments and decides to spare deckard because he's got moments left and it doesn't matter anyway.

Also, he wanted to tell him about the shit he's seen because he knows that once he's gone his memories will be gone and passing a piece of them on is as good as he's going to get.

Deckard being a replicant destroys the point of the movie, as well as the source material. Just because Ridley became senile and inserted footage (from another film), doesn't mean it's the correct way to handle it. Ridley Scott's lost it. That's why his recent movies are all terrible and all he can do is try to spoil the work others did that he takes credit for. He's ruined Aliens, now he's gonna ruin Gladiator.

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>source material
This is how you know someone is bad at understanding film.

Posting on Yea Forums is how you know someone is bad at understanding film.

Roy understands what Deckard is and if both of them die there all those moments would be lost like tears in the rain. If Deckard lives and understands what he is too then Roy´s struggle will be remembered and thus his existence would not have been in vain.

That's the point you dumb faggot. He was trying to make Deckard feel fear he was never going to kill him.

That's a yikes for me

>reddit memes
Yeah, as if I needed any further confirmation lmao

This place wasn't always a complete cancerous shithole of low effort b8 and retards triggered into being useful idiots.
When I heard they were making another blade runner movie I had kind of hoped they would have gone with a re-adaptation of the source material.
I love blade runner, but I think you could do some fair justice to do androids dream... They're different enough that it would be free to be its own thing.
Stuff like the dark-sector replicant district in san francisco where they almost gaslight Deckard into thinking he WAS a replicant. Mercerism is a neat angle. The Penfield Mood Organ. Rachel being a carbon copy of Pris, him sleeping with her to make sure he could go through with killing the rest of the replicants. Deckard having a gnostic epiphany about empathy as he compares toads to frogs. More than enough to inform and distill into a completely different movie.

Because ultimately the replicants value life more than humans do since theirs is so artificially short. It's one of the major themes of Blade Runner - the robots are more human than the actual humans.

PKD has loads of stories that would make great films, would be a waste to do electric sheep again.
Three stigmata of palmer eldrich when

>Three stigmata of palmer eldrich when
I've had a dream movie in my head for a while with either terry gilliam, or michel gondry directing. I think either one has the visual style to recreate that depressing world and eldrich slowly leaching into it. I just imagine a scene where the background slowly shifts between realities in camera while Paul Giamatti as Leo Bulero tries to deal with Palmer.
Jake Gyllenhal is Bernie Mayerson.

i don't know. ask him.

God I fucking hate that movie. GF loves Ananas Express and she tricked me into watching The Interview and this shit. It's honestly one of the worst movies I have ever seen and I absolutely hate it.

>jonah hill gets raped by a demon
>michael cera gets impaled on a spike
>emma watson rape jokes
>channing tatum is eastbound and down's gimp
It's not all bad.