Get over it, virgins

CGI should only be done in one of two ways.

1. The entire film is CGI

2. Nothing in the film is CGI

Anything in between is pure cancer.

imagine paying someone to build a prop, ridiculous

Every capeshit movie is like this.

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Or a set, like cave men.

couldn't even use a real room. fucking christ no wonder budgets have gone through the roof. Counter with a rice cooker and plant is too much to ask for

that's a pretty overly dramatic all or nothing attitude, as exemplified by your (you)ing everybody

check out every helicopter or traffic in every film from the past twenty years

youtube.com/watch?v=bL6hp8BKB24

>That little fucking waddle the guy on the far right does

Didn't even notice THE ENTIRE ROOM wasn't there, and you're expecting me to complain?

I disagree.
Mad Maxine Furious Broad is a good way to do good CGI, for example.

this is a prank, right?

Most retarded post of the day

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>capeshitting

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Are actors even in the same place in these flicks or do they shoot all their scenes in front of a green screen separately?

The simple truth is that, just like practical effects, CGI can be done well. The thing is that both share the same flaw, when they are done poorly, it fucking shows.

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MCU in a nutshell.

>could give him any gun painted green.
>give him no gun, use a real gun anyways.

I'm gonna level with you. That is a totally plebian parrot brain opinion
>durrr its all just like some of this and some of that man, whatever

CGI and practical vfx have fundamentally different characteristics. Physical effects, even when shit, still register in the brain as physical objects that can be touched

Do they shoot scenes of dialogue without knowing where they take place?

This

CGI truly making everything possible, even a guy sitting on a chair. Old time directors could only dream of something like this.

SOUL
SOULESS

Tom Holland did say some of his scenes in Infinity war were just him saying stuff or reacting but not knowing who he was talking to or what he was reacting to

further evidence that these movies are generated by AI

Fincher movies are an example on cgi done right

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>There are people on this board with this type of surface level knowledge on cinema.

youtube.com/watch?v=-sZS8OVyVr4

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the real thing basically serves as a storyboard for an animated movie

Were the Star Wars Prequels ahead of their time, for they used CGI the same way?

Based Miller

what is this scene even from?

Why...they need to cgi this shit?

cgi hate is antiquated and only applies to low tier trash like the MCU

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Why does he have 2 penises on his right hand?

guessing Godzilla

does his finger phase through the trigger guard?
when did nick fury get this power?

>t. retard who doesn't work in the industry.

Actually, sometimes a little CG goes a long way, Like putting clouds in the sky, or changing the way a street looks etc.

That said, the whole, let's not even bother building a set is kind of insane.

King Ghidorah in Godzilla King of the Monsters

this is why all mcu movies feel the same and no thats not a good thing

fucking perfect

cgi is great for doing the impossible or touching up scenes, filming everything in front of a green screen is retarded

some friends said to me that nig fury is a skrull or kree or some shit
so it kinda make sense if thats the explanation

The whole movie is about tricking the audience through technological illusions. That we were fooled shows how meta this kino is. Take a bow, Marvel, take a bow.
*tips fedora*
*smirks*
*wipes sweat of acne-covered brow*
*sharts*
*shoves sausage finger down ass crack and sniffs*
*smiles in contentment*

it makes no sense

How did he do it bros?

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Why would they cg the gun?
Only reason I could imagine is that Sam Jackson's old hands couldn't keep the gun steady so they needed to use a super lightweight prop.

is this b8?

Worst post on Yea Forums right now

spongebob memes wahoo

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top clearly is cgi but it looks better

Is this a picture for spiders?

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Considering how much the hollywood rich boys behind these films know about guns, it might aswell been on purpose and they just thought that's how guns worked.

wait, that was practical?
why even bother if everyone will think it's all CG anyway

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>hehe lets all stand in front of the stunt even though there is an unmanned camera crane! We totally need to be here!

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You're a fucking idiot dude

how can people be so idiotic?

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Australians

>that based bro who pulls his friend to safety milliseconds before a crushing death

did he died?

The absolute state of Yea Forums

>hawkeye runs in so he can shoot arrows

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Anthony Mackie had no idea he was in Ant-Man

You're wrong.

Thank god you are in here instead of making movies out there beefy.

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What the fuck is the point in shooting this green screen? They could have literally had a physical set for this in 20 minutes.

prop and set makers are well paid unionized jobs while computer vfx artists are low paid numbered slaves that are fired the instant they think about workers rights.

unless you are a big director such as Quieten Tarantino or Wes Anderson that has power over the studio, the studio will force the filmmakers to use cheap labor wherever possible
youtube.com/watch?time_continue=10&v=wTIW6EAacJo

MR. HICKEY LET ME OUT OF THIS BATTLE ANGEL IMMEDIATELY

that scarjo stuntMAN

The fact that this has to be pointed out suggests it's actually very good cgi, though? What's the problem with this specific shot?

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looks like it might have bounced over the camera on the ground

who tf tucks their bottom lip like that

FUCK ALITA FAGS

>prop and set craft becoming a lost art because jews can just gweenscween everything now
This kind of thing actually makes me angry.

Meanwhile real kinography
youtube.com/watch?v=Um0aZKbpe1Y

>Mission Copypastable
>Kino

Absolutely not

You are very misinformed. CGI tends to be more expensive (though it can vary from case by case), but studios use it because it is faster and allows for more flexibility.

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>They hated him because he told them the truth

>Perfect. Cut and print.

The thing I'm most disappointed by is the trigger guard sticking through Nick Fury's finger

>Why would they cg the gun?
This way they can replace it with a less offensive item when the time comes

(you)

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>swinging with his left hand in the first shot and last shot with the stuntman
>swinging with his right hand in the middle shot with zach levi
shit movie i hope the script supervisor got fired

that's just the editing for the behind the scenes footage

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It's not CGI, it's composition, which can be done easily (comparatively) and will look real because the background is real
and the point is they're doing it for no reason

Nothing beats the real deal.

This is the right answer, they did exactly that in Thor Ragnarok and I assume there are many more instances that we don't know about

Kevin Feige ghost directs these flicks and the directors are merely pawns

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Fuck off brie, you will never measure up to Tom.

Because they care? And that shot looked pretty good in the movie

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Why the fuck was any of this necessary? Some drywall and paint costs less than VFX

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But they are doing for a reason. It's a 200 million dollar movie. They no doubt had a very good reason.

Never forget:
youtube.com/watch?v=fBzpT7VmSaU

They only changed that in the trailer. That scene takes place at the same place Odin dies, and it'd be really fucking weird for Odin to die in a alley on a space planet. That, and the fact that Thor's hammer is destroyed before they ever even get to weird planet. There's no way it would ever work in the movie. To help audiences understand that most of the movie takes place on this weird jeff goldblum planet, they changed the background of that shot for the trailer.

Nolaaan!

>black panther's naruto run

Jesus Christ

this is a strawman, the criticism is the over-reliance upon CG, not its use in and of itself. no one complains about lord of the rings, know why? because it was used correctly. compare that to the marvel or transformers bullshit where it's this nauseating camera jerking around while shiny animated metal rubik's cubes around the screen.

the argument in the quoted post

"movies should either use all CGI or no CGI"

my argument is that CGI is utilized by many films in ways that aren't even always visible

They could have changed the whole scene
There was no reason to "hide for the trailer" because that background doesn't give anything away. It's just a field.

invisible CGI?!?

the original shot was an alley on Earth, as far as it looked like, when Thor is in NYC looking for Odin which happens right before
So they could have altered it

Yeah, probably so they can give him a gun that would make sense for his character rather than spending money on a generic prop.

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The reason was not to hide it, but to better translate the concept of what the movie is about to the audience.

metal gear??

why make the gun and the hotel room cgi?

Yeah. What?

this but unironically

realistic prop guns are too scary to have on set

>studios use it because it is faster and allows for more flexibility.
This. If test audiences dislike something, it's easier to erase CGI than re-film the whole scene. Sadly CGI has more to do with giving into the will of moronic test audiences than budget.

Fucking retard

why not just put a real gun in his hand ffs?

And risk him shooting them?

>die in a alley on a space planet. That, and the fact that Thor's hammer is destroyed before they ever even get to weird planet.

The alley was on earth you worthless fucking retard. They simply changed it from new york to norway

I remember reading that it was shot in an alley, then for whatever reason they decided to change the location later. I think they had a good reason for it, but it did look a bit weird.

Are you stupid? They always planned for it to be in the NY alley before deciding to change the scene elsewhere

The official reason for the change was that king Odin Allfather dying in some New york alley like a bum wasnt doing him justice and took away potential sentiment. So they changed the scene to a peaceful norway spot overlooking the water for the heart to heart with the him and his sons. Instead taxis and cars honking in the background and shit

This is pretty cool. I was wondering if they hand tweaked the animations for the movie because Ghidorah actually looked like he had emotions.

it's funny cuz this was one of the only distractingly bad CGI-enhanced scenes in the movie, to me at least. I didn't like how they made the guitar on the bungee cord fly directly at the screen. Stupid.

nice

Good ol' Nick "Dickfingers" Fury...
Did they CGI the cocks on his hand?

Pretty much this, there is no vision to these films. Everything is designed by committee and subject to constant change.

>can get all an actors scenes done on green screen without moving between dozens of sets and locations
>only need the actor for a couple days instead of weeks
>have more control during editing

I see the appeal even if I dont like it

>alley on earth
I don't know, the palette of the alley sure looks like the color palette used on Sakaar.

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>youtube video essay
lol the mad max footage looks way better before they spooged their 300 tier cartoon fruity color shit on top of it.
Even george miller was so embarassed as soon as he had time to think that he put out a re-do as soon as he could
>how do we fix the gay cringe colors and shit
>just get rid of fucking everything

It's because it was an illusion

Kino filmmaking

>So Tom the scene after that is a helicopter chase.
>Awesome, I guess I'll need to learn how to fly a helicopter then.
>Uh, sure?
Where the fuck did they find Tom Cruise?

It was Earth. They even shot scenes with Odin dressed as a hobo

Never

>from full sprint to slow jog
yeah that's how death fights work

reddit samefag

when did Disney go from making legendary animated kids movies to being a global evil organization hell bent on destroying the entertainment industry ? Did good ol’ Hitler lover Disney himself curse them ?

I hope you people aren't really this retarded in real life but that stuntman crashing into the police car is obviosuly CGI.

Cool but why not just use a normal house?

Yes, I'm seeing the green background there.

>prepares to punch with his left hand in one take
>does the punch with his right

on that day, Samuel L. Jackson didn't want to enter a house

They can't even afford a gun, you think they can afford a house?

The alley was a set in Ragnarok though. There's shots of the cast standing in it. That's why the scene in the finished movie has Hela look fuzzy round the edges, it was a bitch to cut her out frame by frame.
Also the old people home that's being demolished? Used to be a real set until Taika changed his mind to have Odin die on a nondescript field instead of an alley.

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the madman

Odin was originally probably going to be at the goldblum planet as a hobo.

When you're not a low iq manchild this is exactly how capeshit looks to you even after production

Based and readmymindpilled

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that movie was painfully mediocre
and seemed to revel in it

bug films for bug people

Gwyneth Paltrow has no idea what movies she has been in since Iron Man 3

partly
also saves on building sets - those are made by people with unions, unlike VFX
and saves on hauling actors around

What was the purpose of making the gun cgi?

When the jews took it over

The second camera is on the other side

the video is too shaky. did anyone dieded?

I love how EVERYONE criticized lucas for doing this

and here we are. EVERYONE is doing it.

>Look, mom! I am acting!

This is worse than the infamous TLJ fight gifs

literally looks like a ps2 game

This is proof that the MCU has no soul. They have no clear vision, no aesthetic.
The first Iron Man movie is still the best one because most of the suits were practical, it felt real. By the time of Iron Man 3 the actor only had the shoulder pieces, the rest (including the helmet) was CGI.

Australia and New Zeeland lacked actors unions, and everyone there was paid as if they were a supermarket cashier. I think this changed during the filming of The Hobbit, so its over now.

absolute kinomancy

I bet that dust cloud debris was a pain in the ass to work around to get clarity in the shot

>The Gang Gets Mo-Capped

is his finger clipping through the trigger guard in the bottom pic?

jesus mary and joseph!

>using CGI to portray a CGI character

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Is it just the perspective or are his hands fucking huge?

You're so retarded.

Nah the best way to use it in live action is very sparingly to touch up small details or do things that you couldnt do lice actiob like giant robots or monsters.

I think ALL Sneedposters should be drawn and quartered but that was pretty funny.

fuck off retard
they have a segment about that stunt in the behind the scenes, they put a metal plate on his back and the car is obviously more fragile. All real.

Holy crap, this is such a dumb opinion... It surprised me.

kino cruise

shame the movie sucked

How can anybody not like Jason Momoa? He's such a swell guy

But why
What could a producer possibly want to change about a stock office room and a fake tranquilizer gun

No, after the retirement home got demolished he became an NYC bum

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it's from reshoots, sam is busy and shoots like 10 movies a year

but this post will be buried bc Yea Forums is shit

you have a good point
but I disregarded it because you felt the need to reply to everyone.

Bob Iger took control and his entire strategy was "Buy as many multibillion dollar safe bets as possible and make Disney a corporate giant"

Cruise kino

That's her bouncing on muh dick lmao.

I don't get it, wouldn't the people who liked this kind of cinema be virgins whilst the people who disliked it would be anti-virgins ? I wouldn't have thought it was the other way around.

who tf tucks their bottom lip like that
Rosa Salazar, apparently. It's performance capture, everything you see is something she did.

>Miller is 74

I saw it yesterday and had a lot of fun despite it not being muh spider-man
I was surrounded with zoomers who loved almost every joke

I'm okay with using cgi for live action movies. Like in Lord Of The Ring and The Hobbit where they bulid large detailed sets, costumes, and apply a heavy amount of make up and only use cgi for thing that would either bankrupt them or are impossible like the trolls,the goblin king,or Smuag. But when they do it like the MCU movies or live action remakes where the actors are all in gimp suits running around in a green room where even there props are cgi then thats souless.

In case anyone's wondering; cgi is a relatively easy way to make a lot of money and get into the industry.
It's not that hard. You just have to devote the time to learning how to do it. I'm 100% serious

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Iron-Man vs CheapPlastic-Man

kek

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>work in vfx
>tfw i get paid to make Yea Forums mad

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I know it looks like it's a practical shot but I still feel like they used that shitty cgi zoom on it

Which movies have you worked on, and are you proud of the results?

since you've seen it, is that two different people? the actor goes up stunt man goes down?

Show proof.

sometime after the 70s

>no trigger discipline
Did he learn nothing from his friend?

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Both of the paddington movies, my job title is character fx, so a lot of fur and hair sims.
We're on the new lion king currently
good one

That’s not CGI, that’s a composite shot.

>Greenscreening a fucking hotel room and a tranq gun

Also I believe the graffiti in the background had the artist (tagger) lodge a complaint wanting compensation

Those are filmed in Atlanta for the Georgia tax credits.

They weren't lazy enough to make a digital weapon for a real life actor though, can't say about the room because iirc Sheev's office was digital in AotC

God i love George Miller and his movies, highly recommend everyone see the behind the scenes from Fury road
youtube.com/watch?v=ent02yItm60

the reason CG sucks ass in scenes like this is because it is treated as a lazy shortcut when it should be treated as an art form.

Everything related to the Walking With series disagrees, even the shitty kids movie. Even nu Lion King looks good at least visually, shame that CGI is wasted in a souless remake rather than a god tier prehistoric "documentary".

The saddest part about the rise of lazy CG has been the degradation of lighting technique. I think it goes a long way in the cheap look of movies today.

So you mean to tell me that this shit is some sort of elaborate tax evasion scheme?

For real tho. What aspect of cgi makes it look "fake"?. I thought it was supposed to be the next-gen problem solver and a brand new way for filmmakers to solve stuff but seriously it just got worse?

What's everyone's stance on CGI use? Should it be for fantasy/capeshit MCU movies only? Should you always strive for practical effects? Or should filmmakers prioritize CGI due to budget?

kek they cant be bothered to make a fucking prop gun even

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should've kept this in the movie toBhonest with you

>giving Samuel L Jackson an actual gun
Big mistake

Why does that look like Toronto?

>They have no clear vision, no aesthetic.
You really didnt watch any of these movies isnt it?
Most of Phase 3 movies had great aethestic, specially Ragnarok

That's what greed and laziness look like to me. Good thread, your parents would be proud if they knew you were still alive.

>specially Ragnarok
I seriously hope you are not looking up to that pile of shit except as an example of what you shouldn't do if you don't want to make a pile of shit.

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lol

CGI is more expensive than practical, but it's easier for directors to do. CGI looks fake when the VFX studio gets rushed, like with most MCU movies. It can look amazing when the filmmaker lets the VFX team take their time, like Cameron did on Avatar and Alita, or when used to enhance practical effects, like in Mad Max: Fury Road.
CGI is a tool, it should be used when necessary by people who know what they're doing, not as a crutch by lazy people.

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>All I’ll say is this, on the record: There was an early draft of Iron Man 3 where we had an inkling of a problem. Which is that we had a female character who was the villain in the draft. We had finished the script and we were given a no-holds-barred memo saying that cannot stand and we’ve changed our minds because, after consulting, we’ve decided that toy won’t sell as well if it’s a female. So, we had to change the entire script because of toy making.

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that looks like a cartoon.

How is life as a blind man, user?

The suit was replaced by CGI in the first Iron Man, and he switched to wearing a mocap suit before they finished filming it.

cause it is

Sneedposting is getting to the phase where people with an actual sense of humor and decent OC skills are getting in on it. It's what happened to baneposting years ago.

That's looked like shit.

Peak uncanny valley

>greenscreen everywhere
>desaturated colors
>costumes replaced with shitty CGI in post
I think I've watched enough MCU movies. I stopped after Infinity War, to me it was the perfect ending for the MCU (quipping Whedon characters get owned by Thanos with facts and logic).

>t. pleb

I'd like to see a MCUfag defend that kind of practice.

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transformers cgi is perfect.

why is that one war boy there beside the stuntman without any protection?

Greenscreen =/= CGI
Most of it is for compositing. It's quite possible they couldn't get Samuel L. Jackson on the day they shot Peter's camera angle on the same set. People who know nothing about film production need to stop commenting.

>all these replied
Based and absolutely correct

Holy there is actualy a very small peice of the set that isn't a greenscreen, thats a rarity in the MCU!

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It was a crashtest doll with makeup

everything is plastic and rubber
lol

>CGI is a tool
Like you, cliché boy.

as much as it would cost more to CGI, at least you can swap textures on the fly as opposed to spending resources with live material
>same amount of hours to do the research, but it takes more time to tear down a set and replace it with real props

Everyone criticized lucas for it because it looked terrible

the sets they build are only used for scale/lighting reference and get replaced by CGI too

>greenscreen for something as simple as that
no wonder movies have no fucking soul anymore. Only ones who put in work are the cgifags and editors

You know that film productions have massive prop departments that custom build props for films/tv shows and it not like you and your friends shooting star wars fan films in your back yard, right?

The guy in that video uses video of backdrops being CGd in. That’s less offensive since you typically don’t see the detail on the stuff, in comparison to see Marvel sets and fights that help show the characters aren’t interacting with anything. It makes the world feel less real when you see the multitude of little problems like when the Marvel movies had Iron Man flying at the same pace others were running.

Real reason: the company making the toys couldn’t agree on what the gun was supposed to look like in time
Yea Forums reason: the jews

but those are the same reason

I don't get this, why not having them fight incostume instead of going toku show quality?

thank you for saying what needed to be said. very brave of you

Because disney is retarded and didn’t respect the amount of time the fx team needed

>nobody will never make a movie like Fitzcarraldo ever again

nothing like this will ever be done again

Yes, it makes no sense what so ever. It is basically a sign of a bankrupt creative process which aims only to churn out products that make money.

Today this movie would be fully filmed in a studio against a green screen.

Are you saying it isn't a tool?

You say this as if its less shitty and depressing.

It was because people didn't understand how much ahead of the curve Lucas actually was.

a lot of the stuff in the prequels isn't even cgi but people get butthurt about the weirdest shit

Using xgen by any chance? Got any tips?

Because he's riding historic, duh

Literally no one in history other than Herzog would do a movie like that

based

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they're literally not

God Marvel movies are so bland and plain looking. DC are way better. Batman VS Superman is beautiful.

Das Black Panther, our King Kang. You rayciss, wh*te boi?

The world doesn't deserve Momoa desu.

I will never understand this stuff.

>mounting a set: Less than 1k dollaridoos
>making a full CGI set for no fucking reason beyond being too much of a hack to regulate lightning on a real environment: Literally thousands
Dooshite

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user, you have to texture all that shit, calibrate the lightning and shadows, care about physics and reflections, and so on. It is not the same amount of time, doing the CGI is WAY harder. Directors only do this because they are trowing the problems in the hand of CGI companies underpaid slaves, instead of putting a set together by themselves and make small decisions.

mounting a set: forced to hire people to do it within a certain time frame, likely to fail or do it wrong and cause production delays
cgi set: make it at a more reasonable pace and able to change it on a whim without having to gather all the crew and cast to reshoot a small change.

>vandal demands royalties

Clown world.

cincimono arigato Thor-kun!

>ara ara
Even in weaboonese she is full mommy

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Reminds me of this

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yeah the like 3d gimmick thing is actually one of the moments i genuinely disliked from the movie

I want to watch it on japanese now, but I'm struggling to find it. pls help

>10 hours
vs
>10 minutes + whatever rendering time
What is stock photography collections

>he thinks it is stock photos
user, a movie isn't like your shitty youtube videos. You don't have full control of lightning of the environment in pictures. All that shit behind him, the wall, the porcelain, the table, the little tree, it is all CGI, and it was all textured by hand. The director didn't work on it, but a bunch of temps and underpaid millennials did.

Basically.

this post is brought to you by mmmm grayons

Ignore the detractors. This is the most based post on Yea Forums right now.

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I like how even here you can tell the left head is retarded

I like how retarded your implication is. That nobody oversees this and that nobody pays attention to it, but you had to have another dumb fuck tell you it was fake before your could start posturing about the inherent micromanagement that is making a film.

>what are stock photo textures for production studios
>what is After Effects / DaVinci Resolve / 3DSMax

absolutely based

I always thought the animatronics in the first Jurassic Park held up to even the most ones in the franchise. Their movement and design just seems more natural and fluid to me than modern CGI.

You deserve to be slapped for this post. Fuggen sonofabiscuit.

The new Lion King has been finished for a while

Shitskin low budget fest

They didnt. Prequels used a lot of full sets that looked like CGI because it was shot digitally at 1440x1080

>tfw the unfinished scene is more entertaining to watch.

fucking based
absolutely fucking based