What did we think of it?

Inherent Vice
A Scanner Darkly
Videodrome

I enjoyed it quite a bit but it's certainly ambitious for a follow up feature. Wouldn't be surprised if it stalls his career honedtly. It Follows was a much simpler and focused film; surprised he went this route for his second feature.

Kino, and Riley keough is a kinoqt

Turning Teeth is a great song.

Hey I just finished watching it. 1st half is very good but then is filled with nonsense and ends full of plotholes.
Still very interesting and the sights of LA are perfect

>plot holes
literally not a single one

>Plot holes: The movie

Name one

we really need a "slacker noir" chart

Liked it, best non animated or documentary film of 2018

the dog killer, the owl lady, who shot his friend, who shot them at the lake

I liked it way more than Inherent Vice.
Is LA really this shit?

pleb filter

I loved it and saw it 2 times already

I thought she was Dakota Johnson the entire movie. Then I read she was supposed to do that role but had to drop it for schedule problems so it had sense.

Not bad. I disliked the phone call between the protagonist and the lady in the bunker. I felt it gave too much away. Otherwise it was very enjoyable and the songwriter sequence was fantastic.

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>He's the dog killer
>She was there
>If you mean the comic guy owl lady killed him
>Hobo king minions

If you can get over the slow pace you might really enjoy Too Old To Die Young.

Unanswered questions aren’t plot holes, you autist. Stick to capeshit.

youtube.com/watch?v=fRyirVgs1yc

absolut kinographé

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I can't believe how disliking It Follows so much this guy pull out this great film.

thats the exact definition of plot holes, dumb ameritard

the songwriter part end nowhere.

This. A plot hole is when a movie establishes a rule/logic and then breaks it for the sake of the plot. For a grounded film the rules and logic is often implied but a surreal/sci fi movie would sometimes establish one.

Best burgerkino of the last few years. But it criticized Hollywood so it became kino non grata. Pity.

It's a shitty sequel to On Golden Pond.

It’s literally not. It’s a mystery story about a dude stumbling onto a vast conspiracy, there’s absolutely no reason to expect every question to be answered. We only see a fraction of the big picture because that’s where Sam stops. He found the girl, he doesn’t want to know more than that.

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I see what you did there

brainlet here, who was the dog killer?

a fitting ending for a slacker

Him, the bird lady or "Oliver", as the parrot keep calling

I think it's left up in the air for the viewer to decide. Nothing persuaded me either way, just another element of mystery for the film.

shit poster
good movie

Best L.A since Drive, right?

Maybe Sam, but it doesn’t matter. It’s just part of the story’s atmosphere: unexplained murders and disappearances that might be connected or might not. A good conspiracy story doesn’t give you straight answers.

I didn't get what this scene is supposed to represent

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I think this is just a reference to Holy Mountain where jesus shit gets turned to gold.
I like this one a lot more

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there was zero explanation why the hell would (((they))) put secret messages into anything, yet finding them repeatedly was a driving element for the story

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it was spelled out: the secret messages aren't meant for you

they put messages for the rich people to give them messages to follow, not to people like you plebian, that's why you don't get it, because they aren't supposed to be for you, goy.

>all these new replies
>same number of posters
WHO’S PAYING YOU TO MAKE THESE POSTS!?

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The message in the song literally tells Sam where to go to be led into the caves. That’s how the rich guys know how to find their tombs. Did you even watch the movie?

lame attention hoe

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Are you capable of forming your own opinions?

I don't buy this hide in plain sight bullshit

Huh?

I liked it. I still don't know if the movie is trying to simply pander to women by addressing the metoo movement and calling Sam's sex obsessed behavior as toxic masculinity, or if the movie is about how nihilistic music (like the piano scene, the music Sam likes) and films are bad and how ugly Hollywood can be.

Does anyone know?

That's what it is... Go to a pizza place and check out for FBI pedo logos list, they are there.

But why

>pander to women by addressing the metoo movement and calling Sam's sex obsessed behavior as toxic masculinity
When did that happen? I only remember that with the kick in the balls and the women bathroom scene

The movie never once criticizes “toxic masculinity”, where are you even getting that from? It’s a commentary on Hollywood and pop culture in general.

Screenplay was written in the late 2000s according to director.

I'm not saying I believe it, I'm just saying it's a possibility because critics have brought it up. Apparently a lot of them think Sam is the embodiment of toxic masculinity because he's lazy, hates the poor, fucks random girls regardless of their feelings, so shallow that he chases the conspiracy just to fuck a girl, and the pool scene where she's naked parallels the nude Marilyn Monroe movie scene, then he fucks that actress, and almost fucks that balloon girl, then he fucks his neighbor

I mean, Sam fucks several girls and almost every girl he encounters wants to fuck him and the 1 time it doesn't happen, it's cause a girl kicks him in the balls

Read my response. Here I just saw some critics say Sam sees women as sex objects and the director is showing how toxic men like that are

The film is smart enough to show his behavior and let the viewers draw their own conclusions. The behavior is explicit and underlined, but nobody comes screaming MESSAGE in your face. The viewer is not infantilized.

It's decently good writing.

Sauce? I don't think it was written in the late 2000s

This, same feeling as with Burning.

Into the Void

But you don't think it's intention that Sam is written as a sex obsessed and shallow and just uses women?

So glad some of you niggers finally watched this.

Who else assumed at the end when he was getting grilled by Hobo King about the dog treats that it would be revealed he was the dog killer and imagined half the goddamn movie? So glad we didn't get that ending, by the way.

Then what do you think it's about? Is it exposing nihilism in film and music (this explains the piano man scene) and how Hollywood has corrupted people?

Funny how he says he thinks homeless people are annoying and lazy but ends up homeless at the end cause he didn't pay his rent kek

I think he's the dog killer and bluffed the Hobo King with his sad story, which could be also true, yet he kills dogs at night in a catathonic state anyways.

>dude nothing happens all our symbolism was for some hella gay shit

>Characters is sexual addict
>Ends as a toyboy of an old lady
heh

Sam was definitely an autist. The two times he got to really reveal himself outside of being A) an amateur sleuth or B) a fuccboi, he went off on rants about conspiracies and how gross the homeless were. To me, it was a testament to how garbage a guy can be in LA and still get laid. The rich guys did the same thing, spewing asinine drivel and still accumulating a harem.

Seems the point was to underscore how shallow and stupid LA girls are and how easy it is to take advantage of them even if you're a piece of shit.

Its intentional but it’s part of the commentary on media, rather than feminist bullshit. One of the plot’s biggest themes is how media influences us, remember the comic book guy’s whole spiel about subliminal messaging?

the homeless are fucking SHIT you bleeding heart

It was him "letting go of his worldly things". Frankly, he's more enlightened than the rich assholes in the mountain because they still needed those things for at least another 6 months. Sam truly did not give a fuck. I guess the moral is, if you don't need a bunch of 7s and 8s and can be fine banging 5s and 6s, you dont need a job or home.

Thrash

Critics didn't like how women are portrayed in the film. Idk. I just don't know if the film is criticizing men who view women as sex objects, or of there's a bigger message about Hollywood and nihilism

The Big Lebowski
Mulholland Drive

Didn't say they weren't, friendo, just that he actually ranted out loud about it, to woman he was trying to fuck. Big no no, usually, but these LA broads will sit on a moldy banana, apparently.

It was boring

>Jay finds this disgusting

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I got from it that it's about his march to nihilism. At the end he just doesn't give a fuck. The whole movie he's distracting himself from much bigger problems (no job, losing his home) to chase skirt, and then he very happily watches his landlord angrily preparing to tear all his shit out of his old apartment. He obtained pure nihilistic bliss. The message is: LA sucks, people here suck, so fuck it. A modern day The Dude.

Was she the owl lady?
Good ass anyways

>Director: David Lynch
I'm in
>post-twin peaks
oh...

I don't think she was

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>One of the plot’s biggest themes is how media influences us, remember the comic book guy’s whole spiel about subliminal messaging?

But I thought the message was conspiracies lead us nowhere and it's pointless?

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Mullholland Drive is a great film the hell all you complaining about.

they put conspiracies as silly as possible (Music old man and Pyramids for rich).
The media controlling people is the real deal.

You think it was pro nihilism? I thought if it is addressing nihilis, then it's exposing that worldview. I mean, the piano man sequence hurts Sam because all of his heroes were just used as puppets to brainwash people and Sam feels betrayed. Everything he believed in is a lie. And by the end of it, he ends up no better than the homeless people he mocked. He has no goals, no home, and no future because he adopted nihilism

That's what I got from it, but it's possible the director is praising nihilism since postmodernism is a popular thing nowadays

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one think makes me confused, there is some 1999 and 2001 versions, both by Lynch
is there a difference?
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do you even watch any american movies at all?

How does this movie parallel to Burning
I don't see the connection at all

Eyes Wide Shut

First is a tv pilot, then they added stuff for make it a 90 minutes movie
Second is kino as it should be watch

screenwriting, not themes

Fuck A24 and fuck their lack of marketing this top-tier film.

Check out the epic reddit thread- a lot of hidden secrets and symbolism in the movie you will never notice without help: reddit.com/r/underthesilverlake/

yikes, i enjoyed the movie but not enough to obsessively break down every frame

Cringe

Screenwriting?

He's the dog killer, he just told some bullshit to the hobo king in order to not get merked by him or the owl lady.

Slacker
A Scanner Darkly
Ghost World
Brick
Donnie Darko
Southland Tales
Blow Out
Body Double
Chinatown
Lost Highway
Mulholland Drive
Repo Man

Are you kidding me?