He was 100% right and only amerisharts will disagree

I mean that's not true in the slightest but feel free to believe that.

Have you ever been out of usa?
Most countries have tipping based on service, giving the waiters a few coins, a 5/10€ note or simply round up and tell them to keep the change

NA is the only region i've been in where tipping is systematically forced and autistically calculated by percentage of the total

What are you on about, the biggest thing stopping businesses is ts tipping its extortionate rent and land rates

>Have you ever been out of usa?

Yes I moved away from the US in 2008, there are less restaurants overall.

sure thing buddy
what about fast food joints? They don't get tips. Plus I believe the owner is required to pay them minimum wage if the tips don't cover it (which means faggot tippers pay their wage for the owner and the waiters are happy about that since it isn't taxed)

>sure thing buddy

You are a fucking faggot dude, why ask a question and then scoff at it?

What? You can get literally any type of food in Japan, especially Tokyo. I love that I can just sit at a table, order, then call over the waitress when I need her. She doesn't try to inject herself into my conversations to earn a better tip.

>15% automatic gratuity
You fucking Eurocucks need another black plague!

>NA is the only region i've been in where tipping is systematically forced
You've never been here

No one said you can't.

I didn't ask that question and you're full of shit, we don't have "less food options" here

>fuck all for food choices

???

Never understood it. Never will. How did the tipping culture even start? Who thought it was needed to balance things out? It seems fucking stupid. And Amerifats think the working class having rights and decent salary socialist.

they're supposed to marry and make white babies

He was relentlessly wrong.

Fewer restaurant choices doesn't mean none.

The working class can't afford to eat out in most countries but can in america, funny how that works.

It's stupid.

>businesses can pay their workers shit
>if we get rid of tipping then food prices go up
>good waiters can make a lot in tips on a weekend
>waiters think they are entitled to tips for bringing a plate from point a to b

As usual Europe ruins everything.

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More like
>as usual, Americans steal something European and bastardize it

Everyone in the west can out in restaurants
t. unemployed and eat in restaurants 1-3 times a week

>I took the time to refill this guys water and he only tipped me 15%

What's the rule on tipping? 10% of the bill?

10% is an insult. The bare minimum is 15%.

I see.

>be german
>go to restaurant
>service is meh, food is meh
>don't tip

>go to different restaurant
>service is great, waiter is funny but doesnt annoy us
>food is great
>tip to show them that i am more than satisfied

That's how it should be.

How much did you relentlessly tip?

Just round it up, it's not like anybody will complain

>Take a look at countries that don't have tipping there are fuck all food choices
I thought only America tipped? Are you saying there isn't any good food outside of there?

cant remember. Usually to the next round sum. Like if the food is 44,70 for whatever reason I'll give 50 so so.

Imagine typing all this and pressing the post button and thinking yeah this is how it is this is a good post

Does it matter? He just explained how it should work. There are countries where tipping is not allowed at all, waiters just paid well.

In america: calculate 20% of the total like a retard
In europe and rest of the world: round up, give the waiter an extra 5/10/20 note or some coins if the service was especially good
In japan and some other exceptions: dont tip at all

I know waitresses at semi-upscale, busy restaurants in my city who make about 65k a year between their wage and tips. Hot girls who bartend make closer to six figures though they have to dress almost like strippers. They walk around with such fat rolls of bills in their purses it’s crazy. Too bad it all gets spent on coke and booze and beauty products.

Based retard

You spend more on the tip than the cost of your meal?

The 20% thing gets me. Why do I tip more when I order more expensive items? You are doing the exact same job! It should be a flat rate that goes up based on the number of guests and how long you’re there.

>Take a look at countries that don't have tipping there are fuck all food choices for most first world countries that are not fast food
>t. never traveled

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Do they have to split the tip with the cooks?

Do you mean round up from 20%?

There are waiters that claim they fuck with your food if they know you didn't give them enough of a tip from a previous time

What's the fucking point? Just raise the price of the food.
Is it a demoralization thing like making the wagies in walshart sing?

are you retarded?

>the waiters are happy about that since it isn't taxed
Where are you getting this from?

everytime i step into this thread, i thank god/the universe/whatever that i am not american. I take muslims invaders any day over this mentality.

Getting rid of tipping would cut into profits, which would then increase the price of food.

You dont waste a single second thinking about tips, if the service was good but not exceptionally good you pay 50 and say keep the change, doesnt matter if it's 44.70 or 47.50

You said your food cost 44.70 and you tip 50. 50>44.7

What the fuck are you talking about have you ever been to Europe

>never been somewhere nice
feel bad for you retard

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well it's not like America don't have muslim invaders

>you should only tip for good service.

but this is their job

No. I didn't say that. I said I GIVE 50, meaning the price of the food plus the tip.

>pic
insanely hot

you don't.

Everything remains the same, and people can still tip which makes waiters better off. Normal salary plus a few bucks here and there.

Why do bartenders feel entitled to tips? You're literally just pouring an ounce of liquid into a glass.

Back in 2014 I was working at a restaurant in KY.
>$2.75 minimum wage for servers
>Very few laws regulating breaks (we were often required to work 10 hours consecutively)
>Management not legally required to compensate us if we earned under minimum wage
>Majority of tips were declared and taxed
>Taxes came out of our paycheck
>We received 1 paycheck per month
>Never saw anyone get a check over $80
>My all-time lowest monthly paycheck was $1.77

Laws vary state-by-state. In California, servers are paid $11/hr. In a lot of the South/Midwest, it’s under $5/hr. In a lot of places, servers really do survive off tips. Yes, Mr. Pink is right; the government should do something. And yes, restaurants should pay their employees more. But until they do, you should consider tipping an inherent cost of dining out.

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Why should we subsidize poor career choices?

>But until they do, you should consider tipping an inherent cost of dining out.
That's not how you solve problems.

''if you only knew how bad things really are'' is probably one of the worst memes to come of this shitshow of the site

It’s often not a “career choice.” It’s one of the few jobs that can carry an unskilled laborer through college, thanks to the flexible hours and tips.

The solution is for the restaurant to compensate properly. Which involves raising food prices. Either way, you’re paying roughly the same. Not-tipping doesn’t solve any problem. It just makes you a Jew.

>what about fast food joints? They don't get tips.
They also get paid at least minimum wage.

What people don't realize is that if tipping was indeed made mandatory, they'd end up paying the same if not more money and it would just be added as a flat service charge that you can't avoid paying or pricing up every item on the menu. Tipping at least gives you the option of stiffing a waiter that was untimely, impolite, or otherwise incompetent. It's just that some people take the fact that it's not strictly mandatory way too seriously and end up playing word games or overthinking shit like Mr. Pink up there.

>Why should we subsidize poor career choices?

Having a job in this economy is never a poor choice.

But you aren't actually interested in solving the problem. You just want everyone else to subsidize your dining choices.

>The solution is for the restaurant to compensate properly.
and as long as people tip that's never gonna happen.

>It’s one of the few jobs that can carry an unskilled laborer through college, thanks to the flexible hours and tips.

Sounds like a trade off you willingly made

>Take a look at countries that don't have tipping there are fuck all food choices for most first world countries that are not fast food
This is absolutely not true

>You just want everyone else to subsidize your dining choices.
It's not my "job" to pay the restaurants employees.

>being this naive

Irrelevant. You're pretending to be principled when all you're actually doing is leeching off everyone else.

This might be one of the most civil tipping threads I've ever read.

so its the restaurants fault for not paying the waiters?

why not go after restaurants then?

That's not my problem. You chose to pay more than you needed to.

It is if you're arguing people should be problem solving when really you're just being a fag.

The truth is that waiters in America must suffer, starve or die of malnutrition until the government outlaws employers not paying waiters minimum wage. Other countries have excellent service without tipping. America works off a broken and exploitative system.

How the fuck are you going to do that?

Lmao yes it is. You pay for the employees’ wage whenever you buy any product, ever. The only difference with restaurants is you pay the employee directly based on how competently he or she performs.

Yes, it was. And it continues to be for countless Americans because most people adhere to social norms and expectations.

>Jews make ordinary American plebeians pay their wages for them. That's basically what tipping is

They love your money.

>Lmao yes it is. You pay for the employees’ wage whenever you buy any product, ever.
not with tips I don't.

>How the fuck are you going to do that?
i dont know, protest that they're capitalist pigs?

i dont know why its the customers fault when it should be the employers who should paying them

>until the government outlaws employers not paying waiters minimum wage
It's already outlawed. It's just unscrupulous restaurants that have an interest in making sure their employees are unaware of this.

Further, plenty of cities have mandated that servers be included in minimum wage hikes. It's usually restaurant associations arguing for exceptions. If you were actually in favor of meaningful change, you'd be advocating for these changes, not playing armchair policy maker, advocating that we fuck people over until somebody gives a shit.

The depths of mutt delusions just seem to have absolutely no bottom.
Imagine thinking that me giving free money to a retard that brings my food from kitchen to my table in any way influences the quality of cuisine.

well tips aren't taxed here so I assumed it was the case in the US

All that written out and I have yet to see as to why I as a guest should compensate your shit life decisions.

why would you even work if you made $80 a month? You'd make more by begging two days per week.

Lol why should I care enough beyond armchairing and btfoing Stockholm syndrome cucks arguing for tipping? And you said it yourself, why can't we fuck over people until they give a shit? Is there any other way the world works?

I never said you did. Read the entire post, retard.

Protesting does nothing. And it’s the customer’s fault because tipping a well-known part of American culture. You go to a restaurant knowing that you’re expected to tip. It’s not a surprise. It just comes with the territory. If you don’t want to tip, you should get take-out or stay home.

I'll ask again - WHAT PART OF YOUR SHIT CHOICES SHOULD I GIVE A SHIT ABOUT AS A GUEST?

Learn basic reading comprehension.

All income must be reported. If you were motivated you could try getting around that with cash tips. But given that employers are required to make up the difference if an employee brings home less than minimum, they are highly interested in making sure all tips are recorded. Even then, the vast majority of the public just uses cards for payment anyways, which doesn't allow any under-the-table tricks.

how about I don't tip because I don't have to.

Are you actually this stupid? I literally just explained to you that other ways have worked. That's precisely why your "just make everything super shitty until things magically fix themselves" is so bafflingly retarded.

>give me free money because I walked seven feet with a plate waaaaah
>i-it is you who is leech
>Amerimutt social norm is to be an entitled beggar

This question has already been answered numerous times by numerous different posts. If you’re incapable or unwilling to look from a different perspective, stop asking questions. If you’re wondering why anyone would follow social norms, or treat another person with common courtesy/decency, ask Yea Forums. They love philosophy over there.

Then that’s fine. Just accept that it makes you a leech. Accept that it makes you a cunt. Accept that, in the eyes of most people, you’re the bad guy in this scenario.

I remember being chased in the street by a fucking obese-slutty waitress in Jackson, Mississippi, because I had left the bar without tipping her.

>Just accept that it makes you a leech.
It really doesn't. There's just no scenario where you're going to make me feel bad for you.

>common courtesy/decency
I will now go to our company's customers when they come to collect their order of CNC machines and I will stare at them until they will give me extra money from their own wallets because I believe my employer doesn't pay me enough.
If they don't, I will fuck with their machines, because they are assholes.

There's no getting through to these people. They've fundamentally rejected the social compact that has been the support structure of every stable, functional western nation. It's the antisocial leftist circle jerk that rewards them for thinking they are special or clever for realizing that you can not follow established social norms. They've adopted the jewish position that the rules are only for everyone else.

stay mad

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It's called minimum wage for a reason, the fact you greedy burgers have found a loophole to pay your workers less than it is actually astounding, you're worse than most third world countries.

Do the people that actually prepare the meals get part of the tips too or is it just the servers?

I agree. If I want a tip I have to work overtime . My friends who work at bars make 15 an hour and like 800 in tips on the weekend. They get pissed when I don't tip other bar tenders even though all they do is pour a beer. If I like the guy maybe il tip but when I'm in a dive and place smells like shit I ain't tipping for this.

>antisocial leftist circle jerk
>screams an entitled berniebro who wants free shit from unrelated people because xhe is too incompetent to negotiate wages with a guy they signed a consensual contract with

Nice try komrade.

>Why do bartenders feel entitled to tips?
Same reasons server do. The difference is that they are usually paid minimum wage (plus tips) and they are actually making something instead of just running shit and putting shit into a computer.

No, just the scum that brings it to your table. Can't wait for automatization to phase them out.

>libertarian thinks he isn't a leftist
>Just throw away all your traditions, bro

I once went to a breakfast place and bought 7$ plate of eggs bacon toast sausages and some other stuff and it was great and I was gonna give them a couple bucks but when I paid with a 20 they handed me back 5. Fuck those entitled waitresses il tip you when I tip you. Asked for my 5 back and never went back.

>they are actually making something
>pouring booze into the glasses is making something
Holy shit.

This is a lie

>our tradition is getting fucked in the ass

>mutt tradition is being good for nothing entitled faggot who redistributes his shit choices onto others
Surprisingly accurate.

All traditions are obligations. You'd understand this if you weren't just looking for excuses to mooch off of your betters.

No, you just said restaurant associations are slimy things that fight back against fair pay or choose to break the law. At no point did you refute making waiters suffer being ineffective.

>jewish restaurant owners pay their employees 25% of minimum wage
>retarded americans think they should take it upon themselves to pay the other 75%
you are getting jewed, idiot. if nobody tipped, the government would make it so servers have to make at least the minimum wage instead of a special "servers wage" or whatever stupid rule you have

>plenty of cities have mandated that servers be included in minimum wage hikes
Try to keep up, kiddo. We don't need to crash the food service industry before positive change is possible.

>All traditions are obligations.
like cutting your dick.

>trying to turn a case of Stockholm into moral superiority

the rest of the world laughs at you

And you said restaurants act illegally by not paying minimum wage and keeping that fact from their employers while restaurant associations argue for exemptions.

Ergo

Still no cohesive argument against crashing the food industry with no survivors being ineffective.

>give me free money you moocher
Do you even hear yourself?

If you keep tipping, nothing will change... because you're tipping, so why bother changing anything? You're actually a dumb person.

>a high trust society with strong traditions is just stockholm syndrome in action
And people wonder why the west is collapsing.

Never tipped a waitress.
t. virgin

>being exploited is a strong tradition in the USA
checks out

How are you able to pay someone less than minimum wage? How is that legal?

Amerimuttrica where everyone is some flavor of American with interest groups kicking for their own team is by no stretch of imagination a high trust society, leech.

>And you said restaurants act illegally by not paying minimum wage
Yes
>restaurant associations argue for exemptions
Yes.

What are you having trouble with? Neither of these things have anything to do with what you're arguing. I've already explained to you that positive change has already taken without needing to crash the industry. Yet you still hide behind this notion that your miserliness is actually a strategy to effect this change.

How fucking slow are you people? Change has already occurred with zero change in American's tipping habits preempting that change. As a result of this change many of the restaurants in these towns that have demanded restaurants pay a full wage no longer expect tipping and, in fact, advise against it. Why pretend you have actual opinions on this subject when it's clear you haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about?

>trying to constantly prove my point
>tipping anywhere related to strong civic virtues

A high trust society would have ripped out the con artists holding a livable wage for waiters at hostage point.

You sad retard.

There's no exploitation. Tips are bakes into the cost of service. By not tipping you are the one engaging in exploitation. You are exploiting the fact that your better peers will pick up the share of the cost that you've opted out of. You're a welfare queen, nothing more.

That's the point, retard. It was a high trust society with strong traditions and enforced social norms. Your petty refusal to abide by the social compact in regards to tipping is just one more example of the fractures growing in this country,

if an industry needs to tips to keep from "crashing" it deserves to crash and also fucking burn lmao

>miserliness
>better tip in the places that still tip if you don't want to be miserly!!!!

Lmao absolutely hopeless you are, this is how Hitler took over, there can be no other explanation of how one person can be so defensive of a horrible exploitative system even as they pretend to fight against it

>what is Italy or France or Spain
Retard.
Of course he was right DUH.
Who cares.

less applebees and fucking outback steakhouses maybe you industrial cock inhaling braindead idiot

It's objective fact that non tippers are leftist roasties.

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>That's the point, retard. It was a high trust society with strong traditions and enforced social norms. Your petty refusal to abide by the social compact in regards to not struggling as the temple priests cut out your heart while you were still alive for sacrifice is just one more example of the fractures growing in this country,

Lol

Because tips are taxable income that counts into your overall income.So if you are paid andollar but you manage to reach minimum wage via the tips, your employer doesn't have to pay you a minimum.
The guy waffling about traditions here is a blithering retard that believes being fucked in the ass is moral thing to do.

>if an industry needs to bring in revenue greater than its costs then it deserves to crash
You retarded, son?

>northeastern republicans are the best tippers
so basically nobody then

>acting is just playing pretend in front of a camera
>directing is just telling people what to do in front of a camera
I can over generalize as well. I'm not even in favor of tipping, I was just implying bartenders are more deserving of tip than servers in the very least. Chefs are the truly underpaid staff compared to former two as far as fine dining is concerned.

>not just factoring that cost into the price of your service and instead relying on random acts of kindness and getting triggered when people aren't kind enough to you
I'm not retarded, but America sure is.

Separate categories, retard.

>copy cinema from Europe
>create cookiecutter commercial products
>copy communism/socialism from Europe
>it's only extremist sovietic shit, not democratic
>copy tipping from Europe
>use it as an excuse to pay workers less and force people to tip even if they never signed any contract
Are Americans retarded?

If your business can't turn a profit without tips, it really isn't an effective business strategy.

>random acts of kindness
It isn't random. Everyone else tips. You've explicitly decided not to because you're an entitled piece of shit.

Americans are profound when to comes service. I live inCambridge, UK, and they’re the best people to serve. They’re the most polite and happy, often asking about your day, etc.

This.

>most southerners are republicans
>southerners are the worst tippers
>republicans are the best tippers
>creditcards.com
>n=1002
It's a fucking stupid, oxymoronic, reddit tier infographic and you're a mouthbreathing imbecile.

>assblasted waiter calling out others for being entitled

You have no idea how much fun you've given anons here by letting us marvel at your stupidity.

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>You've explicitly decided not to because you're an entitled piece of shit.
make it a law or fuck off

>this meal costs $20
>jk it's actually $24 and if you don't pay that unlisted $4 youre an entitled asshole
>we could have just charged $24 but everything in america is designed to be counter intuitive, awful and irritating so fuck you
what a stupid country lmao

a truly embarrassing post

>math is hard
European education everyone.

not an argument

you don't get to play smart when you support tipping you triple layered faggot

I stopped eating out every week and started cooking more. Lost weight and now have almost 100 extra bucks a month. We used to go out and pretty much just get drinks and appetizers and it is fucking retarded that we have to tip for some fries and beers also the local kinoplex started serving beer.

Basadu retardo

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Holy Hells, I love tipping threads.

It always brings out the impotent little wageslaves who think they have an ounce of power to declare how things should and should not be. They don't.

If you are so sorely lacking in skills that you rely upon begging to survive, your stance at the negotiation table is gonna be a weak one. Learn a marketable skill and stop being a restaurant panhandler.

>t. roastie cunt

Most southerners are niggers and hick retards. The former are certainly not republicans. The latter can't afford to eat out anyways.

If everyone tips they should just factor it into the price like literally every single other country on the planet Earth that isn't a third world shit hole filled with monkeys who will kiss your feet for a 1 USD bill.

>math is hard
>no it isn't
>w-wa-waah n-not an arg-g-gument

Americans, ladies and gentlemen

What was the point of this post

>It isn't random
>some people tip
>some people don't tip at all
>some people tip less
>some people tip more
>a 200 dollar meal might come with a tip of 40 dollars, might come with 30, might come with 60 or 100
>a 40 dollar meal might come with a tip of 8 dollars, 6 dollars, or 10 dollars
>for the same service
its the definition of random

So let me understand this correctly.
You request a check after your mea, you then acquire said check, pay for said check and add some tip depending on the quality of the service and then the waiter/waitress records your tip in order to have it then taxed?
Are Americans really that dense?

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>t. Cleetus Woodpecker who has never been outside of Mobile, Alabama

That wasn't the argument, you're mischaracterizing it and diminishing it (this means strawmanning, smart guy) because you have no counterpoints and feel stupid. Here's your last (You)

Literally any reasonable person tips roughly 15 percent. Slight fluctuations from that baseline up or down are statistically irrelevant. In the aggregate, it's consistent and predictable. Only when you start introducing a sizable number of defectors do you begin to see problems.

>sweet, another day of tipping big, just a matter of time before they all call me for coitus
Spending money to be a white knight, Holy fucking shit.

>That wasn't the argument
It literally was. You were bitching because the restaurant didn't do the math for you.

if you know how much people tip and you know that slight fluctuations are statistically irrelevant, do you know what the best way to solve the problem of people not tipping is? charge an extra 15% and have a no tipping policy. magic.

I tip when I'm in America, because they don't make shit, and if I have money to fucking travel and eat out, I can spend another ten dollars on tip.
But otherwise he's 100% correct.

Goddamn i thought the ameritips being brainlets was a meme. Stop posting.

holy shit you're retarded
that's literally not what he argued for

Ameriposers as always with that inferiority complex

Literally no one disagrees with this. But until this is enacted, you're still a piece of shit for expecting all the other tipping customers to make up the difference.

Reminder that posts like these are part of a large psyops aimed at making people feel bad for servers to perpetuate tipping culture, servers don't want a regular wage because most of them get paid far far more than you think, getting 60k a year for simple, non-intensive work that isn't physically demanding.

and only cityslickers will disagree

just don’t eat at table service places, ya tightwads

Until you stop tipping, it won't be enacted. There is no incentive. Retard.

It literally is. I can understand we have a lot of you ESLfags running around in this thread, but you should really get a stronger grasp on the language before inserting yourself into an argument.

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>please spoonfeed everything to me, I am autistic
itll all be okay little guy

Already addressed and proved incorrect, retard.

it had nothing to do with math but the fact that if you want more money, you should charge more.

nope lol

You quoted the wrong post. I was responding to the retard who needed the restaurant to spoonfeed him the math.

no I definitely quoted the right post, autismo

you know what the worst part is? people actually defend this.

Servers don't want to be paid standard minimum wage though, why are so many of you posting as though they are victims? They earn so much more from tipping its insane.

>so many of you
It's literally one waiter having a fit lmao

Holy shit, the autism. Most people are able to intuitively understand expected social customs. They don't need to be guided by the hand every time they leave the house.

>Amerishart education

Yikes.

Amerisharts in the wild.

Then it seems you're still suffering from translation issues.

Customs change. People are sick of tipping. If they want that money they should charge for it. You're freaking the fuck out because autists curl up in fear and shriek at the slightest possibility of anything in their bubble ever changing.

>Be at the mercy of a guy who will throw you away the moment you are old.

Only a dumb retard could buy this. But then again, women are retarded.

>most of them
A small minority, you mean. This is trivial. The majority of servers work in shitty dive bars and diners. They likely aren't pulling in enough customers to make much even if they are being tipped well.

I speak the Queen's English lad, you're just a buffoon.

BASED Mr Pink..
the entitlement of American servers is astonishing..
NO .. you shouldn't be able to make a good living off a job that someone with down syndrome could do ... fuck off and get a real job .

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stop arguing for customs because we all know it's just about the fucking money

>leeching off of paying customers means you're making meaningful changes
wew

>t. waiter
fuck off and get a real job you whiny little cunt holy fuck

>tipping your barber and housekeeper
what the fuck am I reading?

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>i would rather have muslims (which i do) than be intellectually consistent about tipping as a predatory business practice that operates on social shame and allows employers to not pay employees

>>We received 1 paycheck per month
>>Never saw anyone get a check over $80
>>My all-time lowest monthly paycheck was $1.77
What?

in what way is not tipping leeching off of other customers? are you suggesting they have to tip more? thats incorrect.

This is either bait or someone who doesnt own a passport.

>The working class can't afford to eat out in most countries but can in america, funny how that works.

Because in Europe restaurant is actually an elite, high-cuisine endeavour while in USA every inbred retard can open a restaurant where he will service burgers or shitty "alabama speshul" dogshit on bread while calling it pizzas.

>why can't the restaurant just set the price to 24?
>why can't you just do some basic math?
>it's tooooo haaaaarrrdd
Remedial English and remedial math. You're a real all star, kid.

>you should consider tipping an inherent cost of dining out.
no i shouldn't, and i don't. you should get a real job.

>muh bloomin onions
kek can you believe these shits?

t. never been to Europe

>I want more money

Lmao, its rare if a place do that

>if we get rid of tipping then food prices go up

This argument is the most retarded of them all. Americans truly can't into math.

lmao you are such a faggot desu

Waiters are taxed based on their sales. If you tip small on a big ticket, that waiter has actually lost money on you.

Why is he drinking a shitty Peroni?

fucking americans I swear...

scenario A
>you have to pay $24

scenario B
>you have to pay $20

pick the one you prefer

>in what way is shoplifting leeching off of other customers? Are you suggesting they have to shop more?

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You don't have to pay anything if simple math is such a chore for you. Just ask mommy to make you some tendies at home.

It's done like that in Europe, but in America? Hell no! That's why many backdoor staff (chefs etc.) go to front - they earn WAY more.

Source: Uncle is former cook.

>in Europe restaurant is actually an elite, high-cuisine endeavour
Eh, not really. There's all kinds of restaurants here, from gourmet to low tier. Everyone loves to eat out.

>he doesn't have an argument

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shoplifting affects the business, not other customers. not tipping affects the business, not other customers. simple as

>NOOOOOOO MUH FAST FOOD

I think it's pretty much the only profession (aside from hotel cleaners) where this is not only allowed, but also considered normal.

He's just being incredibly dishonest. Base pay from restaurant is almost non-existant because you are supposed to rely on tips. Notice that he didn't mention the 4000 dollarydoos he made on tips that month.

>loss doesn't affect pricing
How's high school going, buddy?

There is no argument. You objectively can't handle basic arithmetic.

Lolno. Chefs earn a fucking ton, retard. Of course they work like 12 hours a day minimum and need to do coke to keep this lifestyle so there's that. They don't need any fucking tips.
Source I worked in a kitchen in Italy.

if the loss of tips affects pricing and the loss or receipt of tips is unreliable, just get rid of tips. when will they finally get rid of tips? when enough people stop tipping and they realize the party is over. simple as.

if you want more money charge me for it
otherwise fuck off

The part where he spits into your food, you entitled faggot.

Yeah but how's paying someone 80 bucks for a month's worth of work legal? Isn't the US supposed to be First World?

I think he's the one who said cops aren't real people, so it doesn't matter if they die. When I was young I thought he was an edgelord, but now that I'm much older I realize he was right.

>Italy
chefs in america make like 12.50 an hour dude. maybe thats a lot in italy idk

so terrorism?

Sit in restaurants are gonna go the way of blockbuster zoomers already don't eat out and after actual boomers start to die off then the kikes who run these places are gonna have to adapt or die.

>It's the antisocial leftist circle jerk

Leftist? It's rightoid as fuck. One of the most definite example of rightoid self-jerk if you ask me personally.

>I am successful, blablabla, fuck those plebs, blabla poor career choices and other cuckservative buzzwords.

Keep telling yourself that self-absorbed preaching cuckservatives and randroids are "leftist", be a good goy.

Again, autism. Most people are capable of understanding and adhering to basic social standards.

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>being good for nothing entitled faggot

You've just described libertarian parasites. There is no leech more brazen and disgusting than "muh rugged individual" lolbertarian.

>live in Japan
>go to restaurant
>eat delicious meal
>pay for delicious meal
>staff all say thank you as I leave

This is how it's supposed to be

>tipping is a basic social standard like holding the door open or saying please and thank you
boy jews have really done a number on america huh

fuck your retarded social standards

>wasting money is a social standard

Same in NZ. Minimum wage is $17.70 per hour (11.70 USD) and so waiters start off on that wage. Nobody tips and tips from foreigners (Americans) are generally refused as a policy. Nobody complains. The industry hasn't "crashed". Amazing.

>leave a couple yen on table whilst leaving
>entire restaurant hiroshima's in anger over shameful dispray of gratuity

>Northeastern republicans

Yeah, yeah, the most entitled and "I want to talk to your manager" kind of folks are the ones that tip the most.

Let me guess, thiese statistics were done by surveying, right?

>cheap taboo-violating miser
>it's everyone else who are the jews
You've gone full ((((them)))) and you don't even know it.

>The industry hasn't "crashed"
No, shit. Your waiters are being paid double that of most American servers, which is no doubt reflected in the pricing.

It's easy for a chef to work in the summer season alone and make like €50K. And consider that most of it is off the book cause legally they can't even work more than 10 hours per day or something.

a couple yen is like 1 cent so they would probably just throw it in the trash

>suddenly polls aren't good enough for the leftist shill
Her turn, right?

Oh shit, it WAS done by surveying. Reminds me of the anecdote.

>An average dick size in Kongo is 13 inches
>An average dick size in Rwanda is 6 inches.
>What's the difference? In Rwanda, they were measured, in Kongo, they were surveyed.

((((((((((((((((((you)))))))))))))))))))))

>It's her turn

An average american doesn't have enough brain capacity to think outside "Clinton-Trump" dichotomy?
Or republisharts never virtue signal?

>Leftist shill

Your cuck of a father, faggot.

Step 1: Give all waiters minimum wage
Step 2: Disallow (or at least don't expect) tips
Step 3: Raise prices by 15%
Step 4: Everything is better for everyone.

My favourite Chinese restaurant sells mains for $12, less than 8 USD. The steakhouse next to my flat can feed my girlfriend and I for about $70, or just over 45 USD. No tips required and everyone is paid a fair wage.

infographics can say whatever they want to, you can formulate questions to get you desired outcome... also a 1000 people is way too small of a sample to get any reliable data.

It was done by some dumb website nobody has ever heard of with a sample size of 1000 people. It's irrelevant.

Stop speaking to american refugee from /r/The_Donald with your liberal soviet commie things like science, maths and statistics.

>outlawing tipping
What you forget is that even with minimum wages in Europe, we still tip in most places. Waiters actually make a decent amount of money depending on where they work. Most just put it all in a big pot and distribute it by the end of the day so the dishwashers also get their share

haha

you actually can't fucking read

This basically.

>be strayan
>restaurants fucking everywhere, from all cultures
>no tips expected, staff give good service regardless
>prices as per menu
>thanked for patronage as I leave

How the fuck did America fall so far, it's such a carefree and pleasant experience in Australia

fuck waiters

Europe tips but it is not a major meltdown if you don't leave one, you are just a bit of a twat.

if I'm on a date with a girl i make a point of not tipping and i explicitly tell the wait staff that i wont be tipping because its for cucks. power move. i go back the next day after a night of wild sex to tip though, usually about 12.5%

Because if they don't make enough from tips, the employer has to pay them the remainder to make sure it adds up to minimum wage

How about being a nurse?
People are living longer and longer.

Nurses cry loudest about not being paid enough even though they usually make above national average

you don't get away with it, at least not for long. in US culture not tipping is considered an insult. No one agrees with it but if you don't tip the staff will purposefully mistreat you or throw sarcastic remarks at you.
>just report them to corporate
not worth the time and I'm not that spiteful.

americans shouldn't talk about something else than baseball, handegg, circoncision and cuckoldry

what is wrong with burgerland, seriously tho why do they make these kinds of posts, is it the chemicals in their water?

yeah they put all kinds of shit in the water over there like estrogen and shit

based german piss&poop fetishist

>Nurses cry loudest about not being paid enough even though they usually make above national average. Expect when you account for the hours they put in which are abominable, and for the fact that their training and schooling is expensive and not offering a superb ROI, meaning fewer nurses are trained and the whole of society suffers for it. Not to mention the stress and work conditions being so bad that no civilized society should remain unashamed when seeing how they treat the people that care for our elderly when we are too lazy to do so ourselves.
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