What was the point of this gigantic wall that defends some barren rocks behind it?

thats the pleb field for all the farmers and such to hide when the orc raids get too intense. all the nobles and certain artisans stay inside the keep

It is a fucking dam.

use your brain for a second. if the walls were just a circle/square around the main shit then they would be surrounded. don't give your enemy free position to begin with let them fight and die for it.

with the money they spent on that wall they could have dug a moat

Was the suicide bomber in the book?

except it just forces you to defend a much larger area

just go with it bro.. it's just a vidya

Why didn't the orcs just catapult explosives at Helm's Deep?

No, it causes your enemy to spread themselves more thin while all you need to do is put men on that wall. Youd want to have as many archers as possible firing down on an assembled army

then they lose defenders advantage from that side of the wall and just benefits the attacking side. there's a reason they are backed up agaisnt a mountain because the only place to attack is from the front. if you mean a moat surrounding the whole thing then its impossible because they have the mountains behind them. also moats surrounding the whole castle/arra is pretty bad because you just get starved out like many times in history.

OP's idiocy aside I'd really like to visit a real life Helm's Deep

LOTR doesn't have money.

Well, you won't. Ever.

>Just climb a mountain

Literally a brainlet

So much autism ITT wow

They had a poor tax policy that year

spreading your troops thinner seems like it would benefit the attacking army that vastly outnumbers you

it was all Hackson idea

Tolkien didn't write Helms deep like that

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here is a drawing BY TOLKEIN himself of helms deep, and a thread explaining the wall.

its all pretty logically thought out, unlike the 32 dozen different depictions of King's Landing in Game of Thrones.

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Many are good climbers

Hildebrandt brothers are literally nostalgia magicians

that's just a drawing

Well it wouldn't, because you're not on an open battlefield, but on a wall, and you don't need a phalanx of dudes to dump boiling oil over the edge and whack ladders with hatchets.

>In the book it protected the entrance to the glittering caves where all the civilians were.

The problem is that in the film they moved the entrance to the caves into the keep. So it doesn't really make sense anymore.

God, that looks shit.

The wall guards the valley and caves beyond. The Hornburg was built by the Dunedain, not Rohan, but the Rohirrihim adopted it as their chief fortification in the Westfold. If huge numbers of people are taking refuge there, they won’t fit in the main keep (which wasn’t built to shelter that many people), so they’ll instead take shelter in the area beyond the deeping wall. Hence why they had to defend it rather than just abandon it and hold up in the main keep.

>Was the suicide bomber in the book?

As I remember it's not really explained in detail why the wall why blows up. It's just said that Saruman used some kind of craftiness. There is no uruk running with the Olympic torch.

It gives advantage of fire.

The films were better than the book.

>God, that looks shit.

post your globally praised genre defining fantasy world building sketches then FAGGOT

That Tolki fella should 'af stuck to writing. Painting watn his strong suit.

they should've built it farther back so they didn't have to make so much wall

>The films were better than the book.

In a couple ways, but the film also messed up Helm's Deep in a bunch of ways.

>replaced the Elves with the Dunédain rangers. Pissing on the theme of the Elves leaving Middle Earth. And it also meant that the Dunédain didn't appear in The Return of the King either.
>They filmed scenes of fuckin' Arwen fighting at Helm's Deep! But thankfully cut them.
>Eomer didn't get to fight beside Aragorn at Helm's Deep the whole time, like in the book.
>No hillmen or orcs
>no Gimli getting separated and everyone hoping that he made it into the caves

>>replaced the Elves with the Dunédain rangers.

Other way around.

>That Tolki fella should 'af stuck to writing. Painting watn his strong suit.

its a literal sketch from his sketch note book he drew to keep track of the locations he created to keep everything consistent. to this day no one has come close to his dedication to world building besides maybe george lucas, who outsourced most of his conceptual artwork.

But tactically makes much more sense.

The map shows that the deeping wall is much better covered by the nearby fortress than it is in the movie. Honestly, the whole fortress makes a lot more sense after seeing this picture.

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>they should've built it farther back so they didn't have to make so much wall

did u even read teh thread? the reason its built like that is to have a protected valley to survive long sieges, giving them land to farm and set up campsites for all the refugees. if they set it up further back, they wouldnt have enough room to grow food/tend livestock in prolonged sieges.

god i remember that book of maps. i spent so many hours staring at it whilst reading the stories, need to find it/repurchase it.

So Legolas can shield surf

>Tolkien draws like a 9 y/o.
>fiercely defend his creative genius
gg

you know what kind of property taxes you pay on a moat?

>Money
Rohans Tax policy was outstanding so that was no problem

there is no tax

What was Tolkien's take on the bonus situation?

the bonus situation in middle earth would be completely unacceptable

where do the eagles land if theres no helipad?