Is the Mind Flayer a metaphor for toxic masculinity?

Nah, women should just stop being whores.

Well...she's right.

Within the concept of the show though, Winona Ryder already knows hoe Cooper is on the inside and that he's coping with some shit and isn't great and expressing his real feelings. And it's not like she was the sanest, most well-balanced bachelorette either.

But yeah, women should stay away from dudes like Cooper irl.

How do we stem the flood of toxic femininity that is corroding our society?

I'm sure that's just a rumor, soimebody as clean and well-mannered as him would never do that.

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Totally. Upstanding citizen. Nothing weird at all.

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Yeah girls, go find a man that won't die for you

You probably think Jim Carrey cracks jokes and acts silly all the time when he's not working right

yea dude, i also heard he removed some ribs so he could suck his own dick
what a weirdo man.

That's just hypocrisy. We all know she's a raging feminist on the outside but deep inside she wants to be dominated like a little slut she is. Manson probaby fucked the shit out of that whore.

Jim Carrey is a mentally ill faggot.

I bet you’ve never had sex

agreed

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this

I blame her parents for her attention whoring. Her father should have taught her not to lose her head over silly things

Jesus christ lmao imagine dating manson anytime past 2003
Whore just wanted some of that sweet manson money

Are there any reports of these events? I want to investigate them further.

So are you

It looks like his face is falling off

Pieced together from some blind items and interviews posted around the time of Season 1 of West World

Goddamn brian sure did fuck a lot of famous whores didnt he

Shame that there isn't anything more substantial. Like a video

To be fair, Marilyn always seems really laid back and chill in interviews.

Why do these women act this way? Do they think men want to put up with so much shit and go through so much mental effort to be with them? They’re not attractive enough for that.

I guess there are simps out there who will put up with these opinionated bitches because otherwise they’d just act respectable and feminine like real women.

I just think about how exhausting it would be to be with a woman that complains so much about stupid shit.

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Keep in mind Hopper is always right.

>guy gets angry when a little kid calls him a piece of shit for trying to set rules
>guy gets angry when a woman humiliates him and then brushes it off
>guy gets angry when townspeople conspire to open a portal to end the world and puts his daughter in danger

Like, the only time Hopper goes to far is flying off the handle when he thinks Mike is fucking him over again.

>far right wing thinking show is too far left because lesbians and black girls
>far left wing thinking show is too far right because hopper is a dirty harry archetype

>I guess there are simps out there who will put up with these opinionated bitches
user, there is an endless supply of betas out there. All these anons bitching about women don't realize that it's men becoming weak which is what let this happen in the first place.

She has a point lads. They made hopper into a fucking idiot which is why I stopped watching early on in s3.

These.

How is he an idiot?

He's not kissing Winona's feet after she completely forgot about their dinner.

>person criticizes a character's actions
>interpret it as a chastisement of the show's writing

Autism?

He's not a full blown idiot. He was intelligent as the user pointed out but he stayed "normal" as they fucked up the characterization on everyone else. His character naturally lashes out which just doesn't fly in zoomer america. That was the dumb part. I won't ever go against anything he said becuase he is right. Mike is a cunt and corrupting el etc. He just went about it a terrible way which old hopper wouldnt do.

Let's be real. If it weren't for those three inches Mike would be deep inside El's pussy.

I kinda got the same vibe. I originally think they were intending him to be a funny metaphor for the Millie fandom but it was too creepy so they pivoted to it just being paternal protection.

>which old hopper wouldnt do.

Literally all of S2 is him mishandling his relationship with Eleven, user. Just as he does in S3, only in a different way. His character has always had issues expressing his emotions and in S3 he's actively trying to be better at it.

He was planning to in the beginning of S3 before Mike started being a real shit.

You’re right. It’s just annoying for those of us who don’t put up with this shit because you always get betas white knighting and gassing these hoes up over their stupid opinions. I tell them they’re saying stupid shit all the time and I’m the bad guy for it.

>a funny metaphor for the Millie fandom

Actually, its:
El = Finn
Mike = Jack
Hopper = Millie

>Extreme jealousy and violent rages are not flattering or sexy

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I sympathize user I do. I'm just using colloquial here. It is considered idiotic to come at people the way he did. His heart and brain were in the right place though.

Don’t worry guys, women only care about confidence and social status, it doesn’t matter how you behave, I don’t even know who they’re talking about

lmao the duffers arent Yea Forums shitposters user.

Don't confuse SJW with actual, real world women. Obviously it can go too far, but women like men who stand up for themselves and get jealous.

Time for cake and sodomy!

Based poster

What you said it is a bit of an oxymoron but what you were attempting to say is true. Women like men they feel they can play emotionally. The moment they detect you are TRULY uninterested they are out.

Speaking of toxic males, Billy had to have redeemed himself off screen, right?

Why is an adult watching a kid show?

No, it isn't. Jealousy is standing up for yourself.

No, fucking her mother is standing up for yourself

Who cares man, just give me a gf, all other women can hate whoever they want

>Jealousy is standing up for yourself

You are conflating all cases of combating negative feelings with standing up for yourself. Relationship 101: LEAVING THE BITCH is standing up for yourself is she aims to make you jealous.

>Don't confuse SJW with actual, real world women.
They all possess the very feminine strain of irrationality. There is no distinction, SJWs just take female thinking to its logical conclusion

big dick energy

/thread

It will always be this. People just don't want to accept it because most people have been betas at some point and have a hand in it.

The very act of jealousy and doing something about it is standing up for yourself. As opposed to just sitting back and letting it happen, acting like you deserve it.

Heavily depends on context and exactly how the man reacts. If you come off as insecure it doesn't matter what your reasons are.

Not if it's exactly what she wants you to do and is fabricating altercations. Truth is not predicated by feelings of righteousness.

hes talking about Trump?

>women have to be reminded that violent rages aren't sexy
Stay classy, ladies

Her narcissism is off the fucking charts.

>the mistake is the beta men enabling them
It's pretty funny to watch.

how did she feel while working with james woods?

youtube.com/watch?v=BtB-u7Zi2aM

she is right though. the guy is dumb as a rock, crazy jealous, threatens his daughter's boyfriend and tortures people

>women on the other hand are never anything less than smart, never jealous, rational and have never had a single sadistic thought ever!!!FACT!!!
you're in the wrong building bitch

>I don't have any arguments so I will falsely quote other people and try disprove that instead
Nice try Hopper.

Who else is destroying this country and the world fucking idiot

How many women do you think will take her advice not to date violent assholes?

Yes but on the whole your average woman in the street isn't a belligerent PC cunt like the "educated" middle class unemployed gender studies college student.

Sure they might be just as irrational but they're not malicious unlike the truly deluded that actively look to fight what they perceive as the patriarchy

if i liked s1 but not s2 should i watch s3?

The fuck do SJWs have to do with that? That screenshot is refuting Evan Rachel Wood

>calling him "brian"

You're like that fat fuck trenchcoat-clad tryhard everyone knew back in the day who thought he was cool because he knew Manson's real name. Were you that kid? Why haven't you grown out of it? Why are you namedropping on Yea Forums like anyone would give a shit?

Who hurt you?

He probably just said it to take away the mystique of the Manson character you sperg.

>[the writing on his chest]

HAAH HAAH

that’s hot

The very act of jealousy is pathological. Jealousy is unhealthy regardless of whether your gf is a complete saint or if she's a complete whore.

The fucking "mystique"? We're talking over 20 fucking years ago you loser.

Annoying fat bags like yourself never knowing when to shut the fuck up and that no one cares.

>TV shows can no longer depict borderline alcoholic anti-heroes because of "toxic masculinity"

The West deserves to be destroyed.

dilate

"Standing up for yourself" in a healthy way is getting the hell out of the relationship.

Jews?
Or do they fall under Trump's umbrella?

>'huhuhu dilate btw didya guise know twiggy's name is really geordie? huhuhu betcha dint know day i'm pretty awesome i know stuff"

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What ever would we do without rich, famous actors telling us what is or is not acceptable behavior. I wouldn't know a healthy relationship from a hole in the wall so thank God for Evan (man name) Rachel Wood

>fuck men like hopper for years
>get old and ready to settle down
>"btw boys dont be like hopper mmmk sweetie :)"

Toxic masculinity was an idea that originally somewhat defending men. It was pointing out how wrongfully men and their masculinity were demonized as being violent and monstrous. Now the term is being used to enforce the very idea it was mean to combat. Instead of attacking negative stereotypes of men, it's being used to reinforce it.

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Taking women seriously and letting them vote is literally causing the fall of the West

>loyal
>devoted
>traditionally masculine
>physically strong
>reasonably good looking
>will defend you from the predations of other men
Hop is husband material though

Women like ERW are a fucking joke, because they always imply that, 10-15-20 years after the fact of the alleged "MUH TOXIC" ex, that they're now wiser and smarter and more evolved, meanwhile there's really no way in hell said toxic ex could possibly have changed in all that time. This is ALWAYS the implication they make.

They're also so fucking narcissistic that they never own their part in the failed relationship. They just leave a trail of "toxic exes" without considering the possibility that maybe it's not the exes' fucking fault.

No these women want beta pushovers as husbands so they can control the house

NORMAL women want hopper. THOTS want a puppet with cash

>tfw no sadist gf

I think you have it backwards. Thots want roided up, head shaven, bouncer types. Normal women just want a normal guy who loves them

>Normal women just want a normal guy who loves them
lol

Women are mentally children. They often don't know what's good for them and can hardly grasp the notion that their actions can have negative repercussions.

>Normal women just want a normal guy who loves them
They want a chadly winner who for some reason chooses them. It's their #1 fantasy.

We really need to start locking these creatures up.

TERRY’D

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Chadly men have no personality and will cheat on you. Most people grow out of that fantasy as a preteen

Has everyone in Hollywood been Terry'd?

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>thots want joe rogan
i don’t think you know very much about thots or normal women user

Never date a chick like her. She is a textbook definition of a "victim".

>being this ass blasted over someone calling a tryhard musician by their legal name

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>Most people grow out of that fantasy as a preteen
LMFAO
Twilight and 50 shades are that and hugely popular among old women

Pizzagate was real imo

nigga looks like razorfist at first glance lmao

Only feminists

Imagine being this delusional.

>he hurt her

He hurt a lot of women I'd bet.

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>literal consenting sex slave to Marylin Manson
Yeah thanks for your opinion sweety.

That dyke is just mad the darkie has a better character than her in a series she was supposed to win all the awards for.

I mean, she is right for once. The guy was constantly drunk, barged into his daughter's room, threatened to kill her boyfriend, abused his power as a sheriff etc. The guy was constantly raging and yelling as well. Just because it had funny music doesn't mean he's not a horrible person to be around.

>never date a guy like this
Thanks Rachel, I will hold your advice dear!

>roasties so retarded they have to be told not to date a man who hits and yells at them
>they still do it anyways

No, she's not "right for once".

Who the fuck watches a show with the assumption that all the characters that they are going to see should only be personable people you should emulate in real life?

Hopper is literally a quintessential 50s archetypal American male anti-hero with a tragic flaw being borderline alcoholism. You know, how shows used to be written all the time.

>;^ /

what did he mean by this?

>He lost his daughter and was a raging alcoholic that sacrificed himself for everyone.
No shit dude. Thats his story arc. He wasnt capable of dating anyone.
>barging into his daughter's room
Yeah, because he suspected the little ugly dude to be making out with her. Believe it or not, but I wouldnt let my 15 year old kid fool around with his gf in their room behind closed doors. All in due time.

Dumb bitch.

Hopper did absolutely nothing wrong and was the only character that wasn't retarded in some way

Go back to bed, Brian.

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

>Literally saves the world
>He toxic >:(
I’m done

He did that in every other season, and no one has a problem with it until he starts dating someone. And I guess that's not saying she's wrong but what underlies that to me is when his "toxic masculine" behavior was useful for two seasons, no one had shit to say about it. Now that he's interested in a woman it's a problem even though his exact same behavior is a benefit the entire third season.

hopper never hit his gf

She's probably on to something but who reads Stranger Things 3 on that level anyways? It's such complete normieshit that it couldn't ever try to pass something over so bold as something offensive in even the mildest degree. So like literally why even bother

He probably fucked her from behind while stuffing cake in her mouth and making her squeal like a pig like in deliverance

Honestly his behaviour seemed more nonsensical to me this season. The forced "bickering" between him and Winona to make them appear as a married couple, sudden jealousy, him trying get her to go to dinner with him when her boyfriend died like 6 months ago.
Whether Evan Rachel Wood is right or not is irrelevant to me. I thought he was badly written this season

>Honestly his behaviour seemed more nonsensical to me this season. The forced "bickering" between him and Winona to make them appear as a married couple, sudden jealousy, him trying get her to go to dinner with him

I thought it was justified in the writing by her moving or thinking about moving. He was in a rush. I read it pretty clearly that what was going on between him and her was like his last chance to get/keep the girl he liked.

>What ever would we do without rich, famous actors telling us what is or is not acceptable behavior. I wouldn't know a healthy relationship from a hole in the wall so thank God for Evan (man name) Rachel Wood
This bitch doesnt get to fucking have a man name and yet still pretend to have a feminine middle name, just like a man named John Ashley Smith doesnt make it a womans name. It fucking pisses me off.

>skin whiter than white
Remember when this used to be a selling point in show business ?
Take me back bros ;_;

she was quite literally asking for it

Some one post the picture of him with Rose McGowan at that award show when shes wearing a see through dress or whatever

>Trump will start a massive war!
>Trump can't be trusted with nukes!
>REEEEEEE Orange man bad
Trump calls off an airstrike on Iran, stating that starting another war isn't worth the price of 1 drone and the lives of ~150 innocent people in iran
>Trump is weak and doesn't stand up for the nation!
>Trump should attack Iran, a nation that also has nukes!
>REEEEEEEEEE orange man bad
Leftists are actually retarded.

She'll claim that she was being subjugated and forced to wear that, yet if another woman wore it now it'd be empowering and courageous. Women are a fucking disaster

America is a nation descended from Biblical literalists, so they relate to fiction in much the same way. They hate characters that are mean because in real life they wouldn't like them.

Is Evan Rachel Wood a woman? Is Evan Rachel Wood regularly expressing far leftist views? Because those are the two primary trademarks of an sjw.

both answers are yes

Whores cant admit that they love the attention and objectification, if they do the facade of feminism that is very much in style now would collapse
Seriously though someone post the picture, I'm rangebanned and it gives me a boner

Probably hotter at 13

>his behavior is nonsensical but not the absolute deranged conspiratorial jumping to conclusions that Joyce had right from the start

The only reason Joyce didn't sound like a complete lunatic is because she had plot armor.

WHOA THERE BUDDY you cant say that on Yea Forums!

This one?

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Lucky him

Its fine, im licensed

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Oh I didn't say that. I thought Joyce was crazy too. And Nancy annoys the fuck out of me.

:^J

This one?

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Disagreeing with her means you abuse women.

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>airstrike on Iran
He didn't do a thing that no one else would have either.

> imma drown dis cute lil puppy
> naw shit nigga, i won't
> look errbuddy i saved a puppy!

Ugly cunt

Brave.

The character already went full retard in 2 when he was wandering around death tunnels alone despite knowing how dangerous the shit he was getting into was from experiences in the previous season.

The jews were named already, so... niggers?

I sometimes think that the entire world has gone to shit, but then realize that mentally ill people can vent online just as much as normal people can.

I wonder if she ever stopped to consider that not everything has to be about her

I find it interesting no one looks at this for what it really is: celebrities are not down to earth enough to realize that there are millions of idiots online that will argue just to argue, then they get offended when they get called names and view it as unfair. Also they are not down to earth enough to realize they are one of those idiots.

I would never date a psychotic woman either

You miss him kicking Russian ass in later episodes and proving that he knows how to handle an interrogation. Having character flaws isn’t feminist or anything.

BAsed

Niiiiiiiice thanks user, that milky skin is fine as french wine even though shes a stupid #metoo whore now

I actually didn't view it as feminist I just didn't like how they were handling the characterization all around. There was no need for mike to be such a little shit and part of El's whole development was she learned to appreciate hopper. It was just terrible writing.

Her recent nude leaks are pretty decent except for the coke-ravaged nose, her tits look lovely

>2000s ERW
>Beautiful fiery red hair
>2010s ERW
>shaved heas feminist cunt
WHY DID THIS HAPPEN

cuz shes got a- GREAT ASS

lmao of course she has nude leaks why I am not surprised
The #metoo sluts like her and Asia Argento (who coincidentally also directed a manson music video) are the biggest hypocrites on the planet. They'll fuck and they'll suck and they'll make millions off of the attention, but theyll get mad at you if you stop pretending they arent whores of the lowest degree
>inb4 have sex
I bet her nudes are pretty nice all things considered

>Trump calls off an airstrike on Iran, stating that starting another war isn't worth the price of 1 drone and the lives of ~150 innocent people in iran

Trump tore up the peace deal Obama signed with Iran, reinstated sanctions, appointed neocon psychos to his administration who constantly threaten war, and did everything he could to ramp up tensions between the two countries. Its a relief that he was smart enough to back down but his dumb schizophrenic ass is the reason why we're at the brink of war in the first place.

The strings create the illusion of cottage cheese ass, but upon closer inspection her skin looks very smooth and soft like a lily

She's got the sort of tits you'd enjoy burying your face in

Unironically Marxism.

>jealousy isnt good in a relationship
imagine dating someone you care so little about that you never get jealous over proper things to be jealous about

You sound pretty upset. Ready to lose again in 2020?:)

Critial theory specifically

She got fed a huge amount of feminist propaganda and they managed to convert her. Sadly, there's no known way to reverse it.

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Manson is rumored to be very well hung

you ready for trump to fondle bibi's balls for another 4 years

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...

Unfortunately yes
Jesus christ look what the jews did to her

youtu.be/tckjtbVzRLs
If this video is anything to go by I would inclined to agree with the rumors

Israel is a good goal for ethnostates.

oh, this dumb cunt again
literally no braincells

This. You have to show women respect, but with a firm hand.

Based

>we're at the brink of war in the first place.
what fucking reality do you live in
fucking rent-free, christ, you must be from Commiefornia