so what made it worse than the first two seasons?
STRANGER THINGS SEASON 3 DROPS BELOW 90% ON RT
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I have no idea how people can think the third season is worse than the second season. I looked back at reviews for season 2 and it's insane. Nearly everyone praised it. Season 2 was a shitty rehash of the first season without the charm. At least season 3 has new ideas
WE DID IT REDDIT
Why is season 2 highly rated
people only hate season 2 because of ep7 and that whole subplot - besides that it's pretty good
2s fine except episode 7. Hell the first 3 or 4 episodes (which is what the reviews would have been shown) with the Halloween stuff, Billy and Wills gradual possession is probably the best the show has ever been.
>moderately below 90%
>hurhurr Netflix BTFO the white race will rise again
Season three had a ton of plot holes, overall worse writing, the characters were annoying as fuck with their constant yelling, and they shoe horned the queer. Top that off with the cringiest scene ever with that never ending story song and it equates to a disaster. It’s so bad that it’s actually turning off some of the normalfags
>Dude 80s lmao
It is less that it is worse and more has to do with the fact that the fad has faded.
Stranger Things is no longer this perfect special show like Season one was. They gave Season 2 a pass because they were still in hype mode. And now the hype is slowly fading. The next season will probably get 82% on RT.
Stranger Things has outstayed it’s welcome and should just end.
>Start of Season 2
Monster is coming.
>End of Season 2
Monster is coming.
the whole Season 2 is entirely skippable.
it's never really bad, like some parts of s2; but it's also very rarely especially good as well
also, the boys and even hopper and joyce seem like they do fuck all to further the plot; it's basically just steve and dustin and their gang and eleven who does shit
and the amount of "sit down" moments from girls to men is just hilarious, fucking literally everything max does is acting like the boys are fucking retarded and eleven is some kind of ancient deity
also, of course steve's crush is a lesbian, kek
THEY KILLED OFF BILLY, THE BEST CHARACTER ON THE SHOW
he didn't deserve to die so early
>worse than 2
You should've learned to disregard RT by now.
He only turned into a character in S3. Max and Billy were a bag of nothing in the season they debuted.
>dialogue was cringy
>minutes of screentime wasted on awful """comedy"""
>felt the same, storywise, as the previous two seasons
>Russians don't have ANY security when the mall is closed, no cameras, etc
>Max does fuckall for the whole season
>Will does fuckall except act as "he's here" guy
>Lucas does fuckall except for half an episode where he provides a decent distraction for El to mindfuck Billy
>the entire Dustin/Suzie storyline should have been cut and just had Lucas' sister know Planck's constant, since she's a "nerd" too
>expectations subverted with Steve/Robin
>Billy "redeemed" in the last episode just to die
>villain who wants to invade our world/dimension and kill everybody decides to act like a horror movie villain and roar at/scare people instead of just killing people
>hurting one zombie seems to hurt all of them. pretty fucking weak
There's probably more but that's all I can think of right now. Basically, it's shit.
He was never a character.
>still an asshole with little characterization in episode 1
>killed in that episode
>just a pawn of the Mind Flayer for the next 7 episodes
>El looks at his memories
>"muh childhood abuse", which I already assumed given his personality
>sacrifices himself and dies to stall for a couple seconds
I don't understand why people are praising this show so damn much, It was just almost alright. I think the praise is simply coming from the people who funded it.
The one thing I was hoping for in S3 was a REMATCH between Billy and Steve. And those fucking writers were too pussy to deliver something that could've been exciting.
Also kinda off-topic, I was hoping ST in general would have some really eerie or creepy vibes like Resident Evil 2. You know, just to make the situation seem more dark and serious.
>Also kinda off-topic, I was hoping ST in general would have some really eerie or creepy vibes like Resident Evil 2. You know, just to make the situation seem more dark and serious.
I agree, but that would scare the soibois who are teh target audience.
You literally see a bunch of people gruesomely melt into a giant monster.
in this case they’re right
Lol, this thing is so bad I've struggled to watch more than 1.5 episodes so far. How the fuck does it still have anywhere near 90%?!
Normalfags and pleebit have shit taste
I wish I grew up in the 80s
Russian hate.
I haven't watched season 3, but I had got over the whole thing even by the end of season 2. I became too aware of the formula. Instead of a monster of the week format, it's a monster of the season format. I didn't out and out hate it, but once you know the formula like that, it becomes predictable. That's just my opinion.
The kids have grown. Pedos can no longer enjoy the show.
This needed a thread
Take a wild guess
At least it isn’t another little mermaid thread
It wasn't a bad season. But they made a lot of critical errors like cutting the tension with a stupid joke or product placement.
Also, no one got their titties out
The heart and soul of the first season is demoted into a side character and he butt of jokes
>at least season 3 has new ideas
What the absolute fuck are you on about? Season 3 had nothing whatsoever original or new to offer. It was a completely awful season with little to no real dialogue, boring and obnoxious focus on everyone’s relationships and sex lives (which wasn’t even shown), unfunny cheap “jokes” every 5 minutes within a serious conversation, and it was the same used trope from seasons one and two (big icky monsters) except without any of the mystery or intrigue, and there was also absolutely zero character development or memorable scenes.
S3 just felt off. More like walking dead to me. Really gory with human gore. Strange music track as well. Also they have gone so woke with everything. Maybe I was told high when I watched it but the feel wasnt the same as the first season.
I already miss it lads.
Just went through your post history
Love how you let Yea Forums influence your opinions.
Then you should hurry back to pleddit fat ass
I am with you. It was comfy kino at it's comfiest.
annoying 10 yr old diversity hire niglet who outsmarts the white characters
Why are pissbabies so easily triggered?
I too peruse le reddit
>DROPS BELOW 90% ON RT
>89%
kek, i mean, its true after all
It would have been less cliche if they’d made her straight and had them be friends.
They are all about this meme.
This show was never good.
It's just a normal series with heavy emphasis on nostalgia. All the tropes are played out in other series and movies. Sure, it can be entertaining, but its not a mindblowing series.
>ton of plot holes
like what?
Yes it's worse
the first 3 episodes are good but from the fourth episode onwards everything gets worse
A giant monster invades a city and destroys a shopping and no one notices?
Producers and writers are calling all us of idiots
Eleven is growing and her powers should evolve
It's boring and uninteresting to see.
i literally dont know anyone who watches stranger things
it's minimum 8/10 because of Robin
It was a huge letdown for me, its so bad we had to wait so much for this...
>Russians managed to invade SU soil and they even built a huge military complex underground, how??
>said Russians have no real security measures to protect their secret, they even broadcast their shit in the open...
>constant shouting and bickering between Joyce and Hop.
>no real plan for the Mind Flayer... I mean, it is proven to be intelligent, yet all it does is merging together humans and rats into a giant fleshgolem to kill El? I imagined something more exciting, like creating a biomechanical "gate" or a weapon or something...
>no new lore about the Upside Down
>Russian terminator guys walking with guns at the fair in front of everyone, yet no one notices shit
>Alexei died for stupid reasons, it was fucking lame especially for Murray, who otherwise is always secretive and timid...
>they worried that closing the gate would not be enough, yet they eventually do that and the plot is somehow resolved?
>Max and Billy were a bag of nothing in the season they debuted.
and max was even less in s3, fucking all she did was suck elevens clit and tell the boys to sit down
when I saw that weird mind-messing girl in S2, I thought maybe she'll be the new antagonist and the rest of the season was this battle between Eleven and the indian girl. But no, there had to be another gate closing arc because that's the only story the writers can rely on so they have to go back to that shit.
Season 3 is definitely better than season 2. Still mediocre and no where near the quality of the first season, but season 2 was not only a rehash but also nothing to offer on its own. At least season 3 has some fun with Steve at the Russian base. Season 2 was just a total mess with all of its plotlines, not one was good.
it was too 80s.
and most modern tv critics are too young to appreciate that.
I believe the episode and Kali's character had such a bad reception that there was no chance for her to return. Also, why would she? She was a rebel and a punk so not really a 'friend in need', and her power is very good but only works on humans I guess? So maybe against the Russians she would have been useful.
As for the plot, I would have expected some more lore from the UD. Like how come there are cars and buildings in there? When did the UD came to be? Has it always existed? Are there any more dimensions accessible?
>so what made it worse than the first two seasons?
The reviews are hardly bad, but both S2 and S3 are mostly just retreads of more of the same, and it's getting old. No one ever finds out about the increasingly obvious weird shit that's going on and the "durrhurr 80s" refs are less charming each time they do it. More about the trend's fading, there's no compelling overarching plot or even character arcs compelling enough to make up for lack of driving plot that makes it needed to have more than one season.
Might explain it. They grew out of the waifu phase and we now know too much about the actors and actresses to dislike them now.
But it is miles better than 2 and 1.
Based and redpilled.
>they worried that closing the gate would not be enough, yet they eventually do that and the plot is somehow resolved?
That pissed me off.
Its nature of men. If you make a t-rex suddenly vegetarian to break a cliche but used him before has a hungry deadly dinosaur, it destroy the inversion. If you dont have a good explanation for it or fail to show it afterwards why the tension was before you just will get a wtf from people because hints showed it differently.
That's it exactly. The entire season is just fighting the same monster but this time Russians did it.
More like the brap and sniff
>shoe horned the queer
But they didn't. It was mentioned once and never bout up again. Please kys.
He should have acted appropriate for the era and tried to cure her of gayness
At least they could have explained away shit via the science guy that the proximity of an open gate (thanks to the Russians) have somehow activated the dormant malign presence (mind flayer) trapped in our world. But this is actually a problem still remaining, as we cannot be sure that even burning of the monster remains will ensure its complete destruction.
Thats a good point. wasnt it rather 90s where it got to this level like its shown in the series?
It was just gaining steam in the 80s. But this is backwoods America, I'm surprised they treat the blacks like equals.
As much as Resident Evil is mostly known for everything that happens after the mansion incident and especially the full outbreak, I'd love for a Chernobyl-like series about the history of Umbrella and Raccoon City. When you get into everything like the dogwhistles of Umbrella being ex-Nazi scientists continuing the legacy of eugenics (iron cross in the logo, Ashfords and Weskers being "Aryan"), meddling in Africa, the lobbying and cover-ups, Irons being a corrupt psychopath, disappearances, the chaos between the mansion and Birkin incidents, Irons suppressing S.T.A.R.S., lead-up to the outbreak, and the fallout afterwards, etc., it could all make a great series. Problem is, the stink of "video game adaptation" (not to mention the movies) might scare away any reputable writers and financiers who could make it great, and fans would want to be pandered to with video gamey stuff too much. I have half a mind to think they should just name it Biohazard and not tell their shortlist where it comes from until their foot is in the door. "Reputable pharmaceutical corporation's dark history and secrets in the heart of middle America" is an amazing hook that might catch some real talent.
>Top that off with the cringiest scene ever with that never ending story song
It was supposed to be cringy. Are you autistic?
Gruesome is the death of the rats that explodes in agony
Slowly melting is hardly "gruesome"
To be fair episode 7 was so fucking bad it could have been considered a social experiment.
>and they shoe horned the queer.
Ah here we go, the real reason you're seething. Like clockwork.
So what was the secret russian radio message about? Why they were announcing their position? I watched the season 3 but can't remember answer to this and don't care enough to rewatch.
its the same derivative, boring, formulaic shit from the first season without the whole 'look, its eleven, how weird she is' thing, that was why the show was a hit.
> again a portal, again mysterious monsters, again evil goverment, a whole lot of fill in episodes, a bunch of 'remember that shit?'
only the most pedestrian and absolute bugmen pop funko collector retards are going to find this 'ok'.
> and the girl being a dyke from out of nowhere?
> the annoying nigger girl?
> the creep jew again asking people to fuck?
> the crew of 'evil' white gusy bullying nancy (drew)?
and winona ryder is fucking 47 and already looks like an old jewish lady, her character is the most annoying useless thing.
sad show, really.
oh: goverment/evil corp OPEN UP A PORTAL TO ANOTHER DIMENSION and them they go away becayse they close the doorway with cement. jesus christ, come the fuck on.
these characters are exposed to the most fucked up shit on two seasons and them theyre like all skeptical because the creators are just hacks.
>this will be a regular now
I am out, it was a nice ride
>Hopper
>Dead
Did reddit skip the credits?
Why closing the gate killed the blob monster?
This but unironically. We already had Dustin hooking up, Mike hooking up, Nigger I don't remember of hooking up and Hopper/Joyce bordering on it.
The last thing S3 needed was even more HURR EVERYONE PARTNER UP NOW
>At least season 3 has new ideas
It's the same shit for a third time, the fuck are you talking about.
Now is it better than 2, sure. That's not saying much though, and it's not exponentially better by any margin, 2 and 3 have a lot of the same problems, they are both flat as fuck seasons and propping up 3 just because it's better than the pile of shit that is 2 is dishonest.
That's the case with any single Netflix made thing.
>THE BEST CHARACTER ON THE SHOW
He was literally thrown into the S2 with Max with little to no explanation and he didn't do anything of note in that season. I don't get how there is a Billy fanbase, he's a good actor, and the character COULD have been something but they fucked it up big time. He's there to be 1 note and serve the plot when needed instead of organically joining the cast and integrating with the town.
Fuck the critics. Binging all of it locked in my room drinking Stoli was the cosiest and happiest I've been in a long while.
Gutted it's already over
God i wish she died from the mind flayer in the firsts episodes and Lucas/mike/will took her place. Instead we have a bunch of teenager drama and a retarded 10 yo "yaaas queen slay"
>so what made it worse than the first two seasons?
The first season had a strong nostalgia factor and it felt like a classic film from the 80s-90s. One of those films that was made for kids, but all ages can enjoy it. ET or something.
Season 3 feels like an episode of I Love the 80s on VH1, with a teen drama tacked on behind the product placement
The writers clearly hadn't planned for anything beyond the first season and threw the next two together. They're just boring and lack the genuine charm of the first.
go back to white girl twitter please, it would have been much better if steve just hooked up with a loser like robin since he already peaked in high school and has been obsessed with his former glory anyway. would have been a nice conclusion to his arc, but no, netflix needed their diversity check and yaaassss queens from the audience
>I don't get how there is a Billy fanbase
they are >30 years old roasties. like the ones in pool scene
Same. I am shocked that it isn't widely praised. The writing was terrific.
>>Russians managed to invade SU soil and they even built a huge military complex underground, how??
Starcourt Mall was the cover. It was entirely funded by the Russians, they bribed the mayor for permits or something i assume. I like that they use the same delivery guy for their secret complex as the rest of the mall's stores use for their deliveries.
I felt like I was watching an Austin Powers movie half the time
>muh retro setting
>muh generic bad guys
>impossibly huge “secret lair”
>Jaws Russian goon
They even had the same damn karts
The forced ‘girl power’ bullshit between Max and 11 was unecessary. They turned Max into a home wrecking bitch for the sake of muh feminism and most of the guys during this season are incompetent as fuck. There is so much character assassination this season because the writers are lazy hacks and think that adding modern social commentary is a good way to keep the audience interested.
>Terrific
Season 1 was very well written and paced, season 2 and 3 sure as fuck weren't.
>Nancy is boring and has nothing to do
>Jonathan is boring and has nothing to do
>Joyce and Hopper cringefest with very little tension anymore
>Forced teen romance shit even though these kids are like canonically 13
The Russian base at the mall was the only good thing this season and then they had to cuck Steve yet again at the end.
Hopper was the demegorgan?
I hate how they completely retconned the more interesting ritualistic possession used by the mind flayer in favor of face sucking that turns you into a slave. It felt so god damn generic along side the flesh monster instead of an incorporeal shadow hive mind.
I seriously don't understand why everyone loves this outside of Yea Forums.
I think this is the same old "let's milk this cash cow" syndrome. Author thought the show would last only 1 season, but now must try to keep up without much time to think (between pre-production and release) else the kids would grow up too much.
So, Season 1 was evil bad government experiment goes wrong.
Season 2 is experiment goes out of control, they can't close the gate and there's a wi-fi connection to the Will., but at the glorious ending 11 closes it.
Season 3 starts without a cliffhanger from the previous season, since the portal is closed. What the authors did, since the government already knew it was a bad thing? The communists. I enjoyed the explanation that they used Hawkins because the barrier there was thinner.
But the communists-are-using-a-demogorgon-as-bio-weapon justs makes everything more complicated.
Obviously the season 4 is when Will /11/Jonathan/Joyce returns to Hawkins on a trip, maybe with 11 getting hers powers back and trying to contact Hopper, just out find out he's alive.
>being mad a character doesn't have sex
Lol who cares. Steve was still pretty based this season and them 2 being high together was some of the best stuff from itl.
They were talking about an American in one of those holding cells.
The third season was too silly. Too much reddit humor. Too try-hard. Too self-aware.
But that’s a legit complaint though. You don’t see it as pandering or forced? Somehow being queer is a character trait that even needs to be made a point?
Like why the hell would russians try to open that portal? What for? Also how the fuck did they build a SUPER SECRET GIANT UNDERGROUND COMPLEX on the American soil without anyone noticing? That's fucking retarded. Also it's the third year in a row that some paranormal shit happens in that little town and most of the people living there are still oblivious.
They should have just ended it with this season. Extend it a few more episodes and wrap up the story. But of course they would never do that with all the money Netflix takes in
dilate
nice webm
Most of ElohEl's character arc revolved around episode 7. The plot progressed only due to her absence from the rest of the main cast, and that was only because of episode 7. It's not something you could just skip and the season would be perfectly fine. You could argue the entire season revolved around that episode.
>and they shoe horned the queer
Take a break from Yea Forums kid
Cope, sweaty
Yea it was a shit episode and her arc is shit because of it, that’s why season 2 was a misstep
Maybe the whole "everyone ain't getting none" element turned people off.
Its still fun but a little too angst porny at times.
>Gays get upset
More news at 11
She was best addition, but her and Steve did have a lot of romantic chemistry.
I guess the writers couldn't really predict that
Blatant summer fag. No you don't fit in yet.
Amerimutts are fags. The only reason it's getting lower ratings is because "muh favorite character died :''''( muh feels"
> guys open up his heart and talk about his feelings to a girl that looked interested on him
> girl says: boo hoo, im a dyke
> guy gets happy for being friend with an exotic dyke. [synthwave keyboards start playing while they laugh]
FUCK THIS SHIT.
Just because something isn't explained doesn't mean it's a plothole, you drooling retard
>cringe scene
That was the entire point, did you not see everyone else's reactions?
>Can't handle a criticism about a Yea Forums show
>GET OUT
You first normie
Maybe you should do what Steve did and grow the fuck up
Forced lesbian
Plot inconsistencies like how do these kids always infiltrate top secret high security government facilities from the usa or russia?
Why is S1 so much better than the other 2. It's like night and day
Yea Forums has always criticised lgbt shit
>She was best addition, but her and Steve did have a lot of romantic chemistry.
inb4 they retcon her into it being "lol just kidding. pls ride me Steve" in Season 4.
You retards would say any non-straight character is forced no matter what, fuck off
Give me 1 (one) good reason to ruin his character so thoroughly and wholly. And then have the gall to ALSO kill him off.
>third year in a row that some paranormal shit happens in that little town and most of the people living there are still oblivious.
That's easy explained because 80's. No cellphones, no easy cameras available, convenient events (4th of July) moving the attention of the people somewhere else...
But even then, the cover-ups are still attracting momentum, enough that a news report call is Hellkins and associate it to D%D, reminding of the Satanic Panic.
maybe you should dilate the gaping wound between your legs that you call a 'vagina'.
There is no guy on the face of the earth that would hear that his crush is a dyke and then immediately react by goofing around with her. Give me a genuine reason why her being a dyke is better than Steve just finally getting a break and ending up with her
turned from being redpilled (anti immigration, government abusing kids, single mother can't protect their spawns)
to woke force diversity fake drama show
I'm sorry she turned you down user
He didn't really realize that he liked her until that moment, and considering all the torture and drugging they went through its hard to say what a reasonable response was at that moment
>wew what a comeback
Only over 18s are allowed to post here kiddo
>Steve gets turned down by a girl
>lots of anons are mad
Jesus are a lot of anons getting vicariously angry through Steve and projecting their own experiences onto him or something?
i will act like a faggot who thinks its a normal person IRL (youre not) and pretend that the girl was a lesbian - after that whole spech about how cool the guy was.
ok? ok. she is a dyke, she loves some pussy.
why the fuck steve should not get frustrated? who does that? im not saying he should rape and kill her, but he could be sad.
nope.
he laughs and a fucking synth starts playing, like it was no big deal.
fuck this shit, nobody acts like that.
Because they're all seething incels from /pol/
Fuck, you have problems. Go see a therapist
He thought of it as a no harm no foul thing. its obvious in eelier episodes he doesn't care to have anything romantic with her at all but as things progress he realizes he does have a bit of a thing for her. Still, they are good friends, and he is happy for her. Not everyone loses their shit and gets all whiny when they get 'turned down', they are adults, and that wasn't even a turn down as much as it was a confession
its just another example of bad writing and a character acting at the most unrealistic way.
and both you fags are dumb. this is the same show were the duffer bros decide that ginger girl would kiss nigger boy because she didnt wanted to.
so why is such a stretch to imagine that they add the dyke element later?
the girls a dyke, tons of pretty women appear at the ice cream shop, she doesnt say anything?
its shit writing. they come up with that later or they hide it from the actress to make her statement about how cool the guys was, more honest.
it was an intentional mindfuck from the same hacks who are doing the exact same show for three seasons.
Give everything that just happened why wouldn't he laugh? It's all so completely insane? Secret Russians? Monsters? Torture? Of fucking COURSE the girl he liked would turn out to be lesbian, nothing else went right.
>character that gets shafted over and over again finally finds the perfect companion and realizes that the best things in life don’t come from status or prestige like his high school experiences
>writers say nah fuck that and make her a lesbian so that normies can applaud Netflix for diversity even though this is the 80s where everyone hated gay people
It’s plain fucking dumb, this isn’t /pol/ seething, it’s boring writing and the alternative would have been much better and appropriate.
It was a little too relationship dramaish, like everyone was having problems and no couple was fine. And a lot of it could have been 'resolved' if they had just sit down and talked it out. This goes for joyce and hopper too, who comically act just as immature as the kids with their relationship woes. At least you expect that shit from the children
>Guy gets turned down
>Incels ejaculate their own experiences all over the dykes face
Get a fucking life christ
>the girls a dyke, tons of pretty women appear at the ice cream shop, she doesnt say anything
So you honestly think that there's no reason she would keep being lesbian, in small town Indiana, to herself? Why are so many people on this board retarded?
Steve would've shot up the school or at least ran somebody over by now.
>it's the main plot device of the entire season
>but it's not explained in the slightest
>not a plothole
This, it’s sounds like a lot of these faggots have been turned down by lesbians or something.
That's right. Good job, retard, you figured it out
You are proving his point, have sex.
>it was supposed to be terrible are you autistic?
Fuck off you fat pig
Unexplained plot points are not plot holes.
Plot holes are things that prevent the plot from working or making sense
What’s the point of having that scene? It want funny it didn’t further the plot. It was plebbit tier nostalgia trash that only a faggot from there would appreciate
it wasnt done like that and you know it. it wasnt 'oh shit, well, what a shitty day'. it was played like he should accept things fast because you cannot frustrate le dyke chick.
there was so much gay action in america during the 80s that a little thing called AIDS get popular and spread like wild fire.
autistic faggots think theyre the first people to ever suck a dick or smash pussies on HISTORY, so much autism.
the fucking girl does a whole monologue about how cool steve was, the little things he used to eat and all and all and that because she wanted to be like him?
get the fuck out of here.
That giant underground russian base that appeared in Hawkings out of nowhere in less than a year totally makes sense.
>What’s the point of having that scene?
>plebbit tier nostalgia trash that only a faggot from there would appreciate
You answered your own question dumbass
>there was so much gay action in america during the 80s that a little thing called AIDS get popular and spread like wild fire.
Oh, and that somehow means being gay was accepted by everyone, including small town America with their conservative values and traditions? Fuck outta here man
I dropped season 2 while watching that Halloween episode and never returned. Nothing happened and I just left.
Here’s some
>Russians build the pentagon under a mall with no one noticing
>two children can break steve and robin out of a underground fortress with dozens of guards
>half a hospital is murders with nobody noticing for days
>el loses her powers for no reason
>hopper and winona scream at each other for 7 and a half episodes only to suddenly want to date
>a russian code that serves no purpose other than to tip off the kids is broadcast to the entire town
>robin is gay out of nowhere
>steve and robin wreck into billy just in the nick of time only to come out unscathed even though they weren’t wearing seatbelts
>fireworks somehow hurts a midflayer that barely flinches from a shot gun
>a memory of a beach is enough to bring billy back for reasons
>nobody notifies a lifeguard getting assaulted and dragged from a public
pool
>mike and els manufactures drama that anybody with half a brain could have resolved
I could go on and on desu. This season was a disaster
Yeah it was pretty unnecessarily elaborate considering the time frame and purpose, but again, not a plot hole. They used the starcourt construction as a cover.
the problem here is how the creators are cowards and bet on the same structure.
its obvious that it was suppose to be a one season thing and they would come up with other shit, an anthology, but it become "the" most popular netflix orifginal content and they had to accept.
FINE.
so pick up you bag of money and move the story ahead.
three seasons of the exact same thing plus retard things like 'the skeptical guy who saw gigantic monsters from another dimension one season ago'.
never watch until evangelion and devilman crybaby and god dammit, at least these japanese guys know how to escalate shit.
>hopper and winona scream at each other for 7 and a half episodes only to suddenly want to date
You are literally retarded aren't you?
Doesn’t make it any less awful fat boy
Season 2 was already weaker than season 1. This kind of stories always become progresively worse when shit starts to get explained and shown, and specially when they try to double down on stuff.
On season one the involvement of the kids alone made sense, but once season doubled down with several demagorgones, and demadogos and the nightflyer it just became too fucking big for nobody else to notice this shit. And now you´ve got the nightflyer in the real world and several murders and dissapearences on the same town that went nuts on season 1.
Add to this that the dynamics of the relationships between the characters are already known and developed. A story´s point is to serve as a vehicle for character´s growth and transformation. This season brought in almost zero development.
Steve and Nancy are gonna be endgame screenshot this. his arc ends when he gets the girl back
what baffles me the most is that pic related guys think that season 1 was any good.
>fat boy
Lolwut
It’s a huge plot hole. Made no sense
>that old granny
>Russian slurpy man
>Hopper
thats why
Okay, but WHY did they do that?
Interesting
It was worse though how many times are we going to get same setup every season. Only exception is the indian girl episode.
You literally don’t have an argument do you?
being gay is not accepted, is tolerated. its different.
that said, yes, there was already fag propaganda during the 80s, we wouldnt be in clown world if it wasnt for this progression of 'acceptance' as the most important value.
so yes, if she gave a hint about being a lesbian the guy would get.
but that wasnt an issue because the character wasnt a dyke and im sure there must be interviews with the creators talking about how they come with the idea at the last minute.
just like ginger kissing nigger kid.
shows get much higher scores than movies
a 89% is the equivalent of a 7.9 show on imdb
This.
Season 2 seemed to drag, had that pointless "spin off" episode and took too long to get to the actual story.
Season 3 at least got to the action quick, but I guess it did at the sake of character interactions and gave some characters pretty short shrift because of it.
The new characters were more interesting in season 2, the action was better, and they actually attempted some amount of worldbuilding. Nothing in season 3 comes close to how good of a villain Billy was in season 2, and Alexei is no Bob Newby.
>being gay is not accepted, is tolerated.
There are plenty of places in America where gays aren't tolerated man
This. Killing off based bob was the nail in the coffin for this shitshow
the goverment/evil corporation find A MIRROR DIMENSION right during the cold war and they just let the place there because they cover it with cement, why the fuck not?
>The new characters were more interesting in season 2
no, just no
Should be anywhere where there’s children desu
The dialogue and character arcs were better in season 2 for the most part. Also, felt like we got to many marvel funny scenes with them farting and shit.
I like how Joyce only mentions Bob once during the entirety of season 3 and neither of the kids give any shits about him at all. Did the writers forget he existed? Jon and Will barely even feel like brothers, in fact I can’t recall them even speaking to each other seriously a single time
>why the fuck not.
You could make that argument for any action regardless of it making sense
wich doesnt stop america from spreading the whole glamour of FUCKING TRANNY BOYS to the whole world as the most nice and normal thing ever.
and stupid single moms think thats a cool idea.
What are you talking about
the ending was pure shit. the writing didnt do anything challenging of course it got worse reviews.
I don't mind her being a lesbian, it bothers me that I was lead on by having a huge part of her character being misleading/omitted. There were just zero signs to her being gay.
Justice for Bob
at least the monster was cool this series. that's about it though, everything else is just a retread.
er...no he wasnt. He wasnt, because the entire concept of the monster is retarded.
It could have mass of demons running a mock, but instead, it assembled into one retarded blob, severly limiting the potential it could achieve.
Also, it killed Mrs. Driscoll, so fuck that subhuman piece of shit
>fuck, we shut down the lab that released all the spooky shit because Tumblr wanted vengeance for their self insert. What do we replace it with?
>Russians? Sure, fuck it
why was Hopper acting like a fucking lunatic this season? Seriously its like the Duffer brothers got hit with a baseball bat and forgot how to write logical characters.
I fucking hated that the Invasion of the Body Snatchers story went fucking no where. All we got was one good scene with Billy's GF Parents, then Gary Busey's comic book villain asshole guy.
What a waste, had an interesting villain that wasn't LE BIG GCI MONSTER
Him and Joyce swapped their overbearing natures, Will isnt in constant danger anymore so Joyce has mellowed out, but now Hopper is doting dad to Eleven and is now like Joyce was in season 1 and 2.
>Also, it killed Mrs. Driscoll, so fuck that subhuman piece of shit
Based, Mrs Driscoll was great
They wanted the feminist audience, so of course all logic had to be thrown out of the window this season
Boggles my mind how they didn’t do anything with it. They amass an entire army and they don’t show any of it aside from Heather and the parents. Wouldn’t it have been way better if that was the big mystery this season? Nancy and Jon are looking for rats instead when they should’ve been investigating random disappearances and strange behaviors
Yup, being a parent changes you
Why is Yea Forums so opposed to characters changing over time?
They were telegraphing it so hard with the Day of the Dead foreshadowing at the start. It would have been SO good as well. Not just 'defeat faceless supernatural villain of the week' but how do you feel about killing actual people, actual flesh and blood? Or even better trying to figure out how to stop them without hurting them. Fucking hell I could write this shit better they should hire me.
>But they didn't. It was mentioned once and never bout up again
That's literally what shoehorned means.
Except that isnt what it means at all
YES
YASSS
NO
LOL
god damn nancy was ugly this season
Season 3 is so much better than Season 2. S2 is basically nothing happens until the last episode, while 3 keeps you on the edge all the time and is extremely well paced.
Was it ever explained why the Russians wanted to reopen it? Did they want to weaponize it?
All that was necessary for him to complete his arc was for him to accept an unpopular girl as a possibility to date, which is what happened.
>Forced lesbian
What do you call these kinds of complaints?
S2 is great you cock gargling twat. It explains more of the upside down, expands on El's life, and ends decently even though it has a cliffhanger. And the monster is the best of all 3 seasons.
Wasted potential, the season. At least the cinematography was fantastic. Loved that shot by the antenna with all the helicopters.
People were still fine with sending them to lightning camps at that point. He should have snitched and got her best into being normal.
>There were just zero signs to her being gay.
Maybe she should have worn a badge or something.
Bro it's not a plothole, it just hasn't been explained yet ;)
Those first two are the only valid ones the rest of those aren't even close to plot holes and you're retarded
they killed my boy
Do girls really find that muppethair and the shitty moustache hot?
I mean yes that's how it works when a story is ongoing
At least he can't be ruined now.
Winona Ryder should have had a topless scene. Would have boosted ratings.
It's a god damn miracle that they didn't try that episode 7 shit this time. I was half expecting a "we heard your criticisms and this is how we fix them with a 'bad ass' reveal' out of nowhere moment the second that El said "Illinois". Hopefully they abandon that shit all together.
Not gay, but I think he's really attractive.
you don't have to be gay to notice the innate attractiveness of other men
we are technically part vagina
based
Or maybe she should have had some interactions that didn't result in a fake-out.
What the fuck are you asking for? There was no fake out.
Why the fuck does anyone pretend this show is good at all.
Season 1 was decent so that means you have to watch the show until it ends? Fucking pathetic.
Will and Jon, especially Jon, were the worst done by characters in S3. Lucas wasn't far behind. They were just props, made to whinge, get beaten and make quips, respectively.
Meanwhile they spent way too fucking long on the ScoopTroupe stuck in the base storyline.
>hating that Max is the epitome of female power
You just can’t handle a POWERFUL modern woman like her
You're stupid, right?
Why are there people even defending this? They literally admitted they only thought of the lesbian stuff right before the shoot.
Are you on your second or third daily dilation? Keep at it though, you're a beautiful butterfly!
I'm not watching it because of the race-mixing in season 2. Also, season 3 should have just been the US military quarantining and liquidating the whole town.
Yeah it was pure bait to play around with 'evil' versions of all the main characters, but they did nothing
It's too bad he was possessed so early in the season and we didn't get to see much of his real character.
Season 3 was based.
The only ones who hate it are commie faggots who got butthurt.
DUDE 80s LMAO
BY THE WAY DID YOU KNOW ITS THE 80s?!
Also why the fuck did El end up with Joyce? She is the least capable mother out of all the minor characters
What was the fake out?
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>tfw no Snowball this season
>dude don't question it just turn your brain off and consume, it's based
I LIKE STRANGER THINGS!
I LIKE STRANGER THINGS!
I LIKE STRANGER THINGS!
I LIKE STRANGER THINGS!
SINCE YOU GONE I BEEN LOST WITHOUT A TRACE
haha xd my favorite movies are all these obscure black and white movies no teenager has ever seen in their life
damn those ethan hawke genes really dragging her down, she looks 30 already
>pretend two characters are going to hook up
>they both act like and say things to indicate that they're interested in one another
>build the subplot over 7 episodes
>lolnosurprisegay
I DREAM AT NIGHT I CAN ONLY SEE YOUR FACE
Looks like your expectations........
*lights cigarette, takes a huge drag and blows it in your face*
....were subverted.
I think they have a bloated cast. Much so they always split them into groups, only to find themselves together at the end.
This gives little screentime to some tertiary roles, that end up being used as plot devices ("he's here") or comic relief.
This was the first season that actually moved me emotionally. I cried at the end when Hop died and El told mike she loved him. Season 2 was by far the worst.
It wasn't well done and I say that as a gay. The obviously gay character is Will but lesbians are apparently easier to do than actual gays.
>Hop died
um did you not watch the end?
Ok let me rephrase, I for choked up watching El's reaction to Hop "dying."
or, y'know, he could have just gotten the unpopular girl and have the same effect
yea the letter was touching
Not him, but I thought the Russian had said "not him, the american" as "get the american to feed the demogorgon". Did I misread it?
Yeah. He said 'Not the American, him.' I also speak Russian and that is what he said.
Yes, Hop is in Russian prison some how.
He obviously hid inside the portal. The lingering shot on the portal and then back to Hopper indicates this.
>that the fad has faded.
this
season would've been better without the russian shit. Mindflayer and Billy was great though
Holy shit.
There it is. Season 4 we'll see 11 get her powers back and the first thing she'll do is try to find Hopper only to discover he is indeed alive.
S4 and possibly S5 will be about Eleven getting nerfed to a reasonable level. So S4 will be her relearning her powers albeit at a lesser degree, and then S5 will be her learning to live with her reduced abilities. Screenshot this post.
the Russian shit should've been more low-key. Instead of a pentagon-sized military base they should've happened upon some sort of espionage
>Nancy
That would be the worst ending for him.
Steve and Dustin bros 4 lyfe (f*ck hoes) is the real endgame.
>season 5
God I hope not. But I know they'll milk this until then.
Honestly the only thing worse than a show going on too long is a rushed ending. See also: Gravity Falls. I feel like 5 Seasons would be a reasonable amount to wrap things up without it feeling rushed. The kids will basically be adults (16) by that point. S4 is Eleven et. al. realising they have unfinished business in Hawkins and returning. S5 is defeating the big bad. Done and dusted.
I lost interest after episode 2, it all sucked
The first two episodes were real garbage and I could not care fucking less about the kids love problems.will constantly looks so cranky I hate that snarl he does and every time I see 11 on screen all I can think about is *that* thing.
After that it really picked up and I enjoyed it more than the second season I think.
However I will say, I fucking hate bodysnatcher tropes, I think it's always so fucking cliche so I'm glad they all got destroyed fairly quick to make way for the actual flayer.
>set up Busey to get his comeuppance
>he just shows up randomly infected
>Max coming of age
I'm for it.
I was expecting him to get a redemption arc. Like the old boys club at the paper was a parallel for the Body Snatchers supernatural arc. And then he would realise how wrong he had been and reform his ways. But no Nancy just beat his head in with a fire extinguisher. Girl power.
Yep. This show sucked. Remember the child actor in E.T? Now theres a kid with raw talent. These fortnite dancing zoomers arent fooling anyone.
Remember the plot of season 8 GOT?
Still better writing than this season. Still better special effects and music. They event used Never Ending Story's track because the retard zoomers making the music dont understand synthesizers or the aesthetics of the 80s. And the princess there, now thats pure and innocent, unlike this girl telekinesis scream for the 82738th fucking time.
Remember Arnold Scwharznigger in Terminator 1? Now thats a terminator. Thats a soldier who doesnt stop, never stops. This russian vodka cyka blyat pansy was the worst unironic ripoff I gave ever seen. Holy shit. Thats double yikes with a cringe on top.
What the fuck lads? TV shows are getting so shit. Hey lets throw in 5000 references to old garbage like magnum PI so the redditors can give gold ro each other. Its fucking disgusting. Im sure I saw a kid do the fortnite dance in the background too. BACK TO THE FU- R.EDDIT
The only saving grace here was Billy. The true saviour and hero of the show. A chad through and through but OH NO They had to ruin him to. See kids he was traumatized! HAHA He wasnt just a result of a psychopathic chad capitalism bro, his dad was a meanie wife beater!
FUCK THIS SHOW
EVERY GOD DAMN THING WAS A RIPOFF. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WAS ORIGINAL, RIGHT DOWN TO THE GOD DAMN LOCATION, NOT! EERIE INDIANA
Is this pasta?
Stranger Things should have been a complete new story every season...it lost its charm once the mystery was out.
Nah it's a character story. The Terror is doing this and it sounds fucking shit. Same with True Detective.
>Season 2 was a shitty rehash of the first seaso
Wish it were, that would have made it substantially better. It was horrible.
good lord, his legs are hairy
>we'll never get to see where the "there are other children with wacky magical powers" plot lines go because they fucked it up so hard with Kali
The US Dept. of Defense has spent the last ten years providing cash under the table to film/tv studios that shoehorn Russian bad guys because they're psychologically preparing the American public for WW3.
It's not that deep, this is just meant to be a super 80s nostalgia show. I dunno if you know this, but US vs USSR was kind of a big hot thing back then. This is just hollow Gen X nostalgia pandering like all the rest of the show.
this thesis would kinda explain those random Russians that show up in stuff like Batman v Superman and that new Jurassic World though
I didnt like the tonal shift between the group dealing with the blob vs the ruskis which leaned heavily towards parody, if the supposed hidden base was far smaller and more compact it would have been more believable and in line with the rest of the show.
Season 2 was shit. If I liked S1 though is 3 worth watching?
this is the best post so far
>tfw we'll end up fighting the Russians again while Israel and China consolidate their control over the world
>China
Who do you think is REALLY behind all this US/Russia tension?
When was the last time you saw a Chinese movie bad guy?
What the fuck happened to Mike's dad? Did I miss something?
>Slowly melting
Most people watching that happen to other people would find that pretty gruesome.
Yes they are you fat reddit shit. Otherwise explain them
This. no one from the main crew gets infected, no dilemma of trying to save them.Also, none of the main characters give a shit about killing/saving the flayed. All the mystery of the chemicals and flayed was just" lol we made a giant meatloaf monster", so fucking wasted.
t. butthurt commie
Did it hurt especially bad that your BTFO came from a black girl?
Cringey garbage.
bump
Nope, normie family members were disappointed by cringe.
imagine only sending a message to your costar once every 6 months
Tbf he was probably too busy ruining every scene with his shitty acting
what kind of person would use the phrase "i was obsessed with you" to someone of the opposite sex but mean it in a negative way? ie. jealous
its fucking stupid bait and switch writing.
best chemistry of the season, hands down. every other fucking kid annoys me, and mike looks like a literal school shooter
>Lucas BTFO
F
Black characters are never the favorite among white fans.
The cartoon static shock had more fanfiction written about the white sidekick than the black MC
What the fuck does Will Even do? He is not a character, and Noah don't know how to act
It really should be between Mike and Dustin
Dude Nancy literally cuck him, that would be the worse case scenario
Honestly all they need to do is:
>All the Kids in one group, not depending of Eleven, Mike as leader, Max doing nothing because she is shit and Lucas not being ass, take out Will of the show becuase he is a not character and don't know how to act.
>Jonathan and Nancy go the fuck out to college or something, they have nothing to do anymore.
>Keep Robin and Steve plot, maybe add Dustin sometimes and overlap with Kids group, completely drop the nigger sister
>If Hopper is alive then he and Joyce can be a group, if not Joyce can fuck off
There, i fixed this shit
>Omg we are going to die tied up in these chairs
>Before I die I should tell you I noticed everything u you did in this one class we had together
>You didn't even notice me
>I was obsessed with you
>I couldn't help it I couldn't stop thinking of you
>loljk I'm gay tho
>8 votes