Why didnt KAL-EL™ just cover Zod's eyes with his indestructible kryptonian hand?

He tried to, did you not watch the movie at all?

And why didnt it work?

Because he missed.

Why the fuck didn't Kryptonians make travelling to a yellow sun a priority if they knew they'd become gods if they got near one?

it would be extremely painful

How could he possibly hit KAL-EL™ with his fists if he cant even do it with eye lasers?

As soon as Supes lifts a hand off Zod's neck to cover his eyes, Zod would fry the family.

Oh stop it you. This is damn hilarious

Same reason tyrannical governments all over the world like to ban guns, people with power are hard to rule.

Because Zack Snyder and David Goyer are fucking hacks.

eye lasers are harder to aim than fists.

Peter Parker can stop a speeding train but KAL-EL™ cant slam zod's face into the concrete when already keeping him in a necklock?

Reminder for all the Yea Forums Snyder fanboys: The issue with this scene was never that Superman killed a guy and more that they play it up as a huge deal that he killed a guy even though it was never really established in the movie that killing someone to save the world was a line that Superman was determined to not cross.

It's a payoff, as an emotional climax of the movie, with no setup.

You gotta trademark and copyright Zod (c) as well.

No because Zod is as strong as Kal El

Never was a fan of superheroes. Never read any comics. When I saw mos on theatre I understood exactly what was going on in that scene. As well as in some others people like you usually struggle with. Come, these are just good looking nobrainer films.

And he was already in submission, he doesnt have infinite strength. Why didnt KAL-EL™ start lasering his arms while he was in the necklock? Burn the back of his head to debilitating but nonlethal levels? Take flight and force zod out of the situation? Tell the people to run away and dodge the laser?

Because Zod was forcing Kal to give him a warrior's death. Kal had to kill zod before he became in control of his power more fully and became too powerful to stop. Zod was disappointed that Kal had chosen humanity over his own race and thus forced him to live out his life as the "Last Son of Krypton"

Was KAL-EL™ the white man fighting for multiculturalism?

He was a usual good guy.

power levels are always fluctuating in capeshit, there is no point in arguing about this.

A theme doesn’t need to be addressed if it’s universal and being sad they have to use a last resort, that’s a common theme in tons of action movies. I think it was obvious from the movie that he was the type of hero who would not take pleasure in snapping someone’s neck in front of some children. What do ya need a quippy monologue explaining it?

>Tell the people to run away and dodge the laser?
That's what should have happened, or the people running away by themselves. They had a good 15 seconds to escape the death beam but instead cowered in the same spot

>the usual Snyder fanboy tactic of deflecting criticism with "you just didn't get it"

Like fucking clockwork.

Because killing him worked

at least DC movies post nolan are consistently shit uwhahahaa ba dum tsh

Ne-capsehit-pas patrician here.

Who the fuck is KAL-EL and why is it funny?

But what if it didn't?

This and his hands are busy grappling the dude.

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Whose mom was holding the camera here?

I never understood how this works with batman and superman movies. like how the fuck do they know that random mooks they beat up won't die due to injuries? why do they care about human life only when it come to the final boss? how come supes didn't have that meltdown earlier when he was beating other kryptonians to pulp?

why not lick his ear to gross him out? that mightve got him to stop making lasers.

And after that? Kryptonite doesn't exist yet (well, it was literally just created and isn't known about yet), Clark has no idea how to use the Phantom Zone, there is no prison on earth or accessable to Clark or the earthlings to imprison him, and he has all Clark's powers and is getting used to them rapidly compared to Clark himself. Whose to say Clark wins if they keep fighting?

He could perhaps have stopped him doing this by using his hand, but how about when Zodd throws him a across the planet and then obliterates Metropolis and Gotham with his heat vision?

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I don’t disagree. But that’s a trope that goes back to silent action films. Also he was officially killing the last of his kind. And I don’t prefer marvels method of over explaining/moralizing.

People hate what they don't understand.

yeah I don't like that explanation stuff either. first Iron man movie got it right, he kills the terrorists and the final boss but don't regret and mope around about of those things because it was self defense and they are pieces of shits. they kept it simple and trusted the audience to understand that much

How do I get a physique like Caville

Why didn't Zod just look to the side?

Just be yourself

Marvel gets a pass b/c bias.

Why didn't that family of retards just leave? I mean, Supes is holding Zod for about twenty minutes, and those retards just keep standing there.

Why did those random bystanders wedge themselves into a corner, it's Darwinism at work if you ask me

Beat me to it

>at least capeshit movies post nolan are consistently shit uwhahahaa ba dum tsh
ftfy

And lastly, this:

OK. He’s covering his eyes now in spite of the excruciating pain? Now what? Just keep asking him nicely to stop?

If you think Supes has never killed anybody, you don’t know shit about comics on the first place. MoS wasn’t even the first time he’s killed Zod, not even in a movie. Superman is extremely reluctant to kill, but he’ll do it when left with no other choice.

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That story is often completely overlooked if not retconned entirely to Superman simply being another generic no kill hero who goes batshit evil the moment he does kill anyone (Injustice)

Except Superman has killed others. Darkseid, Doomsday, etc. If a threat is large enough and there's no other way Superman is willing to kill.

Because flight isn’t just flight for them. It’s essentially inwardly-directed telekinesis. Zod can counter his attempt to fly. You see him actually overcoming Clark’s attempt to steer them clear of the train station just moments earlier. That’s what Zod’s screaming about in that moment - the supreme effort of forcing the two of them right back into a populated area.

Why didn't Zod just move his eyeballs toward the family

And then what? Even if Superman knocks out Zod what will he do with him? There's no prison on Earth that can hold Zod and he couldn't throw him back in the phantom zone either.

This is the most logical response.

Burn him in the sun

>kryptonians are powered by the Sun
>lmao just throw him in the Sun dude

Congrats on being the biggest retard ITT.

>it doesn’t count because I don’t want it to.

Want me to show you some other instances where informs people how he doesn’t have a hard, fast rule about it like Bruce does, but generally does his best to find other ways? It’s an option that’s never off the table for him, and it hasn’t been for more than 30 years. He’ll kill if left no other options. Zod left him with none. Not just because of the family in front of them, but because he was absolutely never going to stop.

That would have been an interesting plot point to explore, instead of this comvenient "I'll goad you into killing me mbahaha" we got.
However, please refresh my memory, didn't they have just sent the other Krptonians to the Phantom Zone? Why couldn't Supes send Zod too?

Use his eye lazers to lobotomize Zod, rendering him incapacitated, without killing him.

Because he lacks finer control of it like Supes had developed. When they go full blast, it isn’t coming through their pupils, but rather just erupting from their eyesockets. You see Supes do it, too. Zod hasn’t learned that degree of control yet. For him, it’s either off or full ham.

Because they used the drive from Superman's ship, the one he arrived on Earth in. That's gone so Zod can't be sent anywhere.

>That would have been an interesting plot point to explore,
The movie is 2.5 hours already. When were they going to explore that, exactly?

Oh, how noble. Just fry his brain and turn him into a vegetable. So much more humane than giving him a warrior's death.

He had just lost access to it sending all the others back using his ship and Zod’s the old scoutship he had left was from tens of thousands of years before Kryptonians had developed that tech.

I’m convinced guys like you don’t actually know how to engage with a film. It’s clear you don’t really watch them.

Oh fuck, I can’t stop laughing.

kek

The Nazi Holocaust pales by comparison! That is, if the Judeo-Bolshevik quasi so-called Holocaust even happened in the first place!
Jesus, how did they get away with this?

forgot my meme arrow
now my Yea Forums bros will laugh at me :(

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Tell that to Zod's snapped neck

Or even better: A blue sun, which amplifies the Kryptonian power level even higher.
Or a planet with a weaker atmosphere, which means more sunlight to become Godlier.

There is a few pointers:
I get wanting to go to a 10G world, since Krypton is like that. The raw ability from being raised in 10G is impressive. Kal El is in some ways weak because he is raised in 1G.
I don't get wanting the 1G atmosphere plus a filter to reduce sunlight, since the power level of Kryptonians build the longer they are exposed.
Then again, a recurring theme in the adaptions and the comics is that the Kryptonians suffer from EXTREME hubris.

Why didn't Shazam just fry his horrible roastie mom's brains with his lightning powers?

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The absolute state of Snyder haters

why didn't Supes just lean backwards?

>nu-52

Lmaoing at you, dude. That version of Superman wasn't even the "real" Superman. He was just an aspect of him.

I'm not saying it needed to add twenty minutes of Kal being all angst-y, just make the decision a cold-headed, rational choice instead of adding this cop out of a contrivance where he didn't mean to, buthe was forced to do it.

Because Zod would close his eyes, then KAL-EL™ would check to see if they're closed and he'd quickly open them again

Oh look, another idiot who can’t distinguish between killing and murder. Learn2context, dipshit.

So you want Superman to be a stone cold killer?

I want to watch the drama of him having to make the decision. Zod practically committing suicide isn't that interesting as a climax.

because ever her was more attractive than Superman's gf

He did make the decision. You want some Clark to have some inner monolouge ansgting over it or something?

It gets even more stupid when you realie it’s heat VISION. If Zod could see that family to try and blast them then he should’ve been able to blast them.

You don’t even know what that term means. A stone-cold killer would have killed Luthor. You’re probably the type who’d lock up a good many real-world heroes for shooting an armed assailant instead of just cowering until “AUTHORITY” arrived.

Why didn't he fuck Darla

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But he didn't. His hand was forced. In a particularly clumsy way.

No, *you* get more stupid by calling attention to how you missed literally everything they set up about how heat vision works over the course of a two-hour film.

Why did she look exactly the same as a 17 year old and a 32 year old?

>*record scratch*
>*freeze frame*
>yeah, that's me. Guess you're wondering how I feel about this situation. This is the kind of moral dilemma (from the Greek "di", meaning "two", and "lemma", usually interpreted as a subsidiary premise of an overall hypothesis) that was a mainstay of the work of clasical philosopher Socrates. Let me take you back to the 5th century BC, where we'll meet some historical figures, learn a little more about situations with conflicting moral requirements and how we can apply those lessons to my Zod problem, and yes, maybe have a little fun along the way. Let's go for a ride.

>Zod practically committing suicide isn't that interesting as a climax.
why?

Because it's a cop out. It takes the agency away from the main character. It starts posting a question: what would you do if you were in that situa- oh, no, wait, it solved itself because Zod literally decided to contrive his way into suicide. Nevermind.

That’s the most ass-backwards logic I’ve seen here since . Is that you?

They spent the whole movie establishing that Kryptonians were a failed civilization, hopelessly deterministic, and worshiping their own deified “science.” Zod had lost all reason for living by the end and was beyond listening to reason. It’s a tragic death under tragic circumstances. Everything he believed led him to that point.

Because his balls haven't dropped.

>Zod literally decided to contrive his way into suicide
He literally explains this in the movie. His reason for living is gone. He exists to protect Krypton and now Krypton is gone forever.

>It takes the agency away from the main character
how so? Clark already made his big decision when he decided to save Earth and humans instead of reinstating Krypton and his own people.

Tell that to Zod's snapped neck.

>nazis

Ugh. If they wanted a genocide analogy, what about the 100 million native americans?

Oh, yeah, sorry, I should have clarified that I meant that it took his agency in that particular scene, not in the whole movie.
I didn't think it needed clarification, but there we go.

Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't arguing that Zod had no reason to kill himself. I was saying that the way he does it is dumb, contrived and a way for the writer to add fake drama.

But it's not contrived, at all. It ties into everything we know about Zod as a character and how Kryptonian society works. It's a completely organic result of what we've been told about the pre-determined genetic programming of Kryptonian reproduction as contrasted with Clark's natural birth. It's what the film is about.

Is Superman the laziest and most unoriginal name there? Can’t interview going to the cinema and asking for “one ticket to see superman please”, how embarrassing.

FLOSS ON EM
*floss dance*

You dont need to greentext everything, I got the sentiment you were going for. it was humorous, not even enough for a laugh or even a sharp nose exhale, but raimiposting is a funny category of shitpost and I enjoyed your post.
Only onions-tier redditors are the ones who are so inept and autistic that they cant distinguish sarcasm through text on a blog/imageboard, so if you had gotten shit, you really shouldnt let it get to you

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As a Cherokee, I’m not going to argue that point.

Kek.

Why didn't he use his own eyes to burn through the back of Zod's head before he reached the people? Or why couldn't he use his super breath to change the trajectory of Zod's beams?

He could've used his own eye blasters to destroy the ceiling above them and bury them both in rubble giving the family a chance to escape

And then what? Let more people die in the carnage of their continued battle? Zod wasn’t going to stop. Ever. He said so himself.

Why didn’t Tony just turn Thanos into a nicer, non-powered person?

its for quoting retard

man of murder wanted plausible deniability

You don’t need deniability when the homicide is justified.

Why didn’t Superman just reverse time, undo all the damage and break Zod’s neck from the start?

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He's 15, you know how much I was jerking off when I was 15?

>The issue with this scene was never that Superman killed a guy and more that they play it up as a huge deal that he killed a guy even though it was never really established in the movie that killing someone to save the world was a line that Superman was determined to not cross.
Cringe retard. That's just one interpretation of the scream. What if he screamed because he just exterminated the only other remaining member of his race? He effectively suicided krypton.
The whole film is Supes searching for who he is, and ends with him killing the last other member of his race. Of course he can be in internal agony. The real problem is that they don't address this afterwards, the next scene is him smiling with the army bloke.

Well there’s your answer. Banging your own estranged mom would cut into your wanking-to-cheerleaders time.