Will there be 2010s nostalgia films in the future?

>People have been peddling this “end of history” shit for decades
True, but people were saying this before smartphones became as commonplace as automobiles.

That's where I put it...

youtube.com/watch?v=4u2nNWgnXxA

>1980s was the worst period of time that ever existed

cringe and yikes

>This is incorrect because everything after roughly 2008ish is essentially the same.
I cannot begin to describe how not true this is

Like it is so unbelievably divorced from reality I can't even wrap my head around it

The state of pop culture around 2008 was hyper-produced pop music so sugary that it gave you diabetes, Beats By Dre and White Oakleys

The state of pop culture around 2018 is obtuse minimalist hipster bullshit where an art hoe in babytalk ebonics moans over a song that barely has a pulse about how her relationship with a guy that has diamonds in his teeth isn't completely ideal

Like it's just so fucking far on the other end of the spectrum. It basically exists as a bubble because people were emberassed about what came before it

I sometimes can barely even believe that the world in 2018 and the world in 2008 are the same place

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>movie opens up on NYC
>we follow young half-black, half-asian Jamiroquai Johnson as he rides his Halo Rover Hoverboard to school
>he passes a group of protesters, some in black masks some in red ballcaps, all arguing about "Wall Street"
>after we meet his multiethnic friends, including a muslim tranny named Amara, there's a school shooting perpetrated by a lily-white kid in a cherry-red MAGA-inspired hoodie
>Jamiroquai learns that his older brother D'Jordan is part of something called "antifa" and he joins The Resistance (TM)
>Jam's "good with computers" so he uses his iPhone to hack into the teachers' iPads and find out who's part of the MAGA group
>Jam uncovers a conspiracy to take away SNAP cards from all the black students (and only the black students) and he and his Resistance friends stop them
>Along the way his token white friend falls in love with Amara (because no black audience member on any point in the timeline wants to see the black protagonist lay hands on a tranny)

The whole thing is played completely straight because in 20-30 years pop culture will be completely humorless.

youtube.com/watch?v=Co0tTeuUVhU
This song encapsulates pop culture from 2008-Present

Kanye was the catalyst for pop music, and he created a thousand other shitty phoned-in imitations.
Bad example. It might actually be the worst one.

Here is a better comparison:
youtube.com/watch?v=w4s6H4ku6ZY
youtube.com/watch?v=FMlcn-_jpWY

Like just so unbelievably different.
It isn't apples and organges, it's apples and a Boeing 747. These things are so fundamentally different that I can't even wrap my head around saying that "it's stayed basically the same"

Man, I'm so glad my college years occurred during the boom of club bangers like the Far East Movement song.

Western society you mean. You faggots couldn't even maintain the lead without shitting the bed and destroying the planet. It's not even like you were on top for a millenia like chinks and Poos, just a couple of centuries and you managed to destroy most of the planet and its various cultures. Ww2 should have ended with EU, USA and Turkey killing 90% of its population

It's a fucking terrible song.
Like terrible. It is so bad. Even when I was 13 I couldn't dance to it without my mental cycles being dedicated to thinking about what a bad song I'm listening to.

It is with no kind of discriminatory judgement that I say that I would rather listen to it than the auditory diarrhea of a song like the second example

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Oh no, don't get me wrong. All club bangers are shitty songs. The best part about them is the beat. The lyrics are usually garbage, the hook repetitive. But that beat is so much better than the second one.

But we got this just a few years ago.

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What's it with all these philosophical posts today? Actual content? On my Yea Forums?

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Another absolute choon.

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not that poster, but i feel like at any point in time my brain uses the device in pic related to decide between "length philosophical diatribe that nobody will read anyway" and "fuck it, i'm shitposting" and the latter usually wins

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Totally false. The big change was 2012, with another in 2015. Maybe it was just public feeling catching up with what was already happening in the West, but things definitely felt different prior to 2012 and again prior to 2016. I feel like 2016 firmly established the current clown world paradigm that hasn’t really changed since. Late 2000s early 2010s weren’t all that different from the 90s. Late 2010s is a totally different world.

The recession really did a number on things.

>All club bangers are shitty songs. The best part about them is the beat. The lyrics are usually garbage, the hook repetitive.
This is the crux of what I'm saying.

You listen to pop music for a hook that makes you feel energized and and a hook that gets stuck in your head

You haven't produced a better song by making it boring. You just took away the only redeeming thing about it
You now have a dumb song with vapid lyrics that feels like a chore to sit through

You have musicians that have lived through both eras, and it's downright amazing that it's the same person:
youtube.com/watch?v=up7pvPqNkuU
youtube.com/watch?v=HL1UzIK-flA

This is where the gaslighting that this pretentious hipster BS is supposed to be the most "artistic and mystical thing" where they moan nasally about their relationship.
How do you take yourself seriously when you're the same human being that created both songs.

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Second half of that applies to 1975 to 1983 and That 70s Show exists.

*replace the last two 2016s with 2015

Can we at least agree that 2008ish was the beginning of the end? You're right that it took a while for things to pick up, but all the catalysts were there in 2008.

i feel like the older we get, the less we tap into pop culture at large and the less we let shit we're not already interested in affect us, therefore we build up these massive blind spots. each and every year is marching toward some inevitable future, each brings some kind of incremental change with it. the shitty thing is we're all so wrapped up in our ever-changing daily lives that we'll never fully appreciate what changes are happening around us until they're fully implemented.

>the older we get, the less we tap into pop culture at large
It's because you grew out of it. People who are genuinely interested in pop culture past the age of like 22 are still mentally stuck in high school. The "blind spots" you're referring to are a sign of maturity.

i'm not as plugged into pop music because i fucking hate it, but you've cited compelling examples to support your argument. i sift through hours and hours of indie rock to find some gems in there. that's such a general catch-all genre that it's easy to miss any kinds of contemporary patterns that that music falls into. with pop, to me it always just sounds the same, now and 10 years ago, all R&B garbage.

i have strong opinions about what decades led to the best genre music. for me, 70s had some spectacular rock. 80s had excellent pop music. 90s had the best rap. 00s had the best mindless club music.

but 10s had...what exactly?

Recession + Web 2.0 + Obama-era identity politics and the birth of the SJW movement

I could be called many things, but "philosopher" isn't really one of them

I would call it less of a profound statement and more just a basic acknowledgement of reality. As profound as it may seem after 8 or so years of this bullshit

I think the hipster generation ruined everything. It's the generation of people that spent all day smirking at the inside of their own ass and trying to bully anyone else that put any kind of effort or passion into anything they do
What we seem to have gotten as a result is a generation of people that are afraid to do anything unless they can fall back on the pretense of "irony". "It's ironic, it doesn't actually represent me as a person. I just dick around in the land of ambiguity all day"

Fuck you, millenials

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No. Culture in the 2010s has developed so rapidly and changes way too much for any nostalgia throwback. 2000s are going to be the last decade that the media can cash in on with nostalgia. Memes and trends from just a few years ago are already severely outdated and mocked. Popular culture is literally dying and becoming hegemonic

2007 was the spark, 2008 was the boom, 2015 was the beginning of the end. Prove me wrong

Zoomers genuinely manage to be worse.

>but 10s had...what exactly?
The line between pornography and popular culture becomes thinner and thinner each year
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Post-post-postmodernism at its finest. We moved past modernism to critique it. Then we started to critique the critiques and disappear up our own asses. Then we got a point of exhaustion and threw our hands up in nihilistic fury while proclaiming "Does any of this shit even matter?" That's how it feels to me, anyway. Nobody believes in anything anymore. Being a social progressive is more about scoring goodboi points on social media more than it is actually making positive societal changes. Everything happens on a superficial level and passion has all but dissipated from our spirit.

Or maybe I'm old.

That's because they were born into one of the strangest periods of human history. It's not entirely their fault.

I fucking hate the 2010's.
t. 21 year old male.

It lends more weight to the whole "identity politics" another user made. Shut Up and Drive is just Rihanna trying to appeal to the masses with generic pop rock whatever, and Work is where she is trying to show how she is a Barbados pop star.

this is why i think indie rock is still pretty good. lots of weird concepts behind the lyrics, or just regular old tried-and-tested loved and lost songs. those are fucking timeless and always relatable.

The Obama campaign picked at a bunch of scabs better left untouched to get elected and technology did the rest.

the 2010s feels so soulless
and i'm saying this as a zoomer

Conversely there are people on this very board who are ironically far right, who LARP as Nazis, Trad Catholic distributists, Anarcho-primitives, reactionary monarchists and more, espousing ideas that don't really believe or understand, ideas that would probably end up hurting people like them. They espouse them only because they feel threatened by the hostility the left has towards anyone who isn't "oppressed" and since shallow progressivism (neoliberalism with a smile) is the current orthodoxy the only countercultural position seems to be that of the far right radical.

>but 10s had...what exactly?
They're looking for some kind of personality.

For a hot minute it was dubstep, but that kind of fizzled out quickly
youtube.com/watch?v=zP50Ewh31E4

Then it was general hipsterism. The good kind, the kind with sepia-toned contemporary lumberjacks
youtube.com/watch?v=Y66j_BUCBMY

Then it was general hipsterism. The bad kind, the kind with pretentious redditor pseudo-adults trying to bully you into liking their self image
youtube.com/watch?v=sO9cBXRcBvo

>Why is it so over the place?
They're struggling for some kind of core tenant to latch onto.

>Why is it different from other time periods
A truth you have to confront about living in the future is that things get less hard.
There's less struggle and there's less consequence.
And when there aren't things to surmount, there's less things that get created as a byproduct to deal with that timeline.

Society past the 1950s should be considered the most comfortable society that had ever existed to such a metric that you should basically just draw a line there and split history up into pre and post "1950s"
But still, there were characteristics about those time periods that made them hard to live in, or atleast specialized.
It's hard to be creative when nothing hard has ever happened in your life.

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>anyone who isn't "oppressed"
It's the Master/Slave dichotomy. Nietzsche was correct when he said that slave morality originates with the Jews.

the funny thing is, the 80s was also a soulless cash grab on all fronts. but it had the burgeoning sounds of disco and european electronica to influence its music for the better. it had cultural excess to inflate everything into WE NEED BIGGER AND BETTER territory. genres like horror and action adventure started to really come into their own. people weren't browbeaten yet by the unavoidable mediocrity that we're currently tangling with. people were dreamers. i really do think that people by and large just gave up, at least on a subconscious level.

This. Every decade has an entire feel that you can convey with like, a single song, color scheme, and person of interest. The 2010s memes went into full force and everyone was jumping ship from one thing to the next at a speed that's so fast that referencing anything from 2012 in 2013 feels like it was 20 years ago. Hell, look at Trump memes, not even politically, but look at all the smug boomers and it's so sickeningly tone deaf, I'm not sure you could capture the entire decade of 2010 without a straight hour and a half of cringing

Synthwave is the defining genre of the 2010s

It's not that they're struggling for some kind of core tenant, they're struggling for a core group of fans. There are no subcultures anymore so you just have to appeal to everyone.

Only a zoomer would think this is a worthy distinction or matters to anyone. The 2010s is redundant bullshit

While I want to agree, synthwave in general is this weird futurist nostalgia for a time that doesn't exist 20 years ago, but is also 20 years in the future. It's more of an ideal dream than it is representative of the time we live......I'm retarded it perfectly captures the attitude of how shitty the 2010s are, we miss the old days we weren't able to fully experience and look forward to a time that doesn't yet exist. Ignore me I'm drunk

I actually agree.

I’ve always wondered why 80s popular culture is so popular. I mean it’s been absolutely everywhere this entire decade. Is it because it is genuinely more appealing with its popular culture than other eras? Or is it because it’s easier for the media to exploit it since the era was already incredibly influenced by the free market and Reagan capitalism? The entire 80s aesthetic is like its own part of popular culture now, no other era has gotten that kind of nostalgia wanking

Why are all of your examples about the current state of things from 2016?

You are so full of shit and just admit you are a fucking zoomer. Your decade, that you seem so proud of, is garbage

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Close, but not quite.

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There has not been one good song posted in this thread. How do you zoomers cope with such mediocrity?

i stopped following eminem after Encore shit the bed, but his career really does seem to embody this thesis.

SSLP is 100% a struggling artist trying to find his footing as a white man in a black-dominated genre. struggling with drugs and shitty parenting and shitty baby mama drama. relying on his deep battle rap experience to fill in the gaps. you can sense his anger and desperation. Rock Bottom is bleak as fuck but yet so good.

MMLP is the polished version of this, a man who found his way into the Dr. Dre kingdom. someone struggling with drugs but now also success and what it means to be Marshall Mathers in a world hostile to his kind, who wants to tattoo a parental advisory warning on his forehead (ironically, the type of thing modern rappers are likely to do). it's a fucking masterpiece.

TES is where he starts to get soft. Dre produces fewer beats. he's more of a cartoon character now, like SSLP, but far less interesting because his problems are way out of our pay grade. he knows how to make catchy tunes, but the steam is escaping.

Encore et al, he's experimenting with his whiny fucking delivery and his rhyming patterns are much lazier than in the past, the content sucks, the hooks suck, it's a fucking mess. what does he have to complain about now? nothing.

Maybe, maybe not but it sure wouldn't have these clowns.

The 10's has the artists from the 90's and 00's still produce good music, with a lot of 1 hit wonders scattered around.

Nothing that's new has much staying power becuaee producers are looking for the easy no.1 hit cash in before moving onto the next one. Few artists have any long term career out of it apart from a select few that are really pushed by the music industry.

Yea I'm a literal 30 year old boomer and I thought the Nazi thing was just a big gag and anyone taking it seriously was retarded...but now I actually realize its not the case. I still think the threat is overblown, but there are young people who unironically worship Hitler because of shit they've read on the internet. Just like there are actual college communists who wrap themselves in the flag of a country that delighted in human suffering.

Its a bit incredible.

You're completely right.

I don't necessarily blame the people that were willed into this time period for being this way though.
Just like I don't blame conservatives in the 1950s for thinking that Rock and Roll was "the music of the devil" when you have Christian puritanism imbued into you from a young age and beaten into your head from every angle.

The most dangerous thing is not being able to think.

I read an article trying to convince me that I was racist for not liking the song Work by Rihanna becuase she was singing in Caribbean "creole"

I didn't even think about the fact that I had been listen to Rihanna for years (many of her songs of which had a Carribean flavor) and not once had the thought ever entered my head that I didn't like this person because they were "foreign"

Lots of pop music in the 2000s had a foreign twist to it.
No one gave a shit. No one thought about it. Because no one ever drew attention to it. You just had a musician from Jamaica and their music obviously had a Jamaican twist, they didn't constantly beat you over the head with it and try to convince you that you're morally obligated to like it.

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>i stopped following eminem after Encore shit the bed, but his career really does seem to embody this thesis
holy fuck you're such a fucking faggot

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It’s not possible to capture this decade so easy at all. 2011 is the complete opposite of 2019. They feel so far apart and yet they’re in the same decade. imo, 2013 was the year that the internet started to really pick up steam because social media was rapidly advancing, that’s when identity politics starting going over the edge and then finally everything erupted in 2015. It was just a period of 3 years but so much happened. I hate this shit

I'd say Synthwave, dubstep or memerap. But not fucking vaporwave lmao

im pretty sure the whole "chillwave" synth music has caught on because even the ADHD zoomers want to have something to balance out their scattered brains while they managed eight different conversations and their personal social media brand at the same time. its a subconscious longing some sort of rhythm and subtle pace in their lives. I cant stand the shit, I think its unlistenable, but I see why they like it. They are striving for calm.

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Everything you described can be summed up with this: Web 2.0

but it's gonna get better r-right?

You haven't read anything I've posted or you have and you somehow managed to take away the exact opposite of what I'm trying to say.

This decade is awful. It's sickening. I feel ill when I listen to a Post Malone song
I can barely comprehend only consuming the media that this time period has to produce and not going insane

Action movies were on fucking point. Men were allowed to be manly and got the girl, I think lots of kids and adults crave that attitude again. The cool drum machine synth sounds popular in movie sound tracks was cool. Personally I wish more movies functioned as a progression from that instead of this strange evolution of quipfests we got. It's why I think movies like drive, and hobo with a shotgun did so well. Very different movies from one another but still I think they're fitting movies to think of compared to the average action movies we get.

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Damn right it is

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no

We have to see to it that it does. We are the makers of the future. I'd like to see people separate from their devices and be kinder to each other, but I don't see it happening. We gotta try I guess...

I missed the internet pre-retardation.
The more people use something, the lower the IQ and the more exploited the service or good becomes.
Fucking disgusting, fucking hate retarded humans shitting up my free time.

>espousing ideas that don't really believe or understand,
t. enlightened centrist. This is the white male brain on reddit.

You should be defending your time period you dumb zoomie, you should think you're the best.

Fuck zoomers they're the worst.

shufflin' shufflin'

>2011 is the complete opposite of 2019
The same is true of a lot of decades. The culture of 1963 was vastly different from that of 1969.
Decades, like generations, don't work like pop sociologists says they do. It really is a massive meme.

No particular reason.

Perhaps that was a turning point.

Right you gaylords need a real song.
youtube.com/watch?v=ffFBdWBp0NE

>be kinder to each other
holy fuck you sound like such a faggot. mexican cartels and salvadorian gangbangers are literally decapitating people who oppose them, and your solution is to be kinder to each other. what a load of bullshit.

What ideology are you playing as today? How would it improve your life?

> Synthwave is the defining genre of the 2010s
This. But normies dont listen to it and there fore it doesnt exist. Big Labels arent pushing it and doubled down on Taylor swift / Hip / Reggaeton instead.The people making it have put more soul into it than anything else but are making peaunuts.

youtube.com/watch?v=fpCtor2ViSc

Im pretty sure its positive white people music and that just not allowed these days

‘easiness’ and ‘comfort’ don’t mean jack. the average quality of life for a european person was much higher in 1950 or even 1850 than it is now. the peak was probably 1950-1990 or so. now shit is much worse than before. ease of survival != ease of life. suicide rates should point you in that direction.

Fucking web 2.0

That's because life isn't fulfilling anymore. It's easy, but unfulfilling.

My solution to Mexican cartels is killing the illegals that cross over. I'm wishing that citizens were nicer to each other and not faggots who think just because you made eye contact that you "wanna go" go fuck yourself you stupid faggot. Holy shit the metropolitans can't eat nukes fast enough

Also, whatever you thought of it at the time, this latest obsession with identity politics is being pushed by corporations out of fear of another Occupy movement.

This is because you idolize whatever is popular to your older peers when you are 10-13 but you are still to young to participate. Then the artists become 40-50 they want to recreate through nostalgia googles. From 1970s happy days doing the 50s, to the 1990s tv show "that 70s show", and so on.
This will never end as it is a part of children and aging
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The 1980s weren’t coherent at the time, just certain things stick out 30 years later

I agree with everyone saying Synthwave is one of the bigger genres being listened to today, but probably by Extremely Online people and not necessarily the general public.

that said, i fucking love space ambient/psybient/whatever the fuck its called:

youtube.com/watch?v=-xj2BmxEkcI

But, if you actually read the thread, you'd realize that there's nothing nostalgic about this era. You might be able to get away with early 2000s, but once you hit 2007 or 2008, the game changes completely.

>killing the illegals that cross over
But that's racist!

You can still substantiate other decades under a broad definition though. You can’t do that with the 2010s. This will be known as the decade when shit hit the fan and capitalism expanded way too fast to keep up with on multiple levels

Big labels wouldn't push it because the majority of synthwave is instrumental, despite the fact there are really popular synthwave artists like Home, or Carpenter Brut.

It won't. The CCP will either stay in control, in which case culture will remain in a straitjacket, or it will collapse and take the entire country with it, because it's intertwined with every aspect of Chinese society.

Only a federal China could be both free and prosperous, but that would involve splitting the country, and probably means they would miss out on a 'Chinese Century'.

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Good

You can do edgy nostalga, it doesn’t have to be a romantic version, but also you are wrong, see my post here
It is never as coherent living through it as when people go back and try to write a history and pretend it was so obvious at the time, you are just retarded and don’t understand creative arts or humans, it’s okay, not every one does

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the past will be edited in the future to an approved version, and nostalgia may become a hateful and dangerous concept

Jackie Chan, and he's a total Chinese government shill too. But I think the blatant catering to China is a sign moreso than people watching Chinese movies. China has it right with copyright laws though. If brand are so fucking good they should be able to outclass knockoff shit instead of just getting money by virtue of LOGO

everything to be nostalgic of is bad. everything's so goddamn negative, or the "positive" stuff is superficial bullshit. what do we have?

>school shootings
>endless war
>housing crisis
>SJW jockeying
>a black president who didn't magically fix the world
>an "outsider" president who didn't magically fix the world
>the same 10 musical artists who have been around for 15 years
>a new version of the same electronic bullshit we buy every single year whether due to cultural force to stay on top of trends or planned obsolescence of devices
>a couple people own drones, cool
>the same fucking IPs that we were already sold 20-50 years ago
>fuccboi haircuts

am i missing the good things?

I think its just getting older. I'm noticing lately that I'm starting to have moments that I used to make fun of my dad for having when I was little. Where I reference an event that happened almost a decade ago but I act like it just hapoened at most a few years ago.

For fucks sake, Bernie Madoff and Kanye West interrupting Taylor Swift a fucking decade ago. I only know that because I looked up "significent events of 2009" but I would've sworn those had happened in just the last 5 or 6 years

Electronic music has been a clusterfuck in terms of what's 'big'. Late 00s-early 10s was pop DnB and dubstep, early-mid 10s was house and later on tech house and bassline. The last year or so we've had a jungle revival which fits with the whole 90s revival thing.
I find it interesting that more tradional genres like dnb and house had their revivals in line with huge increases in the supply of high quality MDMA, and later on weirder genres like tech house and bassline became more popular at the end of the mid-decade ket drought.

Was he always a chinese government shill?
I know he is now, but was he like that when doing shit like Police Story (1) ?

>Like just so unbelievably different.
It's called different music genres you fucking idiotic zoomer.

>edgy nostalgia
Like this?

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I bought my phone in 2014 and I'm not going to upgrade it until it breaks.

I’ve been lurking since about 2011 and one thing I can say about the future that doesn’t suck is that the capacity for genuine, thought-provoking discussions on this site has totally increased, while cynicism used to be the only flavor here. Maybe we evolved out of necessity.

House has been big since at least the 90s.

This
The Occupy movement was derailed by identity politics on purpose, it's no coincidence
They needed the masses to squabble among each other and ignore the real problem of how they're being fucked over

IMMA LET YOU FINISH

That's a very bleak outlook. That said I think much of 2010s is realizing that new enjoyable things exist while the old stuff still exists. I found some great movies and albums I love while still being able to enjoy the old stuff. Nostalgia for old shit is hardly unique but I think in the last decade more than anything I've learned that there's so many things from then that I missed, on top of so many new things now to enjoy.
Fuck if I know. He's harmless, it's not like he goes on tv and says "China is magical" dude has gone on record praising America for all the privileges it's given him, so I wouldn't worry too much

Lately the biggest subgenres of edm are shit like trap and future bass though because of people like Marshmello.

Jackie Chan!

But that broad definition is a still retrospective distortion. What we think of as the 60s is only representative of a relatively small population of people in a very restricted amount of time.
Generational science and seeing history through the prism of distinct decades is a fool's game and the height of humanity's propensity to see patterns in things that aren't truly there.

>ignore the real problem of how they're being fucked over
Whoa, cool it with the antisemitic remarks!

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Jackie Chan grew up in the British Empire and, as recent events have clearly shown, Hong Kong does not see itself as Chinese even today.

I kinda miss dubstep, it was fucking hilarious.

youtube.com/watch?v=sa42AW__3F0

There will be, but unlike for nostalgia for years before 2005 it will simply be rose tinted bullshit.

Starting in 2006 everything just started to suck, and it accelerated exponentially in devolution in 2011.

It had its original run from the early 80s to the early 90s but after that it was overtaken by jungle/dnb and trance. The 2000s right up to the end of the decade were dominated by band music. House had a revival in the early 2010s

There was only two good things about the 2010's.
Robotics and Virtual Reality technology.
It's actually scary how much robotics has progressed from 2010 until now, won't be long until Skynet :)

I think dubstep and the immediate sound I hear in my head is Skrillex BWAMP BWOMP

It was pretty much a win-win for (((you know who)))
>Centrists who knew nothing about it, and right wingers blow it off as whiny millenials
>Extreme leftists get to shit things up.

Skynet could exist right fucking now if you think of how rudimentary the original Terminator was.

I've had a pretty solid 2010s as well despite going through a divorce and rebuilding a career, but that said, it's hard for me to think of what culture at large will glom onto with their nostalgia goggles on. I guess if I had to suck it up and get real, 2010 nostalgia will be things like:

>i can order lunch while taking a shit
>finding strange to fuck without leaving the house['s bathroom]
>flinging birds at buildings and other such time-wasters
>ordering cars to pick up my drunk ass without leaving the bar['s bathroom]

But other than all the ways in which we can use our phones to make our lives easier, what else has happened that's new and interesting and totally not cynical, that people will look back on fondly?

literally not dubstep
youtu.be/G9H3i0T1iN4\
board relevant because this song was in children of men

I wasn't really thinking of America tbf, seems like it's just been the same old commercial EDM since the start of the decade with trap since 2013ish. Trap kinda moved over to the UK as well, a lot of new grime is more insipried by trap than the original garage inspired grime of the 2000s

>muh j00s
You retards are also being divided and conquered. The problem is not some specific ethnicity/social group, it's the structure of the current system. Read. And read REAL books, not that dogshit you just posted.

Replying with sarcastic drivel about me allegedly being a jew because I'm talking sense is not a rebuttal, btw.

Eh the T101 wasn't Skynet, that was just a robot Skynet made, a puppet designed to do one task. (Kill Sarah Connor)
Besides it looks human, and people are fooled by it.

okok maybe not the strict definition but anything with the insane ear raping shit became what dubstep was remembered as

youtube.com/watch?v=3fHzMI2IiZU

most synthwave sucks. it tries so hard to be "dude the '80s" but doesn't understand the decade or zeitgeist it wants to revive. the result is a weak and corny imitation, like people wearing a costume; in the case of the thumbnail of the song you posted, literally. it's all surface and memes that normalscum will immediately recognise, like that cringey "kung fury" thing, which is why all these synthwave acts sound the same. it's all so phony

Did Amazing Spiderman 2 kill dubstep?

>Soros funded millions into protests
>MUH J000000000S
Ok, buddy

thank the canadians and americans for that. dub should have never left the UK and germany

>. Maybe we evolved out of necessity.

What happened is we went from being comfy to realising that its now just about survival.

>GUYS DO YOU REMEMBER THAT TIME WE ALL REMEMBERED THE 80's?

You're not wrong. It's all very same-y in a non-80s way. It does nothing to drum up the feeling of 80s pop or the godfather of 80s electronica, Kraftwerk, or lots of other 80s genres which would lend themselves heartily to some good contemporary EDM.

>Read. And read REAL books.
It all points to the same direction. You're completely in denial if you think this group of people has never done anything wrong.
>Well, it has brought about the rise of what I call the Jewish Mafia in American letters. This is a clique of New York-oriented writers and critics who control much of the literary scene through the influence of the quarterlies and intellectual magazines. All these publications are Jewish-dominated and this particular coterie employs them to make or break writers by advancing or withholding attention. I don’t think there’s any conscious, sinister conspiracy on their part—just a determination to see that members of their particular clique rise to the top. Bernard Malamud and Saul Bellow and Philip Roth and Isaac Bashevis Singer and Norman Mailer are all fine writers, but they’re not the only writers in the country, as the Jewish literary Mafia would have us believe. I could give you a list of excellent writers, such as John Knowles and Vance Bourjaily and James Purdy and Donald Windham and Reynolds Price and James Leo Herlihy and Calder Willingham and John Hawkes and William Goyen; the odds are you haven’t heard of most of them, for the simple reason that the Jewish Mafia has systematically frozen them out of the literary scene. Now, mind you, I’m not against any particular group adhering to its own literary values and advancing its own favored authors; such cliques have always existed in American letters. I only object when any one particular group—and it could just as well be Southern, or Roman Catholic, or Marxist, or vegetarian—gets a strangle hold on American criticism and squeezes out anybody who doesn’t conform to its own standards. It’s fine to write about specifically Jewish problems, and it often makes valid and exciting literature—but the people who have other messages to convey, other styles and other backgrounds should also be given a chance.

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I hated dubstep from the start but that's pretty funny if it's true.
First it kills Spider-Man, next it kills Dubstep.
Did it also kill Andrew Garfield's career?

>dude just ignore the people at the top of that system lmao
moron

i'll shit on your terrible architecture and overabundance of bread stores all day, but the UK and Germany do in fact make some fucking great EDM.

Dilate

It’s like the free and open exchange of ideas sitting around the fire within the bomb shelter

if there was any justice in the world, this movie would've reinvigorated his career, unfortunately nobody will ever see it. for me, it's up there with A Cure For Wellness in the hidden gems category.

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i'm american. it's a fucking shame what my people have done the genre

youtu.be/QrRcEfulv3U

That's the point. Majority of synthwave isn't trying to emulate the popular music trends of the 80s, but the movie soundtracks of the time.

We're being divided because the Jews are effectively convincing you that FOR NO REASON AT ALL Hitler was elected and THE GERMAN PEOPLE WERE JUST MAGICALLY OKAY WITH A HOLOCAUST. people like you and me, normal fucking people who don't wish holocausts on people were thinking "ya know what, maybe it's not such a bad idea" alongside the what, 200 plus countries that also MAGICALLY DECIDED they didn't want any Jews in their country....fucking wake up dude. Why is noone even remotely concerned the number of Israeli dual citizens in American Congress or the deep connection Israel has to the last 30 fucking years of war in the middle East that is still costing the American tax payer.....I'm not saying all Israelies are bad people, but the nation of Israel is some shady fucking shit dude

quads of truth.

i'm also american and not a single one of our EDM artists will ever make a song like this:

youtube.com/watch?v=Z0XwOjSpdbc

i miss melodic breaks

youtube.com/watch?v=K40UNxv1JyA

>Akshually
No one cares.

The key to it all could simply be here. The failure of the Occupy Movement and the metastasization progressive stack (with its victimhood as epistemology) in to wider society and the backlash it engendered is what divides the hangover of the 00's from what belongs uniquely to the 10's. Decades are not cleanly divided units of culture, and things carry on over in to new decades for a few years before there is any definite cultural division. A good example would be Vanilla Ice and his Cool As Ice film, although brought up as a 90's kids punchline, everything about Vanilla Ice is steeped in the culture and fashion of the late 80's, which is why he so rapidly decline in relevance as the neon eyesore patterns of hip-house gave way to grimy realistic gangsta rap. Likewise the neon colours of scene kids with the "I don't give a fuck I just wanna get fucked up" attitudes of the mid to late 2000s gave way to a more sincere and muted new wave of toned down pop-punk at exactly the same time that the "Rules of The Internet" era web culture was overtaken by the, for want of a better word, "SJW" style, ever vigilant, policing of language and content.

I think there will definitely be early 2000s places films playing off nostalgia but i think many of them wont really focus on the 2010s specifically because this decade will be tainted for Hollywood forever by drumpf

is the system specifically working towards primarily jewish interest? or is their leading role due to in-group nepotism and ruthless ladder climbing practices within influential institutions?

>these are the subhumans you share this board with

this is some good shit

>Media and debates for Democrats weren't for a single second about how they can help the American people but WHO CAN BEAT DRUMPF
These retards need to restructure

wow great argument i love jewish elites now

I love Trentemoller. Lost and The Last Resort are phenomenal albums.

>The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you

Replying with sarcastic drivel about me allegedly being a subhuman because I'm talking sense is not a rebuttal, btw

Frig off Shapiro, your sisters got some fucking milkers on her

Only subhuman I see in these posts is you.

Killer kat is the better song.

youtube.com/watch?v=fbtmVdoUHsI

> trentemoeller

the trentmoeller chronicals defined 2007 for me... fucking based

i think jews are exploiting the system that was partly already there, and manipulating it and adding to it to suit their interests

I remember thinking during all the 60d nostalgia of the 2000s that the 80s where to boring and would never see the same revival kek.

Id say 2010s will be a big one. They’ll skip the 2000s. Just like the 1900s get ignored.

odd, i stopped posting on here from 2010-2014ish and when i came back it seemed to me like the discourse on here plummeted into a black hole. that could have just been the massive influx of election retards though.

like clockwork

keep listening to shitty music, i don't care. just call it by it's proper name

The music genres are emblematic of the culture, sir

And I'm the one knocking down zoomer culture. Do you even know what you're complaining about?

wow great argument i love jewish elites now

I'd blame goobergate more than the elections. Christ the amount of furries that came out of the woodwork....

Love this song, too.

Another great one, from a MOVIE, in a futile attempt to continually keep the thread relevant to Yea Forums:

youtube.com/watch?v=7aZyEThH__4

this gets talked about on here every now and then, but The Skin I Live In is another hidden gem as far as I'm concerned

Only clock I see in these posts is you.

Occupy Wall Street

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Frig off Shapiro, your sisters got some fucking milkers on her

The Reform Jews push the progressive multicultural agenda because Jews are only safe in societies where minority groups are tolerated. The Zionist Jews don't care about that stuff as long as AIPAC gets to influence foreign policy in the form of several billion dollars for America's greatest ally.

Before Dark culturally appropriated it I would say this song is peak 2010s musical kino

youtube.com/watch?v=CjP3VlbIfDA

Could you /pol/-posters go make a new thread, we're trying to have a fucking pop culture discussion here

youtube.com/watch?v=yCyZ8o1Hfd4

I don't listen to dubstep. It's just dumb to get upset over after all these years especially when it's dead and buried.

fpbp

you're mentally ill

>tfw gamergate was the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand that set the events of the latter half of the decade off
What did we do

Aww, the JIDF stooge is trying to use our memes. How Cute!

wow great argument i love jewish elites now

Orbital did a really good Doctor Who theme:

youtube.com/watch?v=g-WFRNO13IY

>2020 is next year
What do you think will be the big genre of the 2020s? I think it'll be synthwave.

Only mentally ill person I see in these posts are you.

youtube.com/watch?v=W81A1kTXPa4
you can see the moment the 2010s began here

unironically forgot we were on Yea Forums

Another of my favourites:

youtube.com/watch?v=PMXvqngQHzk

And an unrelated song but one I like nonetheless (It was on a bud advert years ago, that makes it Yea Forums related, right?):

youtube.com/watch?v=x5h-LAvQDCQ

The Occupy movement is so interesting mostly on account of how quickly it left the zeitgeist. I often forget it even happened which is the genius of the whole thing I suppose.

reminder kojima (among many others) predicted all this. we are actually all in for a very interesting time in the future as technology continues to change and influence society and we race against the clock to not ruin the planet while also managing our economic systems.

Nice never knew about this, I used to be a fan of Doctor Who before the writing, acting, direction, and the sets went downhill.

Fuck floff Shapiro, gimme Abigail's number you kike

Okay I've heard people say this a few times over the years about Kojima.
I've never played a Kojima game, where should I start?

I'm a Burgerstepper, but proto-Burgerstep circa 2010-2011

youtube.com/watch?v=FMLVfT1ckXQ

I'd forgive you for listening to Martin Garrix or something and thinking that it's emblematic of the genre. It very quickly started getting abused once people realized that it was good music to take MDMA to.

It's a very diverse genre. The only thing really inherent to it is the drum pattern or something.

Holy shit I forgot about that Asteroids Galaxy Tour song.

Can we all agree that this is top 5 best uses of a techno song in a movie:

youtube.com/watch?v=gHBhKbF2xMA

Snatcher, then mhs 1 then 3 then 2, then the msx games, then ghost Babel

MGS2 and 4 are the ones that go big into technology and sociopolitical commentary but you should just start with MGS1 and play them in release order.

top 3 uses in a top 3 film

I guarantee that bitch is a certified glow in the dark CIAnigger. Everybody knows the CIA infiltrated the movement.

original shitting on burgerstep guy. i am willing to admit that exactly two americans get the genre right
one is starkey
the other is:
youtu.be/qKEO-z25OvU

based
i'd pay to watch

Dude none of the stuff you are posting isnt terrible. Your generation is terrible.

This was from Yea Forums moved to Yea Forums, wasn't it? No wonder you're all overly long winded underaged druggie hipster faggots. Fucking kill yourselves niggers. Literally every other board has better taste in music than you guys. Bottom of the barrel faggots.

wow great argument i love jewish elites now

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for me it was always the trentemoeller remix of "go"

youtube.com/watch?v=cNf8lqOgv4U

Yea Forums always has better music discussion than Yea Forums

Yea Forums is the worst board on Yea Forums

It wasn't actually no, 98% of these songs are terrible, i'm ashamed of Yea Forums

Yes, sir, that's the point
Are the same person that keeps saying this or are there multiple people that just hear the word "zoomer" and don't even parse the fact that I'm saying that this generation is bad?

I will fucking square up on you if you say that Mt. Eden isn't good music, though

things don't get moved to Yea Forums, only from Yea Forums

Can anyone name one good thing the CIA has done?
Seems like nothing but a pit of evil. Nothing but detrimental for America and the world
Imagine a world without the CIA

>that white guy says "hey wait a minute" and gets shouted down
cultmarx is a nightmare

nothing is comfier 2010s electronic than Burial

youtube.com/watch?v=sYOkaOU1T0U

In general, board related topics are better on different boards. Yea Forums has better TV threads, /pol/ is a better Yea Forums than Yea Forums and so on.

What? Wtf does me pointing out you're all onions faggots have to do with the JIDF poster? I fucking hate kikes too. Your board absolutely sucks Jew artist cocks and literally SEETHES at most classical threads or opera relating to it. Literally group together and hate the most pure music while appreciating the most normie dogshit. It's like the board isn't even connected to this site. Like it's some fucking social media related site.

Killing JFK seemed pretty based. Introducing cracks to blacks was pretty based. 9/11 was pretty cool

No, they do. I've seen 3 Yea Forums threads get moved to here and once a /pol/ thread moved to here.

i can't listen to burial without entering a deep, months long depressive episode, so yeah, it might be some of the best music ever made

youtu.be/5pUzsJ-MYiI
I can't believe this was the internet in the late 2000s

alright chief, if this is more your speed, here's a fantastic classical song:

youtube.com/watch?v=LdH1hSWGFGU

would be very well used in a MOVIE. too bad most movies use the same 10 songs, like Mars, The Bringer of War and, in the 90s, Flight of the Bumblebee.

OP is asking a question about films you brainlet

the 10s are just an extension of the hypercommercialism that emerged in the 80s so there's really nothing that makes it unique or worth remembering.

Put Pinochet in power.

Would you say that the 10s went through a sort of...Hypernormalization?

Thanks. Here's some kino back at ya
youtu.be/PurDmGweGJo

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There were few 90s nostalgia movies and almost no 00's nostalgia movie.

You need to read to Baudrillard, we've been living on the state of post-orgy since the 90s, you can't realize because ou didn't see the beginning of this, it's not the same, but it's not new at all, it's just a repetition but with an exageration,, it's all performative without any real true maning behind
Seriously, we've been living in a Simulacra but not an artificial one unrelated to reality like a videogame: we've turned our reality INTO a videogame, we've infused those rules (and absence of rules) into life itself producing an hyperreality
But without nothing new, so some people (specially +30s) percieve it like everything is just the same, or a copy of a copy of a copy,

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You're an idiot.

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1. The op is literally talking about films 2. Yea Forums doesn't like synthwave

youtube.com/watch?v=sCzJQRVbWtE

a truly exquisite release. both songs are tear inducing

the total infiltration of technology to all levels of society is supremely interesting. it is what allowed everything else to find such fertile ground. most of it is mass media propaganda sure but we are well on the way to being a total information society. the problem is education on how technology is affecting us, how it will likely affect us in the future, and how to deal with propaganda being targeted to our behavioral patterns and tastes by algorithms is sorely lacking.
good post, need to get to this on my list of stuff.

Nope.

What is there to be nostalgic about? CGI capeshit? Gonna age like dogshit.

go to bed adam curtis

So then Yea Forums, which version is better?

youtube.com/watch?v=giPAoHK6zLk

or

youtube.com/watch?v=pPD8Ja64mRU

The big change happened after the 2012 election.

cool

I think you mean the end of the Mayan calendar

>Post-post-postmodernism
I have heard that the genre era or whatever after post-modernism is maximalism. But that is usually in reference to literature since modernism was the 1930/40s and then post-modernism started around the 50s/60s.

>literally make like 95% of household consumer goods and various sundry goods.
>"guyz it's alright because their movies suck"

>and how to deal with propaganda being targeted to our behavioral patterns and tastes by algorithms is sorely lacking.
You deal with this by possessing a modicum of self-control and intelligence.

which at least 80% of the population does not have

it's incredibly insidious. ought to be wary of manipulation always. the professional mindfuckers understand psychology and symbolism and how to weaponize it very effectively.

of course, but it still needs to be part of a general education.i've seen plenty of otherwise intelligent people lack critical thinking when it comes to technology and how things are presented to us.

>if it's not on tv it's not real
i feel sorry for this chap, he can't tell reality from what happens on a movie screen

How is that philosophical?

literally only your opinion, because you don't go out and have fun and sex

Actually, the essence of 2010 is witch house
youtube.com/watch?v=fHiO2HTGUcA
It's probably the first genre to be defined by internet collective consciousness

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dumb people think wordy posts are more meaningful than short posts

I just started dipping into this

youtu.be/6xMmTkfg5XU

Zoomers born 1998 onward like are already getting nostalgic for the 2010s

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this thread has more pseuds than any I've seen before.

>>Yea Forums

But, if you actually read the thread, you'd realize that there's nothing nostalgic about that era. You might be able to get away with early 60s, but once you hit 1970 or 1971, the game changes completely.

>the 1980s was the worst period of time that ever existed
Yeah if you were black.

>muh soft power

sad but true .... fp is indeed bp

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no it's trap you fedoralord

PARTY ROCKERS IN THE HOUSE TONIGHT

>movie set in 2008
>BLACK DRESS WITH THE TIGHTS UNDERNEATH

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reading that rigjt now for a film essay lad. interesting stuff

the fuck are you on about?
fucking this also the selena gomez video looks like unfaithful by Rihanna and that shit was like 06 or something

WAITING FOR THE DAY OF THE ROPE

>be kinder to each othe
The only people who give a fuck about "kindness" and all that gay shit are W*ites and we're getting cucked out of existence. You really think the kikes and niggers wanna be nice to us? Fuck no, they're psychopaths and we should be double and triple psychos to compete with them. Fuck 'em all, there's no chance for peace.
REOPEN THE CAMPS RIGHT NOW.

all migrant shits should get decapitated in public

These songs are shit.

*European history.
The ch*nks will live and thrive for thousands of years, if we fail.

>you managed to destroy most of the planet and its various cultures
if we die you're going with us, cocksuckers

Confirmed zoomer. That shit is the same

>different
A nigger talking fast over a computer generated beat. God I hate zoomers

>This. But normies dont listen to it

Because they demand sex ape music, not futuristic synthetic beats.

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youtube.com/watch?v=JvMXVHVr72A

This is peak 2010's music

You are so full of yourself that it's making me physically ill

lmao it's soulless shit for nerds thats why no one likes it you retard. How is it that you fucking morons feel persecuted in every single thing?

>no one likes my shitty video game music because im white
lmao jesus christ

No. That’s bullshit leftists say in a vain attempt to distance themselves from
the beast they have created. Socialism is not mutually exclusive to left-leaning idpol, and is always a hair away from it at any given time. Why would corporations promote something that will lead many of its adherents either straight into, or gradually into anti-corporate, anti-capitalist thought if it were deliberately a campaign against OWS?

it's less of a takeover and more of an invasion, they just replace local people with chinese citizens instead ans slowly take over areas until they become unofficial chinatown- canada and australia are perfect examples of what are essentially new colonies, they buy up land and build huge apartment buildings then sell them exclusively to chinese citizens who because they want stuff from their homeland despite living in another country which leads to expansions of restaurants, "traditional medicine", tea places, more real estate companies, etc etc etc.
t. seen it happen in real time

>a decade that had nothing special or unique about it
>it's just a mishmash of other styles from previous decades due to nostalgia being big selling commodity

>what 10s will be remembered as
Dark but colorful flicks like the ones Refn pops out
>what 10s actually were
Wemen ruining everything

Early 90's also saw a recession under Bush senior

>ITS ALL ABOUT ME
>HOW DOES IT BENEFIT MEEEEEEEE

literal cuck.
the degeneracy must be counteracted, no matter how edgy the means

>a decade that had nothing special or unique about it
That's how I know you're underage. Everyone thinks that until the decade is over and done with. 00s felt bland as well but now there's a very coherent 00s image as the pastel colored kind and soft vanilla decade. 10s will probably be remembered with bright colors on dark backdrops with a kind of acid aesthetic from witchhouse and that sort of shit.

Our "end of history" is probably the one though. Overpopulation and the rise of living standards in places that have historically been shitholes is what's going to put us over the edge. Imagine every pajeet wanting a car and chinks wanting to eat beef for every meal.

Don't talk to me, you dumb child.

why would you care about someone who immensely dissapointed you?

>Nazis
>Catholics
>right

>Why would corporations promote something that will lead many of its adherents either straight into, or gradually into anti-corporate, anti-capitalist
It won't lead to that. "Leftism" has been co-opted by corporations because it's profitable, reduced to changing your twitter avatar to a gay flag, and any anti-capitalism is stripped away or at least modified to "some corporations are good".

Jud

I was born in 87 and had my childhood be the 90's and teen years the 2000's. There nothing from the past 9 years of this decade that stands out as being very 2010's. Everything is popculture caved in on itself.

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there will be people posting on the extranet praising the star trek reboots, the star wars sequels, the predator reboot, the terminator reboot

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This

/thread

>all this talk about pop music
>mfw 28 going to the bar and not knowing or liking any of the songs playing
>i'll never hear my favourite songs playing at the bar as I dance ever again like when I was 21

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I was born in 1997, which means I have the same relationship with the 2000s and 2010s that you have with the 90s and 2000s, I feel as though 2010-2012 is pretty removed from now. I consider that the Jersey Shore/dubstep/Beavis and Butthead revival era, sort of like a continuation of the late 2000s in mant ways. Everything after that is more or less the same. I mean, the only difference between 2013 and now is that there was less racial tension and lgbt/metoo nonsense going on

>Will there be 2010s nostalgia films in the future?
The past will be too problematic to portray.

the venerable Google-Alibaba Megacorporation would like to remind the citizens of northern Mexico that holovids and archived digital films containing refernces to the failed state of America are to be deleted using proper deletion methods. any citizen caught with their biochips still having trace data from said files will be held for questioning
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古老的Google-Alibaba Megacorporation希望提醒墨西哥北部的公民,使用適當的刪除方法刪除包含對失敗的美國國家的參考的全息圖和存檔的數字電影。任何被他們的生物芯片捕獲的公民仍然有來自所述文件的痕跡數據將被舉行審問

>80s
>worst time
neck yourself zoomer fag

OWS was infiltrated by a mutual collaboration between the FBI and various corporate interests. They are on recorded as having been meeting with wall street types in joint-councils a month prior to the protests even beginning. Not to mention that Ad-Busters, the original organisers of. OWS are the benefactors of money from groups like the open society and gates foundation. So from the very beginning it was a not wholly organic movement with connections, among its organisers, to the feds and the very people it was ostensibly protesting.

To answer your question, as to why corporations and whoever-else would support something like OWS, even covertly, is because left-liberalism has, in America at least, historically been used as a means to create a kind of containment cell used neuter the threat of Marxism, with its focus on class, and other radical left ideologies. A prime example of this was the CIA throwing their support behind Gloria Steinem and her brand of liberal-compatible feminism when they were concerned about the rise of Marxist Feminism with ties to, or support from, the soviets. Identity politics, the progressive stack, whatever you would like to call it has the dual use of 1. undermining solidarity and class consciousness among potential allies as they degenerate in to oppression Olympics fuelled in-fighting, and 2. Encouraging the development of narcissistic identity-as-activism mindsets that can then be marketed to and profited off after the threat is neutralised.

The American Government has been practising full spectrum control over any opposition to their power for a long time now, it is not simply unique to the left but, rather, the exact same reason it is not uncommon for feds to be found in even small town far right and neo-nazi groups. The FBI has been caught out a couple of times even trying to guide/encourage such groups down the path toward domestic terrorism so that they have a reason to but them behind bars.

Never mind the fact that Sean Paul carribean dancehall legend won like a bunch of awards with multiple platinums back in the early 2000s. The algorithm saw more people got upset when you called them racist and that got a bunch of money so that was the angle everything went.

you can tell when the kiddos woke back up by looking at timcodes...

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Not an answer faggot.
t. a literal retard

>Not an answer
it literally is, homosexual. it doesn't benefit me personally, it's meant to benefit society at large like any political ideology.

Hypocrite.

You're full of shit and up your own ass. You're so caught up in this generic age, that you overanalyze miniscule and arbitrary differences in style. Also the 80s had their big comeback in the 2000s and it was way bigger and decade-defining than the 90s comeback in the 2010s.

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its sadder when you know two of these people were faking the "friends" angle by the end

You're such a typical 21-year old college fag. You think you have it all figured out and have something to say, but you sound like a teenager to anyone above >25.

>t. zoomer who recently started thinking about stuff

It's new and fascinating information for you, so you want to educate the world about it. However you're too young and too ignorant to realize how much more you don't know and that anyone with half a brain has already contemplated this shit.

What's your ideology faggot?

youtube.com/watch?v=Eo-KmOd3i7s

youtube.com/watch?v=iP6XpLQM2Cs

All you people complaining about how music changed drastically between 2010 and now don't remember the past 20 years very well

Either "everyone fucks off" or "everyone does what I say". The second is more suited at dealing with the sheer number of the human animal in our times although the first option is ideal.
Basically, I think that the thing we have going on now is pretty much perfect. Everyone is a mindless drone, they do what they're supposed to and the opposition is hated by them. All I'd do is switch out their propaganda for mine and sit on my ass collecting dollars of off the system that works best.