Star Trek is such bullshit. Why is the female hot and sexy but the male ugly and stupid looking for a species? Dropped

Attractiveness is a social construct. That man is extremely handsome by the standard of his species. Stop being a bigot and forcing your neo-colonialist white western beauty standards onto others.

neither of them is attractive but he's super ugg

Because he could transform into a giant vibrating dick, honk.

Odo couldn't fix his play-doh face but apparently 7-8 shape changers on Earth could.

They are, the first Sisko was replaced at the end of Season 3. Its the Trek version of Bigger Luke.

OP reminds me of this guy I'd see occasionally when I was dating a little cutie in college (I'm pretty chubby, under 6' and no money). He gave me the strangest glare I've ever seen, so any time we walked by I'd tussle her hair or kiss her on the cheek just to fuck with him. Pretty sure he sent her flowers but I told her to keep them as he was as threatening as Shinji from Eva. I didn't even go to school there.

This sounds like a joke, but Mad Sisko is infinitely more awesome than the bright-eyed straight-edged Sisko from seasons 1-3. His decent into madness is one of my favorite things from the series.

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What a strange story to tell.

>sci fi tv series
>aliens are just humans with some lines on their forehead

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Bajorans do the last name, first name thing, that's kinda alien

Don't forget about the ear rings.

>this level of damage control
Absolute state of DS9fags

user, let's fuck

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Most changelings are millions of years old so odo is like a baby.

Probably my only real complaint about star trek.
At least there's an in universe explaination tho, so that makes it a little better.

>>aliens are just humans with some lines on their forehead
They actually explained that in Babylon 5. Originally they wanted tons of weird looking aliens. Eventually they realized doing that cost too much so they resorted to just doing humans with face makeup.

in Star Trek they explained it that one of the first species in the galaxy seeded the galaxy with their DNA thus creating most of the species that resemble them.

Odo is pretty freaky to be honest.

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Look at this

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Terry is so pretty

>Read harder.
I WONT!!!!! I WON'T I WONT I WONNNNTTTTTTT

That was a great character arc

Cardassians are sexy. Bajorans are dirty peasants.

you WIIILLLLLLLL shut up

Odo has a 2 foot dock thick as a pringle can

>Cardassians are sexy.
Would've totally tapped Tracy Scoggins when she played a Cardassian.

Picard is tired of your fagotry

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The Japanese do it too.

Do you have any evidence they aren't also aliens?

>Do you have any evidence they aren't also aliens?
If any race are aliens on this planet, it's Whites. No other people can compare and "Aryan" is sometimes translated as "Children of the Sun."

ay yo where vf at

I saw him making a discord on Yea Forums. Hopefully he's banned now.

>being a Changeling and not choosing to be a cute girl

>It's a Neelix episode

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we got abandoned

Was Voyager really so bad?

but then why does the female changeling that runs the dominion war effort have the same dumb play doh face? In that one episode where they meet themselves 200 something years in the future on the planet of their descendants odo looks exactly like rene auberjonois and explains it as if he had a lot of time to practice. Wouldn't the changeling in charge of the war in the alpha quadrant be much older than him? Only thing about ds9 that really triggers me.

Despite their bullshit, it's generally accepted that the "Odo" face is more or less their previous solid humanoid form.

They chose similar faces to make him feel comfortable.

>but then why does the female changeling that runs the dominion war effort have the same dumb play doh face?
Because that's what their race looks like in its solid form.

> In that one episode where they meet themselves 200 something years in the future on the planet of their descendants odo looks exactly like rene auberjonois and explains it as if he had a lot of time to practice.
Odo was never comfortable with looking like that and he also didn't know there were other changelings.

They changed the way Trill looked just because of how pretty she was. They didn't want to cover her up in prosthetics

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>it's generally accepted that the "Odo" face is more or less their previous solid humanoid form
Sounds like your personal headcanon

>And The Founders are all weirdly clay faced because they wanted to imitate Odo, and he's a shitty shapeshifter.
really? is it established in an episode? started watching ds9, but not in order.

>but not in order.
What the fuck are you doing?

Where's Jess?

Yes. Odo establishes very early on that he's a bad shapshifter and can't do faces. Then when he meets the other shapshifters they come out of the great link formless and take a shape familiar to him. It's not outright stated until later during the Dominion War.

Cleaning up my mess

>neither of them is attractive
>implying Nana Vistitor isn't fine as fuck
It's like you don't like tight abs and thick asses.

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They also based Dax's appearance on Famke Janssen from "A Perfect Mate". Famke turned down the Dax role

>Was Voyager really so bad?
Yes.

>Odo was never comfortable with looking like that and he also didn't know there were other changelings.
In a later episode, Odo and Kira get trapped in a time-dilation field on a planet and Odo ages 40+ years. During that episode Odo explains that he's had years of practice and can now do faces and the actor doesn't wear prosthetics.

Did you spill your macchiato?

they pretty much are though

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Just finished Enterprise and the final was pretty disappointing except for this moment.

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Honestly why couldn't they replicate a ship?

I understand they can't replicate certain things like fuel, warp coils, etc. But why not like 90% of the ship?

>but then why does the female changeling that runs the dominion war effort have the same dumb play doh face?
One of the Wylans asks her that question in a later episode and she states that they do it because they really want Odo back and the play doh face makes them look like family.

>In that one episode where they meet themselves 200 something years in the future on the planet of their descendants odo looks exactly like rene auberjonois and explains it as if he had a lot of time to practice.
Changlings also replace many members of Starfleet during the Dominion War. They CAN do perfect imitations. Hell, Kirk and Mckoy meet a changling that imitates Kirk in Star Trek 4 The Quest for Peace.
>Wouldn't the changeling in charge of the war in the alpha quadrant be much older than him?
Oh yeah. They're not millions of years old, but certainly thousands. They're all part of a super organism, the Great Link, and when separated they develop individual consciousness.

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Wh-what? Who is "they" and who says they couldn't?

The shapshifters/The Founders.

Honestly, the reason they can't make a ship is likely just the physical stresses would be too much. While they have no problem imitating a wine bottle or table, and can easily take on the form and power of a gorilla, making something capable of withstanding the insane forces associated with FTL space travel would be an entirely different thing. The energy they use to transform comes from subspace, so there's also a chance that there's a hard limit to either the amount or bandwidth of energy than can pull from there.

Laas in Chimera shifted into a life form that lives in space. We don't actually see him do FTL, but he presumably does since he's able to travel to the Bajoran solar system.

You should therefore assume that Founders can do FTL on their own, without spaceships. It might be difficult or tiring though.

Yeah, that's Sisko 1.5, a Tuvix-style hybrid of Sisko 1 and Sisko 2.

>Laas in Chimera shifted into a life form that lives in space.
I totally forgot about that! You're right. I suppose the answer then may be that Laas possessed knowledge or power that the other Founders didn't. Otherwise, they'd have no reason at all not have been shapshifting into undefeatable armadas of living ships.

We've seen what happens if you shoot a Founder with a phaser. It's not pretty. They're not invulnerable.

Turning themselves into ships would just make them bigger targets. It's better to hide inside ships, which have armor and shields.

They did Enterprise dirty with that final episode. I heard Scott Bakula let his anger loose on Braga because of that shit they pulled inserting TNG.

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That's a really good point. Presumably though, IF a Founder could create a body that could withstand the stress of FTL travel (and I think you're right that Laas must) then that body would likely be able to resist phaser weapons. It seems more likely that the creators/writers simply didn't think about it and that if the plot needed it a Founder could become a warship. I'm sure there's a long, detailed post on Memory Alpha about why that can't happen, but Founders can imitate functional 24th Century quantum computers, comms badges, and shield projectors, so I assume anything is possible.

It really isn't necessary, because the Dominion pumps out ships from their shipyards faster than anyone else.

They deserved it

Op here, why are you autists still posting? I originally thought they were the same species, turns out I was wrong.

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Fuck off, knifear

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Don't worry, my fanfic has them become the same species after Kira is transformed into a shapeshifter.

I heard you and Kevin are getting a divorce. What happened?

True. It makes sense if you think about the logical evolution of the Dominion. They wanted to hide so it's only logical that after the Founders engineered multiple slave races they'd also go to the trouble of designing actual ships for them. I'm sure that originally the Founders used nothing but biotech.

I had to stop watching DS9 after Ezri replaces Jadzia.

If you weren't watching it for Kira's sweet ass you were doing it wrong, user.

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I managed to resist Kira (except alternate universe Kira) but seeing Ezri's monroe beauty mark breaks me.

>alternate universe Kira

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>she sees your penis

Cardassian Kira is best Kira

All Kiras are the best Kiras.

But Ezri is cute.

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Wrong

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>Attractiveness is a social construct
Social constructs can only exist within the society
Attractiveness cannot be a social construct because it's just your own opinion

Fuck Kliggers
Fuck Bajiggers
Fuck Triggers
Fuck Boliggers
Fuck Betaziggers
Fuck Humiggers.
Fuck Jannies
Fuck Niggers
and
HAIL CARDASSIA

Attractiveness is an opinion, but standards of beauty are very much social constructs.

Society is a biological construct.

why the fuck do they even bother using transporters when half the time it either sends them to another universe, sends them back in time, fucks them up beyond repair or gets people stuck as data patterns

same reason you ride in a car or airplane

Why do people use elevators when they're always getting trapped on them or the cable snaps and they fall to their deaths?

>half the time
There are trillions of lifeforms using transporter tech in the 24th Century, each using that tech countless times. Statistically, transporter tech is very, very safe. Boring, but safe.

What we see are the nonboring fuck ups.

So hard to finish an episode without jerking it to her.

Why do they have to go to the transporter room to use it? But then they don’t?

Remember that scene from the motion picture? I think the possibility of that would be enough to turn me off transporters forever. At least I wont be turned inside out if an elevator cable snaps.

how does transporter even magically beam you from somewhere? like i would understand if transporters would beam from transporter room on the ship to transporter room on a planet but how the fuck do they beam people up from planets? it makes no sense

>Why is the female and sexy but the male ugly and stupid looking for a species?
>for a species
>singular

You did though. You didnt type "for every species" or "for each species", you associated them through a singular group.

I'm thinking it's about using directed energy beams. Something like hitting one beam with another to force the energy in that beam to begin "falling" from an excited energy state into a matter state again. I know it's not wormholes because that would be instantaneous and require INSANE power even for Trek. So it's likely targeting energy beams in precisely the correct place to spontaneously generate subatomic matter "rebuilding" the transported object.

Yeah.

>I heard Scott Bakula let his anger loose on Braga because of that shit they pulled inserting TNG.
Good, he fucking deserved it. Enterprise sounded like shit from the get-go, and yet somehow, mostly thanks to the actors bringing life to the characters, managed to make it a watchable show. It was such shit to put that TNG bullshit in there.

Remember when Nog was Kazon?

I can see what they meant.

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Ugh, fuckin' terrible.

Thing is, it would have been worlds better if it had been an older Riker on the Titan rather than placing it into a TNG episode.

>Thing is, it would have been worlds better if it had been an older Riker
No it wouldn't have, it would have still been shit. Why the fuck would you sideline the cast of an entire show for their series finale?

Some games actually do this. Like the female goblins in WoW being "pretty" while the male ones are more monstrous.

I only watch Sci Fi that's in HD.

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Best captains, prove me wrong

Best shows also.

>tfw cbs will never foot the bill to convert DS9 to high def.

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Good i saw those HD scenes from the documentary and it looked like ass.

>TOS, TNG, ENT will live on
>DS9, VOY will fade away
No one is going to watch tiny resolution super dark sets DS9 in 2050

had the best musical score of any series