Just watched this... Holy fuck at the visuals & aesthetics, but what the actual shit did it all mean?

Just watched this... Holy fuck at the visuals & aesthetics, but what the actual shit did it all mean?

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>DUDE SOMATIZATION LMAO

fuck cronenberg, he was always a hack

Point at this pleb and laugh everybody!

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No

Cringy nigger

have sex

Cronenberg himself is embarassed by his edgy gory movies in his early career.

crash was amazing though

what about eXiztenZ? that was the last weird one he made. after that he started oscar baiting hard. although he kind of escaped the scifi/horror genre that wes craven could never do

Stop watching TV, also masturbating

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>oscar baiting hard
You obviously don't know what you are talking about.

If that's true, it explains the boring, superficial garbage of his later career.

sorry i hit a nerve, just a terse observation. i really liked spider

What i dont get is why did he have sex with that woman if she was already on the tape?

Name of his later films that could be considered oscar bait.

>what the actual shit did it all mean
it was pretty straight forward, user... Just ask yourself what "the new flesh" actually is

that weird incest one about hollywood. it was good, but very 'give me an oscar' in the same way la la land was

Yes the one that shits all over Hollywood contains incest and other shit is very La La Land.

Who cares what Cronenberg thinks, lmao. It's a good movie.

Shivers is embarassing but Rabid is a good film though.
The scene in the porno theater is some horror kino
fucking climax where the boyfriend finally catches up with the girl is pretty memorable too.

eXistenZ is kind of a dumpster fire but it's beloved. Such an amazing ensemble and so much wasted potential on a really non-thing. By 99 virtual reality as a concept was played out, nobody left alive was buying the hype on such a retarded idea.

I feel like this movie isn't relevant anymore not because its vhs themed with tube tvs but because popular attitudes towards media have changed so much

when this film was made there was still a lot of hysteria that pornos and gorey films could really change people into monsters, and that's what the videodrome is in the film, a negative brainwashing signal.
the struggle of the film is to separate the screen world from the real world because the two are becoming horrifically joined.

In the modern world though people just accept twitter and pornhub as reality which is not what the film or anyone anticipated. People read some shitpost even on Yea Forums and 9/10 anons take it 100% seriously like its just an extensions of real life.

the whole debate about what's real and what isn't is over in the public space, normies just think everything they see on a screen is real.

yeah we're way past that revolution, it's a great surrealistic take on actual historical attitudes though.

Not him, but I never knew, actually. What is is?

Source?

So then we didn't win, the signal won. We just don't "all" go on mass rampages.

Then why did he do those films for nearly 20 years?

The Jung/Freud biopic

My favourite take away is that you can become practically immortal once you’re on television.

let me rephrase this:
1980s is the time of fearing that the monsters in the screen are going to escape from a place of unreality, through the screen and into reality
2020s is the time where people feel that the screen is just a mirror or a window onto more reality, not "from beyond"

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Fair enough, though I remember so much stupid shit growing up in the 90s with people complaining about violence and stuff in tv (which brought about the TV rating system), video games (another rating system), movies (already had one), and music (added parental advisory logos).

I love eXistenZ, but it's not a great movie. It does a great job of being video gamey but sometimes I think it's by accident because of the wooden performances most of the cast give.

>was embarrassed that he added a sequence in his earlier film involving naked children on leashes being toted around by elderly men
Huh, really? Woah. Almost like he aged up half the characters in Naked Lunch for a fucking reason. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out when a director loses their fucking balls for business.
We became the new flesh, AFK no longer exists.
We traded in those fads for different ones. People never ever stop complaining or sensationalizing. The horrific reality is we've probably become desensitized to sensationalism.

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I'm not sure what "works" as a metaphorical portal to hell anymore.
"Event Horizon" is the last time I thought I was watching something that bought the idea that demons could creep through from another dimension.
The current trend is just like, it comes at night, bird box, a quiet place etc... Its just the apocalypse for some reason or the reason is stupid (aliens invaded)

youtu.be/8A3vSRcSodM

Say what you want about slow burns but The Witch did that perfectly. From a narrative perspective the slow corruption of the family and the introduction of "Satan" was done flawlessly. They really should have advertised it as a drama, not a horror/thriller.

I'll give that one a try in a few years, see if it passes the test of time so speak.

I can't see how it wouldn't considering it's a period piece. Not like the references to blood letting or selling your daughter for rabbit meat are going to be less or more relevant in the next 20~ years.

Max is picked by Spectacular Optics to be a fall guy for them; they want his cable station to be the first broadcast point for the Videodrome signal, knowing the type of audience he's already established with his sleazy programming choices.
So they feed him the signal using their plant, Harland, then program him to assassinate his co-owners at the station, and then Bianca O'Blivion, who is the only person outside of Spec Ops (get it?) who knows how the Videodrome signal works.
But Bianca anticipates Max's assassination attempt, and is able to reprogram him to assassinate Barry Convex, head of the Videodrome project, and then to kill himself.
as far as which details in the process of that happening are real and which are Max's hallucinations, it's difficult to tell. I think Max simply used a regular gun, the one from his apartment, to shoot his partners, Harland, Barry, and himself.

>Vhs or beta?
Imagine unironically not having both