What did the green goblin symbolise?

>Rival company gets blown up
>Somehow they get enough money to buy out Oscorp

hmmmmm

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fuck you wasp bumblebee framed you for a reason

The horrible effects of zyklon b in the same vein as Godzilla that represents the devastating effects of dropping nuclear bombs on civilians.

The primal human desire to go back to formula.

Niggers

The real answer is a negative father figure. Uncle Ben was the christlike martyr who died to teach Peter our hero compassion, and Osborn was this rich guy who literally took on toxin and started spreading it, and planned to influence Peter to be his evil apprentice. Uncle Ben is a modest poor man who suffers gladly and pays the ultimate price to help his son at his worse, while Norman Osborn is a rich autocrat who transforms himself into a monster on purpose the first moment things don't go his way, and who resents his son who is trying his best. At the end of the movie, Norman offers to be Peter's new father, and Peter rejects, completing the arc that began when Peter told Uncle Ben he was not his father.
It's actual kino

>The primal human desire to go back to formula.
What an elegant and unique concept. Anywhere I can read about this?

Back to formula

GG. It was an RTS reference

YOU TOUCHING YOURSELF AT NIGHT.

BACK TO FORMULA????

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Both MJ and Norman represent Peter's internal moral struggle to decide whether or not to tell Harry.

Why did this age better than Batman Begins despite being 3 years younger

Peter also cant tell him without exposing his identity as spider-man

It is on the surface a more sillier movie, but it retains an emotional sincerity missing from film today. The dramatic sincerities fed from Batman Begins are still aplenty today, but few superhero movies care to portray their superheroes as normal, relatable people, as all of their personal life scenes are turned comedic.

BB takes itself way too seriously and doesn't emotionally resonate

Better villain. Nothing interesting about some nerd wearing a burlap sack gassing people.

JEWS

It's interesting that basically everyone in Harry's life is actively involved in lying to him. It's no wonder he turned into a burnout surfer guy with a busted face.

finally someone said it

Just so you don't feel your effort went to waste, know that I read your post and it made me think

He didn’t frame Wasp, he was just a dumbass who outed the wrong guy. The Elite Guard ran a very shit internal investigation as well cause it was so obviously Longarm.

Same, I've read too much cape discussion in my life and I haven't heard this read before and it's a great one

THAT DEMONIC NOSE

9/11

fuck Wasp though

>completing the arc that began when Peter told Uncle Ben he was not his father.

man, that scene always got me.

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i used to think my life was a tragedy

now i realize... it's a comedy

Good post user. Take this comic

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you can see it here:
youtube.com/watch?v=VcTzMM0fwZo

nice take

aren´t goblins typically depicted as small greedy creatures with big, long noses?

weird, the thing I liked the most about osborn was that he was first introduced as a good father and overall nice character who sadly was forced to break safety protocols in a desperate attempt to safe his company

>read this thinking it would be funny
>it's actually completely serious
Thanks a lot faglord now my night is ruined

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ironically this made me laugh

Yeah, Osborne is also a tragic character; he does make his deal with the devil because he is coping with abusive higher forces, but it's still a deal with the devil, and the movie explains his insanity is caused by this desperate moment where he turns himself insane on purpose because he wants to prove his experiment works.

So Green Goblin symbolizes Faust?

Yes, absolutely. Norman Osborne is absolutely a Faustian character, great observation.

Its not a take, it's the author's intent for the movie. Why else would Peter's lowest point be Uncle Ben dying after telling him he wasn't his father, and his triumph be rejecting Norman's offer of fatherhood by saying 'I had a father, his name was Ben Parker'? It really isn't a take, it's the intent of the character.

nah dude he just a wacky ass lookin villain

the big think you gave me led to this feel

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>almost 20 year old superhero movie largely rated as goofy and ridiculous by modern audience has a more complex and impactful arc relating the hero and villain than anything MCU capeshit has done even when all are added together
based raimi

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You’re out, Norman

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Uncle Ben = Christ who dies at the hand of sinners to bring the good word to his apostle...
Peter = Peter who takes his builds a church with it
New York = Rome

Most superhero moves have a strong basic theme like this, they just aren't shot as emotively or with as much personal investment as Raimi. We like to pretend Disney is so incompetent they can't even write a script, but the simple compare/contrast between the villain and the hero's mentor is inexorable

Not so much on his symbolism on this post, the other user in this thread alredy did a great job at pointing it out but the Goblin's character itself is pure will to power savagery. He's everything Norman wants to be and accomplish without the restraints of civil society but can't as a tamed man. The Goblin on the other had is a pure beast that takes what he wants and will do anything to see Norman's deepest desires come true. He's touted as insane but everything he does in the movie has fairly compelling motive behind it,

The thing about MCU movies is that arcs are spread out over sequels instead of having full arcs completed in a single movie. It leaves a shit taste in your mouth after each one. The characters never actually evolve meaningfully.

National Socialism, while Peter is a regular white nationalist.

Why not?

lol

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That's true. I had Iron Man 1 in mind when I wrote that post, but yeah once they start really doing it as a series they can't do an arc in less than three movies, it's awful

Not everything has to be a symbol or a metaphor, and extensive use of symbolism and metaphor doesn't make something good.

Uncle Ben vs Norman Osborn
Christ vs Faust

VD

Read the thread mong

If I find something to be symbolic, it's symbolic. The artist does not decide the 'correct way' to interpret their art.

The amount of replies that this asinine shit generated is a testament to how braindead this board is

Because Spider-Man is a part owner of the diner MJ works at

Uncle Ben vs Norman Osborn
a Retiree vs. Dr Jekyll AND Mr. Hyde

That's literally what's in the movie. Why the fuck else would Peter's killing line be 'I had a father, and his name was Ben Parker'? Do you really think people just write movies about nothing?

I'm just going to reply to you to to tell you you're a first fag.

Looking back, Norman's offer of partnership was always a ruse, in the end it's something he used to try and distract Peter because he wanted to kill him. Just goes to show how bad an evil mentor really can be.

Yes and it was very subtle. So much so that when I read it I was like
>woah deep
>nice take
>made me think
>I never could have imagined how deeper than other movie movie is

If you're saying that it's pathetic people were impressed by such an obvious and direct point of the scene, then yeah I was surprised too

all three are symbolism kino

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faggot

Lmao this is what incels think is "deep". Holy shit I can't imagine being such a retard that you needed any of that explained to you. Children grasped that shit. The raimi films were all shit and everyone knows it, you morons would say shit sandwiches were great if it "triggered normies". Get a fucking life and have sex.

I like the symbolism of the door bein broken, which of course represents Peter's inability to let people into his whole life. Villians come in and know him truly; his greatest friends always stand on the doorstep about to come in and thus be endangered.
This is what is powerful about three. Only via becoming a huge fag and jazz dancing people away can Peter ensure the security of those he loves.

Makes me feel like I could make a million dollars explaining Harry Potter to these people on youtube
'The Scholasticism of Harry Potter: The Hero's Virtue (part 1/7)'

Love you

The society that we live.

As far as bait goes, I gotta say this is pretty good

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The Raimi films are great and exactly what they should have been.
There are books called "The philosophy of [children's book]" and videos on YouTube unending "explaining" endings of shows like Scooby Doo! Mystery Inc., and none of these things do particularly poorly. You need to be in front of media appealing to those left of the bell curve though

I might do it as a part time job alongside my regular career. Nobody's out there with a giant retarded essay for each movie explaining how JK Rowling sold Harry Potter to the curricular world by writing a hero who's success comes entirely from good student skills.

fuck

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Well, that's cause it ain't true. If you want to write dross you need to read dross.

Holy shit. I cannot believe this awesome post.

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What's some top dross? Dude I'm telling you I can write a big essay just running through a movie with a lens like that.

It was just a testing field

Harry Potter, who is not a good student and barely manages to become a wizard cop. Harry only wins because of love and predestination.
>Why Neville is the literally Christ
or
>Why Dumbledore is transgender
These are the kind of headers you need to generate.

Somebody got the uncle Ben Vietnam napalming gay love shack pasta?

Interesting theory, but Raimi already says Gobbie represents Israel and Spider Man is the youthful generation of romper stompers

He breaks school rules, but Harry takes his studies seriously, studies in his free time, and his victory is always related to something he learns in class.

>transgender
Umm, JK Rowling is a TERF, sweetie.

Chaos, nihilism, chaos, depravity, objective metaphysical evil

Wait why does Peter turn down Mary Jane at the end of the first one?

this guyyyy

He'd be putting her in danger

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