Any quality kinos exploring this topic?

>Media cannot tell the truth and call them autists so they came up with the incel term
reddest pill therell ever be

>there's no 'mentality' in it, it can include all scopes of life who's only common ground is that they are incompatible with the modern dating scene for intellectual, physical or emotional reasons
If you're calling yourself an incel then there most certainly is a mentality in it.
>A 'chad' isn't simply a exploiter of modern female mentality to gain sex, they are usually products OF it because of ruined pair bonding, negative experiences, ego reinforcement and insecurity.
They are products of negative experiences? Huh?
>It's a critical term after all, not a veneration of whatever features makes the man desirable to women.
I never said it was that.

ahhh...yes it was. Your post is literally still up for everyone to see, tranny.

Selecting only what you want to hear in order to disprove someone is one of the most pathetic arguments

I'm sure there is a documentary about Korea somewhere.

I've been going out talking to girls and even had a few dates over the past couple months but all of them have imploded before they ever got to sex. It's hell. You can't just magically get laid by being out of the house and talking to women.

>their faces

Aside from the Le Fort 3 or Le Fort Blue which is Mod LeFort 3 + OBOX, the most important surgery is Limb Lengthening, most are incel because of height, if you are 5'9+ and aren't deformed there's no reason to be incel.

You can be a manlet but still taller than a good part of women, in the other hand if you are below 5'7 you are incel simply because the women available to you are less than 10%-20% and if you aren't in the top 20% of facial aesthetics or MS your chances drop significantly.

>The problem is these dipshits don't realize Chads still have to go up to girls.
Chads GET approached by girls regularly.
I do agree with the rest of your statements though. There are uglier, dumber and less successful people than the average Yea Forums "incel" that get laid or have a gf.

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>You can't just magically get laid by being out of the house and talking to women.
That's where the self-improvement part comes in. All I was saying is that you shouldn't expect self-improvement alone to get you laid.

>find a tiny overlap between self-described incels and men getting cosmetic surgery
>INCELS ARE GOING UNDER THE KNIFE TO CHADIFY THEMSELVES

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The important takeaway here is that you fed him some attention.

Not only Chads get approached or receive at least indicators of interests by women, 80% of men do, incels are a minority, less than 15% and most of the time is because of height (below 5'7) or being deformed.

While these men can improve themselves in many ways, their conditions will always bottleneck their opportunities with women, it doesn't matter if you are ripped as fuck and dress well, if you are 5'6 you will still have 0 chances with women unless you are in the top 2% of money/status (like some actors).

Surgery can fix these things (short height and maxillofacial deformities), but women are against it because of two things:

1) It will show that women are looks-driven and superficial just like men
2) They want to create two castes, one of chads to fuck and other of effeminate numales that will pay for free things and provide emotional support. Like a bunch of personal eunuchs instead of a husband.

Blackpilled people are just rebeling against this system.

And you say that 'this autism has roots in video games', I don't know where you get this from. I don't play videogames too much but I don't see how both things relate. Also in the last years I have seen a shit ton of women also playing videogames and watching other 'autistic' media like anime, at least where I live.

>If you're calling yourself an incel then there most certainly is a mentality in it.

There's a difference between being an incel and being blackpilled. I'm an incel because I'm short, and blackpilled because I know the truth and don't fool myself into thinking I can change it doing retarded stuff like PUA tactics, if I went to a place where most men are 5'0 and ugly I wouldn't be an incel there but still be blackpilled.

This guy fucks

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>And you say that 'this autism has roots in video games', I don't know where you get this from
By improving yourself in video games you will always succeed. I'm probably reaching by saying it's rooted in video games but it's definitely rooted in some sort of entitlement where people think if they do things to make themselves "wanted" then others will automatically be drawn to them.
I'm also not talking about the bottom of the barrel ugly disformed people who can't get laid. I'm talking about people who refer to themselves on the internet as incels. Many of these people have a sense of entitlement. They think that because they have worth, women should be flocking to them and since women aren't flocking to them the system must be rigged.

>there are *men* on this board that have never felt the inside of a vagina
>there are *men* on this board that have never cum inside a woman without a condom on
>there are *men* who refuse to have sex because they're lazy sacks of shit who opt out of the sex pool of society
PATHETIC

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How the fuck does an "incel" have money for this? It sounds like they are labelling men who are socially functional but hideously ugly as "incel". That's not incel.

Incels are mental.

I read Chad gets approached over and over but the posts rarely elaborate what approaching by a woman is. I struggle to imagine it being them, from below 5/10 to 9 or 10/10, going up and demanding a fuck outright. Gib me a greentext of what constitues as a woman approaching.

>there are men on this board that will never fuck a teenage girl and take her virginity.

That's the only one that actually matters.

Plenty of decent looking men will get plastic surgery if it means surgery will put them in the top 1% of looks

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAA

what did you fucking skinnyfat mantitted faggots think was going to happen when you spend literally every hour playing videogames, masturbating, giggling at memes

whilst men are out grafting hard, doing sports, dressing well, having good haircuts, socialising

and all of a sudden you turn 25 and you feel a slight shiver in your testicles as the 0.00002mg of test is produced

and you demand a qt 2.0 virgin to shove your penis into

just.. fucking... LMAO

its OGRE unless you have been playing the game from the start...

OR if you are incredibly LUCKY and get a job, looksmax, haircut, lift hard, get confidence, socialise with people (this is all literally hell btw, i did it for a gf)

incels are lucky desu the chase is always better and the idealisation of females in anime form etc is way more fun and has longetivity

i wish i could go back to being a weed smoking NEET hentai fapper

but im too deep into the "real life game" now to stop

sex feels good though. my girlfriend is going to put on a sexy outfit later and suck me off after we watch a film cuddles up on the sofa

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A woman approaching is when a woman gives you the eyes.

The only time a woman is going to approach a man is if they're a dirty skank and/or they're at a club and the woman is drunk

>plenty.
Good plastic surgery is expensive.

It literally means involuntary celibate, and if you have lurked incel forums there are plenty in college or working, but the whole incel thing does go hand in hand with being a neet, blackpill-spamming prick. There's probably man 5'5 chinless curries out there getting STEM degrees hoping that will be there ticket to earning the bucks for surgery.

Nah, it really doesn't.

Never have I seen a more truth-filled post. The biggest existential crisis I had was in my late teens when I realized I completely fucked myself by isolating myself from other people. It took years to recover.

Lol I’m 5’8, no muscle, and have one testicle and I get laid all the time. Let that sink in.

the docu about manlets who break their legs numerous times to grow scan centimeters

Sometimes its before she is drunk.
I also have to laugh at guys that think that they would never go with a girl they meet at a bar or club.
Thats specifically a place for meeting the opposite sex.

No it literally wasn't. Reread what he wrote you imbecile.

Many incels have jobs in STEM fields, also many buy cryptocurrency in the hopes of making money fast to get their surgeries. It’s called moneymaxxing.

Keep telling yourself that.

It's empowering when a woman does it, pathetic when a man does

I've had some really try to engage me in small talk in the past on drunk nights out. I've been as polite as possible or dismissive (quite sober for the former and very drunk for the latter), had a course friend I barely know clock me, starting sitting real closer, clinging on my arm, telling me to look at her, etc. Been told by friends I've had girls checking me out that I've been oblivious too. Does that constitute was women approaching in your eyes?

I'm incel, but I actually had chance to fuck few 5/10s and I refused it. Did I fucked up? Would you slam some ugly pussy?

>making money from crypto

i was a severe fuck up in high school, college etc, always a loser

then i grow up seeing how everyone has VAST social circles etc, whereas i have my computer, Yea Forums and one steam friend

i have turned my life around at a severe cost (nofap, no videogames) im a full time wageslave with a high paying stressful as fuck job, and a 10/10 NEET qt girlfriend

but tbqh i think i chose the wrong path sometimes. a carefree existence of drugs and fapping, hentai, anime, videogames is probably where its at

Especially if you live in a shit area. im literally having to sacrifice my whole life so i can move somewhere nice away from subhumans and crime to raise a family. but i guess you have to make sacrifices in life

I've been laid, I don't need to take the virginity of a teenage girl. I'd rather be fucking a turbo slut who knows what she's doing and can please me instead of some fish on a bed.

The "improve yourself" platitude usually comes from the anti-black pill side. But they don't say 'get plastic surgery' but tend to say things like 'buy random things to women', 'say more progressive things', 'look for open relationships' , etc. When it's not basic stuff like 'take a shower' or 'get a haircut'.

>I'm also not talking about the bottom of the barrel ugly disformed people who can't get laid. I'm talking about people who refer to themselves on the internet as incels.

Well, I'm on the bottom of the barrel and call myself an incel because it's true. If I could get limb lengthening surgery and add up to 4 inches (which is a lot) to height I wouldn't be an incel anymore (it doesn't mean girls will flock to me but at least I would have a small chance given that I make an effort before). But the surgery is not only expensive as fuck but also fucks you up later in life.

Girls checking you out is not the same as girls approaching you. Girls naturally will check decent-looking guys out. It doesn't mean anything. But yes, the rest constitutes a girl approaching you.

massive cope. the only meaningful sex is defiling a virgin

who wants some slag whos sucked off 30 nigs

COPE

As long as they're clean

I see what you're saying. I guess I was referring to the anti-black pill side then