Will it suck? Why or why not?
Villeneuve's Dune
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Andrew Phillips
>Why
Being the origin of space opera cliches, your average moviegoers will think this is just a ripoff of Star Wars or even GoT.
>why not?
Denis' direction will awe people as always, and even Yea Forums will discuss it for years while waiting for Dune part 2.
Zachary Russell
The twink playing Paul hasn't read the book and stated he only took the part because his agent told him it would make him famous "like leo", who he idolizes. That's not a very Muadib attitude. I fear he won't be able to deliver an adequate performance, let alone carry the film.
Bickering over casting choices aside, I'm interested in seeing how they portray the technology or the Dune universe.
Elijah Turner
>zoomers think Leo is a great actor
Kayden Cook
>Yea Forums will discuss it for years while waiting for Dune part 2.
I think this is an error. The movie should definitely be divided into two parts, however I object to releasing them a year apart. They should be released at the same time. When you buy a ticket, it should be for the double feature, however you can redeem your ticket however you like, so you could watch both parts back to back, or over a weekend, or even a month apart.
Eli Gutierrez
The zoomer twink views Leo as a *famous* actor. I think that fame is what he seeks. Like I say, unbecoming of an Atreides Duke.
Brody Lewis
Yeah, will they go full baroque like Lynch, or a more subdued industrial one like 2049?
Sadly that won't happen with Chinese funds from Legendary.
Carter Nguyen
>The twink playing Paul hasn't read the book
Factually wrong. He praised the book many times rereading it and claimed how he absolutely loves acting parts with literary source material.
Luis Young
But that's exactly Muad'Dib's hubris, which is why he refused the Golden Path.
Jacob Wright
already seeing some major red flags with the casting choices. they should be casting relatively unknown actors who will pour their heart and soul into the project. instead they're bringing on actors who probably won't even bother reading the book and will just go through the motions to collect their paychecks.
Austin Rodriguez
I like the idea of exploring how tech would advance within the constraints of the setting. No Computers.
What would the world look like today if that constraint was applied in the 40's? Now extrapolate ahead a few thousand years!
Christian Gonzalez
Agreed. I also wish they'd spend more time in pre-production. Several years, like what was done with LotR.
Michael Johnson
Sauce.
Benjamin Ortiz
Don't agree, besides, the year gap allows Chalamet, for example, to start bulking up a little bit (not massively, but enough for it to be plausible he's gotten big simply because of he's older), etc.
Cooper Baker
Well Blade Runner 2049 was a masterpiece so Dune would probably be great too
Tyler Price
i don't think he'll be able to handle Dune
as the casting has already shown
Landon Phillips
You can't exactly go 'tsk tsk the pre production was too short' until seeing the final product. There's probably a myriad of factors that determined why the pre production was shorter. On obvious one being that it's not a triology and I doubt either film with exceed 3 hours and then have extended editions over 4 hours.
Juan Jenkins
He's a false flagging tranny lying about an old 2018 interview, Timothee praises the book, the Leo comment is on his great filmography and project picking. Also offhand praises the Lynch version, but confirms that the only source material for this film is the book and nothing else.
>"“And looking at the careers of Leonardo DiCaprio or Joaquin Phoenix, those guys exclusively work with great directors. So I always told myself, if you do a big movie, make sure it’s with a really great director. I met Denis at the Hollywood Film Awards last year. I didn’t want to scare him away with my enthusiasm for the project, so I didn’t even bring it up. I just said, ‘Hi.'”
>“I have read the script and the book and I am so grateful that it’s a big movie and yet, there’s a real arc to this character,” Chalamet said. “My enthusiasm for the David Lynch version is through the roof. And I got an impression that Denis shares my opinion, too. So working on ‘Dune’ is like a dream come true…I don’t think the film version will suffer from green screen-isms or something, like it’s silly or something. It feels like the work is intelligent.”
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Brandon Nelson
Taking time to make the movie would permit those kinds of physical changes. They should just take their time, enough to portray the time skip, and release the two parts together.
>Chalamet revealed to the Philippine Daily Inquirer that he found out Villeneuve would be tackling “Dune” while he was searching the internet on Google one day. The actor compared Villeneuve tackling “Dune” to Christopher Nolan tackling “The Dark Knight,” which made landing a part in “Dune” a top priority.
>"It has always been my dream to do a big movie,” Chalamet told the Inquirer. “And looking at the careers of Leonardo DiCaprio or Joaquin Phoenix, those guys exclusively work with great directors. So I always told myself, if you do a big movie, make sure it’s with a really great director. I met Denis at the Hollywood Film Awards last year. I didn’t want to scare him away with my enthusiasm for the project, so I didn’t even bring it up. I just said, ‘Hi.'”
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Jose Brooks
Different cinematographers, unfortunately.
Jeremiah Flores
They should be over 3 hours. Each. Worst part of Blade Runner was that it was too short. Unironically.
Jaxon King
Fraser is an even better choice for Dune.
Alexander Myers
I'm in the minority for thinking Lynch's Dune is a flawless film and that the Dune series from 2000 amounted to tasteless vandalism but I'm still looking forward to this director's take on the book because I believe that Blade Runner 2049 outdoes the original and that Dune 2019 can too.
John Fisher
>the Dune series from 2000 amounted to tasteless vandalism
How so? I thought it was pretty ok if one views it as a filmed stage-play, rather than a movie/mini series.
Carter Roberts
>Dune 2019
it comes out in 2020
just in time to BTFO both capeshit and starshit
John Cook
Two films exceeding two and a half hours (let's say both being the same length as 2049) is good for me. Not sure what else 2049 could have had in it frankly, so please share what you thought it needed that necessitates a longer length time.
Robert Brooks
Lynch's Dune may have been a clusterfuck, but it had the best cast of extras ever assembled.
Jacob Young
Yep. Casting Aquaman as Duncan Idaho is beyond retarded.
Levi Howard
You as sure as shit twisted his words around. Besides, another user pointed out other interviews he's done since then showing he has read the book. I honestly have no problem with Chalamet as Paul. The most ardent opposite tends to be REEE'ing about him being either a Jew, a twink (Paul was small for his age at 15 and very, very lean, unlike Feyd, when 18), or ranting about CMBYN where he was a faggot. Seeing as how he performed well in CMBYN, that shows me he's a good actor and makes it plausible he'll pull off a convincing Paul.
Ethan Jackson
I have never looked at it that way before. I guess I'm ready to give it another go now.
Adam Fisher
>Chalamet, for example, to start bulking up a little bit
He should do the opposite. When he joins the Fremen he loses the "water fat" common to offworlders.
Robert King
It's a clusterfuck but a fascinating clusterfuck all the same. Only really good filmmakers or utterly terrible ones like Wiseau can make fascinating fuck ups that captivate. Someone like Ratner, for example, doesn't make trash that people find fascinating.
Ayden Bailey
Agreed, Rogue One looked amazing.
David Gutierrez
dune is a doomed series
Logan Peterson
Give how Hollywood trainers are, can't he do both? i.e. gain some muscle in the shoulders and so on to show he's aged and his body has developed whilst getting him down to an extremely low body fat percent so veins and all show?
Easton Ward
Content-wise, it was fine. I just really enjoyed the film's immersive quality and would have like to stay there for another hours. This could be done by simply padding out establishing environment shots and additional slice of life scenes.
David Butler
Yeah, once I watched it from that perspective, alot of its cheapness be ame forgivable. Also, take note of how the Baron often ends his scenes with rhyming couplets addressed to the audience.
Adrian Thompson
I have faith in my boy Denis. So far the only casting choice I genuinely dislike is Zendaya. Momoa as Idaho is weird, yes, but hey it might work.
Ryder Sullivan
yes, casting is absolutely atrocious
Sebastian Sanders
>Since I was 12 years old there was a book I read, which is ‘Dune,’ which is my favorite book, with ‘1984.’ After ‘Prisoners,’ the producer of Alcon asked me what I would like to do next. I said, ‘Dune,’ spontaneously, that if anyone could get me the rights for ‘Dune’ — and I knew it was very difficult to get those rights. For me it was just a dream, and I guess I’m lucky that Mary Parent from Legendary got the rights and offered it to me. I can’t say no to that. I have images that I am haunted by for 35 years. I will not say no to that. That’s going to be the project of my life.
OK Denis, show me your turboautism. I am ready.
Aaron Green
I hate the idea of including any GoT actors on principal. It reeks of topical fanservice, like they're trying to bait the Burlington Bar crowd. Shameful.
Ryan Campbell
>I hate the idea of including any GoT actors
Which got actors?
Owen Davis
But the cinematographer for Dune _is_ Fraser.
Cameron Green
Lol, what? I never watched this series cause of how shit it looks but I gather they also did that dumb shit where he flies around. Don't know why they keep fucking up the Baron so much in these adaptions. I like Skarsgard so hope he pulls it off. I'd like them to keep the homo pedophilia angle but that's something I expect them to axe... or maybe Denis really doesn't give a shit about several outrage articles and anger from faggot interest groups and tumblr and considers it a blip compared to the praise the film could get.
Lucas Harris
I'm aware, and I'm saying how he's an even better choice than Deakins for such a project.
Ryder Foster
Jason Mamoa is the only one I'm aware of who actually got a part, but early /Dune/ threads were full of casting charts calling for a plethora of GoT actors. Cringe choices, like Peter Dinklage as Thufir.
Brody Mitchell
Momoa. I've only read the first book know about Duncan's role in the sequel books. But insofar as Duncan for an adaption of the first book, he's fine. If they make Momoa clean shaven and cut, he fits the role of lady's man Idaho quiet well.
Nathaniel Wright
Peter Dinklage should play Bijaz in Messiah.
Charles Garcia
I remember that cringe chart. I think it had Ken Watanabe as the Emperor too.
Julian Young
30 minutes of Gurney Halleck shredding on the Baliset, please.
Chase Flores
Miniseries Baron is much more subdued than Lynch's and does a better job of portraying the character as a calculating tyrant. They even include the pedo preferences, in a limited way.
Samuel Davis
Big oof.
Nicholas Harris
There's not a single GoT actor in the cast you dummy.
All of pic related are officially confirmed
Brandon Scott
Lynch completely fucked up the Baron's character but it is funny how over the top evil, pathetic, disgusting, etc. he is. Lynch is autistically reticent to discuss Dune at any lengths but I'm curious what made him decide to make film Baron like that.
Brandon Myers
Aren't Jamis and Harah cast as black actors I forget who. Pic needs an update.
Jaxon Smith
yeah based Babs Olusanmokun as Jamis and some female dindu Gloria Obianyo as Harah
seems like they're going for full on african non mutt total black for those two, kind of fits
Austin Miller
>white boi beats big black man in one on one combat and wins his wife and his wife's children as a prize
Brayden Diaz
Wait , had there always be some random dwarf in the throne room ?
I am honestly not sure if they actauly put him there as a refence to the books or just trying to be random.
Benjamin Stewart
And his water!
Angel Morgan
It's a detail they added for the world building. Like how the Royal and noble houses keep pugs and English bulldogs. Someone in the production team thought through what kind of trends might be in vogue in a feudal future. It's honestly the kind of attention to detail I liked in Lynch's version.
Jason Nelson
what did house corrino do in the first book? don't even remember them in there
Dominic Ramirez
They're the house of the Emperor, who schemes with the Harkonnens. Never quite understood why the Emperor didn't just marry Irulan off to Paul to start with. He was related to the Duke as a cousin, so it would simply be a consolidation of power. It wasn't like he had any sons and by conspiring with the Baron, he was kind of commiting her to Feyd.
Jason Rivera
Use the Harkonnens to do their dirty work.
James Robinson
the miniseries has quite a lot going for it even with such an obviously low budget
Lynch had some interesting designs and ideas, but also some utterly shit ones
overall I prefer the miniseries by quite a lot
Ryder Turner
Because of the Bene Gesserit, I believe. They had him by the balls in certain respects. He had no sons precisely because they decided he would sure only daughters.
Aaron Jackson
But their plan was to set Feyd up with Alia. Can't do that if the Atreides are dead and Feyd is with Irulan.
Caleb Foster
>Never quite understood why the Emperor didn't just marry Irulan off to Paul to start with.
It doesn't make sense but it maybe Bene Gesserit machinations, I also assumed the fact he didn't have sons was that they were planning to get the Empire used to a non-Corrino Emperor, a generation before the match of the female Atreides with Feyd-Rautha would result in the Kwisatz Haderach who I would assume would then marry into and become the Padishah Emperor of the Empire
thus consolidating three large Houses and leading humanity onto the Golden Path, as approved by the BG
Robert Williams
>he doesn’t know about my nigga Bijaz
bruh’dyakin...
Wyatt Bennett
they didn't plan for Alia for one, they saw their plans as blown with Paul being a boy instead of the girl they commanded from Jessica
they may not have realized the Harkonnens would have Paul and Jessica murdered, which doesn't make sense, but they did plan on keeping Paul for their breeding program and trying to salvage his role in it
Ayden Torres
I do. Which why I am wondering if they read the later books and decided to put a dwarf in the background as a kind of reference or just thought it would be cool to have a dwarf in the film.
Adam Martin
John Carter from Mars had the same problem. It wasn’t a good movie to begin with, but so many stories had taken inspiration from it that there was really nothing new to see.
Kevin Powell
Because Duncan, Halleck and Thufir were building up a (small) force that could stand up to the Sardaukar. Shaddam was scared shitless because essentially his only trump against the Landsraad is having soldiers that are so much better than everyone else (even the Harkonnens admit that with a 10:1 advantage they'd get anhilated by the Sardaukar). If the Atreides manage to build up a large force, along with their popularity, they could overthrow him.
Brayden Jenkins
this doesn't go back to the issue of Irulan and Paul being of similar ages with the Emperor not having an heir and openly in Irulan's later writings that are included at the beginning of the chapters wishing that Leto were younger or Irulan older so the two could've wed
it only makes sense with BG involvement for some end, potentially punishing Jessica or something of that nature
Hudson Gray
Ugh, I did not want to see that in high definition.
Daniel Howard
Yeah.
Star Wars litterally lifted the entire force concepts and jedi from Dune.
The jedi brown cloak that ben wears and the fucking desert planet shit?
The worm in space and the desert worm on jabba's planet?
JABBA THE HUTT?
Damn near everything that makes SW work was 100% stolen from Dune and used poorly.
Jaxon Baker
Timothee will carry it.
Levi Evans
Or because he's afraid the Atreides would overthrow him before his death, and with a marriage to Irulan Paul would have a ton of legitimacy. Not that BG shenanigans didn't play a role (although more that they still want to join Atreides and Harkonnen, not so much a punishment), but Shaddam isn't exactly portrayed as the most competent.
Connor King
>Zendaya as the main romantic girl
of course it's gonna sucks
Blake Brooks
>the main romantic girl
She'll barely have 5 minutes of screentime in it my dude. Read the book.
Mason Brown
>uggh the Burlington Bar crowd
I'm supposed to know what a Burlington Bar is?
Ryder Sanders
>Jason Momoa wasn't in GOT
ok
Hunter Anderson
Only if you frequented the /GoT/ threads. It was a weekly watch party at a hipster bar that was filmed and posted online. As a result, the act of watching the episodes became a very performative event for the bar's patrons. They would dress provocatively and exaggerate reactions to draw attention to themselves. A fire alarm should have been pulled on them, but alas, we live in a fallen world.
Angel Flores
my actual reaction to reading this comment. UPVOTED AND REDPILLED
Landon Richardson
Whilst riding atop shai-hulud. Shit would be so cash.
Brandon King
>A fire alarm should have been pulled on them
Or better still, an actual fire.
Cooper Taylor
Knowing Lynch it was probably “dwarves are neat, shove the little fucker in there”
Jonathan Carter
The harkonnens had dwarves as well in that one scene with steam!Feyd. They're in the background, cutting up a cow. Rabban nearly tramples one of them.