Why is Rey from Star Wars considered a Mary Sue but Tommy from Power Rangers considered an okay character when they're...

>Yea Forums hates Rey
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this. It has nothing to do with power. It has to do with a character undergoing change within their narrative wherein they must fail before they succeed. Take for instance someone like Superman, a character so powerful they can literally do anything, yet his defining moments of what made him the character he is are those moments in which he could do nothing, or tried everything and still failed. It's the character's own learning and growth from their mistakes that makes them entertaining.

Tommy, despite being powerful, is a unique example because his story is ultimately a redemption arc. His failing is a moral failure, by siding with evil, even when he knew he shouldn't, and he strives to redeem himself when he turns good. And even then, there are instances where he fails in various episodes, even when he has become the White Ranger.

Luke fails numerous times, he fails to save Obi-Wan, he fails to learn how to control his powers at first leading to his defeat at the hands of vader, and he fails to save his friend Han Solo by the end of Episode 5.

I cannot recall a single thing Rey ever failed miserably at, and her character grew because of it.

Because a) Tommy started as being mind controlled and a villain
B) Tommy's power was temporary until he became the white ranger
C) his zord, while powerful, was only truly useful when combined
D) his real life was shit, and no one likes him
E) he wasn't smarter than Billy, tougher than Zack, faster than Trini or more flexible than Kimberly. He was arguably around Jason's strength, but not above it.

Tommy lost multiple times. Hell he was the bad guy when he first started rey has always been a good girl with no questionable motives. He had to give up his own power thats something rey has never done. He loses time and time again and has to rely on teamwork to win name one time that rey had to team up to win. No elite guard dont count they purposely missed rey in multiple scenes because she kept missing her ques.

Tommy lost his ability to become the green ranger. He lost his ability to become the white ranger twice. He lead a team against a galactic threat in zeo When has rey every shown leadership skills and intuition?

>character undergoing change
So a character becoming more powerful is undergoing change.

Rey is undergoing change by becoming more powerful like Tommy.

By that logic, Rey being kidnapped means she's not a Mary Sue and complaining about her having mind-control force powers is irrelevant because "it has nothing to do with power".

No user, I think you missed the point. The change is not simply from less powerful to more powerful. The change is from a state of failure both existential and literal to a state of success. Ray has always had success. There has been no change to validate her Hero's Journey. She hasn't even crossed the first threshold yet and this series is in it's third and final act.

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Rey lost multiple times, almost turned evil multiple times, and had to be saved like a damsel by Kylo Ren.

So thank you for clarifying that, according to Tommy logic about him not being a Gary Stu, Rey is definitely not a Mary Sue.

>The change is not simply from less powerful to more powerful.
That's literally all there is to Tommy.
Also, Rey's change is going from junk trader to powerful jedi even without the help of a mentor figure since Luke is a sad sack of shit in TLA.

>I cannot recall a single thing Rey ever failed miserably at
She failed at being a good character.

Please then, enlighten me on a particular scene where Rey faced a true crisis she could not overcome before the end of that same scene, and the lesson she learned that elevated her as a character.

>where Rey faced a true crisis
When she was deciding to choose between being a good guy and a bad guy after learning her parents were nobodies who left her for drinking money.

...which was resolved immediately afterward in the very same scene when she worked with Kylo Ren to defeat Snoke then rejected his offer to become evil.

Rey's motives are "doing the right thing" and "reunite with parents", and they have no relation with each other. The idea that learning her parents are dead scumbags would cause her to completely throw her moral compass out the window and join the space nazis is a baffling non sequitur.

I have no idea how anyone could believe, even for a second, that Rey was going to turn evil.