Sooooo

we should be putting cages in children

I like how if you're brown you can just like walk into another country and cry crocodile tears until you get citizenship, while if I walked into one of their shitholes I'd get shot or worse

Sounds like a personal problem, sourdough.

I watched all of these late night shows once in the same day. It was after that "Tim Apple" incident and I felt like I watched the exact same show 5 times.

Yeah, that's fascinating.
Hey you ever do DMT?

muh heart surgery
muh kid
nbc stinks!

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>saying "concentration camps for illegal immigrants" as if its a bad thing or some kind of argument against trump

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I like lenos garage. Drumpf didn't kill late nite. Craig Ferguson was the last. They killed themselves.

>I'm not a snowflake you are
Learn English, beaner. It's not difficult.

i like how if you're white you can just exploit another country's resources but if the locals try to come to yours and ask if they can live in the place where all their labor power went to, they get put in cages. clearly whitey is the real victim

wow look at the hightQ user who figured out late night talk shows have and always will be shit.

Fix your own problems. Take responsibility for your shithole and improve it. You sound like a nigger, blaming everyone else instead of looking at yourself

if these """""""concentration camps""""""""" have better living conditions than their home country they have nothing to complain about

t. only speaks one language

it's fucking bullshit. I've had 5 child sex slaves detained and held up for 4 weeks.

PUTIN HACKED ARE DEMOCRACY

You know nothing about me faggot. English and Spanish are closely related. With the exception of the other Latin languages, English is probably the easiest language a native Spanish speaker could learn. Get fucked.

The only one that counts.

Yes, they should be perfectly happy, since their current shithole is marginally better than their previous shithole.

MUH CHOLOCAUST

I like how if you're white, you're not responsible for your ancestors achievements, but you are responsible for your ancestor's crimes.

I like how if you're brown you can just say white people stole your labor and resources, even though you personally haven't done shit and would have no idea about said resources if whitey hadn't started digging for them.

Despite the shit fits, the entire world knows white people are a net good. And white peoples own decadence is what's hurting them most. Too much virtue signaling and decisions being made by those who don't feel the effects.

>ancestor's crimes.
? the exploitation of south america is ongoing. look at the US funded drug war and sweatshops. Those things are not in the past at all they are happening as we speak. typical weak-minded conservative, no concept of reality outside his flyover state bubble

US imperialism is bipartisan, homeboy

Why are white people the only race that collective guilt/responsibility applies too? I wonder if you are truly myopic enough to think that only white people own sweatshops or fund proxy wars? Is it because white people simply were better at it?

>sweatshops
Like in China or Vietnam? You don't see them chimping out.
>drug war
South America was just as eager to capitalize on it as North America.

that has nothing to do with "muh ancestors" but nice deflection

>make drug
>sell it to white people
>they like it and want more
>but it destroys communities and other white people want to stop it
>other white people like the revenue your product creates and want to help you keep selling it
WTF I CAN'T BELIEVE WHITE PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THIS TERRIBLE AND UNDESERVED RECKONING UPON US

soo yep only one?

i don't think they are, I don't think collective racial guilt is even a thing but other people in the thread were making categorical statements based on race that were inaccurate. facts don't care about feelings.

If you're referring to the point that brown people can enter white countries with sob stories, it's absolutely true. Just not in every case.
If you're referring to the argument that white people can't go into brown countries safely, you're only partially right. A rich white person would be relatively safe in brown countries. However a poor white person without influence or money would find himself in a much more threatening situation. Perhaps sheltered rich white people may get misimpressions about the white experience in brown countries, but facts don't care about feelings.

why would immigration be the only time when collective racial guilt applies? (again, I don't believe it does but other people are the ones bringing it up)

What exactly has been inaccurate? You ever visit diamond and emerald mines in Africa? They have to section off different parts of the mines so workers of different tribes don’t kill each other. And they’re still getting better conditions that what they’d get anywhere else. Whites arnt pretty sometimes but they sure as hell arnt ugly.
Try smuggling telecommunications equipment through Mexico sometime. If that doesn’t make you racist than you’re just plain stupid.

shitskin illegals belong in cages. Maybe it'll do a good job deterring any of them from scurrying in

what deflection? i'm just saying it's not a conservative thing, it's an american thing.

so...BANE

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>sure the president is helping run concentration camps for children
You do realize Africans from Angola buy plane tickets to Mexico then walk to the US border and willingly go into these camps for the chance at easy living in the U.S., right?

The saddest thing about modern politics is that this man used to be funny.

“Niggers....we got a lot of em! And uhhhh what’s up with all the crime they commit? Did they not get the memo that humans are out of the Paleolithic era? I mean....come on, there’s monkeys that have higher IQs! And some of them can even stack boxes! Niggers REALLY need to step their game up!”

>What exactly has been inaccurate?
the statement that allowing south americans to migrate to America means asking white people to pay for "their ancestor's crimes". The exploitation of south america is still going on, and even the cia-backed dictatorships of the 70s and 80s are not really "ancestors" the americans that organized them are still alive lol

FOUR U's?!?!

lmao just go back to your dirt country

“You don’t fear death, you welcome it. Your punishment must be more severe.”

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wtf i love colbert now

>insult le God emperor
>seething /pol/tards everywhere

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>...DRUMPF
*cheers and applause*

America first, buddy. Sorry, but we had to take out some commies. Can't have that shit spreading, you see. Honestly, you really should be thanking us.

Soooooo the uswnt won.again

The obama camps are inhumane but they can leave anytime by renouncing the asylum petition. So it is not a concentration camp

vocaroo.com/i/s0nQmh9zaTLB
wtf I love Orange Man now

the alternative is opening the border. is that what you want? I want to hear a leftist say "I want open borders". they are intentionally vague and dishonest talking about concentration camps without proposing solutions.

Says the American unironically, blaming everyone else for your own problems.

Yeah, that totally justifies intentionally mistreating people out of pure bigotry! I'm the morally superior here! My conscience is clear! BUT DON'T CALL THEM CONCENTRATION CAMPS, HOW DARE YOU USE THE LITERAL DEFINITION CORRECTLY!

Jamie pull that up

And that totally makes it right to abuse human rights when we have processes in place to determine who has a right to an asylum.

Fuck niggers fuck spics

Jade gave TWO rides!!!

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Fake news goof-o

>capitalizes on the anti Trump jokes
>gets millions of views on youtube and on tv every night
>worth millions of dollars
>makes magatards seethe daily
post yfw Colbert is actually based

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If America treats brown people so bad and is such an evil white supremacist nation then why do they want to come here so bad? really makes me think

I don't even like Colbert or Democrats in general, but holy fuck magatards are the dumbest people on the planet. Double digit IQ boomer zionist shills who love anything jewish or israel. Go on the_donald or any breitbart comments section and these ""people"" unironically love israel more than their own country and think that serving the people who killed Christ is somehow helping Christianity.

>the statement that allowing south americans to migrate to America means asking white people to pay for "their ancestor's crimes". The exploitation of south america is still going on, and even the cia-backed dictatorships of the 70s and 80s are not really "ancestors" the americans that organized them are still alive lol
Ok so the reparations thing is very real and mostly not from SA but from African and middle easterners and the dictatorships were a means to combat communism and uhhhh yeah...the cia are a bunch of spooks. They wanted Roland dead after all

God, i fucking hate liberals

I really don’t like Donald Trump and I hate Colbert. However I used to be on the trump train and I can speak from experience when I say that le based maga pedes are slightly more tolerable

I get what you are trying to say but he way you wrote that sounds retarded.

>America is evil
>Stopping people from coming to America is also evil

based
centrism is the true way to live

I'm not even a right winger, but perhaps their admiration for Israel stems for the fact that they are the last nationalist western nation, and because Israel IS what they want to be, in many ways.

this is good bait, I'll admit

When was he funny outside doing voices in Harvey Birdman?

>I'm not a snowflake

leftists cant meme

Prof Impossible on Venture Bros

The entire reason for the constant instability in the middle east and the flood of refugees is the wars for israel that the pro-zionist lobby has gotten them to start/make worse. The magatards and boomers are the exact same retards who were excited for the Iraq invasion pre-2003

>muh jews

kys

>The entire reason for the constant instability in the middle east and the flood of refugees is the wars for israel

no its not.

>The magatards and boomers are the exact same retards who were excited for the Iraq invasion pre-2003

You mean Clinton voters?

Just about everyone was for the war. Because they were lied about it. Very few people had the courage to protest against it.

How is it Israel fault that Europe is inviting immigrants? Israel (Netanhyu) advised Europe NOT to take in the refugees.

And the real reason for war in the middle east isn't Israel, it is and it always was to enforce the petrodollar. Israel became so close to USA precisely because they are America only capable and reliable ally in this critical region.

You don't remember fox news being a 24/7 shill station beating the drums to war? You don't remember shit like "freedom fries" and everyone who opposed the war being called a traitor? You don't remember the Dixie Chicks being boycotted? These are the same right-wing numbskulls that today fly Israeli flags and show up at trump rallies wearing red hats, they haven't changed a bit.

And explain to me how things like the US invasion of Iraq, intervention in Libya and Syria (done by Democrat neocons who are just as bad as the republican ones and virtually identical to them) also at the behest of destroying anti-Israel countries, all for the sake of protecting Israel, has NOT led to the massive refugee crises flooding Europe and an increase in terrorism and Islamic extremism worldwide?

Yeah. You're clearly the sane one.

Didn't they actually lock the dixie chicks up?

The invasion of Iraq was almost entirely for the purpose of protecting Israel and destroying an Arab nationalist country in the region, same for the war against Libya and Syria. Notice how the U.S. never attacks actual Islamist but pro-Israel countries like Saudi Arabia, even though they had much more involvement in 9/11?

You know people died in concentration camps right? They were either worked to death or gassed. Remind me how many people have died in American immigration camps?

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Nah but rednecks, boomers and neocons began boycotting them and stopped playing their music because they dared criticise the disastrous war that America was heading into face first.

Not really I mean it was clearly to expand Cheney's and his goons control of middle eastern oil trade. Im sure Israelis would like to think that tho

>Democrat neocons who are just as bad as the republican ones

where are those Republicans that still favor foreign intervention? The last one worth mentioning was McCain.

Sorry but the war-mongers are the leftists and the "neo-cons" were just leftists in disguise anyways. No proper conservative would ever believe you could turn an arab shithole into a democracy with a couple of bombs and nice words.

while stupid as fuck, to be fair, the dixie chicks probably would have criticized any war America went into unless it was specifically for Israel or to save brown people.

>or gassed

Yeah with a household pesticide at low concentrations that somehow killed hundreds of people in a non-airtight room in minutes, and then their bodies all buried in an area smaller than a football field, then dug up and burned again without any fuel because "their fat made them burn faster". Funny how people with actual workplace exposure to hydrogen cyanide gas don't die instantly but develop long term neurological problems, but somehow with hundreds of jews it killed them instantly. Funny how hundreds of people locked in the showers weren't able to break down a simple wooden door.

concentration camp = place where people are concentrated (that means lots of people in one place)
extermination camp = place where people are exterminated (that means killed)
hope this helps

But thats not how its treated in public perception. Because the name got so commonly associated with the nazis the two names are basically indistinguishable at this point.

Based Mr. Jackpots poster

Then FDR's internment camps are the same as the former, according to that definition

>where are those Republicans that still favor foreign intervention?

Do you watch the news? And yeah Trump is not an interventionist, he's against intervention. In that case, he is 100% right. I'm not actually against Trump, I kind of support him especially in his foreign policy. It's more a large segment of his supporters that I can't stand because these are the same guys that for some reason DO absolutely favour foreign intervention, and were the same people that were favouring it in the run up to the Iraq war. And yeah it's a good thing that most nowadays admit the Iraq war was a colossal mistake, you'd have to be a retard not to, but they still blindly support Israel without realising the leading role the zionist lobby played in creating that war. You go on things like the_donald or breitbart, and you see 100% adoring unquestioning worship for Israel. After Trump launched those missiles at syria, the_donald was unironically banning anyone who criticised it.

Based. Getting (you)'s from Drumpf supporters is too easy.

But they didn’t get citizenship dumb-dumb. What do you think ICE has been doing all this time?

>unless it was specifically for Israel or to save brown people.

The Iraq war was specifically for Israel. Iraq was a secularist country that always wanted good relations with America. In fact most of the Arab world would have great relations with America and have traditionally admired America, up till America was taken over by a neoconservative zionist.

We don't know how many people die in the concentration camps anymore because they've intentionally stopped reporting the deaths. But before that happened, we knew for example that seven children had died in a single year under Trump's cruel and intentionally inhuman treatment of the people in the camps, a massive change since in the previous decade we had zero child deaths.

Hey those are enemy votes he's detaining

Lindsey Graham is literally drumming up for war in Iran. John Bolton and Pompeio are eager for war in Iran.

They are. Concentration camps were invented by the British for the Boer peoples during the Boer war.

Extermination camps is a bullshit meme, they are just concentration camps where zionists and soviets spread the meme that Germany was exterminating people. Funny how before the end of the war they claimed ALL concentration camps were extermination camps, after the war all those were relabelled concentration camps except for the ones that were in post-war Soviet held territory.

sauce?

I only got 20 minutes to eat lunch during public school and I wasn't allowed to stay at home, what a concentration camp

Yes, people have a flawed understanding of the of the word.

No liberal is saying the Japanese concentration camps were good. It's MAGA guys saying that because they want to blibdly defend Trump. The government literally has had to apologize and paid reparations for the interment of Japanese during WW2.

why am i supposed to hate trump again? i literally havent heard one thing about him that makes me hate him. actually all that caging kills and saying mexicans are dirty people and africa is a shithole and making fun of retarded reporters and having two scoops and all that other shit im supposed to hate him for all sounds pretty cool to me

>t's more a large segment of his supporters that I can't stand because these are the same guys that for some reason DO absolutely favour foreign intervention

not really.

you know you are an absolute retard falling for blatant propaganda yes?

Have you been on r/the_donald or breitbart and read the comments their? Literal neocon stuff that agree word-for-word with John Bolton and the israeli lobby

>Concentration camps were invented by the British for the Boer peoples during the Boer war.
The Spanish were using them in Cuba 70 years before that. I imagine similar camps have been common throughout history, probably overshadowed by the sieges and sackings of the time.

You're not bothered by his blind israel dick sucking, his pardoning of Jewish criminals, the nepotism affecting his policies to the point where he makes it legal to hunt endangered animals so his friends can have a little fun? Not saying any other president was better or that liberals were right about him at the beginning but the dude is pretty shit.

>because [insane rambling]
Oh. Okay.

>pointing out points is insane rambling
ya got me

lol no they didnt, American never payed reparations for that. Nor did they ever pay reparations for the nukes

if you go cherry-picking comments im sure youll find something to support whatever you believe but its in no way indicative for a large part of a group.

Partly true. A lot of rich/mid class people get kidnapped for ransom cash but it isn’t talked about much because it would destroy tourism if they talked about it too much. Maybe not RIIICCHHH people, but people we would consider rich.

Trump is God on high to these people

Can you fucking redditors not go five seconds without spamming your gay-ass political shit wherever you go?

>In 1988, President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act to compensate more than 100,000 people of Japanese descent who were incarcerated in internment camps during World War II. The legislation offered a formal apology and paid out $20,000 in compensation to each surviving victim. The law won congressional approval only after a decade-long campaign by the Japanese-American community.
And why should they have to pay "reparations" for nuking Japan? Nonsense.

>muh jews

what do you even want? If you didnt realize: Hitler wasnt on the voting ballot .

I wish. Good riddance

His rhetoric might be good but his legislative accomplishments are dogshit.

He is completely hamstrung by the belief that the stock market must be doing well 24/7, and this has played second fiddle to immigration and trade reform. Fuck, he was talking about increasing taxes in 2016.

Trumpism could have changed America for the better, now it's just Reagan 2.0

I support isolationists, non-interventionists, and Ron Paul type libertarians. If these exist in the Trump camp (and I'm sure some do) I support them 100%. What I don't support is the interventionists, neocons, and zionists, and these also exist in the Trump camp (and are very vocal). I don't know if they are a majority or not, but they definitely moderate the discussion on the_donald. The_donald banned anyone who criticised his strikes on Syria, so one of their mods is definitely a zionist. Breitbart was literally founded by Jews so it's a foregone conclusion. Thankfull on /pol/ because of the free speech platform and low level of moderation, they are drowned out. But there is an increasing israeli shill campaign on /pol/, more and more israeli flags and meme flags are popping up supporting neocon positions.

Someone who doesn't prefer foreigners over his own countrymen.

>That's our president!
>*laugh track*

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These are all easily verifiable facts with a simple google search. The fact that you blatantly paint them as propagation shows what an NPC you are.

>second fiddle to immigration

you got tighter border security and deportations, sounds like an improvement to me.

>sure the president is helping run concentration camps for children

The open borders faction funds the organizations that agitate for and facilitate the border jumpers. They are responsible for the huge increase in boarder jumpers. The whole point is to flood the system while stopping Trump from allocating more money to run the border. The obvious result is overcrowding, caused by the open borders faction.

This is a manufactured humanitarian crisis, created by the open borders faction. They flood the system, stop it from being funded and then cry about "concentration camps."

IT'S FUCKING THEATER.

Gondal ruuuump!

>verifiable facts
>with a simple google search.

dude...

/pol/ is a black hole, other websites have mods with axes to grind, and fuck Reddit.

You got nowhere else.

>Yeah, that totally justifies intentionally mistreating people out of pure bigotry! I'm the morally superior here! My conscience is clear!

It's your fault. You invite those people to jump the border when you know they are alien and aren't entitled to citizenship. It's your Democrats that are stopping the border from being funded. It's people like you that fund Pueblo Sin Fronteras, which agitates for the border crossings. It's your side that is making the detention centers overcrowded to manufacture a humanitarian crisis.

It is inane that you think Trump should reward these people for holding themselves hostage by throwing themselves over the border.

>Prison = concentration camp
>school = concentration camp
>campground = concentration camp
You dense fucking moron

muh poor innocent cholos smuggling dem kids into the concentration camps!

>It's your Democrats that are stopping the border from being funded

Except the Democrats already passed a bill for more money to address the issue last week, which Mitch McConnell rewrote to give more money to the military rather than improve the concentration camp conditions and other measures that would slightly improve the situation.

HAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHA

Trump ran in 2016 on a wall for the entire length of the US/Mexico border and the deportation of all illegal immigrants.

>alt-snowflakes are STILL getting triggered that a comedian makes jokes about their twitter-daddy

for your own emotional stability, have sex.

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>It's your side that is making the detention centers overcrowded to manufacture a humanitarian crisis.

No, that was Trump administration's own deliberate change in policy to make it more punitive. The Trump administration intentionally created this crisis to deter people from coming and it doesn't work but rather than to change course they double down and now try to argue in court that detained children don't need to be provided with things like soap to meet mandatory safe and sanitary conditions that they are mandated to provide.

Sauce? Not the other user but I can't find anything regarding that claim.

uh maybe because it killed 226,000 people

That's war, deal with it faggot. Literally happened everywhere. With the Japanese occupying manchuria in china, even in Africa! The slaves sold to merchants that were eventually brought to America, we're losers of war enslaved and sold by the reigning tribes

>blormpf

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Trump isn't a good president but that doesn't justify being completely and utterly obsessed with him to an unreasonably harsh degree

>uh maybe because it killed 226,000 people
So? Strategic bombing isn't a war crime.

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On civilian cities? yes it is

now if you could just impress that on the retards constantly using Yea Forums as a promotional vehicle for him

>Concentration camp
>You can leave anytime you want by just walking out
>So awful people from other countries are dying to get into one

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>civilian cities
As opposed to what other kind of city?
>yes it is
Objectively isn't. Just because you don't like something doesn't make it illegal, kid.

>civilian cities
one of the bombs took out half of the japanese second army that was stationed in hiroshima. nagasaki was the largest ports in the south of the country
learn what you're talking about

I remembered it slightly wrong, it wasn't military but CPB and ICE specifically that most of the money went to.

salon.com/2019/07/02/democrats-folded-on-border-bill-now-they-must-demand-to-see-detention-centers/

time.com/5616315/house-accepts-senate-border-bill/

>call yourself the land of opportunity and freedom
>visit america, enjoy your time there working as a laborer and want to live there
>overstay your visa
>suddenly, you're thrown into a shithole 10 times worse than the place you came from

>overstay your visa
>suddenly
Haha.

>obsessed

If your president does and says stupid shit nearly every single day and lies so much you basically have to just assume everything coming from his mouth is a lie unless proven otherwise, you have to talk about it rather than ignore it.

>The exploitation of south america is still going on, and even the cia-backed dictatorships of the 70s and 80s are not really "ancestors" the americans that organized them are still alive lol
Every south american country that got a shitty CIA dictatorship was an unstable shithole well before the USA ever intervened in their politics. The poor, violent governments of the Cold War were little different than the governments that proceeded them in the post-independence period. They suck because the people who populate those countries suck. It's really that simple.

you're at the mercy of whatever racist inbred decides to report your ass, so yeah it's not farfetched to assume how sudden it is.

>when you do something illegal you could be arrested at any moment if someone reports your crime
That's true of all crimes.

Yeah, that justifies United States intentionally overthrowing legally elected governments and putting their own handpicked dictators in their place, who them terrorized their citizens. Especially when the US then went out of its way to fund and then cover up war crimes that groups like the Contras did.

this hit hard

They don't really need much condemnation though. You were always going to have corrupt, abusing rulers, the CIA just made sure that they were pro-US corrupt, abusive rulers. In the grand scheme of things this isn't really all that bothersome barring the absolute worst cases. But seriously, go read the post-independence history of any of the countries we installed dictatorships in and see how things were going before the US showed up. A number of these countries literally never have had stable, democratic or decent governments in their entire histories, and it is not the responsibility of the US to do that for you. Their countries suck and were so vulnerable to coups because their people were shitty and made their countries that way.

School do be a concentration camp

yes, the clearly the crime of overstaying your visa is comparable to theft, or murder. tell me how you benefit when you're responsible for deporting people who lived here their whole lives? they could be on the pathway to citizenship and you just took that away from them

McAfee 2020

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>do something you know is illegal
>be aware of consequences if you get caught
>bring your children with you and endanger them anyway
>get caught
>bad things happen

HOW COULD BLUMPFS AMERICA DO THIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>theft and murder are the only crimes that you get arrested for
They'll arrest you for tax evasion too, which doesn't hurt anybody anymore than an illegal immigration. Stop talking out of the side of your mouth.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes

>Examples of war crimes include: intentionally killing civilians, destroying civilian property

so fucking what? 226,000 civilians dying is still an atrocity and the US gov at the time knew it

>let me post a sentence out of the example section of the wikipedia article about war crimes
>that will prove my point
Woah there, Clarence Darrow.

>The largest groups of people who entered the U.S. legally and then overstay their visit were Canadians, with more than 92,000 remaining in the U.S. longer than they were permitted, followed by Mexicans, with more than 47,000. It is estimated that the numbers are higher because the DHS’ report does not include arrivals by land border crossings.

Why do racists focus on Mexico?

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>overstaying their welcome

That's not the subject at hand but okay

But it is? Overstayed visas accounts for 62% of illegal immigrants

npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings

so it's not a war crime; learn about what strategic bombing is and what international law is

Here. I can settle this completely irrelevent argument you're trying to make. Canadians who overstay their visa should be deported too. Or was the point that you were losing the argument and just decided to accuse people of racism using a completely nonsensical argument?

>I deserve credit for something somebody else did
>I don't deserve blame for things I do
Ironic how white supremacists become exactly the thing they hate.

Who are you quoting?

I would take a fun wager that the illegal Mexicans would cause more harm then Canadians. Also:

>framing the argument from a different term by using "overstayed visas*
>then framing the argument again by saying overstayed visa account for 62% of illegal immigrants

Really good at moving those goalposts by providing data that isn't relevant!

>tell me how you benefit when you're responsible for deporting people who lived here their whole lives? they could be on the pathway to citizenship and you just took that away from them
Residing here illegally for a long time doesn't make me more sympathetic, it makes me less sympathetic.

You don't want actual reasons though, do you? Because the case against south/central american immigration to the US is very straightforward from an HBD perspective.

Diversity (in this case shitskinned mestizoes) has a direct, negative effect on social trust. Social trust produces social capital, which is necessary for a participatory democracy to function. Low-trust societies result in low levels of participation, low levels of volunteering and cooperation between citizens, which have an endless number of knock-on effects, the most obvious being an inability for the people to organize effective political movements to hold politicians accountable or cause genuine change. We can see how every LatAm country is a corrupt, unreformable shithole as a demonstration of this, but the empirical evidence is abundant beyond that. Start with "E Pluribus Unum" by Robert Putnam.

In addition, we can see that immigrants import their outcomes with them.
evonomics.com/do-immigrants-import-their-economic-destiny-garrett-jones/
voxeu.org/article/immigration-inequality-and-intergenerational-mobility-us

Look at the economic outcomes of central america and tell me you want us to look more like them? Look at how California already has a worse high school education system than Alabama and an income inequality level on par with Honduras and tell me you can't see the obvious relationship - importing third worlders and you won't fix them, you'll just turn your country into the third world too.

They all need to be kicked out, period, no exceptions.

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>DEY BROKE DA LAAWWWWWW

It doesn't matter how you come in, you are then processed and your case evaluated if your asylum request has merit. Once you apply for an asylum it becomes irrelevant and in no way makes it alright for the government to intentionally abuse and mistreat you and break your basic human rights. That is how seeking asylum works. Especially in the current situation where the ports of entry literally refuse to let people in to apply asylum "the legal way" and turn them away.

>w-well other people break the law too

Fantastic argument. What's the end game to this debate? Some people break the laws so eh fuck it let em?

>It doesn't matter how you come in
Already starting off on a flawed premise.

>muh asylum

Kind of amusing they all seek asylum here instead of going into South American countries even when they are closer.

Once again you people show that you don't actually care about how the law works, you just care how you feel about the issue.

Canadians make up 60,000 out of 200,000 people who overstayed visas in this country, yet there are 11,000,000 illegal immigrants in our country in total.

So, .54% of our total illegal immigrant population? Wow, big fucking deal, racists btfo.

This is a dumb argument though, because it's fucking stupid to not be a racist. In any event, see

This is a broken system and they are taking advantage of refugee status when they violate the terms of that protection and then claim they are victims. Refugee status starts & stops at the nearest country they enter that isnt war-torn.
Fuck off to reddit

Because we're talking about people living here illegally. Not people who come here and try to apply for asylum to the first official they encounter. When you skip a half dozen other countries on your way to America and then live here illegally instead of actually applying for asylum, then it matters how you came here. Because you broke the law to get in. Then you little bleeding hearts start weeping over every little sob story and start equating legitimate asylum seekers with criminal border hoppers and insisting they be treated the exact same way.

60K is still a lot of people. Where is the outrage and campaigns to get them out? Where's the demand to lock them up and mistreat them in detention facilities? Why are you ignoring a specific group of criminals?

yes user, we all personally did that shit in the past before we were born.

>60K is still a lot of people.
Compared to 11,000,000?

>you people dont care about the law
Oh thats rich coming from you

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>Once you apply for an asylum it becomes irrelevant and in no way makes it alright for the government to intentionally abuse and mistreat you and break your basic human rights. That is how seeking asylum works. Especially in the current situation where the ports of entry literally refuse to let people in to apply asylum "the legal way" and turn them away.
The system is obviously getting abused, as coming with a child and saying "asylum" served as an effective get-out-of-jail-free card. Thus the policy change was necessary. Pretending that all of these people are genuine is just playing dumb and will convince nobody. What's more, going along with it simply incentivizes human trafficing and incentivses people to pay money to these criminal smugglers who rape the women and use them as drug mules. There is literally no reason beyond total delusion to not enforce these laws strictly, but if you're just going to pretend that everyone from south of the border all of the sudden this year need asylum when this basically never happened before, therer's really no point carrying on a conversation as you are clearly arguing in bad faith.

Leafs should be deported too, but maybe they don't get as much attention in the immigration debate since they aren't shitting out a dozen anchor babies and refusing to speak English and leaching off welfare and demanding special treatment from the American taxpayer and sending all the money they earn out of the country and out of our economy.

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You ignored the post I linked to which provided a pretty good outline as to why, don't play stupid. Here, I'll quote it again for you:
>Diversity (in this case shitskinned mestizoes) has a direct, negative effect on social trust. Social trust produces social capital, which is necessary for a participatory democracy to function. Low-trust societies result in low levels of participation, low levels of volunteering and cooperation between citizens, which have an endless number of knock-on effects, the most obvious being an inability for the people to organize effective political movements to hold politicians accountable or cause genuine change. We can see how every LatAm country is a corrupt, unreformable shithole as a demonstration of this, but the empirical evidence is abundant beyond that. Start with "E Pluribus Unum" by Robert Putnam.
>In addition, we can see that immigrants import their outcomes with them.
>evonomics.com/do-immigrants-import-their-economic-destiny-garrett-jones/
>voxeu.org/article/immigration-inequality-and-intergenerational-mobility-us
>Look at the economic outcomes of central america and tell me you want us to look more like them? Look at how California already has a worse high school education system than Alabama and an income inequality level on par with Honduras and tell me you can't see the obvious relationship - importing third worlders and you won't fix them, you'll just turn your country into the third world too.
>They all need to be kicked out, period, no exceptions.

most retarded comment ive read this week

>this is the ant-hill i've decided to die on
Yikes.

And how does this in any way justify the inhuman treatment that we are seeing today, where you literally took every single child away, where the numbers are in the thousands, did not even any keep records of the separations, and now, a year later, you still cannot reunite all the separated children because oops, we kinda don't know which child belongs to which parent?

m.youtube.com/watch?v=kWQWTzyn06M
Say what u will about trumpies but they seem way more chill than these unhinged liberal lunatics on the news and social media. Who wouldn’t wanna have a bro sesh with this guy???

But but but black people don’t like trump! He’s the most racist man in history it’s not possible! Does not compute! Error error

>all these mad drumpfies ITT

>"Stop making these kids sleep on concrete! Give them beds!"
>government is set to buy a bunch of furniture from Company X
>"WTF how can they profit off of the suffering of children?! I'm boycotting Company X!"

It would be good PR for Company X to simply donate beds.

hahaha i know right it sounds like they is the ones who is the real triggered snowflakes! hahahaha fucking PC butthurt drumpf fans! imagine being offended by something! only a faggot ass loser repub would be offended by stuff! us libs are too cool for faggot shit like that! fuck faggot ass jew loving trump fans!

If the handful of lefty states and municipalities would stop inviting people to violate immigration law this wouldn't be an issue. They only have their selves to blame if anything bad happens to the cheap labour source they're importing along a long and dangerous route.

>baka that quip got old real quick.
Fuck Shapiro man

>gets BTFO
>y-you drumpfies mad!
the beta leftoid strikes again

>And how does this in any way justify the inhuman treatment that we are seeing today, where you literally took every single child away,
Can't keep them together until we've verified the adult is their parent. Could easily be an abusive non-parent/cartel member/etc. and it would be dangerous to leave the child with them.

It's also wrong to put kids in jail with their parents for crimes their parents committed. We don't lock up American kids for crimes their parents committed, and we do not call this "family separation". This is a privileged afforded to foreigners.

The right thing to do would be to deposit them on the other side of the border as soon as they are discovered, rather than all of this messy stuff, but that isn't allowed either.
>where the numbers are in the thousands
Irrelevant
>you still cannot reunite all the separated children because oops, we kinda don't know which child belongs to which parent
Significant part of this issue is that some kids got sent to stay with relatives already living in the US, who aren't returning our calls because they don't want the kid to get deported.

In any case, I am not moved by these arguments, because it does not matter how humanely we treat them, any attempt to enforce immigration laws and deport people will be called cruel by dishonest pearl-clutchers like yourself. You are against any and all deportations and will find any excuse to delay or stop them, so there is no reason to bother engaging with such bad faith arguments, and instead we should purse the most effective strategy we can carry out with the current legal/funding restrictions. If we had any reason to believe that you wouldn't dishonestly exaggerate any misstep or discomfort into a literal holocaust, then we might have a reason to give a shit, but as it stands, you react in the exact same manner to just treatment of them as you do unjust treatment.

Also, I note that you still have no response to
Perhaps more fake moralizing?

This is your brain on Shapiro

Maybe bed companies aren't thinking too much about the kind of good PR they can generate among the liberals who will live in their parents guest room for most of their lives.

Thank fuck Yea Forums is still based as fuck and hates spics

this but unironically
we should be doing harsher things like shooting any brown person we see on sight within 100 miles of the border and deporting the rest

The Brotherhood stands strong.

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i cant believe Colbert still wont let the 2 Scoops things go. Literally every night he talks about the scoops for 20 minutes, its his entire monologue! how is he the highest in the ratings? are people really that into talking about ice cream?

You cough to loud in the middle east and John Bolton starts to get a half chub because he might get to drone strike some children. Trump is a fool for having that goon around.

>cause it does not matter how humanely we treat them

But you objectively aren't even trying to treat them humanely. And you actively argue in court that you should be allowed to mistreat children inhumanely by not giving them basic necessities for their health, like soap or toothpaste.

>most effective strategy

The current strategy is anything but effective. It's wasteful, it's inhuman, it only makes you look worse in the eyes of the entire world, it fills up facilities that cannot handle the number of people that then, it gets fought in court all the time, it costs the tax payers far more money to detain all the people rather than using the system that did not subject people to these cruelties...

And it is all done intentionally because the policies aren't meant to be efficient, they are intended to be cruel so that people would not cross the border, and it's a complete failure because the opposite is happening, even more people are now coming in than they did under Barack Obama OR George W. Bush. And the current administration had two whole years with a majority in all three branches of government to fix immigration laws and processes. Instead they chose to create this disaster. Because they clearly do not care about anything but getting political points by demonizing the people at the border.

I don't care what else is going on ITT but I read a few posts and I just have to say that literally every illegal deserves a cage, yes even children. A bullet would be better so they stop trying to come and wasting our tax resources playing around with them. I thank God for the government doing something actually good for once and actually kicking all those fucking rats out, Lord knows they're cucked enough in other ways.
Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Later!

P.S. FUCK JANNIES

shut the fuck up neet, we're wasting tax resources on your neetbucks you deserve a cage

You think they have soap or toothpaste in their shithole home country? They should be used to their living conditions if they are telling the truth about how hellish things are to make them claim asylum. Drinking out of an American toilet and sleeping on the floor in a building that is at least safe and structurally sound is unironically an improvement for these people.

this is like the finale of the leftist shill script. go dilate

>You think they have soap or toothpaste in their shithole home country?

of course they would have soap and toothpaste what the fuck?

> if they are telling the truth about how hellish things are to make them claim asylum. Drinking out of an American toilet and sleeping on the floor in a building that is at least safe and structurally sound is unironically an improvement for these people.

you know they can be claiming political asylum or were a member fleeing a particular social group to avoid persecution. they would still have their basic necessities met.

It's called the UN Charter, the founding document of the post-WW2 civilized world, you ignorant piece of worthless trash.

...

I'm not NEET you goofy poofy cunt but yea fuck NEETS too while you're at it, they deserve even worse. Throw them in the meat grinder with all the other useless obese fuck heads at walmart. Clean this fucking country up.

>You mean Clinton voters?

Does it matter? As long as you support Israel you can have any position you want in American politics. Both parties know this well.

Only good post in this thread

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Y I K E S

ORANGE MAN BAD

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That sign looks shopped

the only alternative to the camps is obviously allowing millions of people to come over the border and work for slave wages while loading up redstates with undocumented politically indebted guaranteed blue voters. this is what happens when you hold an entire population hostage they start resorting to mass institutional violence against vulnerable groups. It will get worse the more unreasonable the demands are.

7 hours old post and people are still going mad about. Kudos to the truth speaker. What does it take for alt-kikes to wake up and drop their childish tantrum?

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what the fuck are you talking about? they aren't asylum seekers or refugees they're economic migrants, we don't have to let them in. If I wanted to take a plane to China and then just stay there so I could leach off their social programs without being granted citizenship they'd throw me in a detention center indefinitely. The same thing would happen in Japan, Russia, Germany, Iran and everywhere else the rule of law is respected. You are not guaranteed entry to any sovereign state.

>I care about people I've never met

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Wtf is with all these (you)s it's not even good bait

Ahh so these are the doctors and engineers from Central America I've heard so much about

>Trump is running concentration camps by making sure illegal immigrants aren't being victims of human trafficking and slavery
I think it's just the audacity of being so smug and misinformed that makes it such good b8

>loading up redstates with undocumented politically indebted guaranteed blue voters

Then why don't these red states flip to blue already? This narrative is always how millions of people vote illegally to support dems, yet somehow miraculously the dems keep losing in red states every time. It's completely idiotic conspiracy theory. If they already own blue states, why would they keep flooding new illegals to those states and not divert them to places that are at least purple, if not red? And why are election officials so incompetent they cannot catch tens of thousands of voter fraud cases if millions are doing so illegally every election cycle, instead it's mostly republicans that are caught deliberately cheating?

>Then why don't these red states flip to blue already
That's literally what happened to California

>And why are election officials so incompetent
*Corrupt
>they cannot catch tens of thousands of voter fraud cases if millions are doing so illegally every election cycle, instead it's mostly republicans that are caught deliberately cheating?
>Mostly Republicans
Ahem, *WikiLeaks*

>In order to make sure these poor people aren't human trafficked we most abuse and mistreat them and not give fucks when small children die in government custody

I don't quite follow the logic here. In order to stop abuse we must have the government do the abuse directly themselves?

>blue pilled
Brah that's some heavy mental gymnastics for excusing these camps.

>Stopping small children and women from being raped and is abuse because they live in over populated conditions in makeshift, underfunded facilities that should be equipped for a humanitarian crisis
They're not being abused, you just have no fucking clue how bad human trafficking is along the US Mexico border. Over half of the women who cross the border illegally report being raped or sexually assaulted. The rate of deaths and abuse occurs far, far less in these facilities than during their migration into the US and what ends up happening to them anyways.

No, you're just ignorant af breh

So every red state election official, who are appointed and supervised by the winning party i.e. republicans, is corrupt and actually Manchurian candidates in favor of dems, yet they repeatedly fail to do anything to help the dems win? And when they keep purging voters from rolls that disenfranchises minority vote that tend to dems, it's all part of a secret plan to turn states blue but darn it, it just never works right?

>a group of many thousands of people come seeking asylum
>they get put into refugee camps
>this is evil somehow
How dare we give food, medicine, shelter and clothing to people claiming to be fleeing death and destruction. We should do the humane thing and just let them disappear into the shadows of society.

Locking people up in cages doesn't solve the issue. And it's at the wrong spot. If they get picked up and locked up, they were already long out of the danger of human trafficking/slavery/abuse and so on.
If you truly want to tackle the listed issues you would have to start it long before them coming even close to the border, as these are issues that happen on their way there.
But who am I talking to even, you probably just have an irrational grudge against immigrants.

>So every red state election official, who are appointed and supervised by the winning party i.e. republicans
Yeah, and vice versa with the Democrats. It's a uniparty, been that way since after WW2. Eisenhower tried to warn us about it. He was the last good Republican desu
>is corrupt and actually Manchurian candidates in favor of dems, yet they repeatedly fail to do anything to help the dems win
? Incoherent rambling is incoherent rambling
>And when they keep purging voters from rolls that disenfranchises minority vote that tend to dems
Ooh sauce me up on that hot take. Sound really really fake.

>But who am I talking to even, you probably just have an irrational grudge against immigrants.
Yeah, why would he just have a disagreement with you on immigration policy? He's probably just a Nazi like those people who think corporate sales tax should be 0.8% lower than you do.

>a cage is a refugee camp
>parents separated from their children is a refugee camp

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>If they get picked up and locked up, they were already long out of the danger of human trafficking/slavery/abuse and so on.
... You really think human trafficking just ends at the border? I can't even... No?
>Why don't we have Mexico help us patrol the border
Hmm... well I think the president is trying to do something about that but , man, he just can't get support rom one weird side of the aisle

Refugees get processed into any proper refugee camp system. When it's competent you see things like what the United States does. When it's incompetent you get what happened in France, Italy, Greece and pretty much everywhere else in Europe.

its already happening you retard a huge portion of the hispanic population growth is just illegals having kids

>"Parents"
Who we have no documentation of and for all know are just human traffickers.
>It's a cage
No, it's not. There are actually very very very few deaths that occur in this place due to malpractice or incompetence according to human rights watch

>It’s America’s fault your nation is a shithole.
>Don’t stay and try to fix the problems, just dump your country for good and go to some other nation for free shit.
>Be sure to leave behind the elderly and others who are incapable of fixing the problem and will only suffer as a result

The entire refuge crisis is a scam

>totally
Stay on r*ddit sweatie

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>insult le funny liberal comedian
>seething trannies everywhere

The only one running children concentration camps is the CPS

>parents
And how do you prove they're actually the parents? Expensive DNA tests?

a cage is the best place for refugees desu

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What's happening at the border is nothing close to the Japanese internment camps.

based post

I am radically for the party that will get him funny again.

I wish the camps were actually as bad as you think they are

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>illegals detained before January 20th, 2017
>I sleep
>illegals detained after January 20th, 2017
>ZLORMPF RUNS NAZI CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR INNOCENT CHERUBS IMPEACH IMPEACH
not Yea Forums

Imagine being the kind of brainlet who imagines that he's exposing some great logical inconsistency here. Fundamental opposition to the camps' existence would necessarily entail opposition to any civilian contractor profiting off of them.

People were complaining Obama deporting people during his two terms as well. Also, comparing the treatment and policies of Obama and Trump as if they were the same is completely laughable. Trump has made multiple policy change intentionally to make the conditions worse. That is why it's deplorable when Trump tries to put all blame on Obama.

>cut expensive drug with crap around your kitchen
>sell it to everyone that couldn't afford it before
>it has horrible side effects and withdrawal symptoms
>ruins their already broke ass existence
>white people outlaw it and put you in jail for selling it
WHY ARE WHITE PEOPLE TRYING TO DESTROY OUR COMMUNITIES

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Nothing wrong with pointing this out unless you call it a Trump era policy

Oh boy put on a fresh pot gents

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cringe

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TWO

sorry about that eh

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Did he at least get to ride the skellingtons rollercoaster of death?

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Point me to when Colbert and his clique were hyperventilatingly criticising Obama for running "concentration camps". Wow it's almost like all those reactions are driven by feelings towards Drumpf.

not Yea Forums

Actually It looks like I've misplaced my collection. I gotta find bear and eagle cage again, one of my favorites.

thanks obama

Go vote for Ilhan Omar then, see how well that works out for you

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Most refugees in Europe aren't even Iraqi or Syrian. They're from like Morocco, Pakistan, Nigeria, etc.. Places Israel doesn't give a shit about.

Try again ahmed.

If it was about protecting Israel they would have invaded Iran or even Syria. Iraq was weak and contained

However Saddam was the #1 threat to the Saudi's at the time. Weird!