Explain to me why it is more noble to kill 10,000 men in battle than a dozen at dinner

The boltons immediately made peace with the Lannisters, so it's quite easy to put 2 and 2 together.

but there was only one shadow

To the general public?
>inb4 muh high septon
Tommen remained king and supported by the Faith

because he didn't just kill a dozen men at dinner, he killed a large portion of the northern nobility in a way that is the ultimate betrayal and blasphemy in their eyes, which is why the north is supporting stannis' presence and why his grasp over the riverlands and the north will be incredibly short lived, because every single person who had family die at the red wedding will never forget that treason and is going to rebel against the boltons/freys at every opportunity they can get

Men who had not witnessed the rotting flesh and mud mixed with shit and blood to such an extent that it robs you of your sleep and sense of smell should not make judgements of what is truly disgraceful

t. Tywin

>because you wouldn't kill 10K in a medieval battle
Uh, no? Medieval battles were more brutal than modern warfare. People got hacked into pieces.

It wasn't a dozen tho

The North remembers.

tyrells would've never killed joffrey at his wedding, sure they would've done it eventually, but tywin giving the green light to the red wedding set the precedent. he doomed his seed with that authorization

medieval battles usually werent as protracted as modern firefights. It was usually a relatively short and intense clusterfuck before one side routs and morale breaks. 10k wasnt unheard of but it was fairly uncommon.

The people you kill at the dinner are probably replaceable, no matter how important they may seem while the now enraged 10k men are still around.
It also makes every way of killing fair game. You would have family members be killed in heinous ways left and right.
Still it can be a good move in certain situations.

The show done Stannis dirty by not having the North rally behind him.

There are certain things you just don't do, not even in war

The only time 10K people died in a single battle in medieval times, just one saide, was only during Mongol invasions or exceptional all-mighty battles like Las Navas de Tolosa

Even at Agincourt it is doubtful that it reached 10K dead

you committed a fucking war crime, Tywin

This ,although their naturally independant he was neutral to them and Ned would have backed him

>peasants
>human

>saide
We got a live one!

why didnt we use Gas during WW2?

You do something like that and you are sending the message that you will stop at nothing and that you will never look for peace and you might have killed the only people who would have kept them in check or given any semblance of law.

You are a piece of shit even from the point of view of your allies, you are Stalin, you can't be trusted, if you stoop so low, how do I know where you draw the line between friends and foes?

it's not about the peasants, but the lesser lords

sure the lannisters are one of the 9 great houses but they're still outnumbered by every other house, not to mention he's involved in a civil war with other said great houses. kill rob at the wedding sealed his house's fate. if he would've just hired some essos ninjas to do it in rob's sleep it would've been seen a better move. doing it at a wedding was stupid

This schoolmaster, designing to betray the Falerians by their children,led them out every day under the town wall, at first but a little way, and, when they had exercised, brought them home again. Afterwards by degrees he drew them farther and farther, till by practice he had made them bold and fearless, as if no danger was about them; and at last, having got them all together, he brought them to the outposts of the Romans, and delivered them up, demanding to be led to Camillus. Where being come, and standing in the middle, he said that he was the master and teacher of these children, but, preferring his favor before all other obligations, he was come to deliver up his charge to him, and, in that, the whole city. When Camillus had heard him out, he was astounded at the treachery of the act, and, turning to the standers-by, observed, that "war, indeed, is of necessity attended with much injustice and violence! Certain laws, however, all good men observe even in war itself; nor is victory so great an object as to induce us to incur for its sake obligations for base and impious acts. A great general should rely on his own virtue, and not on other men's vices." Which said, he commanded the officers to tear off the man's clothes, and bind his hands behind him, and give the boys rods and scourges, to punish the traitor and drive him back to the city. By this time the Falerians had discovered the treachery of the schoolmaster, and the city, as was likely, was full of lamentations and cries for their calamity, men and women of worth running in distraction about the walls and gates; when, behold, the boys came whipping their master on, naked and bound, calling Camillus their preserver and god and father. Insomuch that it struck not only into the parents, but the rest of the citizens that saw what was done, such admiration and love of Camillus's justice, that, immediately meeting in assembly, they sent ambassadors to him, to resign whatever they had to his disposal.

Different story, also involving the Romans:

After this, Fabricius taking the consulate, a person came with a letter to the camp written by the king's principal physician, offering to take off Pyrrhus by poison, and so end the war without further hazard to the Romans, if he might have a reward proportionable to his service. Fabricius, hating the villainy of the man, and disposing the other consul to the same opinion, sent dispatches immediately to Pyrrhus to caution him against the treason. His letter was to this effect: "Caius Fabricius and Quintus Aemilius, consuls of the Romans, to Pyrrhus the king, health. You seem to have made an ill judgment both of your friends and enemies; you will understand by reading this letter sent to us, that you are at war with honest men, and trust villains and knaves. Nor do we disclose this to you out of any favor to you, but lest your ruin might bring a reproach upon us, as if we had ended the war by treachery, as not able to do it by force." When Pyrrhus had read the letter, and made inquiry into the treason, he punished the physician, and as an acknowledgment to the Romans sent to Rome the prisoners without ransom, and again employed Cineas to negotiate a peace for him. But they, regarding it as at once too great a kindness from an enemy, and too great a reward of not doing an ill thing to accept their prisoners so, released in return an equal number of the Tarentines and Samnites, but would admit of no debate of alliance or peace until he had removed his arms and forces out of Italy, and sailed back to Epirus with the same ships that brought him over.

These are probably my two favorite anecdotes on the subject of playing dirty in war.