Phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range

Chopping Mall

I ain't got no Baja Blast

>Slingshot with bag of stones! NEEOOOW!

UZI 9mm starring the famous comedian, Arnold Braunschweiger.

The Uzi 9 millimeedah

>40 watt
>Phased Plasma

All he wanted was a colourful light-bulb. Why must humanity be so cruel?

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might as well as post the webm

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>buying full autos from a gunshop
Yeah, no.

doable before 1986, which terminator came out before.

Lethal Weapon

You still needed a tax stamp and ATF approval senpai.
Unless he was just trying to make a sale, but movie made it seem like you can just walk out with it. It's a bit misleading like most movies are about America's gun laws, perpetuating misunderstandings and lies.

Darude - Sandstorm

>yeah i'm gonna need a tax stamp and to talk to the ATF first, buddy
>gets shot
the end is the same either way

The Termination Man

A 5 watt laser is powerful enough to ignite skin after less than a second of contact. A 40 watt laser would be exponentially worse.

half of the guns sold in that scene arent even allowed to be sold legally, but hollywood loves to make it look like we can just buy fully automatic Uzis at a gun shop. Not to mention this movie takes place in Los Angeles and i doubt a gun shop has been open in LA in over 40 or 50 years.

idk what year they stopped, but you used to be able to buy fully auto, I've shot a 750 round 22 mm machine gun with a drum. It ran through the ammo in a few secconds, but of course I just shot in spurts.

>idk what year they stopped
1986

DERR UZI NEIN-MILLIMEETER

it was 84 dude

But no person in the US has been killed with a legal fully automatic weapon since 1936.

Plus no you got your facts screwed up. Non FFL citizens are only allowed to own fully automatic weapons that predate 1986.

That doesnt negate what I said. The movie is fictional, retard.

Hercules in New York

Conan the Destroyer

The terminator modified those weapons for full automatic fire. Its not like he cares about the ATF.

Gonna end this once and for all

>Terminator enter gun shop
>Needs to acquire a primary weapon which will inflict max amount of damage in the range that he operates so he visually scans the rack and selects the 12 Gauge Autoloada
>Terminator parameters now switch to prioritize a secondary more concealable weapon as a backup and notices the .45 Long Slide w/ Laser Sighting (important)
>After completing the inspection of the handgun, the terminator accepts this as a suitable weapon
>At the same time his programming notices the laser sighting. All the files the Terminator has for this time period doesn't suggest that laser sighting should exist yet. And realistically, this was a very new accessory for firearms at the time.
>Terminator processes this information and concludes that since there are little to no records of pre-Judgement Day, there might be a chance to acquire a plasma rifle in this time period. Especially given the fact that laser sighting is present while not being in his internal files.
>Terminator most likely narrows down plasma rifle selection to the earliest iterations. In this sense, the Phased Plasma Rifle in a 40 Watt range could very well be some sort of pre-production prototype that has the earliest data of appearance on Skynets data files, and by extension, the Terminators data files.
>The shop keeper is quick to retort with a snide remark
>Terminator calculates that plasma rifle technology must not exist due to tone and inflection detected in human response
>Now Terminator needs another weapon to fulfill the role of the plasma rifle. It is logical to conclude that it was needed for supression/automatic fire.
>For this reason, his programming looks for something in the shop that will fulfill the tactical purpose of the plasma rifle. Finds the Oozie Nein Mehlehmeeta and decides to use this in its place.
>After inspection of all firearms are concluded and all firearm roles have been filled, it is time to dispose of the shop keeper.

The Terminal

i may end the thread early today

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Compact laser sights didn't exist at the time. They had to use a gas laser with a wire running up Arnold's arm to supply the necessary high voltage to make it work. The director wanted something really cool though for the later scene where he puts the laser on the first sarah connor's forehead.

Nice

He tells him he'll have to wait on the handguns, but the rifles he can take today.

WRONG

The point was to show how toxic male masculinity leads to white men selling full auto rifles to incels to use in mass shootings.

Thanks, Jim.

I find it amazing he found a vintage AR-18 at a CA gun store.

tl;dr?

Dumb fucking zoomer

I live in LA.
There's a gun store within 5 miles of where I live.

simpsons S11E05

Post proof

Read further down where i corrected them you fuckin retard.

Erminator 2: Udgment Da

>40 watt range
Is this hard science fiction or soft science fiction?

You can go on Google maps and look up "Los Angeles gun store" and look at the results

HEY WHAT THE

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The movie is 35 fucking years old.

>There's a waiting period for the handgun
>But you know you can take the fucking shotgun and uzi right now

Do Americans really do this?

easier to hide a handgun in your waistband than a shotgun (unless you modify the shotgun which is illegal)

Hey, he can't do that

Put me in the inevitable screencap.

youtube.com/watch?v=XqIfkhaYMMI

Lawnmower man 2

Why does a machine with a targeting computer need a laser sight?

Ferris beulers day off

it's a movie man, just turn your brain off

>Man comes in buying an entire arsenal
>Free "shooting up nearby police station" bumper sticker with the fourth lethal automatic weapon, pal

>The movie is 35 fucking years old.
The AR-18 was a rare weapon even back then. It was only popular among the Irish Republican Army in their battles against the British

And the uzi?

Do you think the gun store owner would’ve lived if he’d let him take the ammo?

jamie lee on the left

poor Dick Miller

Should have shot this entire room of snotty customers instead.

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Gas-s-s-s-s

>Why does a machine with a targeting computer need a laser sight?
Same reason RoboCop needed one, duh. You so stupid!!!

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Why did the Terminator even engage in conversation with the guy, he knew all about the weapons and didn't need the guys help and he just killed him anyway

Boogie Nights

He's an infiltrator.

>the 40 watt range

lol my toaster uses 1500watts.

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No bitch. You made the claim so show it. It's only 5 miles away from you, and you don't even know the name? Remember too that gun ranges aren't gun stores.

Haaaaiii YA!

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Why'd he call the shotgun a rifle? Are shotguns rifles? And why did he say rifles (plural)? Are machine pistols rifles?

glad to see my webm is still being used *tips fedora*

read it you lazy fuck

Robocop didn't have no laser sight.

I forgot the rifle at the beginning of the clip that he used. I guess that can exclude the uzi. Are shotguns rifles?

10,000 bc

Little shit.

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DA
OOZ-EE
NEIN
MILL-EE-MEE-TA

Spas-12

That's the shotgun. He's holding a rifle just before that and it's not mentioned.

The sound track and background music was absolute kino.

>The club music and music blasting on her roommates headphones

AR-18. Sort of a precursor to the AR-15 but a bit more complicated in design. Never sold very many domestically but were a hit with Irish terrorists overseas.

shotguns are a type of longgun, which would later on become called rifles, so yes technically shotguns are a subset of rifles

based post

Okay cool. Thanks, /k/. That's all I wanted to know.

Why did he say 12 gauge auto loader

>Long Slide

Wrong

That coffee's two hours cold, but I made it twenty seconds warm.

Spas-12 can be fired pump, semiauto or full auto. Its one of those scary guns that makes californians hide in their beds. Actually its heavy, delicate and unreliable, but hollywood loved it because its cool looking so it showed up in a lot of violent degenerate flicks.

To all the brainlets that think the power of the plasma rifle is on the order of a lightbulb: it's all about the time of laster pulse and total energy per pulse. 40 Watts is a fuckton of energy per pulse and it's pulsing on the order of nanoseconds. You'd be dead in a flash, kiddo

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I thought the main reason he asked about the plasma rifle was because none of the weapons he was buying had the power to stop him, so he was seeing if they sold something that did, just in case.

Lasers would work great as personal weapons if the other side would just be willing to patiently stand there, naked, while you very slowly cut them to pieces. There is a reason those things aren't issued to soldiers.

paul shart wall mart

Thanks, fren. All I wanted to know was whether or not "40 watt range" was soft sci-fi mumbo jumbo. Glad you cleared things up.

Does it toast with plasma?

It was a prop.

If its a plasma rifle it might be like the one Reece had during the flashback scene, where it fired pulses of high energy plasma. 40w of power behind that is considerable when heating up a ball of gas into plasma.

>To all the brainlets
>thinks watts is a measure of energy
>completely misunderstands linked paper on account of that
If the pulse energy were 40J then that would be a death ray, a 40W laser is a high grade medical laser like they use in dentistry. Those things exist and are man portable. How many military units use them?

>You made the claim
actully you did ;)

it's israeli so you can buy them in bulk

Gayniggers from outer space

in one of the deleted scenes of Aliens Hudson says they have the phased plasma rifles

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>Tarkovsky shits on every director and film possible
>somehow likes Terminator

Does this confirm T1 as the best in the series?

...

40W of laser is different from a laser that requires 40W to operate.

The terminator in T1 makes a whole range of tactical mistakes. It leaves its "apartment" with weapons drawn at one part. Unnecessary hostile to landlord. Breaks bouncer hand at tech noir instead of just paying, retreated from car crash instead of killing Sarah just there.
Why shoot the gun dealing why not just break his neck. Its not very good at lying low or infiltrating. Why directly assault the police station?

When GEOTUS says "wrong" is that where he gets it from LOL

are you retarded

it traveled to 2016 to learn the expression

youtube.com/watch?v=G3LvhdFEOqs

*tips my boomer fedora*

Who wins?

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are you serious

I know, I meant the beam energies not the power draw.

Still, pic related is a 20kW laser. That's 500 more powerful than a 40W laser and about 20 times more powerful than an industrial laser - it was basically useless and was cancelled.

Medical and industrial lasers work well because they are used point blank, so no meaningful beam divergence, and you can take your time - the patient or sheet of metal aren't going anywhere. Even then your goal is to cut - very thinly - not to remove a bulk of material. Which you would need to do in order to disable someone in a similar manner to a rifle.

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rolling to steal digits from this turbofag

SAYONARA, TERMINATOR!

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If you'd ever played robocop vs terminator you'd know that a single robocop can not only taken on hundreds, if not thousands of t-800s, but it can also destroy skynet entirely.
Robocop easily.

fuck you blizzard of oz is timeless, zoomers will latch on to it in 15 years unironically.

>fired pump
eh, does that mean slam fire? those are fairly rare to find nowadays, but definitely aesthetic

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easy tiger, no one was dissing it (at least, I wasn't)

FUCK YOU ASSHOLE

Judas

shotguns are rifles but they're not rifled, if you know what i mean

does the AI has to be perfect though? why shouldn't he make mistakes?
>retreated from car crash instead of killing Sarah just there
this one is arguable, a whole police force in an open area could have inflicted serious damage (it was already badly damaged from the crash) and could also blow completely is cover up, did it know for sure it had the right target?
but also Cameron will admit he does some things for show rather than out of pure logic
you can hear him talk about a "joke" the T-1000 makes here at around 0:36
youtube.com/watch?v=GYB6JcjWa0k

Click the box to the left of the word "anonymous" in your post, scroll down to the bottom right of the page and click the "delete" button. Thanks.

ive never seen this movie before last week. it was pretty good prime arnold.
i also saw raw deal for the first time not too long ago, what a bland movie.

what does it do

Makes sense, iirc it was intended to be like the AR 15 but easier to manufacture, I’m biased when it comes to the ra but there bootleg guns are something to behold

It deletes your post. Do the right thing.

>what does the "delete" button do?

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wtf

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>What you see is what we got.
There's been a few Terminator threads recently. Is there something I'm not privy to?

what a babe

First film was put on the Netflix recently

I think you mean freedom fighters

also speaks in a weird german accent instead of sounding american, maybe Skynet run out of budget in the voice generator program.

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>retreated from car crash instead of killing Sarah just there.
if it killed sarah there it would be caught, its first priority was killing sarah sure. but its second was to alter the timeline as little as possible, it was too much of a risk, when it was fully prepared there was no problem destroying the police station because it would leave no witnesses

Ya your right on that one the car crash. , My basic point is it does a ton of stuff that draws attention to itself.
Its supposed to be an infiltrator.

Could be to hide their bad voice technology. If someone is speaking in a foreign accent, you tend to be more forgiving of oddities and mistakes.

T1>>>>T2
very similar to alien the franchise was best when it was one killer entity, slasher horror like movie

The little known Predator prequel.

Cameron initial plan was to have Lance Henriksen play The Terminator and the idea was to have him be an infiltrator that tries to blend in
But when Schwarzenegger came into the production, Cameron decided to go with a more bulldozer approach, since the infiltrator part made less sense with a body like Arnold
what Cameron liked about Arnold was the physical presence he would bring to the screen
honestly it's all worth it for this scene, whether it makes perfect sense or not
youtube.com/watch?v=X3DU-7a8mP0

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Did Ed believe Reese?

bump

>Could be to hide their bad voice technology. If someone is speaking in a foreign accent, you tend to be more forgiving of oddities and mistakes.

No, its explained in another video.
youtu.be/kayFrIR-Qfw

40 WATTS THATS LESS THAN THE AVERAGE INCANDESCENT LIGHT BULB LMAO

WAS ARNOLD A LITTLE GIRLYMAN ALL ALONG

Killer Klowns for Outer Space

Only in states run by retarded democrats.

Just what you see pal.

He's also performing reconnaissance.

Was he retarded? I thought he was a robot. Did he not realize they didn't have that shit then?

That guy is adorably autistic

>POBODIE'S
>NERFECT!

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Termie lacks subtlety.

What about rifled shotgun barrels?

Quiet you!

>gun store
>in LA
>in the 80s
When exactly did California become so unbased?

That's what happens when you write your targeting routines in Apple II assembly.

Reagan keeping guns from blacks

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We serve food here, sir.

And Arnold of course had reservations about taking the role, fearing future typecasting as a villain. But Cameron and Arnold knocked it out of the park.

YOU'VE GOT ME BURNING
youtube.com/watch?v=_IPBgUKGdYk

this is great bait mate

Another reason is their capacity to blind. Blinding weapons are very illegal in the Geneva Convention.

Even Skynet realized T101 was kinda shit at infiltrating, that's why it invented Robert Patrick

I remember catching this movie on TV a while back and the part where Arnold just unloads on the woman was sort of cut out
like it was too brutal to show even though all you literally see is just Arnold shooting and the woman isn't even in the frame
I think it shows you how well done that scene is, that it has such an impact even though you don't see a lot

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Can confirm.

Was that the aforementioned 1986 move others have mentioned?

Probably had more to do with the shoestring budget. Blood squibs and electronic timing costs money.

Robert Patrick - "Say....that's a nice bike."

I don't see how it changes my point though, it's still a well done scene and more blood splatter wouldn't necessarily add much
but yeah it's true about the shoestring budget, this whole movie is a case study on how to do more with less
some scenes were shot without permits for instance

It is also remarkably bad at aiming given that it is a robot.

Gesundheit

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THATS THA JOKE

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Not a robot. A cyborg. Cybernetic organism.
All right, listen. The Terminator's an infiltration unit: part man, part machine. Underneath, it's a hyperalloy combat chassis, microprocessor-controlled. Fully armored; very tough. But outside, it's living human tissue: flesh, skin, hair, blood - grown for the cyborgs.

Dont listen to them, it's Karate Kid III

Well sometimes lack of budget brings out the genius in directors.