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How you holding up Yea Forums
Liam Kelly
Camden Adams
for you
Daniel Barnes
dmrrf
Cameron Ramirez
I can't go outside anymore because I feel I'm too ugly
Mason Hernandez
Liam Murphy
Sneed
Tyler Rogers
pretty bad, mang; I want to drop out of uni but dunno how I'll tell my mother
Gabriel Gutierrez
if dubs we all get a big tiddy goth gf
Nathan Hall
drunk off my ass, how about you?
Andrew Long
If dubs no one gets any gf
Noah Perry
Things have been rough, family member died and one of my pets had to go to the vet and has to be fed through a feeding tube. Not as bad emotionally and mentally as before. Just tired really.
Landon Brown
I've already planned my exit date
Caleb Edwards
Just finished Uni and I quit all the drugs I was doing and it's pretty boring on this end. I can't hang out with old friends either because they're all smokers and shit. I don't know how straight edge people do it life just seems so fucking boring without drugs
Gavin Wood
Drunk and high watching Gettysberg, I'm on side B
Logan Wilson
How the hell can someone look at this and think it was worth drawing.
Jordan Walker
What are you planing? The old Helium tank method?
Gabriel Lewis
do tell
before it
404s
Jaxon Ramirez
Spent like 4 hours trying to get to sleep, now have to endure a 9 hour shift with 4 hours sleep.
I know the day is going to be dreadful, and that my reactions will be even more sluggish than usual, making my normie co-workers dislike me even more for my non-existent social skills/dreadful attention span.
There is no worse feeling than rolling into a catastrophe but not being able to stop it.
Julian Stewart
Same
At the end of the day I really don't have any interest in the material or any college shitand I don't have any friends either so why go there everyday
At leasts it's free
Thomas Kelly
It’s of a finer quality than you could never fathom, nitwit.
Matthew Jackson
Hoping to lose enough weight so I can kill myself before my medical conditions get worse.
Hunter Wood
yeah I'm about to finish uni and since I had no idea I would make it this far I don't know what I'll do when it's over
I'm scared honestly
Connor King
same, but my mom spent a lot of money for me to fail a lot of classes
Aiden Turner
quite well
Gavin Cooper
I did that once but then I was too lazy and just kept justing
Brayden Murphy
>I had no idea I would make it this far I don't know what I'll do when it's over
Literally me user but don't worry it gets better. I'd recommend living with your parents for a year or two to save up and just focus on improving your health and mental well being. In College I was a complete degenerate binging on adderall everyday and smoking an ungodly amount of weed. I barely slept and just ate like a fucking pig. Once you get out of that Uni environment and start living like a normal human being again you will start to feel a lot better. Also this board makes waging out to be much worse than it really is.
Lincoln Baker
>tfw keep procrastinating suicide date
Evan Martin
Nitrogen bag. Wanted to do pentobarbital, but can't get a hold of it.
I have a nice, remote view picked out near the lake and I'm going to end my nightmare of an existence by going to sleep listening to some of my favorite music and thinking pleasant thoughts
Brayden Perez
pathetic
Hudson Baker
>normie
you're one of them faggot
Ayden Sullivan
If you're dead set on doing it user there's most likely nothing I can tell you otherwise just know there will be people quite sad with your passing
Thomas Bailey
Pretty shit. First day I went outside and stayed in the sun in backyard for a while and brushed my dog and cat but I just got a massive fucking headache for the rest of the day ever since I went outside. I have terrible allergies but sometimes I can't tell if maybe it's something to do with an ongoing chronic sinus problem that's lasted for years. Plus anxiety makes them worse but I know the headaches aren't from anxiety because when I'm chill they'll still come and go. They're bad enough to make me vomit and shake and not eat lots of the time and not be able to concentrate on anything.
Did MRI's and CAT scans twice each different times and can't find shit.
Kaiser Permanente Doctors here in Commiefornia, US are dogshit and you have to push to get anywhere.
Doubting God rn because he hasn't responded to me in 6 years haha.....
I drown myself in vidya now and shitposting and it unironically helos alot. Fuck being serious with anything. This last year of chilling and not doing much at all has been better than the last 6 miserable torturous stressed overworked years of my life..... This board unironically helped me socially, the waybyu guys joke, how you guys know lots of stuff. This board is much nicer and cooler than any social media platform out there and even most of my irl friends. What an ironic and shit world.....
gay blogpost over
Dominic Carter
I just found out I am the chosen one.
Adam Brooks
feelin' fine
Aiden Hughes
>Nitrogen bag
how does that work? asking for research
Aaron Davis
Don't worry, you eventually will
Adam Barnes
or... you could try NOT being a failure and wasting your 1 in 400 Quadrillion chance at a life you selfish prick
Cameron Jackson
>he thinks everyone who works is a normie
Not all of us have the opportunity to be NEET
Logan Collins
>normie
you're one of them faggot
Benjamin Perez
>selfish for doing what he wants with his life
how?
Brayden Lewis
>I'd recommend living with your parents for a year or two to save up
My father is the epitome of the 'bootstraps' mentality and I strongly suspect doesn't even believe in the concept of mental illness, just viewing everything as 'laziness' and so forth, so that isn't a realistic option for me and many other people here.
>Also this board makes waging out to be much worse than it really is.
No it doesn't. If anything, it's far too lenient. Only a born slave could possibly claim otherwise.
Henry Lewis
Eat shit, leave him be.
Jonathan Hall
post height and jaw
Jaxson Richardson
>nightmare of an existence
What, did you get raped a bunch as a kid? Did you become a quadruple amputee in a car accident? If it's anything like that then I can see where you're coming from but if it's nothing that extreme you're just a fag.
Matthew Reyes
Oliver Kelly
suicide is too risky. How certain are you that reincarnation is false? What if you reroll as a pajeet who has to scrape shit off the street extract minerals for a living. Way too fucking risky.
Aiden Sullivan
i might have some good news
Brayden Brooks
Fuck off, subhuman.
Luis Kelly
If reincarnation exists you take that chance whether or not you die.
Nolan Harris
I did try. Tried for years. This isn't impulse. I've put a lot of thought into it, weighed all the pros and cons. There is no anxiety.
All life ends eventually. I have no one dependent on me. There's nothing selfish about not wanting to ride it out.
Nicholas Roberts
you're gonna die anyway suicide or not who gives a shit
Alexander Gutierrez
very unkind to a decent lad. Sad!
Joshua Cruz
selfish to the thousands who came before him, those who are alive near and with him, and especially selfish to the poor fuck who'll need to haul his rotting ass out of the park.
no, how about you go do something good for once?
Tyler Collins
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Aiden Gutierrez
Same method as Helium, just a different gas that's much easier to obtain.
There's a company in Australia that even sells it for that very purpose.
Juan Bailey
>My father is the epitome of the 'bootstraps' mentality
American parents I take it? It seems so foreign to me that Americans simply prohibit their kids moving back in with them post college. Maybe you can just explain to him how it would help you? Would he even hear your case?
>Only a born slave could possibly claim otherwise.
Idk man by the end of this one internship I did last year it wasn't so awful you kinda get used to it after a little while. It's not ideal by any means but it's not such an awful miserable existence that drives you to suicide again just in my experience.
Evan Cruz
Fucking great!
>started playing Final Fantasy 14 Online instead of World of Warcraft
>nearly everything about the game is fantastic
>must've spent 90% of my time on crafting things, alone
>on a disability pension, bringing in those sweet NEETbux
>finally out of debt
>living in Bumfuck, Nowhere far away from civilization and normies
>taking heavy antidepressants
>they're actually working
>I have a cute widdle kitty cat that sleeps on a blanket next to my pillow
>tiny but cozy setup in an old caravan I cleaned the fuck out of
>have the basics - water, electricity, food, internet, all that good necessity shit
>even exercising each day to slowly whittle the wight off - during moments of what I laughingly refer to as "occasional bursts of anti-sloth"
>feeling pretty good
>eating almonds - unactivated
>drinking mineral water
>hardly ever hungry
>enjoying some things instead of being a grumpy cunt
>still a 42 year old virgin though
>mfw
Parker Edwards
Whatever ensues for you, I wish you peace, user.
Oliver Price
Make sure u keep us posted
Easton Bailey
>There's a company in Australia that even sells it for that very purpose.
maybe I should move there
Lucas Turner
yeah but in this case you reroll faster, so you might come back and scrape shit sooner than you want.
Bentley Ramirez
Explain.
Camden Reed
>selfish to the thousands who came before him
How?
>those who are alive near and with him
How?
>especially selfish to the poor fuck who'll need to haul his rotting ass out of the park.
Well everyone's corpse needs cleaning up eventually.
Angel Russell
Kill yourself normalfag. It's the regularness of life
Nicholas Harris
pffft, that's the weakest thing I've heard all fukin day mate, tell ya what, why doncha rent a hooker, try some blow, and go sightseeing, then off yourself by feeding yourself to the sharks so you weren't such a massive waste of resources.
Carter Martinez
Drinking too much. Wake up hungover most days and while just stopping is the obvious answer I usually reach for a hair of the dog that starts the whole cycle over. Generally I'm sober just long enough to realize that I'm losing control little bit by little bit before the booze lulls me into complacency. But enough about me, how my bros faring?
Joseph Richardson
I wish I had the passion to get back into vidya I just drop almost every game within like an hour. I wish I had an adderall script with those I can bing bing for hours
Brayden Brown
but it wouldn't be "you."
Jordan Mitchell
>subhuman
reddit tourist detected
Eli Morgan
If reincarnation is real then I always thought you climb up depending on how you lead your life and something like suicide would just lead you to some African aids tribe.
Michael Nguyen
Really really cringe.
Colton Bailey
>Drinking too much
Have you considered switching to weed user? They make these cartridges now that last weeks and get you absolutely blitzed. You can order them off the silk road (or whatever the equivalent is nowadays) for pretty cheap
Lincoln Morales
Went out for a doomer walk yesterday, started meditating on life and my anxieties. Went to bed feeling both melancholy and angry. I signed up for a gym a week ago but I've lost the motivation to want to push myself to go.
Jacob Foster
Nice going wizard user, post robes and hat
Lucas Gutierrez
>how
one day a weird monkey thing fucked another, about 2 million years ago, and that kept happening in sequene againt all odds so his sorry as could carry on the line and make something of himself, you're being a prick to them.
>how
I don't care how much of a fucking loser you are you can do some small thing to improve the world around you, instead of just offing yourself like a coward.
Brayden Campbell
Hey I had the same problem. 2 years of constant headaches, I had to drop off college. The thing that helped the most were antidepressants of all things. I also had chronic sinusitis caused by a deviated septum. Taking care of that helped a lot too. People don't understand what it's like to have 24/7 headache because there's no visible symptoms.
Noah Evans
It doesn't matter that you wouldn't be you. This is strictly measured on the basis of time. You might live a shitty life. Consider the alternate possibility that you simply relive the exact same life because you exist in a simulation which each human consciousness is an individual optimization process simply evaluating the next local optimal maximum.
Julian Reyes
fuck off to reddit you basic normie pretentious faggot cunt
god damn i hate you faggots with a passion. die.
Samuel Clark
open your eyes and heal thyself, also stop masturbating. (at least as much as you probably do)
Alexander Ramirez
>NatSoc
Shit tier meme ideology
Ayden Young
What are you dropping out for? To get an actual useful certification (welding etc) or to become a Guitar Hero? Mom should pretty easily understand the latter and fuck her if she doesn't.
Elijah Parker
pfft, I think of the two of us you're waaay more likely to die, by your own hand no less you absolute waste of oxygen!
Juan Barnes
Ah, ya make choices and ya live with 'em.
Justin Rivera
this image is pretentious tripe. these people don't even follow their own pretentious guidelines for how to live an allegedly superior life. multiple retarded spelling and grammar errors too. quaint.
Camden Foster
Imagine being this much of a normalfag lmao
Henry Roberts
keep telling yourself that.
Mason Thomas
Anti depressants? Wow, I'll have to research that.
Yeah mine are 24/7 too, from waking up to sleep. The pain's so bad it would be in my nightmares alot where my head is in pain in the dreams too.
Yeah they're so bad I had to keep dropping classes. My eyes get really really blurry with them too.
I'm seeing an allergist tomorrow. Might be a chance idk..... I'll look up the antidepressant shit. If anything I feel anxiety, not much really depressed but hey, if it works it works.
Jacob Cooper
>frog poster
reddit be gone.
Daniel King
If you're legit determined why not do something cool like Paddocking a DNC or something?
Samuel Wood
The drink chills me out to an extremely comfy level, weed has always made me an overanxious mess. I mean to the point where I'm so absurdly worried about saying something stupid that I turn into that weirdo who never says anything at all.
Asher Long
keep projecting, it's so tasty.
Austin Powell
>when the whole world has to team up to defeat you
Nazi Germany declared war on America and surprise invaded the Soviet Union no one teamed up on them they invited war on themselves through their shit tier foreign policy. Why do NatSoc always have a bullshit sugar coated understanding of Nazi history and ideology?
Jaxon Cook
I'm dropping out because I'm probably not fit for this level of education and the course isn't for me either. I have no idea what I'll do then.
Jason Baker
>American parents I take it?
No, but he's a Brit (Scot, no less) who believes Thatcher 'saved Britain' and views everything with that zero-sum view so beloved by Americans/psychopaths everywhere.
Camden Peterson
Imagine being this much of a doomer faggot
Ethan Robinson
Watching Signs with my gf, drinking some beers and stepped out for a smoke and checked Yea Forums. Pretty good. Remember abnormies are reddit9kfugees and are newfaggot cancer. Have a good night.
Joseph Campbell
I have no desire to.
Chase Ramirez
>I mean to the point where I'm so absurdly worried about saying something stupid that I turn into that weirdo who never says anything at all.
Smoking alone is quite different than smoking with friends. Also the high from THC cartridges is quite different than that of herb. Just a consideration it would do your health a lot better in the long run relative to alcohol
Oliver Kelly
>one day a weird monkey thing fucked another, about 2 million years ago, and that kept happening in sequene againt all odds so his sorry as could carry on the line and make something of himself, you're being a prick to them.
DUDE I FUCKING LOVE SCIENCE
FUCK YEAH, MATH!!
Carter Cooper
No thanks I'd rather just wallow in melancholia.
Colton Jenkins
it was free here but you should try switching to something you like or you're interested it, I dropped out completely and it's basically impossible to get back in
Sebastian Williams
FFXIV is based. Good job on quitting WoW.
Levi Walker
FITTER HAPPIER
Nathan Rivera
pic related is me
David Bennett
Who else getting their life together?
I have been exercising again and stressing less
I successfully just flat out quit junk food, fast food, alcohol and cigarettes. Still cant quit coffee, dont really feel like it.
Starting grad school this fall. Ready to bring my improved self there and smash some undergrad pussy
Ryder Hall
Don't like nazis but I like nationalism and socialism
Ethan Green
>declares war on U.S. aftr the U.S. declaration of war against Japan
>The entirety of the allied forces (even america in a limited capacity) wage war on you on two fronts
Hurr durr there was no team up I no mai historee gud!
Logan Long
Not him but 3rd reich had
>best scientists in thebworld everyone fought over
>built a beautiful empire out of 3rd world tier weimar destitute rwpiblic in record time no other people would be able to do so quick
>Literally the one thing thw entire world has to demonize and seethe and fearbover more than anything else while commies are literal dyel HRT LGBT feminine faggots
>All the world had to steal their scientists to do anything
JIDF say hi to Netanyahu for me
Blake Wood
What really scares me about this is I've thought about it. I've thought about it.
Jack Anderson
>I successfully just flat out quit junk food, fast food, alcohol and cigarettes
Careful with that user quiting all that at once cold turkey can lead to a hard relapse. If you can maintain long term that's great but maybe try phasing elements of the harder to quit shit like Cigs out slowly
Juan Stewart
I have been looking for the 2022 wojack projection for my steam profile? Anybody have it lying around their dead inside wojack folder?
Nathaniel Peterson
>ancestral respect and worship
>basic explanation of sapiens pre dating humanity making offspring
you think that's onions?
I think you might be confused
Jayden Wilson
>progress is good as long as it's built off the back of perpetual war
Go fuck yourself.
Carter Adams
>declares war on U.S. aftr the U.S. declaration of war against Japan
Nazi Germany had no obligation to declare war on America after Pearl Harbor. Their pact with Japan was strictly defensive in nature.
>The entirety of the allied forces
The only two countries that waged war on Nazi Germany was Britain and France and this was despite attempts at appeasement nonetheless. Nazi Germany waged war on two of the largest land powers at the time America and the Soviet Union
Levi Bailey
>one day a weird monkey thing fucked another, about 2 million years ago, and that kept happening in sequene againt all odds so his sorry as could carry on the line and make something of himself, you're being a prick to them.
Those monkeys are the ancestors of literally everyone and have already had millions of dead-end descendants.
>you can do some small thing to improve the world around you
What moral obligation is there to do this? Who owes "the world" anything?
Isaac Rivera
Youre right. I understand relapses well, it always happens to people whose lives are in the pits. Alcohol and cigs arent to blame, its a state of mind.
Ryan Williams
seethe
Bentley Brooks
What of the lemmings? Do you think they give a shit when they kill themselves in droves
Ayden Cruz
I'm so lonely. You guys are the only people I talk to. It helps to talk to someone but sometimes I wish I could talk to someone IRL
Gavin Bennett
Fucking retard it's 3 in the afternoon can you move your god damn """"depression"""" circlejerk threads to another hour so I don't have to see this stupid shit every afternoon thanks
Brayden Baker
Also in the ESP documents, they talk about the higher level of sharing info with another persons mind or like reading their minds or them yours, the greater vulnerability your head gets.
Be careful dummies, good chance it's not as one sided "only advantageous" as it sounds. Could end up opening yourself to higher entities that just wanna fuck with you that are way more familiar with using it.
Robert Morris
There's nothing worse than watching terribly educated, semi-literate NEETs espouse the supposed virtues of national socialism
To everyone with more than two brain cells to rub together ITT; get a good look at these subhumans. These are the cretins who are going to destroy the west.
Benjamin Smith
yknow what I take it all back people like you should definitely kill yourself, go right ahead
we aren't lemmings, they aren't sentient.
Noah Russell
>24
>have only ever been in school
>never had a real job, ragequit my warehouse summer jobs I got at age 21 and 22 after two weeks
>barely capable of doing anything on my own
>can't drive long distances
>only learned how to tie my shoes last year
>no friends, only people I care about are my parents
It ended before it ever began but I'm fine with that. Yes, there are 12 year olds with more agency and independence than I have, or will ever have, but I don't care. All I care about is my family. When they're gone I'll just go on a bender and drown myself in a river at the end. It sucks being a failure, but why cry over spilt milk.
Christopher Campbell
That's the thing. It seems I'm not really interested in anything there; I've taken electives from the art, economics and social departments (stemfag) and I always lose interest In those classes after some weeks.
The idea making films seem interesting but the truth is I don't even watch movies anymore
Kevin Rodriguez
That's crazy, you sound exactly like me a couple years ago. I did allergy tests, scans, ENT, chiropractor,etc. Some things helped, some did nothing. Some antidepressants worsened my situation at first so I had to adjust. I didn't start taking them because of my headaches though, I had a pretty bad depersonalization episode that lasted about two weeks which I told my doctor about and he put me on antidepressant. I didn't know I was depressed either. I guess your best bet is to try everything.
Benjamin Rivera
>best scientists in thebworld everyone fought over
Germany had a long history of scientific advancement long before the Nazis
>built a beautiful empire out of 3rd world tier weimar destitute
Germany was still one the largest economies in the world even during Weimar. Also the economic miracle is a meme that was built on the back of mass rearmament which could never be sustained. Their military spending reached 10%+ GDP during PEACE time for fucks sake. Wages of Destruction is an excellent book on this topic
>Literally the one thing thw entire world has to demonize and seethe and fearbover
Are the Nazis comically villianized? Sure. Does that make NatSoc a good ideology? No
>All the world had to steal their scientists to do anything
Again, Germans had a culture of education and scientific advancement long before the Nazis.
Easton Morgan
Aaron Clark
>nat-socs destroy the west
found the schlomo
Christian Hernandez
I don't feel like killing myself personally, I just don't like people trying to guilt-trip others out of it when they truly want to.
Jason Gomez
Pretty good. Bleh posting makes me happy
Aaron Brooks
>Greatest meme never told
Filled with debunked propaganda and inaccuracies. It's amazing how sheep like you fall for narratives so easy without any critical thought whatsoever
Hunter Roberts
Ever felt you're in an endless wagecuckery since you took a mortgage and you want to end it all but you keep thinking what will happen to your family after you die so you lie awake at ungodly hours dreading the morning sun when you'll have to go to work again and get pissed on by your coworkers and your only solace is the taught you'll see your family again after 2 hours of driving?
Yeah, I think I'm fine
Camden Moore
Livestream it for your old chums eh?
Nolan Wood
>health a lot better in the long run relative to alcohol
Or you could just not use drugs and take up going for walks everyday if health is your argument.
Tyler Gray
hmm, okay, let's compare notes
I have:
A doctorate in herpetology
A family
A fulfilling life
how about you?
Jace Harris
Refer to pic related user. This is the path of many NatSoc that I knew including me. If they are adults and fall for this shit there is no point in trying to convince them otherwise they will not grow out of it
Nathan Morris
I'm in a similar boat buddy, you're not alone. We're gonna make it
Jose Harris
>Or you could just not use drugs and take up going for walks everyday
You're right user we SHOULD but not everyone is capable of that. If you must have a vice you can do a lot worse than weed is all I'm saying
Caleb Mitchell
>hehe you dumb nazis are so gullible, no I'm not going to provide a counter argument you dumb sheep!
you're so enlightened
Bentley Hill
Why is it people who were once close to death are always more knowledgeable in the occult?
They don't seem like regular ol' superstitious idiots either, it's like they were pushed towards seeking out more and more knowledge rather than giving in.
Hunter Johnson
intentionally cucked 2 girls who were trying to get me jealous by flauting their sexual escapades/boyfriends, both ghosted me the moment they learned about my big tiddy fwb(they're chestlets).
Still trying to find a girl that suits me, or a girl that's outstanding that I be inspired for.
Guy friends don't share my sense of humor and I don't want to play LoL with them because that's the only game they know.
I wish I was back home where I'd fit in better since I'm working abroad.
Ethan Robinson
>doctorate in herpetology
that's pretty cool
Robert Turner
Original bleh poster here. Happy that it's putting a smile on someone's face
Christian Ramirez
Bentley Ortiz
I just want to point out I successfully single-handedly d-railed this thread, I ought to get an honorary Australian award or something.
Jackson Baker
>no I'm not going to provide a counter argument
You didn't make an argument you just posted a list of NEETSoc propaganda the first of which has been debunked long ago. Here is a thorough debunking of that shit tier doc:
imgur.com
But you're not going to read it anyway so why bother? You just want to fuel your confirmation bias
Dylan Rogers
not really sure, it held true for me
thanks it's a great job
Eli Robinson
i finally understand the law of vibration in the thought world
see ya lozers. Bye!
Xavier Lewis
>If you must have a vice you can do a lot worse than weed is all I'm saying
You could also do a lot better. Much better.
Isaac Reed
Connor Bell
just one day at a time. finished 1 year of my job so now only got 39 more to go
Nathan Rodriguez
>You could also do a lot better
What did you have in mind? What vice do you think is much better than weed?
Isaiah Gomez
I'm happy to read it, if my view is incorrect then I should move on, give me a minute so I can go through.
Brody Anderson
JIDF in every goddamned thread lately coming to derail anything with any "antisemitism" as priority. Even average liberals don't obsess about defending kikes this much to the point of replying over and over until the thread dies.
Jaxon Roberts
wait I've read this before, this is the guy who sources all his info from Wikipedia, look man, If I can't use it as a source on a term paper I'm not using it as a valid source to base my worldview off of.
Dominic Bell
Fuck, I slept 16 hours today and I had a bunch of errands that I needed to take care of.
Grayson Watson
i flunked out of uni and found this warehouse job thats horribly depressing and physically demanding and there's always more than 8 hours in a day
it's through a temp agency and i've been there 2 weeks but i think i'll be able to just stay there
the plan is to try to become as dead inside as possible working there but at least end up with a fit body
already lost like 7 pounds
Jacob Green
>you think NatSoc is retarded?
>YOU MUST BE JIDF DEFENDING KIKES
is this really how your feeble mind operates?
Chase Gray
now this guy fucking get's it.
Kayden Powell
Damn user you rock! I love the heavy graphite pencil on this one
Juan Fisher
I love how you types always say debunked when you really are just referring to a mere contradiction. Always telling, hyperbole.
Connor Bennett
seems to be what's coming to me
Colton Smith
it's always straight to ad-hominem with you people isn't it?
Robert Anderson
>be 14 browsing Yea Forums
>haha these guys are fucking losers good thing I'll not end up like them
>now 23, NEET no education or job experience
oh no no no it wasnt supposed to be like this bros
Joshua Foster
not well
Caleb Rivera
The entire post I replied to is filled with ad hom you low IQ retard. Your kind genuinely argues likes kikes
Oliver Diaz
ex-warehouse nigger here, if you're lifting by hand go get a forklift cert ASAP and get out of there to somewhere with more money on the line, learn about the management procedures instead and learn a trade in your time off(unless you're in the States lol gl)
Isaiah Brown
you should probably fix that
Cooper Nguyen
I'm not.
Julian Gray
I went shopping in the city and passed someone from high school.
She was dressed in smart business attire and taking a call while I was in an old pair of jeans carrying a bag of jap comic books back to my disgusting shithole of a home.
The comparison to me and her made feel sick.
Joseph Mitchell
>it's another thread devolves into NEETSoc political shit flinging
I genuinely hate what politics has done to this board you can't escape it anywhere you go
Noah Rivera
big if not a LARP
Lincoln Martinez
It really wasn't it claimed JIDF intervention. Ad hom would be more like
>JIDF kike fags in these threads sucking shekels out of their big dumb kike sniffers
or something like that.
Adam Peterson
Ok hows your resume looking user?
Colton Anderson
I DON'T WANT TO BE A VIRGIN ANYMORE I CAN'T TAKE IT
I WANT TO FEEL WANTED
I WANT TO FEEL LOVED
AAAAAAASAAAAAAAAAAAA
Benjamin Butler
> heh, I hate politics, amiright fellow redditors?
Henry Rodriguez
post a pic, I get a feeling you're not bad looking
Easton Thomas
I lost my virginity a few years ago user and believe me it doesn't really fix you.
Luke Gomez
well trust me user if an ogre like me can get laid so can you. Just aim lower
Christopher Stewart
I failed every single class this semester.
Studying is useless anymore
Owen Carter
same i even remember laughing at all the bisexual trap lovers and a few years forward i started obsessively jerking over shemale cocks
Jaxson Mitchell
>Replies with reddit shit
You out yourself simply by replying to everyone NONSTOP and you will until the thread dies like you've done on other threads. No matter who you are, you're obsession to reply for even hours to different people as one person outs you. Bye schlomo.
Hudson Ortiz
I'm not a centrist retard I'm just sick of kikes like you agenda posting all over this fucking board. You desperately need to go the fuck back
Angel Cook
I went to bed late once again
Joseph Williams
>injured my dick and now I can't fap until the 22nd
It's been 12 days already and I'm losing my mind.
Daniel Evans
>Aim lower
I don't aim anywhere.
I don't talk to anybody.
I have no friends, nothing.
Jonathan Butler
Same I tell myself everyday that I'm gunna go to bed early tonight and always end up staying up until 4-5am
Samuel Murphy
>like other threads
what? you think i have enough time to shitpost like this in multiple threads? fuck no this is an art that comes in small bursts, I can't keep this intensity up for long
Christopher Cox
I hate you r9k faggots
Jaxson Cooper
>If I can't use it as a source on a term paper
except you can, seeing as all of the sources of information are provided on the page.
Jack Bennett
Do you have any relevant work experience? Any certificates you can go study for perhaps?
Jace Baker
Same and worst part is i can't really explain what i do all day that i go to sleep at these times.
David Scott
although i understand the sentiment, i don't think OP should post a pic of his face.
even if he was ugly, that's okay because he's probably a QT
Jonathan Morgan
go back where? I come from here, i've been here since before you were born
Alexander Allen
>I'm not using it as a valid source to base my worldview off of.
But you're willing to base it off Greatest Story Never Told?
Ian Hall
I can smell the newfag on you a mile away retard you're not fooling anybody
Carter Harris
ive been in my warehouse slave job for a year now. soon the days become weeks, and the weeks become months. at least i get benefits..
Evan Jones
I did some work in home but that's all and no
Jose Ramirez
Exactly. I just am too used to this schedule, too bad the effects on my energy levels the next day are devastating. If I sleep early and wake up early in the morning I can even feel like a normal person
Juan Gutierrez
The issue is I go to bed late so I wake up late and the cycle repeats itself. I feel like if I can wake up around 10am everyday I'd be alright but I always end up getting up around like 12pm
Nathaniel Martin
A lot of self-steem issues are seeded in the blalant propaganda going on Yea Forums that preys on mentally unstable and insecure people.
I've seen the screencap of that (no homo) qt as twink on /pol/ who claimed to be an incel, it goes to show how bad this place is for the undeveloped.
Lincoln Mitchell
okay I'll be suoer honest with you, I opened my nazi folder and clicked on the first thing with a swastika, I've actually never sen the greatest story never told
Andrew Evans
Shut the fuck up you whiny bitch. What does that even mean. The problem is youre a self absorbed narcissistic introvert who thinks his problems are unique or substantial. Depression isnt real
Jack Williams
It's a vicious cycle where people feed off each others insecurities and promote it resulting it people feeling even more insecure. This website can be horrible for the mental health and well being of developing young men
Nathaniel Cox
Soldier on so you can come here and shit post with us.
Brody Wilson
oh yes please tell me about how I'm new, tell me abut how you're three months of browsing makes you an oldfag.
Camden Rogers
deep breaths nigga deep slow breaths. you'll get thru this
Jeremiah Ortiz
that's tough
some people seem to just have more energy
a lot of the time it doesn't even seem to be about ability or knowledge or skills or anything, just how much energy you have as a human
i think women kind of thrive better in certain white collar careers because they get like energy from it or something, they're just better at talking and networking and aren't afraid to just not be skilled at things; people skills get them places instead
which is not to say that you're not a pathetic piece of shit, you probably are, and so am i, but women do "have it easier" in some senses
Nolan Smith
user you seem like a good lad and I understand the appeal of ideologies like NatSoc I just think you should dig a bit deeper into it outside of this site and consider your affinity for it after said research. This place has a tendency to sugar coat a lot of it and omit the ugly parts. I'd recommend browsing /his/ for a bit you'd be surprised how misleading those infographics can be
Blake Cooper
>tfw finally 'making it' in my career
>still never really developed the proper social skills I needed ages 16-21
>have panic attacks before client meetings but still end up one of the loudest voices in the room
The Pete Campbell experience. I also havent texted my gf in a week because I'm paranoid she's cheating on me and I can't love her anymore. To be fair I'm cheating on her but still.
Gavin Fisher
I feel like I wanna quit my job, but I can't live without money.
It's a shitty situation.
Ryder Hill
ikr I'm in rare form tonight
Ryder Parker
seethe more bitch boy.
Dominic Martinez
>It's a vicious cycle where people feed off each others insecurities and promote it resulting it people feeling even more insecure. This website can be horrible for the mental health and well being of developing young men
Adding to that, most of the users are introverted and very gullible, they read and learn things on this site that sets an antecedent for situations they've not even faced yet and in which most cases leaves them predisposed to failure.
Dylan Johnson
>go into my spotify
>someone else was listening to nigger rap on my profile
i feel so violated
Luke Johnson
>B-BUT THEY ALREADY HAD A HISTORY OF IT
Ok, doesn't it make youbwonder how this supposed STUPID ideology was embraced by a nation with the best scientists in the world? Dine replying. You'd keep this up all day. It's your job anyway haha
Connor Rodriguez
>I'm paranoid she's cheating on me and I can't love her anymore. To be fair I'm cheating on her but still.
Hello fellow retard, if you think your gf is doing X is because YOU would be doing that since it's your first instinct to do so, not hers.
You already blew it but learn next time.
Grayson Morales
Very much so user it's young men with little life experience trying to tell other men with little life experience how they should live and how the world really works. I know there's little censorship on this site but it certainly has echo chamber qualities that reinforces beliefs and fuels confirmation bias
Henry Morales
cringe
Nathaniel Murphy
What if you force yourself to get up earlier so you're more tired at night?
If I do it I feel like absolute shit, by the night I'm TOO tired so I feel anxious and manic, waste too much time on insignificant shit or something always happens and end up in bed late again.
Someone just put a bullet in my head and set me free
Grayson Reyes
that's disgusting
i'd delete that account
Kayden Brown
well that's absolutely correct, I must aadmit I actually found /pol/ a fair bit after becoming nat-soc. Personally I ended up getting into it after reading julious evola, marcus aurelius, oswald spengler, and of course mein kampf.
This place is awful for any kind of self growth, it's just really fun.
William Brown
Holy fuck the exact same thing happened to me last year
Landon Adams
>normie
you're one of them faggot
Jaxson Sanders
>What if you force yourself to wake up earlier so you're more tired at night?
I've tried that as well user but for some fucking reason I end up staying up late regardless. I get this weird burst of energy real late at night that keeps me up shitposting it's like my circadian rhythm is all fucked up or something
Isaac Williams
based
Daniel Cook
Don’t do it. Just reinvent yourself, find a way to enjoy life. You could be anybody.
Parker Cox
If you're still there, are you in California? Does your Dad work at a plane parts building place? My Pa told me about a friend of his who's son had headaches alot like me. You'd know your Dad's name and the company if it's true.
John Johnson
time to whack out the bad dragon
Ryder Thomas
the female brain is far better suited to the modern, ant colony like of modern society, especially the ones in major cities where you come to contact with thousands of people per month. average male brain not only has poorer social skills and higher "cooldown" from hyper social situations but also needs more physical hunter like outputs which are usually looked down upon
Charles Barnes
cheers based sincere poster
Kevin Cox
>Personally I ended up getting into it after reading julious evola, marcus aurelius, oswald spengler, and of course mein kampf.
I think classical Italian Fascism and British Fascism has its merits just NatSoc in particular is extra cancerous to me. I've yet to have a reasonable discussion with somebody about it who hasn't misinterpreted it to some degree.
Kayden Young
>you could be anybody
platitude of the century
William Cook
Shouldn't have given your mom the password.
Elijah Myers
>get into a political argument
>lose all footing
...
>ugh centrist here btw don't you just hate all the political talk? fucking alt-righters am I right they shouldn't be posting opinions on an open Tiananmen shopping review blog
appreciate the metairony of picking a reddit pic for that post tho, nice
Christian Cox
>What does that even mean
kill yourself very young normalfag.
Chase Rogers
My advice to depressed anons:
read the book called The Conspiracy Against the Human Race, It will show you the right path.
Jeremiah Morales
im not sure why they would even bother i dont have money on there
Blake Lewis
>lose all footing
All the NatSoc ITT got their shit pushed in pretty thoroughly. Notice how they all cry JIDF and kike in response to substantial arguments
Chase Roberts
Been thinking a lot about quitting my job and walking across Europe with no real objective in mind for about a year.
Jose Fisher
>"today is the day, I'm gonna do something productive"
>refresh Yea Forums and masturbate
Its not fair bros what the fuck
Blake Gonzalez
Elaborate
Noah Jackson
sounds like a good way to get easy pussy
James Evans
that's absolutely understandable! nazism is used more as an umbrella term these days for any kind of ethno-nationalist or fascist. the issue of course is that there's about a million varieties of fascism with varying identities and beliefs.
However, for the sake of ease in conversation and the lovely unifying symbol that is the swastika, I refer to myself as a nazi, because otherwise you'll just get blank stares
Jonathan Allen
Literally me. I don't get what it is about this site but I can just stay on it for days shitposting. It's probably just my shit tier discipline
Xavier White
kek
Caleb Phillips
i started looking into esoteric philosophy at some point because i figured "there's gotta be something to this is people who say 'time is money' sacrifice time to do weird shit in robes or collect these books and read them". So what i found is that there is a wealth of information, old and new, and from various cultures that approaches the issues of life. I learned to take responsibility for shit even when it wasn't mine to take, and that was an important step in a slow process that i'm still going through. Not all days are as good but i spend a lot of time learning what i can do to force my mind and body to feel good, its really hard to feel unmotivated and shitty when you give yourself what you need and starve yourself from whatever acts like poison to you. Dealing with shit you dont wanna do but have to is a lot like being depressed, you just endure it and at the end of the day you're still alive. The only difference is depression doesn't lead you anywhere and undergoing things leads to new experiences which will enrich your personality and boost confidence. A bad idea you hold about yourself or the world that's keeping you from doing chill shit could disappear over night through an experience you have, alone or with others. Just as you judge a dumbass for installing dumb shit on your computer you should judge yourself (to a healthy extent) for running shit programs in your mind and actively work to replace them with better ones, if you don't know how then you sleuth until you do because that's what a human brain was made for. The phenomenon of neuroplasticity is a measurable proof of the fact that it's never too late to make meaningful changes
Nicholas Williams
i didnt mention the JIDF once
Grayson Gonzalez
Right in the first 'debunking' they claim the Germans sunk the Lithuania which is widely known to be false
Luke Flores
Not really my intention, and I'm nearly a 28-year-old virgin so at this point it doesn't matter that much. Just feel drained, and due to moral failings on my part can't look myself in the mirror any more.
Benjamin Morales
is it NatSoc in particular you identify with? Keep in mind it was very specifically an ethnic German supremacist ideology that looked down upon neighboring white ethnicities such as the Slavs in Poland and Russia. Classical Fascism is a much more unifying Nationalist ideology relative to NatSoc.
Samuel Nelson
>falling for a sideanon baitpost
Are /his/trionics really that gullible?
Brody Barnes
>Germans sunk the Lithuania which is widely known to be false
I take it you mean Lusitania? Also do you have a source on that "widely known" claim?
Henry Hernandez
Yeah my country has totally not been invaded by foreign occupiers it's those damn shitposts
Caleb Ortiz
personally I identify more with natsoc, but I can't say I wholly agree with it, I also quite appreciate classical and English fascism. Despite my admiration for these, though, i really think our world calls for a different kind of fascism than before seen
David Perry
>living your life with the fear that you might reincarnate into some form of worse life
Incredibly pathetic and spineless.
Asher Flores
>Yeah my country has totally not been invaded by foreign occupiers
Nobody implied otherwise. The whole point of our discussion was that this site can be bad for the mental health of developing young men due to its echo chamber like qualities and the negative effects it has on self esteem. Did you even read the thread
Isaiah Miller
Taking a standard meme out of context and circlejerking with another fellow ideologue of yours for half a thread does not constitute pushing anything in besides fudge.
William Martin
actually that really was me
Adrian Thompson
I'm preparing for my court date in a month for my disability case. At this point I'm motivated by pure spite, I refuse to stop appealing to the next level until I wear them down and get a favorable decision, and will never commit suicide until I at least manage to beat them.
Brandon Morales
My whole point is your blaming infrastructural imageboard design is an excuse to ignore the very real radicalizer that is the state of the western world. It's, forgive the expression, "cope".
Ayden Bell
what substantial arguments?
Wyatt Kelly
based
Blake Clark
Exceptionally numb/10.
Been trying not to think about my emotions but I just feel stressed and alone and aimless. I don’t know what I want in life and I’ve been by myself for so long that I’ve grown used to/accustomed to being solitary but the need for human romance/intimacy and closeness with someone keeps creeping up on me lately and I feel like a failed normal. I drown myself in films and television shows and fiction and watch other people live their lives and do things and be with others and I just feel like a lonely outcast and observer. All I do is daydream and imagine scenarios that’ll literally never happen. At this point I don’t know what could make me happy, and anything I even vaguely desire seems far out of reach and impossible. It’s getting harder to live, bros.
Chase Bailey
Ian Ramirez
inspect element
Logan Nelson
well are you disabled?
Adam Carter
>My whole point is your blaming infrastructural imageboard design
I never blamed the design of the image board for its echo chamber like qualities
Noah Myers
I don't know if this is what they call "existential dread" but I'm finding myself increasingly having these moment where my whole body kind of pulses with an extreme rage when I'm bored or something was a waste of my time.
Samuel Perez
I mean you can say that all you want but the reality is that wasn't a sideposter, I was the same guy talking to the fellow who linked the imgur. I'm just not that prideful and wasn't going to waste my time defending something I've never seen.
John Peterson
here:
Jaxon Reed
>Asking for sources on Yea Forums
Now I know you are a tourist, go back to r/Jewish where you belong. My source is the same as where the imgr user cited about the Danzig massacre being a hoax
Christopher Myers
So you have no source? Glad we settled that
Brody Thompson
Shoot yourself while in front of the judge
Blake Ortiz
Every day is the same. My dog's vet bills are getting expensive. My family is fractured. I'm just existing living cheque to cheque with no future.
Aside from my dog, you guys are my only friends.
Cameron Barnes
GAD and Crohn's, depends on who you ask. Every other day I'm laid out with abdominal pain and bloating, and my doctor doesn't have much else to say other than to take it easy and avoid triggers. It's not as bad as a lot of the more serious disabilities people have, but working has been a no-go since it started.
Owen Peterson
to be fair, I wasn't checking on the thread during
or
however I was the one talking to
my posts were
I did not once resort to ad hominem or personal attacks
Ryan Collins
Don't be a pussy. No one is beyond unjusting. No one.
Evan Wood
firstly have you seen the the movie the secret i only ask to get an idea of how much you know or think you know about the subject
Jayden Cox
in addition to my previous post, the two other posts you mention gave no sources to back any claims, as such I can't exactly call the solid arguments, because history isn't about opinion, and if I can't prove something it's worthless.
Hudson Morales
Ah I see. You're a good lad user you're one of the more reasonable NatSoc I've talked to on this site. It was nice speaking with you tonight
Xavier Nguyen
>complains about niggers
>uses spotify
Sebastian Nguyen
>the two other posts you mention gave no sources to back any claims
let me know what claims specifically you'd like a source for and I'll be happy to provide
Isaiah Turner
Nice speaking with you too, always a pleasure to talk to people with different world views.
Adam Lee
Sneed
Brody Smith
well i was using youtube before but thats not very reliable
Anthony Long
Nothing moves forward
Jaxson Russell
"28) Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest. 29) Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30) For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”
My heart goes out to the anons currently in torment on this board but I do want you to know that there is hope in this life for those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. Please come to him and be free from the shackles of sin. He will always accept you despite your condition.
Jack Morris
>Youtube
>Spotify
Jesus Christ, just kill yourself.
Lincoln Turner
>I'm so socially retarded lawl!
>I also have a gf and a side chick, what
Andrew Bennett
yeah yeah, ive been down the direct download hole. its not worth it.
Jason James
Oh thank you very much. I'm curious as to the nature of the pact between Germany and Japan and whether there's any indication of a change in it's nature following the U.S. declaration of war.
I also find the claim that the Weimar republic was one of the worlds largest economies somewhat dubious, of course I could be incorrect, but as far as I know that isn't the case.
Jason Morgan
someday all man will realize there is truly nothing more valuable than occult knowledge
Carter Rodriguez
Why the fuck does a person like you come this threads? Do you enjoy telling them how fullfiling your life is? Im not even an incel like this guys and youre attitude disgusts me more.
Hudson Gomez
i think you may want to check who I was replying to, I wasn't flexing on an incel, I was pointing out I was successful to someone who indirectly called me a low life.
Christopher Collins
How can you have such shit taste? You Chrome using, cloud uploading, streaming zoomnigger. How much of that is correct?
Adrian Cooper
Kill yourselves reddit9kfugee trash. The nightmare ends when you grow enough balls to end it you faggot lazy pussy garbage. DON'T DRAG THIS THING OUT.
Colton Collins
You're worse than they are. Kill yourself.
Anthony Gutierrez
>tfw I've been almost completely apathetic about my existance since I was a kid
I wish I hadn't been born in a first world country at the end of the 20th century, I live without compulsion and in absolute superfluousness and I can't stand it. The day that nuclear flames engulf the earth will be the happiest day in my life.
Connor Thomas
I'll accept money from strangers. I won't beg for it, or do anything degrading, but if you guys want to give me money I won't refuse it at this point.
Jeremiah Adams
>I'm curious as to the nature of the pact between Germany and Japan
Sure:
>Japan had not informed its ally, Germany, in advance of the attack, although the Japanese ambassador had informed the German Foreign Minister, Joachim von Ribbentrop, at the beginning of December that relations between the US and the Japanese Empire were at a breaking point, and that war was imminent. He was instructed to ask Germany for commitment to declare war under the terms of the Tripartite Pact should that occur.
>According to the terms of their agreements, Germany was obliged to come to the aid of Japan if a third country attacked Japan, but not if Japan attacked a third country. Ribbentrop reminded Hitler of this, and pointed out that to declare war against the US would add to the number of enemies Germany was fighting against, but Hitler dismissed this concern as not being important,[2] and, almost entirely without consultation, chose to declare war against the US, wanting to do so before, he thought, Roosevelt would declare war on Germany
You should also keep in mind Germany's own rationale for declaring war on America was based:
>in response to what was claimed to be a series of provocations by the United States government when the US was still officially neutral during World War II.
en.wikipedia.org
>I also find the claim that the Weimar republic was one of the worlds largest economies somewhat dubious
In 1920 Germany was the fourth largest economey in the world based off this
en.wikipedia.org
Eli Stewart
Aiden Bell
More like HERPEStology, you gaylord faggot. get a
Logan Green
>letting a dog lick your face
the fuck is it with people
Charles Jackson
this unfortunately just temporary sexual aggression subsides,a few years later and it comes back. Just left me heart broken after a good year desu,still feels amazing.
Nicholas Watson
Get rid of the evil inside you, and your adjust your behavior to be more accepting and wise, and you'll be loved.
Isaiah Reyes
>just temporary sexual aggression subsides,a few years later and it comes back
Honestly I feel like your virginity grows back after a few years.
Bentley Robinson
Let’s see.
I’ll be a 28 year old virgin in 19 days.
Hunter Roberts
Hes right for the most part,do you know anyone that can say they follow the ideals in that picture to a T? I hate niggers too but most black sun NATSOC faggots i have met are weak willed/devoid-of-integrity spineless faggots. It sucks cause on paper it sounds awesome but no one sees it through.
Jaxon Powell
wizard powers soon bro sit tight
Dominic James
Imagine saving this image
Asher Foster
get a what?
I agree that it's not something a lot of people reasonably would see through to the letter, but that's part of the beauty, it's an ideal to strive for.
Ryan Anderson
>it's an ideal to strive for.
but you can strive for all of that without the NatSoc autism
Jeremiah Wood
>DUUDEEE THERES KIDS STARVING IN AFRICA RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE SADDDD
do you realize how fucking STUPID you sound?
Jaxon Morgan
My Matrix fever is back, it's okay. Also been on antidepressant drugs for 6 months helps a lot.
Henry Rodriguez
quite interesting, while I'm generally not a fan of wikipedia as a source I'm not going to ignore the info.
I suppose the intervention of germany in my eyes while not explicitly a piece of the pact is what one would expect from an ally. That's how I view it, at least.
So far as Weimar Germany goes, that's deeply nteresting, from that I'd have to think the significance of the economical change comes from how that money was being generated in the Weimar republic.
depends, I personally find it a good addition, there's a lot to like in the ideology
James Scott
I have accepted suffering as a part of life.
Nicholas Fisher
he sounds naive but you sound entitled
Ryan Watson
That was an urban legend
Henry Gray
>while I'm generally not a fan of wikipedia as a source
It was the most accessible one I can find. I can dig up more on that to corroborate everything but I think the citations at the bottom of the page do quite a good job of that themselves.
>the intervention of germany in my eyes while not explicitly a piece of the pact is what one would expect from an ally
Sure I understand the rationale it just wasn't required of them per the terms of the pact.
>So far as Weimar Germany goes, that's deeply nteresting
You have to keep in mind even in the depths of Germany's slumps during the first half of the 20th century it was still an industrial powerhouse and major world power.
>from that I'd have to think the significance of the economical change comes from how that money was being generated in the Weimar republic.
As far as I'm aware Germany was largely an industrial based economy during the first half of the 20th century. How do you think the money was being generated?
Mason Gray
>there's a lot to like in the ideology
Like what?
Evan Murphy
Probably going to kill myself before that.
Alexander Nguyen
traditional family values, the emphasis on nature and environmentalism, stylish military units, an emphasis on cultural appreciation and being close to one's roots, the idea that just because someone is different they aren't lesser, and that your differences make them respectable, and by that merit that every peoples should retain its own ethnic land and culture, the idea that international corporations and bankers are an evil that needs to be disposed of. I could go on for hours to be honest
Matthew Ortiz
Do you ever feel like you just want to go about your business and not bother anyone, and like no one else out there is genuinely like that.
Like you genuinely don't want to assert dominance or compete with others; that part of you that would make you normal is seemingly missing. Yet you also feel completely content with yourself and like yourself. You just don't feel the need to bother anyone unless they're attacking you. And people somehow look down on that quality or think it's abnormal or weak
Cameron Kelly
Absolutely nothing, objectively. It's a puppet scheme.
Follow your own ideology or become someone else's slave.