Explain this, I can't really understand all the praise about it
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Who cares Paco.
No kino can give you taste, you have to bring that with you.
End of evangelion ending is non canon. Series ending is canon. Anno made the flick just to shut up the retarded weebs who death threated him cause they didnt like the original one. Thats why the ending of the movie is the comolete opposite of the series ending
It's about how being a chad is best for everyone around you and not to get hung up on little trivial details that bring you down.
they seem to go hand in hand in my opinion, i did like the series ending sequence better though. explain how it's the complete opposite
>opposite of the series ending
Worst bait
are you familiar with Hideo Kojima games? well this shit is practically the same formula: is a "bio-mecha" anime with stupid Star Trek TechnoBabble and the creator manage to insert his stupid existencial dilemas while writting thje episodes ON THE FLY.
He run out of time and money by the END so the last TV episodes are actually just a clipshow with senseless pretentious shit.
He got the money to make a Movie to END the series as he planned but spend all the budget in the ASUKA VS 9 EVA fight and run out of money for the ULTIMATE SHINJI EVA01 DEMON FORM FIGHT so he repeated the same clipshow shit formula again for the seconda half of the movie...
yeah, the series is SHIT but everyone praises because they think is something DEEP but actually is just CONFUSING nonsense that the creator just added because it was cool.
Japanese people can't be weebs.
>stupid existencial dilemas
>senseless pretentious shit
>actually is just CONFUSING nonsense
so you didnt get it and you have to call it stupid to salvage your ego?
It's a pretty typical story about a young boy learning to accept the responsibility of being a man. The really interesting trick to it, though, is that it's wrapped in a package that is a bait and switch for the audience that most needs that kind of message: otakus, NEETs, and the like. It starts off as just cool fighting robots and waifus but then slaps them in the face with the "stop being a pussy and actually do something with your life" message. It creates this interesting paradox where the people who most virulently hate it are its target audience.
I like the series but only the comfy parts.
But otaku are doing something with their lives. Anno was an otaku and he made one of the most influential anime of all time.
this theme is definitely in there, but this is a pretty surface level analysis, there are much deeper themes going on
As a 30 year old I cant really identify with Shinji.
He is a pussy ass weak bitch.
don't pretend you get it, the reason they still coming with more a more stupid EVA reborn rebirth death 9.0004 Movies is because stupid people like you actually digest this idiotic media.
>because they think is something DEEP
only retards who didn't understand the show think it's deep. The plot and themes are straight forward and easy to understand with all the weird and unconventional shit being mostly just lore/background
Yeah, that's the point. He stopped being a useless otaku and tried to do something with his life. He tried to encourage others to do the same.
i'm not planning on watching anything beyond the main series and the movie, i dont really like anime. i did get it and i liked it a lot. maybe when you grow up and gain the capacity to follow along with something beyond spongebob you'll get it too.
It's a metaphor, you dunce. Shinji is the scared boy who wakes up his superIo (the Eva) in order to clean mankind.
Eva01 is a clear reference to Eva Braun, when the mecha goes berserk it basically become Hitler.
kek
But there's nothing unusual about otaku creating things.
It's an analog and precursor to the deep state and secret government that is planning the Breakaway Civilization by assimilating all of humanity into a single consciousness.
Remember being a teenager and over thinking everything and worrying about everything and caring about other peoples opinions?
Also you have to be in a giant mech.
Okay, this is epic
Honest question. I feel like I 'got' all of it and enjoyed it, but I don't understand the very final sequence of End Of Evangelion. Why does Shinji try to strangle her? Why does she touch him then call him disgusting?
Because he's finally committing to something but cant do it, as usual?
or maybe alex jones just got blazed and based his theory off the show
Noone does except from the EVAfags
She knows he jerked off to her and is secretly into it.
No one really knows since it isn't explained, but most likely Shinji wanted to know if they were truly out of the tang or not and by her touching/resisting him means that she had free will so they were out of the tang.
>He got the money to make a Movie to END the series as he planned but spend all the budget in the ASUKA VS 9 EVA fight and run out of money for the ULTIMATE SHINJI EVA01 DEMON FORM FIGHT
Read the manga. It actually has this shit. It's pretty wild, even if it kinda misses the point I think
I actually like the ending to the series better than I like End of Evangelion. Why does Shinji strangle Asuka at the end? What has happened to earth?
It makes sense in the tv series: everything goes orange goo and then reforms because Shinji decides life is meaningful and worthwhile. End of Evangelion shits all over his recovery and puts him and Asuka right back into self-loathing. It's retarded.
>Read the manga
fucking nerd
>"it sounds cool and mysterious I guess"
I just summarized half the plot for you.
Or dont. Theres no need to be mean :(
the real question is whether it is the first mainstream anime to show a handful of someone's jizz
only a true genius would admit that
it started the gay tradition of anime just throwing in judeo-christian themes and tacking on random german words for absolutely no reason
*only an old incel would admot that
did the netflix EoE at least have Komm Susser Tod?
But it's so cool.
Nobody cares whether I live or die. Nothing will change... so they can all just die...
Wrong. Completely wrong. Yes, Anno wanted to troll his fans with EoE, but it is not different thematically from NGE.
In fact, EOE is literally meant to be complementary to the final two episodes of NGE, which is why the title cards are 25' and 26'. While Third Impact/Instrumentality occurs in the real world and Tangs everybody's consciousness into one super-organism during EOE, NGE's last two episodes occur in Shinji's mind as this occurs, which causes him to initially accept and later come to reject Instrumentality.
You fuckin brainlet.
Series ending shinji accepts the instrumentality and in the movie ending he doesn't. Thats how I understood it anyways. In the series he accepts everyone else including himself tearing down the walls around everyone which is the entire point of the instrumentality project. In the movie he literally tells the Lilith/Adam he doesnt want the instrumentality to continue because he knows he will keep going back to his old shut in state. His nonacceptance of Aska and the purple hair chick further shows this.
At the end of the day apparently there were a dozen endings planned so we just got two of them. I dont mind multiple endings but I enjoy the series one more
I wouldn't be surprised. SEELE is basically the Deep State.
well Mr. Straigh forward dude, can you tell me why Shinji is strangling Asuka in he last scene of the Movie?
Watching episode 1 and 2 now. Im supposed to thin Shinji is a little bitch for not wanting to fuck that party girl right?
Ancient Aliens.
Earth is seeded by one lifeform, Angels with the Adam host.
The Lilith host also lands on Earth, and she hosts the Lilin (Human) lifeform.
They clash, Angels are subdued by the superior human race, and time passes. Lilith is dormant, Adam is subdued and also dormant.
SEELE is an ancient human organization, practically the illuminati jewry. They literally start world war 3 and assume control as the new world order in it's aftermath. They now start to artificially evolve themselves into Gods, having access to the ancient alien artifacts that allow them to do so. They have found Adam and Lilith.
Rei Ayanami is in reality Lilith, the host and goddess of mankind in a way, who is suppressed and inserted into the body of a human being. She meets Shinji, who is the protagonist, and the focal point of the show. The story has this rich background whilst being all about defining the human condition and it's need to be social, despite the pains it brings. It's also a warning against escapism, particularly among otaku.
Shinji is a frightened, cowardly boy who is afraid to connect with others, yet feels the need to be loved. He connects with Rei Ayanami, and they bond deeply. Through this bond, in the finale, they are able to reconnect in the midst of the apocalypse and essentially foil SEELE's plan to destroy mankind as we know it by reducing it to a single organism.
It's pretty clearly there to wrap up the final themes of the show. After what's presumably a fair bit of time alone, judging by the graves he's constructed and whatnot, Asuka arrives. Shinji, in typical fashion, rejects her. He's still scared of interacting with others. The hedgehog's dilemma. In his trauma, he attempts to strangle her, push humanity away, isolate himself. Despite this violence, Asuka caresses his face. It's a summation of the show's central message - in spite of the pain and suffering people cause to one another, humanity is still worth something, there is still good in interacting with others. A very stripped down version of episodes 25 and 26 if you will. It's that caress, and the realization (subconscious or not) that makes Shinji break down.
The final line spoken by Asuka is ambiguous, but I've always taken it as her calling Shinji out for trying to strangle her, for crying, for breaking down, for being the same person he was throughout the show. They're still the same people. They have a lot to work through.
I do quite like that the "cover" of the movie is what takes place immediately after the ending, though - the two of them on the beach, together.
Yes
You are a very sad person.
>Literally optimistic vs. pessimistic ending
>go hand in hand thematically
How high are y'all.
Shinji being a little bitch is a good part of the point of the narration.
this sounds pretty gay 2bh
So how do hedgehogs fuck then
the show is about existence/god/consciousness. the universe is infinite and has cyclical elements. if consciousness is one, then it has nothing to compare itself to, so it has no identity, it is like everything and nothing at the same time. there are cycles where the one consciousness separates itself into different souls so that it can know itself. when there are multiple souls separated, they do not know each other, so they experience themselves as a separate entity only by seeing themselves apart from others. this phenomenon allows the soul to experience pain and fear and all the other emotions that the characters go through. shinjis story, and everyone else in the show, is about the process of realizing that you are this separate entity, and learning to live and experience life as that entity. the ending of the show/movie was the coalescing of the individual souls back into the one consciousness, losing their temporary individual identities, but shinji decided that he would rather just go on living out his individual life and experiencing that. he says in the end that questions of who he is are always gonna be there, and that's because our identities are only informed by separation, and by accepting our role, then we truly start living life.
badly, they scream a lot
It just annoys me that people treat Evangelion's message as the word of god that Anno graciously decided to share with us mortals. Some people just don't like dealing with other people, and they don't have to.
EVERYTHING THAT MATTERS TO ME MATTERS IN THIS WOOOOORLD
Git gud retard
They are the same thing from different perspectives
Shinji did it because she wanted to confirm she was a real, separate person. He was also angry and frustrated at her, just like she is at him.
But, instead of reacting and belittling him or trying to resist like she normally would, she caresses his cheek, an act of affection and intimacy she never openly displayed before and which takes Shinji so off guard that he starts bawling uncontrollably.
Her response of "How disgusting" is incredibly layered and open to interpretation, the most prominent being:
1) She knew he jerked off to her in her comatose state (since their minds/souls were "one" in Instrumentality) and was admonishing him for his disgusting actions.
2) It serves as a fulcrum for the whole point of the show which is the difficulty of human relationships and specifically the Hedgehog's Dilemma, wherein the more open with another person you are about yourself as a way of expression trust and affection, the more open you also are to getting hurt by that person. Asuka defies Shinji's expectations by showing an act of kindness during a terrible time and when all logic points to the person being a cunt from past experience, and yet still decided to be kind and vulnerable. It shows the duality and unpredictability that comes with navigating relationships.
3) "Kimochi warui" can also be translated as "Makes me sick". What this particular interpretation implies is the previous two but also hints that Asuka might be pregnant ("morning sickness") since the two most incompatible people in a relationship can still reconcile their differences to create a true miracle: a new life. Hence, the "Rebirth" part of the"Death" or "Detruction" that takes place in EOE.
The mecha battles and Christian symbolism is all window dressing for an excellent character drama that explores depression and the difficulty of navigating interpersonal relationships. It's kino.
He rejects Instrumentality in the series ending. That's why the last scene is everything shattering right before "Congratulations". If he accepted Instrumentality, he would have remained in the endless white void with no constraints. He realizes that this isn't what he wants though. A lack of sadness and pain isn't happiness. Happiness can't be achieved in the absence of pain and others, and he accepts that he wants to be in the real world, with other people, even if that means that he will be hurt, because as long as he's alive there's a hope for something better, and it all starts with loving himself.
probably but for some reason i feel good i didn't get "dragged" into the fool nonse and theories everyone is making from this series, but actully help me to search about the works Anno was inspired by, for example Harlan Ellison and other Science fiction books.
This girl being moderately attractive, outgoing and has nothing but fast food and beer in her fridge tells me that I should try and insert my penis. What comes afterwards is not my concern. Shinji is a nerd.
They don't. That's a choice that people can make, but it's the cowards choice and rarely leads to happiness.
rejecting instrumentality is pessimistic & optimistic because life is suffering but you have to power though. remaining goo is the easy way out. the congratulations isn't because Shinji's life is now great but because he's chosen to live even though it will be painful
You're a coward if you don't like the same ice cream that I do or listen to the same bands.
No shit.
The fact that there are sources of inspiration adds nothing to your points.
You are just an idiot thinking that someone that liked Evangelion back then would not know that picture you posted.
Tip: you are way, WAY less intelligent than you think.
Are we supposed to side with Shinji for being so "deep"?
>tearing down the walls around everyone
EoE is in effect The Trial from The Wall.
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No, you're a coward if you're a shut-in NEET with no connections to anyone in the world. Living a life of isolation because you refuse to connect with anyone on an emotional level is a negative thing. At best you are a coward, at worst you are just a shitty misanthrope. If you live a life without love, friendship, and family it isn't a good life no matter how hard you try to justify and rationalize it.
>Are we supposed to side with Shinji for being so "deep"?
Is not Shinji himself that is implied to be deep.
How can one misunderstand so badly? How old are you? Are you functionally illiterate?
What the fuck man
>you're a COWARD if you don't have the same preferences as me and live life the way I do!
I don't know how the fuck people can develop ideas like this.
this. get in the robot.
Lol loser.
You cant live alone
Enlighten me.
Shinji is placed in a position to actually matter, have enormous status and women are throwing themselves at him. All he needs is a bit of down time where he gets some drinks, tends a garden and maybe some alpine skiing.
He is the luckiest boy in the world.
but he didnt invent those ideas, and i think most people who understood what he made know that he didnt invent them, he just made a show about those ideas. why do people like you have to make unnecessary drama about shit?
>wah wah, people think they're so smart and they shouldn't actually care about this wah wah
instrumentality/guf is the Zero, the undifferentiated pre-cosmic void
SEELE wants to return humanity to sludge because individuality is pain
angels are monads (1), humans are dyadic (2)
angels are like pure cartesian cogitos, Inward, recursive and alone
humans are Outward, shaped by their relations with others
the first shot of the OP is literally God expanding into nature/differentiation
loneliness is inescapable, selfhood is a gordian knot in the tang ocean of never-was
>you're a LOSER if you aren't dependent on other people all the time!
What unnecessary drama was I making? People constantly cite Anno as if he is absolutely right about everything.
>he doesnt understand NGE's ending
what you havnt had baby's first existential crisis yet?
Here faggot: youtube.com
Reread what you write you dumb fuck.
>Are we supposed to side with Shinji for being so "deep"?
And reread you last post.
You ARE functionally illiterate.
Shinji is emotional abused and isolated so that when the time comes he'll choose death and accept becoming tang turning everyone else with him, so that he will finally be connected with everyone and no longer have to live as himself which he hates.
all so his dad can be with his dead wife again
you said what i said earlier but with way less words, nice. i was almost starting to wonder if i was reading way too much into it judging by some of the other reactions here
Have fun dying alone and unloved.
Good points. I will clarify and add some more lore:
The First Ancestral Race sent out eggs or seeds in order to evolve life in other parts of the galaxy or universe. Within these eggs or "moons" are two gifts of evolution or "Seeds of Life": the Seed of Power, which creates singular beings of unimaginable power via their AT Fields (a literal energy projection of consciousness as a type of electromagnetic energy), and the Seed of Knowledge, which enables a species to eventually evolve into many that share their intellect with each other and become dominant that way. Adam's Moon (the "White Moon") lands on Earth first (in what is now Antarctica), and with his Seed of Power starts to manifest his progeny (the Angels). This is also known as First Impact and happened 4 billion years ago when the Earth was still forming; the sheer cataclysm of the impact sent up enough debris from the still nascent Earth to form its only satellite, our Moon.
However, Lilith also lands on Earth soon after in what is now southern Japan. Nicknamed the "Black Moon", it too begins to create life (it is a Seed of Knowledge type). Because the FAR did not want to create a race of godlike beings with both knowledge and power like themselves, they created a failsafe should the two different Seeds land on the same world. That failsafe involved an inhibitor that prevented the Seed from jumpstarting life; Adam's in particular was called the "Lance of Longinus" and prevented him from spawning his progeny. The reason Lilith's didn't activate since she was there second was because hers was damaged in the crash. And so she was allowed to spawn her own progeny with her Seed of Knowledge which eventually evolved into modern humans. Thus, we are collectively the Lilim, the final Angel spawned from Lilith's blood (which is LCL and the primordial ooze that started all life on Earth).
Are you acting this way because my ability to live alone makes you feel insecure about yourself?
Shinji is being taken advantage of. He is also in an incredible position of power. Women are fascinated by him. Men probably want to be him. He only seems weak because of his shy nature.
The whole point of this anime is teenage insecurity and young boys blooming into men.
Yes society expects you to sacrifice yourself for the greater good but it also worships you if you "man up".
>he wasn't completely mesmerized by the mass production showdown animation
I'm sorry, you have little to no taste.
SEELE as an organization began as an Illuminati type group who discovered the true "Dead Sea Scrolls" (seen in the anime opening), translated them from the original FAR language and began looking for Adam, whom they found frozen in ice at the end of the 20th century. The founded NERV as well and purposely made their base where Lilith's Moon resides. They funded the Katsuragi Expedition and took DNA from Lilith and removed the Lance of Longinus from Adam, combined their DNA and caused "Second Impact", which was only stopped when Katsuragi himself removed the Lilith DNA from Adam, which prevented a godlike being from emerging. He and everyone else except his young daughter died int he process, the Earth's oceans were left uninhabitable and over half the world's human population died as a result.
Despite this, SEELE still wants to bring about Instrumentality, which they believe (correctly) will turn them into godlike beings, but all of Adam's spawn must be defeated first, which return to Earth as Angels of destruction, whose own objective is to reach Lilith in Terminal Dogma and bring about the eradication of humanity for indirectly preventing their hegemony of the Earth.
so what exactly was I supposed to get out of this show?
I remembered when I watched it that it was just a bunch of robots fighting aliens. don't recall there anything being deep about it that everyone seemed to make out it was supposed to be
Here's your Asuka, bro.
Nice bait mate
read these
Rebuild is the.canon ending, followed by pacific rim
Misato is just as much of an emotional cripple as all of the other characters. She uses the superficiality of sex as a dopamine boost to cope but never fully commits to a relationship because she is just as scared of being hurt as anyone else.
I used to be a pseud and then I realised that life is way too short. Id just fuck her and drink beer.
reject communism, dont be tang, believe in yourself, Row Row Fight The Powah
Not him but it's basically shinji reaffirming to himself that he's no longer in instrumentality, with him strangling asuka then her caressing his cheek displaying how, since both people have acknowledged each other, they reaffirm to them selves that they exist and pain can be felt again. He strangles her because for that moment he lapses back into the 'attack whatever's causing me pain phase' then stops when she caresses him. Least that's how i interpreted it
Different user here. I pity you. I pity anyone who rejects emotional connections with others because they're afraid of being hurt. It's very sad and one day you'll grow up. Or maybe you won't, and you'll be obsessed with I, me, mine forever and die forgotten and alone.
It's our connections with other beings that give our life meaning and purpose. Rejecting meaning, happiness, and purpose because you don't like feeling vulnerable is a very childish, sad trait.
Your aggression towards people criticizing your way of living demonstrates your own insecurity regarding your life. I have good friends, and a family I'm close to. What do I have to feel insecure about? I'm actually happy. I've never met someone truly alone and happy. At best they just become comfortably numb.
he finally grew a pair of balls
>I pity anyone who rejects emotional connections with others because they're afraid of being hurt.
Yes, that must be the only reason that could exist. After all, based Anno said so in his word of god known as Evangelion.
>It's very sad and one day you'll grow up.
I'm far older than you, child.
You are the ones being aggressive towards me and it's incredible that you would attempt to claim otherwise.
>I have good friends, and a family I'm close to. What do I have to feel insecure about?
Yet you fly off the handle because some user chooses to live alone. Why would that be?
here's your Vegeta bro
stop pushing people away, you're only hurting yourself. dont end up like me, suiciding next week
I can live alone if I want to and there's nothing you can do about it.
>I'm far older than you, child.
Well for all your age you've learned nothing, and you're on the same level as a 12 year old shyboy.
>Yet you fly off the handle because some user chooses to live alone. Why would that be?
Laughing at a retard isn't flying off the handle, user.
You're an emotional cripple. Hope this helps.
>I'm far older than you, child.
are you one of those 10,000 year old fairy princess trapped in the body of a balding 35 year old fat diaper wearer?
but what is the "yourself" you're believing in?
>Well for all your age you've learned nothing, and you're on the same level as a 12 year old shyboy.
You sure are real fucking triggered by an anonymous person choosing to live alone.
>Laughing at a retard isn't flying off the handle, user.
You aren't laughing, you're clearly upset.
You're blaming me for your own problems, hope this helps.
I'm sorry to hear that you are balding and wear diapers, but that has nothing to do with me.
Is it ever explained what Lilith's failsafe was?
I mean you're dependent on us by posting here
Based
Also redpilled
You keep saying 'triggered' and 'flying off the handle' like it proves something? No one is mad. You're free to live the life of an emotionally stunted child for the remainder of your days, but I'm also free to point and laugh at an emotionally stunted child who can't handle grownup things.
pfft
No I'm not.
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I read "How disgusting" as her feeling disgusted with herself for showing compassion to shinji, the man who was choking her to death.
Nearly 25 years later and I still love the discussion this show brings. Kino assessment user.
Your own posts prove something. They prove that you are really upset just because I live my life alone. You are insecure about something.
>You're free to live the life of an emotionally stunted child for the remainder of your days
Prove that I'm an emotionally stunted child. Protip: you cannot.
>I'm also free to point and laugh at an emotionally stunted child who can't handle grownup things.
You aren't laughing. This is damage control 101. You're clearly upset and very bothered by me because it's reminding you of some of your personal issues.
Yeah you are. The entire purpose of this board is social interaction. If you post here, you're seeking a response. If you were truly independent of this board, you wouldn't even be posting.
Adam's LoL worked on her so maybe a second lance
I don't have to be posting here. Yea Forums could go down tomorrow and life would go on for me. You're projecting your own problems onto me.
>They prove that you are really upset just because I live my life alone.
Repeating that over and over and over doesn't make it true, user. No one is mad. I'm sad for you.
>Prove that I'm an emotionally stunted child. Protip: you cannot.
If you reject emotional connections with other beings out of hand, simply because you fear vulnerability, you're stunted. Period.
>You aren't laughing.
But I am. I find your defensiveness very sad and silly. Keep clownin', bro.
>he thinks he can leave Yea Forums
both had their own lances, but lilith's was lost somehow
It is true and you're making it necessary for me to repeat it.
>No one is mad.
You are.
>If you reject emotional connections with other beings out of hand, simply because you fear vulnerability, you're stunted. Period.
You are ascribing motives to me that I never said or implied, which means you're projecting.
>But I am.
But you aren't. This is basic Yea Forums damage control.
>I find your defensiveness very sad and silly.
You are attacking me, so I am defending myself. You are very entitled to think that you have the right to attack others but they may not defend themselves.
Again, it can all of these and nonr of these.
It's one of my favorite lines in fiction because the context of the utterance matters so much and yet the context is literally the fucking point of it all so much so that the context is different for each person. All are valid because all explain what it means to an individual which the whole point of the series is trying to sort yourself out and find out your identity in relation to other people by forcing yourself into uncomfortable situations.
The dynamism of the human condition is everything and nothing. Existence is to want nothingness and yet avoid it at all costs because you will lose you when you are nothing. No pain but no pleasure either. War and peace, hate and love, rejection and forgiveness; all encompass what it means to be human and more importantly (perhaps most importantly, since you will likely only experience this to the fullest extent with someone you mutually love and hate, I.e. a spouse), how two people relate to each other to form a whole is a very old concept taken to a new level with EVA.
People get too caught up in the splendor of the robots and religious symbology or the weakness of the protagonist and miss that it's entirely a meditation on depression and the difficulty in connecting to people, yet the immense reward of happiness and fulfillment is worth it. It's a classic case of missing the forest for the trees. Is it tue greatest thing ever made? No. Is it an honest, passionate therapeutic project for a depressed man coming to terms with his despair through his art, that taps into some of the most important aspects of the human condition? Absolutely.
>It is true and you're making it necessary for me to repeat it.
That's your COPE. Literally no one is angry and I can tell you're getting red in the face with how much you NEED someone to be angry at you. But no one's angry at you. I will repeat it as many times as it's needed: your rejection of emotional intimacy is childlike, stunted and sad.
>You are ascribing motives to me that I never said or implied, which means you're projecting.
You're afraid of being vulnerable with other humans and you're afraid of pain. That is why you insist you'll be able to live life totally alone. That is literally the reason why anyone rejects social relationships: pain and fear of pain.
But learning to deal with pain is a normal part of growing up and maturing. If you can't handle emotional conflict and pain, you're undeveloped. Sorry you have to hear it this way, user, but you're on the level of a shy seventh grader.
>You are attacking me, so I am defending myself.
Now HERE is some projection. I'm stating facts. You are very self-conscious and defensive. Again: sad.
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Kino thread t b h
>That's your COPE.
Nope.
>Literally no one is angry and I can tell you're getting red in the face with how much you NEED someone to be angry at you.
You are angry and I gave you no reason to start this fight.
>your rejection of emotional intimacy is childlike, stunted and sad.
It isn't, and you are just using me as a proxy for your own problems.
>You're afraid of being vulnerable with other humans and you're afraid of pain.
I never said or implied anything like that. You are talking about yourself.
>Now HERE is some projection.
No projection, only facts. You are attacking me, I am defending myself. That is factually what is occuring.
>You are very self-conscious and defensive.
I am "defensive" because you are "offensive." You are attacking me, thus I am defending myself. If you don't like it, just stop posting.
so as someone who's never watched anime except for castlevania (which I really fucking liked) would I like this?
it's regarded as some holy fucking grail of animu or something. I remember back in high school nerds were really into this shit.
It's a holy grail for some but not for others. There's no "best" anime and there's no guarantee you'll like it. Also, Castlevania isn't an anime.
even if you dont love anime you should at least watch all the classics like nge, cowboy bebop etc
>It's a classic case of missing the forest for the trees. Is it tue greatest thing ever made? No. Is it an honest, passionate therapeutic project for a depressed man coming to terms with his despair through his art, that taps into some of the most important aspects of the human condition? Absolutely.
based and redpilled
the entire series is one profoundly lonely soul flirting with its constitutive void
gendo is pretty much an externalization of shinji's death drive, unable to live but unable to let go either
SEELE wanted to abolish all energy differentials and "ascend"/revert into tadpoles swimming the ocean of primordial inertia
anno is saying the modern "otaku" is basically an aborted male soul, unable to be born from the womb of its dreams
>Nope.
Yep. Cope harder, user.
>You are angry and I gave you no reason to start this fight.
Stop projecting. There is no fight. I'm simply stating facts and you're losing your shit because you're stunted and defensive. Human beings require emotional connections. This isn't an attack on you, and your taking it as an attack reveals a lot about the emotional poverty you live in.
>It isn't, and you are just using me as a proxy for your own problems.
I can tell you wish this were true, but I'm a grownup and I've formed satisfying, fulfilling relationships with other adult human beings. Try again.
>I never said or implied anything like that. You are talking about yourself.
If you're not the user who believes being alone is fine forever, stop replying.
>You are attacking me,
Human beings, ALL human beings, require emotional connections with other beings. If you take this statement of fact as an attack, you truly are a child.
thanks bros. I'll queue it up.
Eva threads have the ability to be the best threads on Yea Forums or Yea Forums if they don't get entirely derailed by autists, brainlets, and contrarians.
>Yep. Cope harder, user.
There is no cope.
>Stop projecting. There is no fight.
You really have no idea what projection means, do you? Stating factually a thing that is presently occuring has nothing to do with projection.
>I'm simply stating facts and you're losing your shit because you're stunted and defensive.
I am the one stating facts. You are the one losing your shit. You started this fight for no reason. And you keep being offended because I have the audacity to defend myself, and you still try to present yourself as someone who gets to lecture to people about mental problems.
>Human beings require emotional connections. This isn't an attack on you, and your taking it as an attack reveals a lot about the emotional poverty you live in.
You are blatantly attacking me.
>I can tell you wish this were true, but I'm a grownup and I've formed satisfying, fulfilling relationships with other adult human beings. Try again.
This is not true. Something about my original statement set you off.
>If you're not the user who believes being alone is fine forever, stop replying.
I am that user. What about it?
>Human beings, ALL human beings, require emotional connections with other beings. If you take this statement of fact as an attack, you truly are a child.
You are misrepresenting what has happened in the thread. Maybe it's because you are a child.
Didn't Anno apologize to all of the people working on NGE after he saw episodes 25 and 26 for the first time or something?
except for the two retards
Anyone else find eva incredibly touching?
I've seen it twice but it gets very difficult to watch towards the end.
the FAR are the hypothetical union of the lunar (lilim) and solar (angels) principles
the Third Impact is an alchemical procedure
rei has the body of yui but the soul of lilith because it was intended that shinji basically have a dialogue with the mother of all human souls
rei is a void and the lilim are differentiations of that void, they are zero multiplied again and again and again
the AT field isn't so much a force field as it is an ontological barrier, the angel is sequestered in its own private, absolute reality, and that is why nothing can harm it
the human dilemma is precisely the hedgehog's dilemma, then: humanity must learn to share and navigate a consensus reality, hence their AT fields are weaker
an angel could never rape another angel, violation and intimacy are possible only for the children of Lilith
Not they user, but why are you sad for this guy? He obviously wants to live alone, let him have his own life. I also wonder why you are trying to protect what you believe to be “meaning” onto this guy, just live your own life and stop giving a fuck about how others live, you aren’t a divine being here to save people, grow up man.
And yet this thread will eventually 404. Like all things user, it will end and be reborn in another thread. Just part of the cycle of life and death that existence itself is not exempt from.
And yet, the chance that I get to discuss it with other people makes the fleeting chance of actual discussion that arises out of the memes, waifu wars, shitposting and contrarianism makes the act of trying worth it.
This thread may all return to nothing and come tumbling down, but as long as there are people on here who want to discuss it, or shitpost it, we can always rebuild it. We're all gonna make it, user.
That's exactly why it's kino
>that
>project
Rekt
> Stating factually a thing that is presently occuring has nothing to do with projection.
But we're not fighting. I mean, I can tell YOU'RE getting pretty heated, but I'm just stating facts. You're the one losing your cool and angry typing.
>You are blatantly attacking me.
Yeahhhh, you're an infant. Stating the fact that all humans need emotional connections is not an attack on you. It's reality.
>You started this fight for no reason.
This isn't a fight, user, how many times do I have to say that? Someone stating a fact that hurts your feelings isn't a fight. It's you getting your feelings hurt by reality.
Besides, you're the one who posted his opinion on social media. If you don't want an adult to correct your infantile ways, don't post.
I like you existential FARley poster. You're alright.
Rei truly is the best.
I'm sad for anyone who can't form meaningful relationships. It's a miserable existence. But you're right, I won't save him. This is something he needs to work out for himself.
This really does deserve another (You).
Excellent analysis.
>But we're not fighting. I mean, I can tell YOU'RE getting pretty heated, but I'm just stating facts. You're the one losing your cool and angry typing.
You are trying to reverse this. The fact is that we are fighting, you are mad, and I am stating facts. You are just blatantly taking what is actually happening and turning it around. There is something seriously wrong with you.
>Yeahhhh, you're an infant. Stating the fact that all humans need emotional connections is not an attack on you. It's reality.
You are attacking me. This fact will not change no matter how desperately you attempt to deny it.
>This isn't a fight, user, how many times do I have to say that?
It is a fight and you started it.
>Someone stating a fact that hurts your feelings isn't a fight.
I'm the one stating facts here, not you.
>It's you getting your feelings hurt by reality.
You got your feelings hurt by my original post.
>Besides, you're the one who posted his opinion on social media. If you don't want an adult to correct your infantile ways, don't post.
I don't have any "infantile ways," and I am far older than you. And you're the one who has kept crying that I'm being "defensive," so if you don't like that you can just stop posting.
You are the one who needs to work this out. You are blatantly using me as your emotional punching bag because you have some unresolved issues.
No healthy individual would be posting on Yea Forums so drop the act you nerds
Again, not that guy but stop projecting my dude, he might have found meaning, and he maybe able to form meaningful relationships and decides not to. Stop evaluating others lives on your own expectations of what gives meaning. It’s a dangerous way to analyze reality.
it's the same ending retard, the series ending only shows the instrumentality and Shinji choice and EOE ending shows what happened before the instrumentality and consequence of his choice
Based philosophical user
They both had "Lances", but hers was lost on atmospheric entry.
Splendid and based fucking post
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
>You are attacking me. This fact will not change no matter how desperately you attempt to deny it.
Two and two is four. Is that an attack on you? No. ALL human beings require emotional connections with other human beings to be happy and fulfilled. Is that an attack on you? No. That's just reality. If you're hurt by reality, that's on you.
>You got your feelings hurt by my original post.
Well, it's true that I read your post and felt sadness and pity for you, but I wouldn't describe my feelings as 'hurt'. Like if I see a wounded animal, I'm not 'hurt' by the sight of it.
>I don't have any "infantile ways," and I am far older than you.
Thinking you're unique among all human beings who have ever lived and will be happy entirely alone is the height of immaturity and childishness. Physical age has nothing to do with your stunted psyche.
What’s otaku
ALL human beings require emotional connections in order to be fulfilled and happy. This isn't my opinion, it's objective fact.
not everyone wants to be happy. not everyone is happy being happy
It's one of my personal favorites, even if you watch it and don't like it, it's so influential a quarter century later that it's worth checking out at least once.
Bebop is also kino, but in different ways than EVA.
Any order I should watch these in? There’s three entries on Netflix.
>Two and two is four. Is that an attack on you? No.
This for example is a blatant attack:
>You're free to live the life of an emotionally stunted child for the remainder of your days, but I'm also free to point and laugh at an emotionally stunted child who can't handle grownup things.
>Well, it's true that I read your post and felt sadness and pity for you
No you didn't. You flipped the fuck out because my post triggered some psychological problem of yours.
>Thinking you're unique among all human beings who have ever lived and will be happy entirely alone is the height of immaturity and childishness.
I never said anything about being unique among all human beings. Why are you lying?
>Physical age has nothing to do with your stunted psyche.
You're the one with the mental problems here.
Japanese variant of geek/nerd.
Rec me some good Eva doujins
There is no way of knowing that objectively friend, because you are biased and basing these assumptions on your own experiences.
>far.gif
>far
>FAR
Heh, I just got it user. Kino analysis yourself.
dont watch it on Netflix, its the inferior experience. torrent bluray rips and end of evangelion movie. watch the directors cut episodes for extra context
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>the modern "otaku" is basically an aborted male soul, unable to be born from the womb of its dreams
damn user, that hit me hard. are you coming up with these gems or are you getting them from somewhere?
No, it's an objective fact. All human beings require emotional connections in order to be happy and fulfilled. Every single one. It's part of being human.
If a person cannot accept their intrinsic need for other people, they are either stunted or immature.
That one user went absolutely apeshit when I pointed it out.
>anno is saying the modern "otaku" is basically an aborted male soul, unable to be born from the womb of its dreams
There isn't even any basis for this. Otaku are some of the most creative people out there.
It's sad but it's also one of the most hopeful things I've ever seen at the same time. It's a contradiction, a duality of sorts that mirrors the very human condition it so honestly portrays.
No, you went apeshit. You keep doing this thing where you reverse everything that's happening. There is something very, very wrong with you.
JSYK, user is right. If you can't make nice with other human beings there is something seriously wrong with you.
I disagree. Do yourself a favor and stop arguing with that other user.
How is he making nice with anyone? Explain.
i think his point is that they can't reach self actualization, or the motivation to realize one's full potential. it's a stunted person who holds themselves back from fully experiencing life
you're obsession with "being an adult" and opposing anything that you deem as "childish" says a lot about you. also you type like an pseudo-intellectual redditor
Are they not reaching their full potential just because they aren't living life the Anno way (whatever that is)?
*your
>Otaku are some of the most creative people out there.
sure but there's also neets and hikikomori
NEETs and hikikomori don't have to be otaku.
The thing about interpreting Eva is that you can literally argue whatever fucking point you want and some absolute ham will agree with you. Especially on this board.
but there is overlap
That kind of overlap also exists in America but that's somehow totally cool for reasons nobody has ever articulated.
ok yeah that makes sense buuuuuuuuuuuuuut why she says she is disgusted?
no shit, no one is saying this is solely a japanese problem
Geeks in America are never associated with NEETs or hikkis, yet otaku are constantly painted as being nothing but NEETs and hikkis.
well said
i think he is just describing that state of being, and possibly helping others to recognize it in themselves, i dont think he is prescribing a specific way of life.
>Geeks in America are never associated with NEETs or hikkis
yes they are
Reading this thread has reminded me that anime autists will find the face of god in the skin of a fucking potato as long as there are three waifus next to it.
Eva is about a loser teenager being a fucking a faggot, presented in 26 episodes filled with monologues and diatribes about how hard socializing is because muh existentialism, written and directed by a loser projecting himself onto the protagonist. The show is literally a depressed guy's therapy journal. Because he has the mentality of an angsty teen, he threw in some LOL NEAT religious iconography for good measure, and because most people watched Eva when they were 14 and virgins, they associated strongly with it. Now, years later they're writing about the kabbalah and instrumentality.
sounds like you have thought about it way more than i have, i just watched the show over the past few days for the first time. you should make a video about it or something because your analysis is really exceptional
AS EXPECTED FROM MASTER ANNO
So pretty deep then
have you heard the term basement dweller? come on user, don't make shit up just to defend your point
The series and then End of Evangelion
The third entry is a recap. Don't bother.
There are other films that make me cry, but Evangelion is the only one to truely make me sob.
>Goodbye, Mother.
baseeeeed
Technically, maybe. Someone somewhere has at some point said that. But it's nowhere near a commonly held view. Otaku are almost universally seen as interchangeable with NEETs/hikki.
Basement dweller doesn't necessarily mean someone is a geek.
is the rebuild thing worth watching?
It's very slow, thought out, and methodical. It hinges just as much on slow conversations to carry the plot as it does big action scenes. Even the most convoluted technobabble ends up being important to the plot.
If that sounds like something you would enjoy I say give it a go. It's the best character study of all time.
It's a "reboot" that takes the series in a different direction.
It's alright if you desprately crave more, but the saga really stops at End of Evangelion. Even if you chose to watch it I recommend waiting a few months after EoE to process what you have seen, because Rebuilds kinda leave a different taste in your mouth. One that personally I don't like, but you might. Regardless it's very different in tone and structure.
I know, i know i've let you down,
i've been a fool to myself.
i thought that i could live for no one else,
but now, through all the hurt and pain,
it's time for me to respect.
the ones you love mean more than anything.
So with sadness in my heart,
i feel the best thing i could do,
is end it all, and leave forever.
what's done is done, it feels so bad,
what once was happy now is sad.
i'll never love again.
my world is ending.
>Basement dweller doesn't necessarily mean someone is a geek
dude...come on, stop splitting hairs
>fat incel man babies in their moms basement are mad about star wars again!
you cannot deny that that is a thing in America, you just can't.
>look mom, i'm being a troll
I am not splitting hairs and the fact remains that while otaku are almost always accused of being NEETs and hikkis the same rarely applies to American geeks. Being a geek is considered mainstream now. Star Wars is normalfag as fuck.
regardless of country they're all synonymous with loser, the actual behavior of the individual is irrelevant
okay thanks, it's probably not for me then
Being a geek is considered normal in America and only ignorant or malicious people think otaku is synonymous with loser.
*blocks your path*
>Being a geek is considered normal in America
lol no. some geek media has been made mainstream but not being a geek/nerd. i.e everyone watches MCU and GoT but only losers still read comics or fantasy books
>only ignorant or malicious people think otaku is synonymous with loser.
go ask some japanses girls/women what they think of otakus
mental health mouth breather
Friendly reminder that, with exceptions, if you want good anime recs you should never ask an anime fan. Ask an arthouse film fan and you'll get recs like NGE, Angel's Egg, Lain, Tatami Galaxy, Perfect Blue, LotGH and other anime that are actually worth watching. EoE is #30 on RYM and top 100 on Letterboxd, Angel's Egg isn't far off top 500 on RYM, Perfect Blue isn't far off top 200 on RYM, Lain is really high on Letterboxd and it's not even a film lol. Now let's see how that compares to MAL, which let me remind you is exclusively anime.
>EoE barely top 100
>NGE not in top 200
>Perfect Blue barely top 200
>Lain not top 500
>Angel's Egg not top 1000
>Code Geass above all of them
The only exceptions in my list are LotGH in the top 10 and Tatami Galaxy in the top 100, but LotGH is so long that your rating doesn't even count until you've seen 22 episodes and has significantly fewer ratings than anything else that high that isn't a sequel (e.g. all the fucking Gintama seasons).
I am not talking about some deeper meaning of geek, I mean declaring yourself a geek and associating yourself with things that are considered geek is completely normal and sanitary.
>go ask some japanses girls/women what they think of otakus
They're either ignorant or malicious. What's your point?
These "arthouse film fans" don't like anime and don't know much about anime, they just like some things that happen to be anime, despite them being anime. Shirobako for example is a great anime but "arthouse film fans" wouldn't know what it is, and even if they did they'd never recommend it.
im not a mouth breather
>Aoi Miyamori and her four best friends, Ema Yasuhara, Shizuka Sakaki, Misa Tōdō, and Midori Imai, were all part of their school's animation club, promising to make an anime together.
oh wow sounds so great, it's like i really have friends now! i cant wait to watch these new adventures with my new friends!
>this is your brain on anime
ITT autism.
i asked one and he told me i am a child for liking cartoon
>is completely normal and sanitary.
you're not going to be ran out of town but people are going to look down at you
>deeper meaning of geek
reading books and comics, you just proved my point
>They're either ignorant or malicious.
no kid
This is what I mean. You people don't know shit. Shirobako takes place in the anime industry. The characters are all working adults. There are many male characters, not just female ones. The high school portion of the narrative take up all of four minutes.
>you're not going to be ran out of town but people are going to look down at you
No. Being a "geek" is cool now.
>no kid
Yes, and I am older than you. You have just lost the argument.
pretty much this. i'm not an arthouse dude, but the only reason i'll watch an anime is if it seems interesting on it's own, i do not seek out anime, i am not an anime fan, but there is some great stuff out there that just happens to be anime
nobody cares about your weeb escapism shit
based hermeticist
Japanese things can't be wannabe Japanese. Shirobako is "not escapist," it's about working adults in the anime industry dealing with shit like deadlines. You arthouse fags are retarded.
nobody gives a shit
i really hope you are just trolling user, because the fact that you are defending whatever it is that you are defending is really pathetic. who exactly are you trying to justify your lifestyle to, them or you? you are bordering on the "oppressed gamers" meme
Shirobako sold very well, is getting a movie sequel soon, and:
>Shirobako won the Animation Kobe Television Award in 2015. It also won Animation of the Year at the 2016 Tokyo Anime Awards and Animation Department Committee Recommended Works Award at the 19th Japan Media Arts Festival.
But of course you knew none of this, because you arthouse fags just want to say you watched something "deep" and "artistic" so other arthouse fags will pat you on the back for your great "taste." You are empty shells.
Where did I say anything about my lifestyle? You're just trying to abruptly change the topic to be about me instead because you lost the argument.
btw guys if you love NGE
play SubaHibi
NGE is my favorite movie and I still love SubaHibi more
its the greatest piece of fiction ever written and its clearly influenced by EoE
what you're calling 'being a geek' is essentially no different than being a gamergirl. its the 'lol im so nerdy' but scratch the surface and anything actually geek culture that hasn't been shat out by the mainstream for normies makes you a loser, loser
>Yes, and I am older than you. You have just lost the argument.
"anyone who doesn't get my niche hobby is ignorant & malicious" $5 says you were teen werewolf
Shirobako is weeb trash, making about making anime doesn't make it meta or deep its till escapism
remember LOVING EoE back then, but i was such a cringey teen
is it actually any good?
>"anyone who doesn't get my niche hobby is ignorant & malicious" $5 says you were teen werewolf
The "stereotypes" about otaku are false. People repeat them either out of ignorance or out of malice. I never said or implied anything about any teen werewolves and this has nothing to do with me. You are trying to make this about me because you have no arguments. Everyone always loses arguments against me, and sooner or later they'll try to make the thread about me. It always happens.
>Shirobako is weeb trash, making about making anime doesn't make it meta or deep its till escapism
Japanese things CANNOT be wannabe Japanese, by definition, and Shirobako is meta as fuck. It's an anime about making anime and is full of references to other anime and includes many thinly veiled version of real people. Like an artist who represents a real person and paints something for use in the anime, and the painting seen in the anime was actually painted by the real person the character represents. Yes, that is meta.
Escapism is a retarded meme.
maybe i'm replying to the wrong user, are you the one that lives alone and keeps spouting about muh oppressed otaku?
yes.
What are you talking about?
>>Shirobako won the Animation Kobe Television Award in 2015.
and attack on titan won 2 years before that, as did this
>ugh, you npcs couldn't possibly understand my favourite escapist anime
you have no idea how silly you sound do you
oh nothing, carry on
So?
Escapism is a retarded meme. It's just an accusation people randomly hurl at things they don't like but have no real reasons for disliking, and then they never explain what qualifies as escapism and why escapism is so terrible. You keep blindly attacking Shirobako without even knowing anything about it.
And I have not tried to claim that Shirobako is some deep story that you couldn't possibly comprehend, I am saying you don't comprehend it even at the most basic, obvious, objective level. You don't even know what it is.
>Everyone always loses arguments against me, and sooner or later they'll try to make the thread about me. It always happens.
ok kid
>Japanese things CANNOT be wannabe Japanese, by definition
so its authentic weeb trash instead of wannabe weeb trash
>Shirobako is meta as fuck
>is full of references to other anime
>many thinly veiled version of real people
>Yes, that is meta.
>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to....
so you can't use it as proof that Shirobako isn't anything more than your standard weeb trash
i dont care what it is
nobody does
you just wanted an excuse to namedrop some weeb shit
>ok kid
I am far older than you and this is what I mean. It's always about me, sooner or later. Me me me me me me me. That's all you want to talk about. Not the topic.
>so its authentic weeb trash instead of wannabe weeb trash
It is by definition impossible for Shirobako to be weeb and you cannot say a single thing to prove otherwise.
>Yes, that is meta.
Yes, it is. Do you even know what meta means?
>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to....
No. No you don't. This is very simple. You're just stupid.
Japanese things cannot be wannabe Japanese. How are you not able to understand this simple concept? And what do those awards have to do with whether or not it's weeb?
See >you just wanted an excuse to namedrop some weeb shit
Japanese things cannot be wannabe Japanese. Japanese things cannot be wannabe Japanese. Japanese things cannot be wannabe Japanese. Japanese things cannot be wannabe Japanese. Japanese things cannot be wannabe Japanese. Japanese things cannot be wannabe Japanese. How are you not getting this?
And what excuse? I had a very clear reason for mentioning it:
>you just wanted an excuse to namedrop some weeb shit
why do they do this, do they really think that people care?
It's kino based on visuals alone.
When you watch it immediately after NGE, it's transcendent.
You are samefagging.
no you just wanted to namedrop something to show how le superior and cultured you are when nobody cared and it wasnt relevant
Eva threads always lure disgusting weebs. Eva is on Netflix now. Normalfag as fuck. Just let people enjoy the Eva thread without sperging over anime. Fuck off to Yea Forums.
The last time we saw Asuka she had her arm out in the same way, "I'll kill you". She strokes his face though.
"How disgusting" is I over-read I think, its just what she'd say because he's blubbing. What I took away from it is that it is Asuka, not some weird stand-in, angel or doll or whatever.
Eva transcends anime and otaku fagdom but every single Eva thread has to have "that guy" who tries to like convert people into being as pathetic as he is.
See There was no excuse. There was a clear, unambiguous reason why I mentioned it. You cannot randomly claim that "nobody cares" when it's obvious that people do care.
nope
see
Writing style and timing gives it away. Don't even try to deny it.
Is that anime any good?
Jesus bros I really wanna _hug Asuka and then tell her everything will be alright.
thats not me dude
i can easily screencap to prove it but then you'll just claim i doctored it or some retarded shit
>I am far older than you
ok kid
>It's always about me, sooner or later. Me me me me me me me. That's all you want to talk about. Not the topic.
are you sure this isn't you a weeb show about making weeb shows is the height of weeb
>>To be fair, you have to be very weeb to appreciate a weeb show like Shirobako
See what? I already responded to that and you have no counter-arguments to it. You cannot back up your position at all.
so you're crying about the fact that non anime fans wont watch a show about people who make anime? do you realize how insane and pointless that is?
cgi so i dropped it 5 mins in, looks like wank-bait
Same writing style. Same opinion. Timing doesn't rule out samefaggotry. You samefagged, you got caught.
>ok kid
Prove that I'm not older than you.
>are you sure this isn't you
Yes. What does that post have to do with me? It clearly doesn't even use the same writing style.
>a weeb show about making weeb shows is the height of weeb
Japanese things cannot be wannabe Japanese you dumbfuck.
I said:
>These "arthouse film fans" don't like anime and don't know much about anime, they just like some things that happen to be anime, despite them being anime. Shirobako for example is a great anime but "arthouse film fans" wouldn't know what it is, and even if they did they'd never recommend it.
And Shirobako was just one possible example I happened to come up with. And you want to fucking war over it. You sperged out hard.
seems like you're just crying about the fact you don't understand arthouse and wanted to namedrop some dumb weeb shit to feel better about it
shirobako is shit and praised in garbage places like MAL
these two are mine, the others arent, don't be paranoid no one is "samefagging"
We already went over this you dumbfuck. Japanese things can't be wannabe Japanese. I had a clear reason for mentioning Shirobako. You have no arguments.
You've never seen it. You don't even know what it is. You had never heard of it until this thread.
no you didn't have a clear reason for mentioning it at all and you're right we have been over this but keeping sperging out about it anyway
you're the reason people hate weebs
You were samefagging. You got caught. You cannot deny it. You expect someone to believe that there just happen to be two people with the exact same distinctive writing style and opinions posting at the same time?
I had a fucking clear reason and you cannot argue anything to the contrary.
>you're the reason people hate weebs
I'm not a weeb and you cannot say anything to prove I am. And even if we suppose that I am a weeb, what is the reason for hating me? There is none. You're the one being a retarded asshole here.
lmao you really are embarrassing dude
that's not me but again keep sperging out about it anyway
>don't pretend you get it
The show is literally about rejection and depression, and how that fucks up your self image.
It's not that hard, user.
You were samefagging. You were absolutely samefagging. And you're the one sperging out here. You're having a fucking meltdown just because I mentioned an anime that you've never even heard of.
the reason for hating you is because your a weeb cunt who just namedropped some shit nobody cared about and wasn't relevant for no reason other than to be smug with himself
i have just been chiming in and slinging shit, i am not one of the people arguing with you. oh same writing style, maybe we went to the same school kek
You cannot do a fucking thing to prove that I'm a weeb and as I already fucking told you I had a clear reason for mentioning it and you can't argue anything to the contrary. I also already disproved your claims about nobody caring about Shirobako.
You were samefagging.
reply to the ones you think are samefags and i'll show you it's not
you're a weeb because you namedropped irrelevant weebshit and complained about people who aren't weebs
thats what weebs do
>Prove that I'm not older than you.
this is proof that you're a kid, kid
Shirobako is pure weeb, its literally made only for weebs because only weebs care about weeb toons
>And you want to fucking war over it. You sperged out hard.
im not the sperg kid & "arthouse film fans" dont watch weeb cartoons
>You've never seen it
The only good moment in that sad show is Aoi crying when Zuka finally got the VA role in episode 20 and something or some shit. She visiting Anno was also nice but that's it, not even remotely good at all and definitely not worth 2 cours of basic shit for you maltards to praise it so much. There was so many blogtexting in the threads they were awful the only good thing about it was the Zuka nightmares memes you fucking nitwit
>I'm not a weeb and you cannot say anything to prove I am.
you spaz out every post about being a weeb and you watch the weebist weeb toon ever made
It's trivially easy to doctor screenshots or just use multiple IP addresses at once using a mobile connection. It's so fucking obvious that you samefagged and it's pathetic that you still keep trying to deny it.
JAPANESE THINGS CANNOT BE WANNABE JAPANESE AND YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY ARGUMENTATION TO SHOW OTHERWISE. I had a clear reason for mentioning the show and you have not provided any argumentation to show otherwise. You have no evidence that I'm a weeb. You have jack shit.
No it isn't. Prove that I'm not older than you.
>Shirobako is pure weeb, its literally made only for weebs because only weebs care about weeb toons
Shirobako is a Japanese series made by Japanese people for Japanese people and thus BY FUCKING DEFINITION cannot be weeb, you dumbshit.
>im not the sperg kid & "arthouse film fans" dont watch weeb cartoons
JAPANESE THINGS CANNOT BE WANNABE JAPANESE AND ANIME AND CARTOONS ARE NOT THE SAME THING.
Why are you pretending to be someone else when you clearly have a completely different writing style, you fucking idiot?
If you accuse me of something I will defend myself, that does fucking nothing to prove the accusation is correct.
>you watch the weebist weeb toon ever made
JAPANESE THINGS CANNOT BE WANNABE JAPANESE
>JAPANESE THINGS CANNOT BE WANNABE JAPANESE AND YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY ARGUMENTATION TO SHOW OTHERWISE.
only weebs sperg out this hard over this distinction
weeb nowadays is interchangable with otaku/general anime loving fag but you're obviously too dense to get this
You have no evidence that I'm a weeb and it's not some trivial fucking distinction. You are claiming that a Japanese thing made by Japanese people is WANNABE JAPANESE, as in NOT ACTUALLY JAPANESE. That is fucking retarded.
>weeb nowadays is interchangable with otaku/general anime loving fag but you're obviously too dense to get this
Weeb and otaku are two completely different things and just liking anime doesn't make anyone a weeb.
Woah, get a deserted beach with gently lapped by violent LCL, lovebirds.
sperging out this hard about the definition of weeb is something only a weeb would do
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE DEFINITION OF THE WORD.
about to watch this for the first time tonight, netflix version
you're a weeb because you posted about irrelevant weeb shit that only a weeb would care about
how many times are you going to make me say this
i agree with this user, he is smart and cool and he is totally BTFOing this weeb loser
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS. YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD OVER, OVER, OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT JAPANESE THINGS CANNOT BE WANNABE JAPANESE AND YOU CANNOT PRODUCE ANY COUNTER-ARGUMENTS AGAINST THAT.
>No it isn't. Prove that I'm not older than you.
kid if i was 6 how would that be less embarrassing for you
only weebs watch weeb toons, a weeb toon made for weebs is peak weeb
>that does fucking nothing to prove the accusation is correct.
the only way you could weeb out any harder is if you webcamed yourself in full jap toga waving your hello kitty katana over your head screaming impossibu nippon undefeatabu Shirobako banzai desu
Shut up weeb
total weeb
More fucking obvious samefagging. And you expect people to believe that it's different users. You are retarded.
You cannot prove that I'm not older than you, which I am.
>only weebs watch weeb toons, a weeb toon made for weebs is peak weeb
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS. YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD OVER, OVER, OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT JAPANESE THINGS CANNOT BE WANNABE JAPANESE AND YOU CANNOT PRODUCE ANY COUNTER-ARGUMENTS AGAINST THAT.
>the only way you could weeb out any harder is if you webcamed yourself in full jap toga waving your hello kitty katana over your head screaming impossibu nippon undefeatabu Shirobako banzai desu
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS.
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS.
holy shit dude
we're just going in circles here
you're a weeb fag and nobody gives a shit about your weeb shit anime
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB. YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORD MEANS.
We're going in fucking circles because of YOU.
>you're a weeb fag and nobody gives a shit about your weeb shit anime
THESE CLAIMS HAVE BEEN PROVEN 100% FALSE AND YOU CANNOT PRODUCE ANY COUNTER-ARGUMENTS.
How the FUCK can someone sperg out this fucking hard just because I mentioned one fucking anime that he hasn't even fucking heard of before? How? How the fuck does this happen? How can someone be so fucked out of his mind that this is what sets him off?
i agree 100% with this
the funniest part about this whole thing is that i'm not even samefagging
these guys just obviously see how buttblasted you are and want to troll you and you just look like a schizophrenic weeb retard
>You cannot prove that I'm not older than you, which I am.
you're right, you're getting btfo by me a 6 y/o.
dumb fuck weeb
Exhibit D? G?
More fucking samefagging that you are too retarded to realize is entirely obvious.
it's 3 against 1 dude, you lost get over it weeb
>How the FUCK can someone sperg out this fucking hard just because I mentioned one fucking anime that he hasn't even fucking heard of before? How? How the fuck does this happen? How can someone be so fucked out of his mind that this is what sets him off?
my god the weeb has become self aware
i think theres 3 of us + the weeb
You are fucking samefagging. You keep using the same fucking writing style and same opinions.
>these guys just obviously see how buttblasted you are and want to troll you and you just look like a schizophrenic weeb retard
Damage control 101. You are not trolling, you are entirely seriously committed to this.
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
No, it's just you. Fucking samefag.
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
You fucking retard can't prove any of your stupid fucking claims, all you can do is fucking keep repeating them ad infinitum.
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
>i think theres 3 of us + the weeb
Samefag. Fucking retard.
prove that im samefagging
>same writing style
dude anybody can fucking copy that
>same opinions
holy shit lol
it's already been made evident that you're a weeb faggot
okay i admit it, this whole thread was designed by me just to fuck with you. i am all the fags in here. how does that make you feel weeb?
>You are not trolling, you are entirely seriously committed to this.
100% weeb tonight one of us will bleed desu
I already did, shit-for-brains.
>it's already been made evident that you're a weeb faggot
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
you didn't prove shit you just keep throwing a tantum and spamming the exact same sentence
literally watching a weeb have a meltdown right now and its glorious
and all i had to do was call him a weeb
we've figured out the secret to stopping the weeb menace, bros
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
You cannot fucking produce any arguments. You are far too fucking stupid for that. All you do is fucking repeat the same fucking accusations like a broken record. And all this for no reason other than me mentioning one anime that you have never heard of before.
why doesn't society have secular places for people to be social?
You are the one throwing tantrum and spamming shit you fucking liar.
>literally watching a weeb have a meltdown right now and its glorious
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
>and all i had to do was call him a weeb
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
>we've figured out the secret to stopping the weeb menace, bros
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
based
Enjoy and don't forget to listen to dialog.
Also don't forget it doesn't actually get REALLY good until episode 16 or so
what the fuck is happening? Can you retards take it to discord or something
>And all this for no reason other than me mentioning one anime that you have never heard of before.
because im not a weeb, i dont watch weeb shows, unlike you, weeb
look at what you just posted
read it right now
and im the one having the tantrum
you're a weeb everybody in this thread already knows it and nobody cares what anime you want to namedrop to feel good about yourself
even your fellow weebs shit on the anime you posted
i bet that really set you off
you're not being creative enough user, they exist
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD. SHIROBAKO IS BY DEFINITION NOT WEEB AND YOU CANNOT ARGUE OTHERWISE. YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNOT PRODUCE A SINGLE ARGUMENT TO SHOW THAT IT COULD BE WEEB.
Yes, you are the one having a fucking tantrum. You totally flipped your fucking shit when I mentioned Shirobako, an anime you had never previously heard of.
>you're a weeb
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
>nobody cares what anime you want to namedrop to feel good about yourself
even your fellow weebs shit on the anime you posted
I CLEARLY REFUTED THIS SHIT ALREADY AND YOU CANNOT PRODUCE ANY COUNTER-ARGUMENTS.
>even your fellow weebs shit on the anime you posted
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
yeah keep spamming in caps lock that really makes you look sensible and level headed, lmao
are all weebs this mentally unstable? all i did was call you a weeb and this is enough to completely set you off?
BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE INFINITE FUCKING PATIENCE WITH RETARDS WHO KEEP REPEATING THE SAME SHIT, OVER, OVER, OVER, OVER AND OVER AGAIN REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY TIMES IT IS THOROUGHLY REFUTED.
>are all weebs this mentally unstable?
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
>all i did was call you a weeb and this is enough to completely set you off?
All I fucking did was mention Shirobako, an anime you've never heard of, and that's what set YOU off. YOU started this, you are the one freaking the fuck out.
hey i just came from a different thread, someone said there was a massive wee...oh it's you
even for a weeb show its average at best. no wonder this weeb loves it. average is high praise for weeb shit
Fucking retard samefag motherfucker. You actually think I can't fucking tell? Fucking moron.
kek
>BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE INFINITE FUCKING PATIENCE WITH RETARDS WHO KEEP REPEATING THE SAME SHIT, OVER, OVER, OVER, OVER AND OVER AGAIN REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY TIMES IT IS THOROUGHLY REFUTED.
oh the irony
i'm not freaking out, i just saw you being a self indulgent weeb fag and i called you out on it
and you went into complete meltdown status as a result
JAPANESE THINGS CANNOT BE WANNABE JAPANESE AND YOU HAD NOT EVEN FUCKING HEARD OF IT UNTIL I MENTIONED IT.
>no wonder this weeb loves it.
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
Yes you are fucking freaking out. You are completely shitting yourself because I mentioned Shirobako, an anime you had never heard of before. You started a HUGE fucking argument just because of that.
>i just saw you being a self indulgent weeb fag
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
>and you went into complete meltdown status as a result
No, YOU fucking did. Fucking liar.
>NO YOU
lmao
so we're at this point now are we?
keep up this meltdown weeb
If you only watch subs you are a weeb. Simple as that
>>and you went into complete meltdown status as a result
>No, YOU fucking did. Fucking liar.
lol weeb
That wasn't a "no u" response you fucking moron, that was me factually telling you what the fuck is actually happening here.
>keep up this meltdown weeb
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
Total fucking retard bullshit from someone who has no idea what the fuck the word means.
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
i agree with this guy 100%
It means someone who is obsessed with Japanese and Japanese culture. ie someone who only watches subs
You, weeb. Keep coping
Fucking samefag once again.
this is the most perfect meltdown i have ever seen
you're in a loop like a malfuctioning robot in a movie
agreed
>tfw Shinji is having a mental breakdown itt
That's not what it fucking means you utter fucking retard.
>You, weeb. Keep coping
YOU HAVE NO EVIDENCE THAT I'M A WEEB AND DON'T EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD.
Not a single one of you fucking motherfuckers can prove your fucking accusations.
Not even actually.
I just got here
YOU are in a fucking loop. YOU are keeping this going. YOU keep making the same fucking accusations over, over, over, over, over, over and over again without ever backing them up in any fucking way or saying anything of any kind of substance.
Samefag.
You are obviously not the same user I just responded to. Fuck off.
My evidence is that you prefer subs
Nani the fuck did omae just fucking iimasu about watashi, you chiisai bitch desuka? Watashi’ll have anata know that watashi graduated top of watashino class in Nihongo 3, and watashi’ve been involved in iroirona Nihongo tutoring sessions, and watashi have over sanbyaku perfect test scores. Watashi am trained in kanji, and watashi is the ichiban letter writer in all of southern California. Anata are nanimonai to watashi but just another weeaboo. Watashi will korosu anata the fuck out with vocabulary the likes of which has itsumonai been mimasu’d before on kono continent, mark watashino fucking kotobas. Anata thinks anata can get away with hanashimasing that kuso to watashi over the intaaneto? Omou again, fucker. As bokutachi hanashimasu, watashi am contacting watashino secret netto of otakus across the USA, and anatano IP is being traced right now so anata better junbishimasu for the ame, ujimushi. The ame that korosu’s the pathetic chiisai thing anata calls anatano jinsei. You’re fucking shinimashita’d, akachan.
You don't even fucking know what a weeb is. You have no fucking clue. You keep waving around this fucking word and have no fucking idea what it even means. You are a fucking idiot.
>NO YOU
lmao again with this shit
and still with the spergouts about "samefags" lmao holy shit you have no idea how paranoid you look
but please, please, please continue with this meltdown
oh and i almost forgot
WEEB