Why are modern Chinese movies so bad?

Did you just make up those names or are we supposed who the fuck those people are?

I wish white women weren't allergic to skirts.

china hasn't produced anything of any value in the last, what.... 1500 years? Even gunpowder, which they always claim, they only used it to make pretty firework colors in the sky like a bunch of retards, instead of taking over the world. Literally name one thing china has contributed to the world in the past 1000 years.

Gormless shuffling immigrants who shit on the floor

>look up compass and paper
>both from 2000 years ago
I got nothing

asian cinema in general is better than western cinema.

a movie like Old Boy could NEVER EVER be made in the west

There some that are good. Stephen chow classics were good,his latest films not so much.
you can bet that government censorship influence this too.

I mean, comparing anyone to whites and early arabs is a fools errand. Virtually everyone else never made fucking ANYTHING

What about a movie about Tiannanmen Square 1989?

DINGSLAYER GET IN HERE

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Why do you find pride in ignorance?

They produce qts with whom u can have the fucc

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;^)

>early Arabs

Arabs never invented anything of value besides the numerical system we use today(even the number 0 was from India)

Mesopotamian and Persian cultures are what you're thinking of

old boy was complete trash

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>Literally name one thing china has contributed to the world in the past 1000 years.
every piece of plastic junk on your desk. checkmate.

zoom zoom

Troll or zoomer scum
Take your pick

actually agree with this as a boomer. it was just muh plot twists: the movie. the hammer scene and the octopus eating scene were both cool though.

okay, lets cut the shit. is there any ACTUALL recent kino from asia (no soko) to check out? how's "shadow"?

good list

could also add Lixin Fan, Yung Chang, Ligma Balls

Chinese people don't understand art. They think a film is just telling a crappy story with pretty visuals. There's no deeper meaning, there are no themes. Everything feels flat and dishonest.

I guess they should just stick to kung fu flicks

2012 winnie the poo became president. He clamp down on certain shit and themes, stifles creative freedom. Also big consortiums that never did movies like the WANDA company wanted to get into films by copying hollywood

Imagine being active on an image board about movies and not knowing Jia Zhangke

>china hasn't produced anything of any value in the last, what.... 1500 years?
Why spend time/resources doing that when you can just copy others?
space.bilibili.com/27479646/video
Look at this shit.

No thats just you being racist

The fight scenes in those films are far and beyond anything the best capeshit films have to offer.

The best part is this is the kind of people that calls other people plebs.

what the fuck is the point of this?

Because you are watching flicks you absolute pleb. That's like eating insects and dog meat on a chink back alley and complaining about their culinary.

name some films then, sir.

House of Flaying Daggers and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon

because only bug people watch them

They didn't even invent the numerical system. They took it from Indians too.

>space.bilibili.com/27479646/video
it compares everytime a chinese tv show obviously copies american shows

Culture has nothing to do with race. Indians make thrash bottom of the barrel films, no different than the Chinese, but there are plenty of good directors that have made some of the best films of the past decade. Same with some directors with Chinese origin that made good films in the west.

China has been suffocated culturally for decades, it's hard for an artist there to get inspired and do real shit, especially with how closet they are to outside influences. The sad thing is outside infulence is their only inspiration, since they killed their own culture.

All their entertainment has been let's try and copy what's popular in the west, make it our, totally miss the point in the process, and release an absolute subpar garbage.

Ash Is Purest White
Mountains May Depart
A Touch Of Sin
An Elephant Sitting Still
Long Day's Journey Into The Night
Kaili Blues
West of the Tracks
Behemoth
Petition
The Assassin
Black Coal, Thin Ice
The Grandmaster
Drug War

reddit

im chinese, this is true
cultural revolution ruined china

okay, Ill check those out. although I saw assassin (looked like a soap opera), touch of zen (actually feel asleep, but it was pretty) and drug war (was meh, liked fulltime killer more)

gay

Are you talking about Hou Hsiao Hsien's The Assassin? Because that doesn't look like a soap opera at all.

watch good chinkino like a brighter summer day, in the mood for love, chungking express, to live etc. Not all chink cinema is retarded kung fu shit ignorant zoomer. Honestly hollywood is so fucking terrible at this point that asia has probably put out more good movies in the last couple decades.

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yeah, I watched a rip and it moved at like 40fps. it looked weird.

>retarded kung fu shit
um, wtf? take that back.

youtube.com/watch?v=q7PVWziS-1w

kino

Must have been the digital cinematography. It looks weird, but it's a gorgeous film.

i enjoy kung fu movies but theyre pretty much chinese cape shit.

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chinese have no taste

>this amount of ignorance when it comes to movies in a Yea Forums board

You're exactly like the fucking cancerous mongheads in the history board that keep repeating /his/ memes and haven't actually read about it or know the actual background of it.

Edward Yang was truly the GOAT.

>early arabs
indians and persians you mean, arabs are useless

is it worth sitting through three kingdoms just for cao cao memes?

This list is kino, I just rewatched Black Coal Thin Ice the other day

>no ed yang

pleb

ok, I always wondered if that was the problem or that's what they were going for. it was around the time Jackson and Cameron was pushing 40fps and I thought he jumped on the wagon.

Yang's one of my favourite directors ever, but I was talking about recent, living, mainland chinese directors. I wrote my PhD on Yang's Yi Yi

cape shit has zero re-watchability

Digital cinematography is cheaper, and these guys don't work on the biggest budgets.

>Even gunpowder, which they always claim, they only used it to make pretty firework colors in the sky like a bunch of retards, instead of taking over the world.
Number one: that's incorrect.
Number two: even if that were true, it is not a vice to use technologies toward peaceful ends. If your first impulse toward a new technology is, "how many people can I kill with this," your mind is diseased

>PhD on Asian cinema
mind posting some old stuff as well then? I might as well take advantage of a credible source while I can

reddit

Read Sontag's Against Interpretation.

Where do you live? All the white girls wear short skirts here.

yes because he is a noone who didnt make any good movies

With old ass hongkong kungfu films, what you see is what you get; a fucking kungfu movie. Thank God I got a channel dedicated to Shaw Bros movies on my cable.

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>China can produce good movies!
>lists out mostly Taiwanese and Hong Kong movies

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the gay area

36 chambers of shaolin
heroes of the east

I've seen a lot of kung fu movies but these are the only two that stand out to me as based. Do you have any recs?

>Taiwanese and Hong Kong
And these people are ________ ?

WHITE WIMMEN BAD
AZZN GUD

>Taiwan, officially the Republic of China, is a state in East Asia. Neighbouring states include the People's Republic of China to the west
Cry more Xi

They were always bad.

How old? I mainly talked about taiwanese cinema and the new wave

Is this why they always do hand gestures and facial movements?
To see what I am talking of, watch Power Rangers.

>Chinese woman
>Blonde
>Braids
This ticks all my boxes. Picked the fuck up.

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Someone recomending Sontag on Yea Forums. There's hope

But in Mexico we are being told Aztecs invented the number zero.

That's because their tradition is mostly derived from theater, that asks for more exagerated gestures. West is obsessed with silly "realism" because all we seem to understand is crude, bland mimesis

>Just like my chinese cartoons.

Also she literally looks like a knock off version of that bitch from GOT.

Because you literally can't do anything but the most cookie cutter bland nonsense or the government partyvan will come pay you a visit.

They're ethnically Chinese, what are you on about. Taiwanese and Chinese (especially people from e.g. Fujian) have way more in common that two goblinos living next to each other in some American city

Yes and so is Tibet.

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>He doesn't rate Zhangke or Yimou

Imagine being an NPC programmed to feel himself an individual.

>that backpedaling
>ethnicity is all that matters, not the state of the country
>that most chinese language kino comes from hong kong and taiwan is merely a coincidence goy
mainland nigger cope is always hilarious

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I enjoyed aspects of Due West: Our Sex Journey, but that may have been made in Hong Kong.

Blame the cultural revolution and Mao.

I've been starting to wonder if Americans (I assume almost all of theses posts are by Americans) have widespread difficulty with visual processing. They're always having problems telling things apart.

What about it?

we don't have that issue with godly british shakespearean actors

You also can't tell anime apart. And I don't mean just the characters, but everything on the screen. You can also look at Steven Universe and Your Name side by side and not be able to tell that anything's different about them.

China never experienced the same artistic development as the West. Our stories mostly deal with individual experience and expression, often against the backdrop of a greater historical drama. A typical Chinese story is just a vehicle for extolling traditional Confucian values and/or patriotism.

The reason Chinese writing is so shitty and their acting is so pitiful is that they don't really understand what they think they should be doing. Their artistry is just a pale imitation of our own. It seems like they're trying to do something they've never done before because they essentially are.

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Who's that? Those thighs are real impressive.

They are trained to be emotionless drones, which is reflected by their entertainment, where characters only have two modes: stoic and snarky. Going beyond that means that the character is having a breakdown and is incapable of coherent speech.

Her Chinese cinema in particular is often either nationalistic tripe or the 312th retelling of Journey to the West.

And here we have yet another NPC programmed to praise his individualism.

at least they had Sun Tzu and Confucius back in the day. hopefully they get their mojo back someday.

They failed for the idol actors type meme as Japan did during the 90s and now they are all shit movies.

>all these retards responding without having seen any of the many chinkinos out there

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*Yet Chinese

Did you actually expect anything from Yea Forums?

>mfw stoner

fuck you user, i didn't want to feel today

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Probably because the cultural revolution nuked their society for half a century.

What's the last time you watched a chinese movie? Because it's obvious that you haven't watched many of them.

Look man, Hero was good and truly epic in scale, but even that is basically 'Murrica, Fuck Yeah: China edition. As are most of their movies. It gets old and is why the more diversified Hollywood offerings appeal to the rest of the world while Chinese dick stroking understandably failed to snatch the market.

>chink
>calling anyone an emotionless drone
The fucking irony

Post examples or stop whining.

I already did post a whole list

Watch better chinese movies, there have been many mentioned in this thread, for example

Independently. And they didn't give it to the rest of the world.

Honkong is not china

>(I assume almost all of theses posts are by Americans)
look at timestamp and think again

I don't mean this thread specifically, and not everyone has a normal sleep schedule.

Acting wise, its kinda the same with other first world asian countries. I'm pretty sure they could act very naturally if their life depended on it, but it seems the asian audiences prefer it mechanical and obvious, especially in some fantasy thing like OP pic.

>look many, this mainstream capeshit tier movie was ok, but it was similar to the other capeshit tier movies. This is the only chinese movie I can think of because I only watch capeshit since im a basedbrained faggot :)

Care to explain why Chinese cinema hasn't taken over? I'm guessing because that IS the full list of good shit.

38 episodes in, contemplating dropping it since the Cao Cao fuck train is about to end.

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The worst threads always come on peak Bong or Aussie hours. It was confirmed by Moot years ago comparing the web traffic.

why has capeshit taken over? because whats popular has nothing to do with whats good, especially when it comes to movies.

Their culture is significantly different from the west. The west only watches that which appeals to them, bland spectacle, like braindead kids.

Censorship keeps films in China unless approved. Yimou's last film got yanked from Cannes

Ip Man's nationalic revisionism was also pretty funny.

Those films were made in Taiwan

I didn't say threads either...

Americans have the most vested interest in commenting on anything related to Japan, and they should make up the majority of the site's userbase.

Why is she blonde? I have never seen a Chinese person or a blonde person please explain.

Unlike based China, which drinks Bayformers and Fast/Furious straight from the tap.

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>Hero was good and truly epic in scale, but even that is basically 'Murrica, Fuck Yeah: China edition.

I cannot even imagine what sort of not even programming but outright fucking hardwiring is required to see Hero this way.

Let me retell the plot changing only the country in question. Imagine a historical fantasy movie where George Washington and his army of identical black drones literally obliterate everything cultured and colorful there is on the American continent. Bunch of mythic heroes attempt to assassinate Washington, but fail because he befuddles the one who came the closest to success with clever demagoguery and his sincere belief in necessity of doing what he does. But in the end that very belief entraps Washington himself and forces him to commit an evil deed he did not want to. The real victors in the end are bureaucrats none of which has his own face or voice.

Feels like Murrica Fuck Yeah! to you?

Asian cant act.

well yes, mainland is trash, except for the stuff they ban there. Taiwan is very good though.

You're the only one bringing up Japan, Ping.

No, you're right, the masses like the same bland stupid trite. That's why their greatest filmmakers are not powerhouses there neither. Same happens in the west. The best american directors, for example, are barely even known by the average american.

Its difficult for Asians to act due to their faces. They have flat faces with no facial features and this slit soulless eyes that you get glean any emotional information from. You cant tell when theyre angry or happy or sad.

This just makes me want a Dynasty Warriors: American Revolution edition.

>a Mongolian tale
>Raise the red lanterns
>the Red Detachment of Women
>Ju Dou

Congrats, I've been 10 years on this site and this could be one of the most stupid things I've ever read.

China is well outside the Western cultural sphere, America has spent a long, long time spreading its culture and cementing itself as the leading producer of media, and English is the global language. China and the West also don't have the best of relations.

It's sadly true. Whoever talks of Altman today for one.

t. Chang

See and Where's your proof that I'm Chinese?

too much government interference

Magnificent example. What was the last time the fucking Academy of Arts recognised Kelly Reichardt? The did manage to nominate a fucking Marvel movie in the Oscars before even uttering her name.

>arguing with brainlets

Neither of those films are distinctly Chinese in terms of authorship and production. Both appeal to Western cinephilia.

This is another example of what I was talking about in

Ad hominem, not an argument.

Modern Chinese media leaves a weird taste in my mouth. All of it is state funded propaganda

The United States is the largest consumer of anime outside of Japan and its not even close. Your posts are shit for two reasons:

1) youre low iq
2) your feelings are being hurt

because just like with everything else, the chinese don't try put in any creative work, they just copy and try to recreate the big hollywood spectacle

>Wu Xia
>Not distinctly chinese
Do you guys even read the stupid crap you write?

That's some powerful-ass projection. The movie spells out that the final assassin was an absolute martyr for the greater good of a united China. A "hero," if you will. The Emperor is never made out to be the bad guy, but instead very reasonable and perceptive. His darker, more realistic coloring contrasts the colorful retellings as a means of both showing him to be grounded in a sense of reality but also showing how fear for his life has left it spartan. You invented an opposing message out of thin air.

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I say kill all the bugs

Asia is the largest foreign market, and how does this refute what I said?

>1) youre low iq
>2) your feelings are being hurt
What are these claims based on?

Hard Boiled is kino, so is Infernal Affairs.

Granted these are Hong Kong-made but they are still Chinese and modern.

Watch Farewell My Concubine.

Because only the Chinese would single out what's not even a reference to Japan and zero in on it. An obsession, if you will.

Well, maybe a Korean would, to be fair.

it is possible to take something that is distinctly chinese - like wu xia - and adapt it in a way that shamelessly panders to western/american sensibilities. crouching tiger, hiddem dragon is guilty of that in the same way many modern hollywood productions are guilty of pandering to the chinese market.

>ctrl+f
>Wandering Earth
>0 results
wtf Yea Forums this movie was at least as good as Armageddon and way better than the Core. Good mix of practical and computer effects, and the english dub is done really well.

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Where did I single out anything, and what makes you think that there are no people other than the Chinese and Koreans who have an interest in Japan? Maybe you are the one who is obsessed.

Also, why do you think it's likely for a Chinese or Korean user to defend Japan?

...

Imagine watching movies dubbed.

Yet this moron watches Hollywood garbage.

Asians wanna be white so bad.

>The movie spells out that the final assassin was an absolute martyr for the greater good of a united China.

And shows that united China brings no one, including the Emperor himself, anything but destruction and misery. It would have been trivially easy to give a demonstration of why China needed to be unified. Kingdom and Bokko mangas for example easily do fine job of portraying the Warring States era as a horror show it likely was. But Hero does not do that. The only horrors are inflicted by Qin army on the defenseless.

>The Emperor is never made out to be the bad guy, but instead very reasonable and perceptive.

How him having skills necessary to win prevents him from being the bad guy?

>His darker, more realistic coloring contrasts the colorful retellings as a means of both showing him to be grounded in a sense of reality

His entire army and court are dark drones as identical as filmmakers could make them without replicating the same guy in CGI. Again, it would have been trivial (and more realistic) to just give them muted colors.

>You invented an opposing message out of thin air.

You are the one doing so, whether because of the cultural preconceptions (and general unfamiliarity with wuxia, where serving the government more often than not means you are a complete monster) or inability to comprehend that movies can have bad endings.

This is projection. There aren't any people on the planet who loathe themselves as much as whites.

Asians have trouble telling white people a part.

See It's not just people.

Oh I somewhat agree, but these insects don't seem to think so. Personally I think Asians hate themselves more than whites. Look at anime. They're cartoons don't even look like themselves.

It doesn't say anywhere that they have to look exactly like real people, and the Japanese do not hate themselves. That's just more projection.

imagine wanting to read your movie

Mongoloids idolize Caucasians. I've seen way too many examples of it than vice versa.

Look at how much Asian girls try and fuck white dudes. Not for any good reason, but because they're white and white people have been pedestalized in their culture. Like it or not, most Asians are cucked as a society.

>Ash Is Purest White
Bad
>Mountains May Depart
Bad
>A Touch Of Sin
Overrated
>An Elephant Sitting Still
Good but like the narrative of Hu Bo or whatever dying is obviously elevating its value
>Long Day's Journey Into The Night
Meme filmmaking
>Kaili Blues
Good
>West of the Tracks
zzz
>Behemoth
who
>Petition
que?
>The Assassin
10/10 masterpiece
>Black Coal, Thin Ice
good but meme noir
>The Grandmaster
Wong's worst lol
>Drug War
literal who

This
>NEW MOVIES BAD
>OLD MOVIES KINO
>SOUL / SOULLESS

Japan is not Asia.

it's roland emmerich tier disaster schlock

And China and Mongolia are any better?

What do they have to do with Japan?

>Not knowing Johnnie To

>No Lu Bu

Yea the olny thing I can think of is a. Crap ton of smog and black smoke in the air and sex slaves and let's not for get the best thing of all that stuff that's killing all the dopers hear in the use. Whants it call ed Fentonil

Their women fuck white dudes just as much. Their men are so cucked. I feel for them

It's the West that's cucked.

What? Hero was about how one man's life cannot be placed above the lives of many.

>butthurt chink still whining

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Who are you referring to?

Are you Chines? No? Well there's your problem.

Because China is a collectivist society. Collectivism hurts creativity because people lack identity. When your entire identity is "I'm Chinese and live in China", how can you be creative? All you can do is copy Hollywood and hope for the best.

Fuck this entire thread, ip man movies, dragon and Big Brother are Kino, and I haven't even watched his cop movie yet.

>ip man
literally Fast and Furious for chinks

soulless rehashed garbage

Cringe

I`m Colombian and also can´t relate to chinese/korean performances, i find them fucking boring and stupid, maybe some Bruce Lee`s had any kind of soul on them, but not so much

>10 years on this site and this could be one of the most stupid things I've ever read.
10 minutes on /pol/ and you can easily find more stupid things than this.

I bet your favorite movie is reservoir dogs, faggot

diabetes affects your eyesight