Why is this still the only capeshit film that's not just great as capeshit but also a legitimately good piece of cinema...

Why is this still the only capeshit film that's not just great as capeshit but also a legitimately good piece of cinema? What went so right?

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Raimi

It was a different time.

It was a movie with a vision behind it. It wasn't meant to be anything else or further a cinematic universe. It just existed to entertain people and tell a good story filled with great characters.

Heart, mind, soul all poured into it.

You watched it as a kid

You forgot of course, the kino that was Batman Returns (1992)

I didn't, I watched it for the first time on a stream with 50 other fa/tv/irgins.

AND the original Batman. Batman Begins is also pretty great.

It was from a time when capeshit didn't plague cinema, sure there were a bunch of movies related to Marvel comics released at that point in time, but it feels less saturated when compared to Disney shitting out capeshit every three months.

They still went a bit too far, though.
>I'm gonna do what Hitler should have done years ago!
Like dear god Raimi

I did like Superman 1 and 2 also.

You mean apart from The Hulk, Iron Man 1(well kinda), Watchmen, and pretty much every Punisher movie.

It was an actual film, not just a product. The first Superman and the Tim Burton Batman movies are also actual films.

> the only capeshit film that's not just great as capeshit but also a legitimately good piece of cinema?

That's not Batman Returns.

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It's not the only one but it is one of the best for sure. Spider-Man 2 and Batman Returns are two of my favourite films of all time as well as being my two favourite comic book films.

Really? I mean I'll grant you they are pretty damn good as far as comic book movies go, but they are still fairly stupid and kinda shitty disposable entertainment movies.

The tim burton batman movies,
the old superman movies,
arguably the dark knight even though it’s overrated it’s still good, maybe batman begins as well
And the first 6 minutes and 37 seconds of tdkr of course

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>they are still fairly stupid and kinda shitty disposable entertainment movies.
Suck my dick faggot

Spider-Man 2 sucks compared to Spider-Man 1, and isn't that good of a movie overall.

t. watched both as a kid when they came out, then rewatched them a few years ago

>And the first 6 minutes and 37 seconds of tdkr of course
The entirety of TDKR was good, I still don't get what people hated about it, it actually continued the plot points of Begins and build on them. TDK was a quip-filled mess and the Joker was the only good part of it

Spider-Man 1 was eh, the sequel improved on literally everything it did.

I agree, great development for Alfred and others
The plot is silly at times but there arent any cape movies that don’t have that problem
I was just saying 6:37 for obvious reasons