What the fuck was his problem?

Because he actually was a villainous cartoon character in real life. Other engineers claim he threatened instant job termination if they didn't carry on with the test, and ignored all of their objections.

>assholes like him exist
>and they are usually bosses

Severe denial. Admitting to seeing graphite around the perimeter means you admit to a fuck up of monumental proportions, which means you're going to get a bullet to the back of the head. Better to be in extreme denial and try to survive than just eat the bullet without trying.

How have you people not met simply unlikable assholes in your life yet? He was one of them. Add power to it and they get drunk on it.

>slav
>white

The guy came from a farm left home at 14 became an electrician, got educated in moscow then worked on nuclear subs. After more than a decade of that he started working at chernobyl and after more than a decade of that you had the meltdown.

He might've been a cunt but I doubt he was as mustache twirling evil as in the show. It's fully possible they fucked the thing up when lowering the control rods the true story is we're not 100% sure what happened.

Here is an interview taken shortly before his death, see for yourself
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All he tried to do was get feedwater to his core.

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>show makes westerners die hard believers in soviet propaganda
Have you guys never heard of a fucking 'fall guy'?

According to his colleagues he was a decent dude.
Strict and demanding, but fair, applying the same high standards to himself.

He really hated incompetence, but had one rule in life that goes completely against the show's narrative - according to everyone who knew him he would never criticize and berate his staff when they are in the process of operating the reactor, because that would disrupt the workflow and create a hazardous situation.

He also was one of the first people to realize that the problem was indeed the explosion in the reactor core, he never tried to hide it IRL.

this is like a advanced version of monkey no see, monkey no hear, monkey no talk

>my boss at mcdonalds is the same as the chief engineer at a nuclear power plant
Are you guys actually fucking stupid or what

REEEEEE NONONO HE WAS LIKE VOLDYMORT CHEETO DRUMOFF DYSTLOV BAD DYATLOV BAAAD. ITS TRUE HBO SAYS ITS TRUE ITS TRUE HE BAD

>bosses cant be assholes everywhere
have you ever been anywhere else other than a mcdonalds

Sub-par troll

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IRL he pushed the team and to disable a bunch of safety measures and so on and so forth, all to run the test that he wasn't even supposed to be in charge of.

But it's because he believed in the AZ-5 failsafe, which in almost all other cases would have worked.

It's actually almost comical how much had to go wrong for the event to occur.

Have you ever been to a place that requires an iq over 50 and requires "bosses" as you call them to have any shred of fucking competence?

If you guys think that asshole boss you have in your minimum wage job could asshole his way up to an engineering position at a nuclear power plant you're wrong. You only say that because you've no notion of what it means to be competent in anything.

I watched an interview with him and he seemed pretty chill, gave off a demanding and strict but fair vibe

It was anti-Russian racist propaganda

Nah I've met guys like him working construction, they're very real.

>t. never had a job
Also, it might as well have been Mcdonalds, the rest of the workers were kids in their 20's.

>Also, it might as well have been Mcdonalds, the rest of the workers were kids in their 20's.
Right, the managers at mcdonalds usually oversee a room full of people with masters and phds in nuclear engineering right?

More scathing satire of the left from Yea Forums to come.

>implying chernobyl workers got their jobs through credentials
lmaoing

[citations needed]

I don't know why HBO decided to aggrandize some people and drag others legacies through the mud.

For example, the coal minister that in the show was presented as a "sleazy youngster in a suit" stereotype, never worked in a mine, didn't understand his people and forced them to work in Chernobyl under the barrel of a gun (two of them, in fact) is a character-assassination of highest grade possible.

In reality the minister was a middle aged man that spent fifteen fucking years working in a mine. He also never forced them to go anywhere, but campaigned for volunteers instead, because he was a well-respected man in their community.

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>implying your two functional brain cells are capable of doing a simple google search
loling

The show in general seemed extremely poorly researched. It basically amounts to a mix of the western and soviet propaganda at the time with little room for truth in the middle.

1) Every show/film that's based on a true story has to be changed somewhat for entertainment purposes - or to make the story 'work' within a specific number of episodes/scenes.
2) I think things like the coal minister was meant to encapsulate how the USSR's pigheadedness, paranoia and overtly authoritarian ways was more often than not it's own undoing.

Damn I’m starting to see why the show wasn’t successful in Russia. But I suppose they could’ve made it much worse than it was, like they still showed spirit and bravery of the people.

One note though, many family members grew up in the CCCP and they say that the incompetency was pretty realistic. Like the scene where the miner asks if his boys will be taken care of, and Boris truly does not know if they will be. Despite their heroic selfless actions, nothing could be guaranteed

Didn't the coal minister dude really pull it out of the fire in the show and convince all the miners to do the job? He was just presented as a greenhorn, which may be incorrect, but he definitely wasn't presented as an empty suit.

You know what's funny?
That whenever western media tries to portray USSR's "pigheadedness" "paranoia" and "overtly authoritarian ways" it always has to try and make shit up, instead of representing real events that would collaborate those presumptions.

Its almost like the whole idea of USSR being horrible and authoritarian state was made up by propagandists during the Cold War and there are no underlying facts to any of this, but only layers of bullshit citing each other.

In the show he showed up with two kids armed with ak's and told them they had to go.

>corroborate*

Having high iq is not related to being an asshole.

>russians is good boys dey dindu nuffins
fuck off shill

And then when they said fuck off he convinced them.

Nah. Like I said, ANY tv show or film based on a true story has to be based on a modicum of fiction. Trying to fit a story and all its context into a film or short series is pretty hard. On top of that, you have to keep the level of suspense up in order to keep the audience interested.

This is the case with every true story; not just the ones depicting the USSR.

This, it's western hypocrisy at its finest

It does almost seem that way, but I’ve heared enough from people alive in the USSR to know shit was fucked. My grandmas sister was sent to a daycare because there was not enough food for her in the household. But the daycare didn’t have enough food either, so they euthanized all the children.
Food was actually the biggest problem, and even being rich wasn’t that good because there weren’t any goodies to spend money on. Capitalism might have some flaws, but the full supermarkets outweigh most of the bad stuff

No they straight up just said "alright I guess we'll go" then they patted his suit down with coal. You might be thinking of the scene where our boy Boris convinces the divers to go.

>It's fully possible they fucked the thing up when lowering the control rods the true story is we're not 100% sure what happened.

THIS 100% its never explained why or how or who fucked up and inserted the controll rods so far in they basically stalled the reactor which lead to the XEON 135 poisoning ... that and the test being postponed because they needed the electricity and caused the test at the shift change....

Fuck the positive void coefficient.. if you studied it all independently those were the reasons... Dyatlov much much less so ....

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wait... you aren’t actually a fan of drumpf (aka Cheeto in Chief) in real life, are you? holy frickin yikes dude

In the current job climate, yes

>the two americans still awake are trying to start a fight over their commander-in-cheeto

He was an idiot put in charge of something very dangerous. He was further motivated by greed/desire.

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But you could excuse any propaganda by it having a modicum of fiction, this is literally how people were taught to make propaganda since ancient Rome.
>you have to keep the level of suspense up in order to keep the audience interested
Yeah, I agree that Saving Private Ryan lacked Jewish commissars shooting disembarking troops in their backs to "up the suspense"
I.e that is just another way to justify propaganda, "sleazy dude in a suit" scene did nothing for the level of suspense, it only took a huge crap on the legacy of one person for the sake of political narrative. If they depicted him as the person he was IRL - the speeches he said to people to persuade them to risk their lives for the sake of their countrymen - this would be a much more powerful scene. But it would go against the author's political narrative, the same narrative that they said they were "trying to avoid" in their "search for TRUTH"
>so they euthanized all the children
I cannot believe that.
My relatives were in Leningrad during the blockade, and even in the worst possible situation, the darkest hour of Soviet Union where people sometimes had to eat stew made of corpses, children were protected above everyone else.

It’s 5:22 AM, I’m trying to sleep and these fucking crows won’t shut the fuck up for 30 minutes now.
CAW CAW CAW CAW CAW CAWCAWCAW CAW
>CAW CAW CAW?
CAWCAW CAWCAWCAWCAW
CAW CAW CAW CAW
FUCKING BIRD NIGGERS

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Just another day in Trump's america am I right.

Qhy do you think the media goes so hard on the anti-Russia angle? It's because they're completely sane and reasonable while our media is ran by a cabal of jews.

>A literal Russian is trying to convince everyone that the Soviet Union isn't that bad after telling everyone about his family being forced to cannibalism in a thread about them messing up a nuclear power plant so bad they almost poisoned Europe to death.

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>According to his colleagues he was a decent dude.
According to others he was under investigation for continued abuse of inferiors and wanted to get the test done partly because he angled for a position that would not require him to work with engineers anymore.

Others said the death of his child changed him and he became an asshole because of it.

In any case he was fully aware of the risk he took and did it anyway because of personal profit reasons so fuck him. Sometimes you roll the dice and lose, and decent people don't roll nuclear reactors.
Like that cunt who built it with unsafe materials so he could get a personal bonus instead of being bitched at.

Chernobyl didn't happen because of bad reactor design. It happened due to human error.

>doubt he was fully to blame IRL
How do people forget one of the first sentences spoken in the show? He was the fall guy for not knowing that the State knew what could potentially happen.

He has a point though that many of the things in the show were made to look bad when they were, in fact, not bad.

Shieeeet I mean the literal “off button” sped shit up exponentially

Look up his interview a while before he died, looks like an extremely innocent old man who wouldn't put thousands of people's lives at risk to benefit himself. The show didn't make him look bad, the show's characters did, in the courtroom, to draw the attention away from the faulty soviet reactor core. I'm pretty sure that's the point of the show.

They showed us the propaganda Dyatlov

>looks like an extremely innocent old man who wouldn't put thousands of people's lives at risk to benefit himself.

look up Pol Pots final interview
he also looks like a old and frail innocent man
stop moralfagging

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Also he thought there'd be a failsafe button, so it didn't matter what he did because they always had that. It's what the Soviet Union told the nuclear scientists. But it wasn't true, the button acted as a detonator. So obviously Dyatlov wasn't completely to blame, because the commies lied to him about how it worked.

Russian media is a joke. Their official government publications are on the level of low effort alt right blogs in the west. Western MSM has many issues but saying 'Russian media is better is insane. It is absolutely possible to be a million times worse. Imagine everything bad about western media turned up to 11 with all the investigative journalism cut away because those who would do that get arrested by the police or executed my """mafia""" thugs.

Everything you dislike about the Us is ten times worse in
Russia, you just happen to agree with some of their bullshit stances for different reasons than they have for having them, mostly because you are a brainwashed retard of the brand they aim to create to prop up their corrupt regime.

You're missing one crucial fact: this was in a socialist/communist society. Anyone who has worked in similar bureaucracies will know that promotions are frequently not connected to competence, but instead to favouritism. It is entirely possible that an incompetent douchebag could be promoted to a senior level in such an environment.

t. 15+ years in professional work, 10 in government.

>things in the show were made to look bad when they were, in fact, not bad
Well ya. It's a dramatization not a documentary.

>I mean the literal “off button” sped shit up exponentially
He had to break every rule in the manual for that to matter in the first place.

>If you guys think that asshole boss you have in your minimum wage job could asshole his way up to an engineering position at a nuclear power plant you're wrong.
Lol. Confirmed for having little to no work experiences. You find choleric and powertripping assholes everywhere.

this

was a fine show until the final episode went "REMEMBAH DA DEAD JEWS?", "REMEMBAH HOW YOU HATE JEWS?" for no reason, felt really forced

oh well, it's a minor complaint

This is how ideology works.

He wasn't completely to blame, only 99%.

That was something that literally happened you retard.

Belarus, actually.
>about his family being forced to cannibalism
Not my family, when the son of my great-great-aunt died during the blockade from pneumonia, she preferred to follow him instead of eating human flesh.

Also do I have to remind you that the reason for this blockade and the dire situation there were civilized Europeans that bombed every supply convoy Soviet Union tried to provide for its citizens?

>According to others he was under investigation for continued abuse of inferiors and wanted to get the test done partly because he angled for a position that would not require him to work with engineers anymore.
That is the official position of his superiors that they used to absolve themselves from any guilt on his trial. He contested it before and after, he even wrote a book on Chernobyl, I recommend you to read it.
>In any case he was fully aware of the risk he took and did it anyway because of personal profit reasons so fuck him
And this part was completely made up by the authors of the show.
There was no personal gain for him in completing the test.
>Sometimes you roll the dice and lose, and decent people don't roll nuclear reactors.
>Like that cunt who built it with unsafe materials so he could get a personal bonus instead of being bitched at.
Again, this is made up and has nothing to do with him, he was not the person who designed the reactor.

It was just so people didn't suddenly think of Legasov as a hero, he wasn't that much of a better man than his surroundings. He never acted against the Soviet regime until he only had 5 years to live because of it.

Yeah but reactors are supposed to be Tard Proof, as they mostly are now

>picks up the dead joos part
>completly ignores the dead poles part
>which were in the same sentence
dude, stop

>there were civilized Europeans that bombed every supply convoy Soviet Union tried to provide for its citizens?
Are you talking about literally 1920 or some shit? Reminder that during that time the Reds were in the process of overthrowing a democratically elected government to replace it with a minority dictatorship, initiating and brutally fighting a civil war to that end.

>There was no personal gain for him in completing the test.
So why did he do it then?
I'm not taking government statements as gospel but they're corroborated by other people and things that happened during the incident. Dyatlov was in denial as fuck about his role and is probably even less reliably than the official soviet sources in this case.

>has nothing to do with him
It was an example for the general bullshit going on and what kind of people were promoted by the system. Dyatlov was someone who simply got things done too. By taking shortcuts.

It's boilin.

Did you forget the fat guy in charge of Minsk who used to work in a shoe shop? He was the example of how connections rather than merit get you further in Soviet Russia.

>Are you talking about literally 1920 or some shit? Reminder that during that time the Reds were in the process of overthrowing a democratically elected government to replace it with a minority dictatorship, initiating and brutally fighting a civil war to that end.
Dude, stop. You are not ready to have a conversation on Soviet Union or history in general.
Blockade of Leningrad happened during WW2
>So why did he do it then?
Because that's what he was supposed to do according to the manual-regulated schedule he had.
He followed the procedure, all the numbers were in the norm.
But that's the thing with theoretical numbers and tests, they are supposed to find the limits of what is safe and possible
And this is what happened, but not in an intended way, because of the fault of design that he had nothing to do with.
The problem was RBMK itself, not Dyatlov.
>Dyatlov was in denial as fuck about his role and is probably even less reliably than the official soviet sources in this case.
>It was an example for the general bullshit going on and what kind of people were promoted by the system. Dyatlov was someone who simply got things done too. By taking shortcuts.
Again, you are talking about the Dyatlov from the show. IRL Dyatlov was a person that "never compromised on safety" and "despised incompetence above anything else"
"He would have never broke the rules presented in the manual"
And he was promoted because of his huge experience in the field.

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>Dude, stop. You are not ready to have a conversation on Soviet Union or history in general.
>Blockade of Leningrad happened during WW2
How the fuck am I supposed to guess that from "Belarus" and "civilized Europeans that bombed every supply convoy Soviet Union tried to provide for its citizens"? Nazis weren't civilized Europeans and Petersburg is not in Belarus.

>He followed the procedure, all the numbers were in the norm.
Except for the reactor power output and the xenon poisoning and the water flow. A competent nuclear engineer would have knows that the reactor was fucked and the test pointless if the reactor didn't spin the turbine at the required speed at the start of the experiment.
>But that's the thing with theoretical numbers and tests, they are supposed to find the limits of what is safe and possible.
The people who wrote the experiment conditions did those calculations and he threw them out the window.

>will the turbine generate enough power under conditions x?
>use radically different conditions y durp

>whole point is to test whether the turbine can keep the reactor from melting down
>TESTING WHETHER THIS IS POSSIBLE Dyatlov thought it wise to superheat the reactor and bring it in an extremely unstable condition at the start of the experiment

Either it's his fault, or he is an utter incompetent, can't have both of those.
Even if A3-5 had worked this would have been a failed test and the reactor was mishandled to the extreme.

idiot

his "competence" and "high standards" are well documented by his actions in control room.

sure it was dramatized, he might not have thrown itinerary at a guy, but the series of events is accurate. He was leading the experiment but didn't inform operators beforehand, he insisted on carrying the test against objections of everyone else. He ignored the computer warning. That test would have been useless at that point because of the conditions. And he insisted reactor was intact despite seeing graphite blocks on the roof and ignored dosimeter warnings.

this all despite having only a ankle deep knowledge about RBMKs.

>how am I supposed to know blockade of Leningrad happened during WW2

that's a tough one

I didn't read that post because it wasn't in the reply chain.

>He followed the procedure, all the numbers were in the norm.

he didn't and they weren't. wtf are you talking about?

A well designed reactor can't explode even if people try to make it. It was a combination of both, they were ignoring certain safety regulation and at the same time they weren't informed about the series of events that could take place and make the reactor go boom.

NEETs have a really sheltered view of life.

>literal commie shills are trying to gaslight how shit the soviet union was
Lmao

You’ve never had a job, have you?

I literally had a boss like Dyatlov in charge of a mid sized chemical plant, screaming at engineers etc.

>How the fuck am I supposed to guess that from "Belarus" and "civilized Europeans that bombed every supply convoy Soviet Union tried to provide for its citizens"? Nazis weren't civilized Europeans and Petersburg is not in Belarus.

>My relatives were in Leningrad during the blockade, and even in the worst possible situation, the darkest hour of Soviet Union where people sometimes had to eat stew made of corpses, children were protected above everyone else.

>yada yada test yada yada xenon yada yada evil Dyatlov shitting on rules
And again, you are quoting the show and not reality.
And the show is loosely based on THE FIRST SOVIET VERSION OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED and this version WAS ABANDONED IN 1991 BECAUSE THE SOVIETS THEMSELVES AGREED THAT DYATLOV WAS RIGHT after which he was RELEASED FROM PRISON and the more sophisticated version of what has happened was presented.
And the blame goes on the designers of RBMK, their manual and tests they invented.
But even they cannot be fully blamed for it, because back when they designed RBMK - there was not enough information available to think of this exact sequence of events that could lead to its destruction.
What Legasov in the show says on Dyatlov's trial (parts of it that are correct) is common knowledge BECAUSE of what has happened in Chernobyl.

Look at the amount of Russians just absolutely seething in this thread lmao

>are well documented by his actions in control room.
Provide the documents in question, otherwise you are just going blindly with the show's narrative.

Bet you have never seen a real commie in you life

Picture this: you live in an authoritarian state, and operate one of its state secrets with high responsibility. On top of this general and ever-present pressure, you have party officials and your immediate boss demanding results from this test in order to meet strict requirements set by the all-powerful party. Next, add the fact that you're a seasoned professional being questioned by, in your eyes, a child. If he was even a slightly unpleasant person naturally, and you add these pressures, the sorts of actions he took and things he said add up. [Spoiler]Really though it was sabotage by the CIA [/Spoiler]

He did nothing wrong.

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He is the perfect metaphor for drumpf.
Doesn’t surprise me that Yea Forums wasn’t watching smartly.

Are you just going to ignore that Chernobyl happened because the control room crew was forced to hammer the wax sealed emergency shutdown button to begin with, which was the direct result of Dyatlov's orders and everything that happened up to then was 100% predictable to anyone with a basic understanding of how RBMK reactors work in theory?

Dyatlov ignored how the reactor works. He ignored the experiment outline, he ignored basic safety protocols. All that before that one thing you claim couldn't be known happened.
Although it actually was known according to wikipedia, though in the case that was circulated the reactor crew wasn't lead by an utter dilettante, so the reactor wasn't on the verge of exploding to begin with so nothing too bad happened and consequently few people cared.

>>

WHERE ARE THE PROOFS

fuck you asshole, tell me what you actually think happened in control room differently than in series, because we have testimonies from operators and support staff all agreeing with each other

show was full of airheaded pussy sheep, demon spawns, and autistic retards
so
take ur pick

and the button worked well within operational envelope of the reactor, again it was dyatlov who forced the test and turning off safety systems

Are you just going to ignore that this was all a part of the scheduled safety test that was designed to stress the reactor's capabilities and "things going badly" was one of the possible and acceptable outcomes of this test, considering how there was supposed to be a special "oh shit" button that was supposed to prevent any serious problems from happening?
Everything that has happened up to the SCRAM system being unable to stop the reactor was acceptable and within the norms. That is why Dyatlov made the right decision to proceed, this is the sign of his competence, if anything.
>Dyatlov ignored how the reactor works. He ignored the experiment outline, he ignored basic safety protocols. All that before that one thing you claim couldn't be known happened.
You keep repeating the same bullshit that has no basis in reality.
Why? Do you think that I will just accept it eventually?
Nah, fuck you leatherman.

Because
> the show is loosely based on THE FIRST SOVIET VERSION OF WHAT HAS HAPPENED
That was presented during the trial, in it everyone tried to cover their asses at the expense o Dyatlov
> and this version WAS ABANDONED IN 1991 BECAUSE THE SOVIETS THEMSELVES AGREED THAT DYATLOV WAS RIGHT
And he later wrote a fucking book on RBMK explaining exactly what was his rationale and why he was right.

>Picture this: you live in an authoritarian state

Fuck of boomer. Americans have no right to talk about life in any places, other than streets they live in.

>Why? Do you think that I will just accept it eventually?
No, I give up. You deny reality. You deny physics and nuclear engineering and facts. Believe what you will.

Considering how you treat the undeniable facts of natural laws I am very doubtful about your assessment of Dyatlov's personality as well, though that cannot be ascertained with perfect clarity, which is why I stopped arguing about it earlier.

From an egoistical perspective, he didn't even do anything wrong. If the core really had exploded, he knew that he was fucking done. So he consciously or subconiously started to only see the scenario where he still had a future (exploding watertank) and concentrated on fixing that situation.

You were unable to present any facts, only show-based presumptions that were either discarded later or were made up by authors in the first place.
You are a dumb and condescending (the worst possible combination) faggot and that is an undeniable fact of natural law™

Why are commiefags acting like dyatlov is held completely responsible by the show? They point out and the creator is very cognizant of the fact that dyatlov was missing information concealed by the state and thought he had a kill switch

>acceptable and within the norms
Soviets ran severely xenon poisoned reactors with severely throttled cooling water influx with all control rods removed as a standard practice while their engineers had a finger hovering over AZ-5 to cut off the expected uncontrollable energy spike resulting from water boiling off as the xenon burns off?

You completely ignored all references to material factors by insisting everything was in spec without explaining how that could possibly be the case, which shows you don't have the slightest clue about nuclear physics or nuclear reactors.

Oh and the whole "concealed by the ebul KGB" shit also never happened.
The moment the flaw in RBMK was realised by the experts - it was fixed.
But that is not cool enough for the show, that aims for Cold War levels of propaganda.

I'm not American, and it's foolish to think that the Soviet Union was anything but an authoritarian state. That does not preclude it from being a generally nice place to live for most people, in fact I understand that, especially in 70s and 80s, the Soviet Union was a very nice place to live for most people, and there was a lot of optimism for the future among young people. That does not mean that it wasn't an authoritarian state, it very much was, and particularly for people in sensitive positions, like Dyatlov, that caused additional pressure and stress.

actually they do, yes

>the moment it was realized
So legasov was just delusional and should have gone to the infirmary?

but never in my perfect workers paradise! Just give communism another try!

Yes and they showed us the propaganda RBMK design flaws too

>Soviets ran severely xenon poisoned reactors with severely throttled cooling water influx with all control rods removed as a standard practice while their engineers had a finger hovering over AZ-5 to cut off the expected uncontrollable energy spike resulting from water boiling off as the xenon burns off?
For the purpose of the test - all of these criteria were deemed to be acceptable by the manual, exactly because there is a SCRAM system that can be used to prevent shit from happening.

This was the conclusion of 1991 investigation, in which Soviets were helped by INSAG
www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub913r_web.pdf
It absolved operators from any guilt. They did everything right.

answer the questions
what happened in control room and how can you insist reactor be within specs whe it wasn't

Best post itt

I already have answered them.
They were "within specs" that Dyatlov and his team had on their hands.
Its not them who were fucking wrong, its the manual.
If they decided to stop the test - and then were unable to prove their point (because the manual would go against their words) they would have been fired for incompetence.

>what happened in control room
Ask the people who were there, like Dyatlov, he even wrote a book about it, explaining in great details what has happened.
And the official version of USSR\Russia\INSAG agrees with him.

But oh wait, he is the baddie of an HBO show, therefore fuck him, everything he says is wrong.

>oh wait hes the baddie
See

go fuck yourself

required power: 700-800 MW
actual power: 200 MW

minimal number of rods to be fully inserted at all times: 28
actual number of rods inserted: 18

what the fuck do you mean by putting within specs into quotation marks

>what happened in control room
you forgot about answering this one, but it's ok, you can do it next time

lmao'ing at the russki apologists
>ALL IS WELL IN SOVIET RUSSIA CHERNOBYL BY HBO IS CAPITALIST PROPAGANDA MOTHER RUSSIA CREATED OSHA THE TESTS WERE TOTALLY SAFE AND SOUND

No you.
>required power: 700-800 MW
>minimal number of rods to be fully inserted at all times: 28
These numbers were refuted in this paper
>www-pub.iaea.org/MTCD/publications/PDF/Pub913r_web.pdf
They were presented on the trial of Dyatlov to blame him for everything.
The actual manual had no regulations on required power or number of rods for the purpose of test.
>Taк, длитeльнaя paбoтa peaктopa нa мoщнocти нижe 700 MBт нe былa зaпpeщeнa дeйcтвoвaвшим нa тoт мoмeнт peглaмeнтoм, кaк этo yтвepждaлocь paнee
You can put this into google-translate yourself, it should give you something readable.
>you forgot about answering this one, but it's ok, you can do it next time
>Ask the people who were there, like Dyatlov, he even wrote a book about it, explaining in great details what has happened.
>And the official version of USSR\Russia\INSAG agrees with him.
>But oh wait, he is the baddie of an HBO show, therefore fuck him, everything he says is wrong.

This show was so weird. If this was the only piece of media about chernobyl you'd seen, you wouldn't know that they encased reactor 4 in a gorillion tons of concrete and continued to run the chernobyl powerplant on 3 reactors for the next 15 years or so. It's bizarre that they would omit this.

Oh and they haven't even added this
>minimal number of rods to be fully inserted at all times: 28
after the Chernobyl incident.
The minimal number they added was 15.

Why are people taking this dramatized Anglo propaganda as fact?

>concrete
They said thats why they were removing the graphite

>continued to run afterward
They do mention that the reactors were still running but i guess they wanted to focus on the problem and its consequences instead of the weird quirks that you'll inevitably find after looking it up. Disappointed that they never showed the FOOT though

In reality the powerplant was made relatively safe and people continued to work there every day until the early 2000's the show seems to be deliberately avoiding this fact. It's strangely absent from the epilogue and the audience is left with this impression of the powerplant as a death zone.

They held the trial relatively near the plant though, if anything it doesnt convey that theres still radiation enough

Are you high? The trial is obviously outside the 30km exclusion zone.

solution to xenon poisoning has been the same
since chicago pile: you wait and let xenon die off. This applies to every single fission reactor in history of mankind. You can't just pull the control rods because of eventual inherently unstable power surge. How did the master of work ethic Dyatlov not see this?

>The actual manual had no regulations on required power or number of rods for the purpose of test.

The series of events started BECAUSE they lowered the power to 700 MW. Where do you think they got the number?

even the goddamn computer told them the configuration was unstable. how can you still insist it was safe

>what happened in control room
you forgot about this time again, don't worry, third time's the charm

It was 12km from the plant lmao

source?

Akimov's book

I dont have one on me

It was soviet law so they had to have it in chernobyl

>getting paid to pretend being upset over a drama
Where do i sign up?

It’s extremely accurate to what he did in the reactor control room.

i get what you mean, but dyatlov went well beyond reasonable denial after seeing graphite on the roof.

He was the one who pushed the infamous 3.6 reading that was sent to Moscow and slowed the response.

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!
TELL THEM, GO TELL THEM, RYZHKOV!
GO TELL THEM HE'S A JOKE!
TELL FUCKING GORBACHEV!
TELL THEM!

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In communism, a McDonalds worker can become head of Cherbloblyl.

>there are approximately 200 squatters living in chernobyl right now

>Doubt you would get to his position if all you did was insult everyone.
Did you not watch the show? He was a massive suckass to superiors, he was just a dick to people below him.

He might have been a really good manager.
The skinny minister of coal was supposed to be a similar example, but in real life the minister of coal was an actual miner for like 20 years

>The series of events started BECAUSE they lowered the power to 700 MW. Where do you think they got the number?
Since they had no number presented to them, they had to put one in themselves, for the protocol.
They eventually agreed on an approximation from 700... 1000 and not as minimal power, but maximal one, because ultimately the power was irrelevant to the test.
Later (but still before the experiment) Akimov even suggested to go all the way down to 200, and since there was no contradiction in the manual - Dyatlov agreed.
Yes, they had a drop even below, but since they were able to recover reactor back to 200 there was no reason not to proceed.

>even the goddamn computer told them the configuration was unstable. how can you still insist it was safe
Do you understand the purpose of a test? Of course it is unstable, it is supposed to be unstable for them to TEST their ability to control it in a (supposedly) safe environment, guaranteed by SCRAM system, they were supposed to be able to manage the poisoning with rods, again, according to the manual. Also the machine failed to calculate the efficiency of rods properly, so they had to disregard it.

>you forgot about this time again, don't worry, third time's the charm
>Ask the people who were there, like Dyatlov, he even wrote a book about it, explaining in great details what has happened.
>And the official version of USSR\Russia\INSAG agrees with him.
>But oh wait, he is the baddie of an HBO show, therefore fuck him, everything he says is wrong.

>Dyatlov, he even wrote a book about it, explaining in great details what has happened.
>>And the official version of USSR\Russia\INSAG agrees with him.
yeah, not like Dyatlov and Glorious Soviet Russia had any reason to lie, amirite?

most realistic non cartoon character in the show

this is what happens when you're fully indoctrinated my maxist communist hyper propaganda

>USSR
>"marxist"

No, the minister provides a very short explanation. He lets the miners know they'll be going to Chernobyl to help fix the situation (no details about how exactly, of course), and the boss miner then agrees to go.

Dumb shit.
Soviet Union made a scapegoat out of him, covering their asses and trying not to expose the glaring problems of RBMK for the whole world.
Later, when they have fixed the problem and there was enough academical pressure from all the nuclear institutes in USSR they had to admit that the operators were not at fault. This was confirmed by the joined 1991 investigation by USSR (that was in its final year) and INSAG (that had no reason to lie for USSR)
And even later that was re-confirmed by another investigation in 1993 conducted by INSAG and acknowledged by Russia

This is one of the very few instances where people were able to finally learn the truth, and the person wrongfully blamed was able to get justice, and all of this for nothing because HBO decided to roll with LE UNBIASED xD initial Soviet version from the trial.
Disgusting.

it was good tv
if you want to be autistic about a country that doesn't exist anymore lmao

>Dumb shit.

most people are ignorant of most things
you spent part of your life learning about what for why?
useless shit, that's what

you posted the same thing for about ten times

might aswell tell us what were those supposed inaccuracies in the original report

>no reason to lie for USSR

except for russia being in an economic meltdown while running fleet of RBMK reactors and with mounting international pressure to shut them down

>we did everything right...

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>unrealistic cartoon character
I also found his asshole-ness comical.

I can see an overseer being strict and intimidating to workers, but this was hilarious incompetence and retardedly ignoring blatantly clear facts, especially after the explosion. How could someone with 25 years of experience in the field act this way?

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Sure

>Dyatlov rushed the experiment with unprepared and inexperienced crew
Wrong.
They were told that their crew will be handling the test the day before the incident, they had time to prepare and talk it over, the manuals for the tests themselves were distributed months before the incident.
>Dyatlov was mentally unstable, screamed at people and generally behaved like an asshole
Wrong. I have already explained why.
>Dyatlov broke the rules of the experiment
Wrong. I have already explained why.
>Operators were to blame for the incident
Wrong. I have already explained why.

The trial itself was a show one, and as Dyatlov himself said - the only reason Akimov, Toptunov and Perevozchenko were not convicted - is because they were dead, cases against them were dropped right after they died.
So instead, """their""" testimonies were used against Dyatlov, them being dead no one could ever prove that these testimonies were made-up by the KGB, along with their humble assistant that goes by the name of Legasov.
Still, KGB had to release Dyatlov when the truth about the incident's origins came out.

He was actually a dick. Far more professional and not as irresponsible and incompetent as the show suggests, but he was a hardass to his underlings.

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Dyatlov Defense Force in full swing