Have film critics ever been so fucking WRONG about a movie as they were about this one?

Hard to tell in comparison to nowadays since critics shit on films more for political and ideological reasons. That happened then as well, but not near as much. They shit all over Carpenter and Morricone's score as well.

I need to see a good poster from this decade

That’s obviously the best but I like these too

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Anybody know if the comics are worth reading?

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I have legit ADHD and I enjoyed it, you're fucking pathetic

Lol give me a break faggot

>main theme is composed of two repeating rapid beats, mimicking the sound of a heart beat
>this is one of the only films Carpenter didn’t score himself, so Morricone tried his best to “mimic” Carpenter’s style
It’s like pottery. How did critics not see that? What’s especially crazy is that Morricone reused part of the soundtrack for Hateful Eight and won an Oscar for it

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One of my favorite openings for a film. My girlfriend got me the soundtrack on vinyl a couple years ago.

youtu.be/ku7qnh261CY

Honestly, where would be a good location if there was EVER a tiny chance of a faithful sequel?
I always thought either a cargo ship or a high security government bunker that locks down after they realize it spread.

Audiences in general didn't get this when it first came out. They were being oversaturated with slasher and scifi flicks at the time and couldn't recognize greatness.

Best poster
Better tagline, the second I mean
Back in the day a tagline like that on a more obscure movie would be an instant rent

>cargo ship
Absolutely. There was even a Survival Horror game that was set there called Cold Fear. I think it would be a great location.

Morricone said that Carpenter actually did the synth bit. I remember he was talking about the Hateful Eight score about how Carpenter had him do a big whole score for the thing then ended up just using his own synth track in the film.

I think the comic books explore that idea with the setting being a base

That’s exactly the game I was thinking of. My man.

What is “No Country For Old Men”

For me, it's the Japanese poster

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New York Times review
>”JOHN CARPENTER'S ''The Thing'' is a foolish, depressing, overproduced movie that mixes horror with science fiction to make something that is fun as neither one thing or the other. Sometimes it looks as if it aspired to be the quintessential moron movie of the 80's - a virtually storyless feature composed of lots of laboratoryconcocted special effects, with the actors used merely as props to be hacked, slashed, disemboweled and decapitated, finally to be eaten and then regurgitated as - guess what? - more laboratory-concocted special effects.”

Inside a barricaded commieblock in some USSR country.

I want to like it but it honestly looks like a Godzilla villain

what an awful poster

From Ebert's review of pic related, was what convinced me that all critics are hacks and faggots
>The predator of the movie's title is a visitor from space; that's established in the opening scene. What it is doing in the jungle is never explained. The creature lives in the trees, even though it seems to be a giant biped much too heavy to swing from vines.
>the action moves so quickly that we overlook questions such as (1) Why would an alien species go to all the effort to send a creature to Earth, just so that it could swing from trees and skin American soldiers? Or, (2) Why would a creature so technologically advanced need to bother with hand-to-hand combat, when it could just zap Arnold with a ray gun?
>None of these logical questions are very important to the movie. "Predator" moves at a breakneck pace, it has strong and simple characterizations, it has good location photography and terrific special effects, and it supplies what it claims to supply: an effective action movie.
Fucking IMAGINE being too braindead to grasp the core concept of goddamn Predator: it's an alien come to Earth to hunt humans. You don't hunt deer with missiles, you go with a rifle, it's about the skill. Imagine being such an 80s protosoi that you can't fathom out the notion of hunting for sport, and then imagine that Ebert's review is one of the few positive ones that came out on the movie's release. Most others trashed it entirely.
FUCK critics and FUCK that dead jawless goober Ebert

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The thumbnail literally is a Godzilla silhouette.

And even when harshly criticizing it, people still admit that it's "The Paper Of Record™" for some stupid reason, because it happens to be published in New York or something, thus continuing to accord it some false, undeserved legitimacy. Almost 40 years after that review appeared in its pages.

Think of how many potential viewers were lost for these movies due to brain dead fucks listening to these fucking parasites

Yes and in the same year.

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Absolute pathetic cucks literally just seething that ET was out at the same time and they couldn't handle the genre whiplash

Given the time and place, I have an autistic pet-idea of having it spread to the Falklands, and this being the real reason for the Falklands War, a cover-up job as the governments try to act at a distance to keep it from spreading.

Treatment: the bodies of Mac and Childs are found, iced-up, both looking human-enough. Americans stop in Stanley, the bodies thaw out, and one of them (we never get confirmation of which) starts the whole thing (heh) going again.

>with the actors used merely as props
Imagine thinking this when The Thing is one of the best displays of paranoia and team dynamics ever put to film.

youtu.be/ZH7hyzPIbp0

>overproduced

kek what does that even mean

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Just the 80s version of the dishonest meme word

they literally say in the movie that the predator is all about the sport of the kill, is he retarded

It's not muh farthouse cinemà that I don't actually like but which praising publically earns me social brownie points

They were trashing movies that were mostly spectacle with between little and zero characterization. Predator was just yet another movie to show off how awesome Arnold is and the thing was just a thin excuse for character effects.

It is impossible to care about the characters in either because they aren’t really characters. But children can easily identify with such barebones entities. So you fast forward 20/30/40 years and the people who saw the movie as children hail the movies as masterpieces. See also; conan.

They don't even need to say it in the movie, it's the fucking tagline on the poster right there

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i like the film very much, but the critics were right in one thing: it's a massive editing abomination

All the characters in the thing act like they had never met a week before the movie started. On a military installation in Antarctica. So all the paranoia comes off as artificial.

>Even reviewers outside the mainstream were hostile towards The Thing. The magazine Cinefantastique ran a cover which asked, "Is this the most hated movie of all time?"
>In science fiction magazine Starlog, critic Alan Spencer wrote, "John Carpenter's The Thing smells, and smells pretty bad. It has no pace, sloppy continuity, zero humor, bland characters on top of being totally devoid of either warmth or humanity [...] It's my contention that John Carpenter was never meant to direct a science-fiction horror movie. Here's some things he'd be better suited to direct: traffic accidents, train wrecks and public floggings."
>Carpenter was left reeling from the critical reaction. "I was pretty stunned by it," he later said. "I made a really gruelling, dark movie, but I [thought] audiences in 1982 wanted to see that."
>"I was called 'a pornographer of violence'," Carpenter said in 1985. "I had no idea it would be received that way [...] The Thing was just too strong for that time. I knew it was going to be strong, but I didn't think it would be too strong [...] I didn't take the public's taste into consideration."

What the fuck are you talking about faggot

They spent a lot of money on effects and not enough on writing.

This one is actually fairly good.

>zero humor
Marvel soi suckers existed even back then

do you know what editing is, you zoomer you?

Too much vfx like in modern capemovies from his view.

I always thought this was a diving suit at first glance.

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off the top of my head:
>windows where were you?!
>tied to this fucking couch!
>windows and the headphones being too loud
>cheating bitch
>ill keeel hugh!

>character's in The Thing are barebones entities
(Wrong)

I know what editing is limp dick. Didn’t answer my question. There’s nothing with the pacing or editing

Conan is far more than just spectacle though, it’s actually pretty intellectually rigorous. The whole thing is about the will to power and how mankind wrestles back control of his own destiny

the shining, but it goes both ways. It wasn't the horrendous shitpile that the critics (including King) said it was back then, but it's not the deep masterpiece people say it is now.

>t.New York Times
All the characters act like men hired to do a job in the middle on nowhere that are forced to be around each other and find ways not to go stir crazy.

>everyone who doesn’t fall in line with me is a zoomer

No one remembers contemporary ripoff Leviathan starring Robocop and Colonel from Rambo. Set on bottom of the sea base.

I do user

like all horror movies, it scared the absolute bejesus out of children. So the children grow up and call it a masterpiece.

Yes, Predator is scarce on plot details. That doesn't make missing some of the few it has better in any way: it makes it worse.

Usually the way you don't go stir-crazy is to not be gigantic dicks to everyone for no good reason and recognize everyone is just as stuck as you are.

But the characters in the thing are written like they're all in high school.

Not him but now that I think a bit, there are some editing issues. The quick-cut from Norris doping up the prisoners with the syringe to Mac making his tape is the two-day-jump in the film. Although Mac does clearly state that the storm's been going for 48 hours, speech like this is easily missed on a first pass. More should have been done editing-wise here to denote the passage of time. There's even a blackout of a beat or two AFTER the tape sequence, AFTER the time-jump, which makes it seem like the time-jump takes place later (but it's already occurred).

Another sequence which is quite confusing to read is which-norwegian-is-which, in the beginning. After a close view I myself have some trouble reading the physicality of the action and the two distinct actors.

Third, the sequence immediately before the second helicopter trip is what gives people the idea that the third figure is Bennings (it isn't), since he has dialogue and is next to Mac and Norris as those two head out. The third is really Palmer, but we can't discern this since he's masked the whole time. There's also a white-out-cut around here IIRC that is just a bit odd.

Overall these are minor issues, but they're there.

the characters in the thing aren't barebones, they just aren't making quips every 30 seconds

So nothing that would bother a non autist who can follow a plot and infer with information given

the huge logical disconnect in "interstellar society" and "trophy hunting" is most of what makes (made) predators so interesting... to kids.

Me too.

>I take every failure hard. The one I took the hardest was The Thing. My career would have been different if that had been a big hit ... The movie was hated. Even by science-fiction fans. They thought that I had betrayed some kind of trust, and the piling on was insane. Even the original movie's director, Christian Nyby, was dissing me.
Why did he get shit on so badly at every turn?
>Assault On Precinct 13
Shat on, now a classic
>Halloween
Shat on, now is forever in the argument for greatest horror film ever made
>The Thing
Shat on, is now considered both one of the greatest horror films AND sci-fi films ever made
>Big Trouble in Little China
Shat on, was a box office bomb that made less than half the budget back, is now a classic
>They Live
Torn into by the (((critics))) due to the immense redpilling, is now a classic and its quotes (such as the kick ass and chew bubblegum line) and visual motifs have now become iconic and still referenced in blockbusters to this day
He was literally just too based and redpilled to stay in hollywood

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This is a total disingenous dodge in the sense that editing itself is autistic and detail-oriented when done properly. Which is why, historically, it was woman's work.

Yep

The thing about the Thing is that it’s not particularly scary when you’re watching it, but as soon as you try to imagine yourself in that situation, you quickly realize that no characters in a horror movie have been in such a fucked up situation. The characters are intelligent for the most part, and do everything right and they still end up screwed.

John Carpenter is my favorite director and it will always piss me off cock sucker audiences and critics don’t appreciate his films.

they're irrational cardboard cutouts. just because another movie has even less characterization deosn't change this.

Halloween was big at time it spawned slasher genre.

everyone used to regularly shit on "aliens are bad" movies because we humans were about to wipe out all life on earth. Science fiction was escapism.

>and do everything right
no one does anything right in the entire movie.

Is that really your best argument?
Modern humans trophy hunt, why would that change if we had spaceships? That's like saying we should have abolished the olympics as soon as we developed flight because otherwise we'd have a 'logical disconnect'
I'd like to think this is bait but it probably isn't

Name five bad decisions made

I always thought the fur from the hood was hair as a kid.

killing the swede before he could kill the dog-thing
letting blair live
letting mac back in
trusting childs after he disappeared
blair touching the pencil with his lips after he touched the thing with it

you're comparing healthy competition to slaughtering sentient life for sport and drastically underestimating the level of mental advancement necessary for the human race as a whole to come together and pool the resources required to become a space faring civilization.

Or you're dancing around the much less interesting explanation for tribal trophy hunting savages to have interstellar travel; its actually really easy and we just don't have the materials on earth.

He has the idea that the characters should have the same information as the omniscient repeat viewer. Still, at least one incredibly stupid mistake is obvious: Copper and MacReady bringing the Thing-corpse back to the base.

Think about it. They had to look at the thing for several minutes. They had to consciously get tools, a tarp, just the two of them. Hauling it. Looking at it. Neither one of them thought "maybe we should just fuck off and call it good." What makes this more ridiculous is all the morose acting around the prop when they have it on the table. Like you (Mac and Doc) already knew you had this shit, lol.

1-4 are all invalid complaints, for various reasons. I accept #5, that is dumb as hell but it can also be read as part of the pre-AIDS society that was coming to an end during the film's release. People just didn't take bodily fluids nearly as seriously 40 years ago.

>man is the warmest place to hide

This sounds hella gay

>He has the idea that the characters should have the same information as the omniscient repeat viewer

Or that adults with military background on a pretty shit detail wouldn't act like the movie's target demographic: high school kids.

based replier to based poster

>There were no bloodborn diseases before AIDS
...

Says a lot about you

what is Synecdoche New York?

This thread makes me want to rewatch the prequel, I've seen The Thing a million times but I've only see the MEW one once and it ain't so bad, has some nice beats

>there is not a single female character in the film
How am I supposed to take this movie seriously?

i do desu

Cool snark. Pray, favor us with exactly which story moments you have in mind, since you've used your phrase a time or two now. I would accept for example Palmer's marijuana use, that one's fair. Others are not fair, for reasons made clear over the course of the narrative.

they kept the females in a cage where they belonged. the bitches.

>Thingu

>killing the swede before he could kill the dog thing
You're fucking stupid. They don't speak the language and he is firing a gun seemingly at them. He ends up shooting one of them in his attempt to kill what they perceive is just a normal dog. It was a perfectly rational decision to make.
>letting blair live
Why would they kill Blair? For what purpose? They have him subdued and he is of no danger to anyone. It would be wholly unnecessary and downright immoral to execute him.
>letting Mac back in
This is not a choice they make. He literally threatens to blow the place up with dynamite if they don't let him in.
>trusting Childs after he disappeared
If you cannot into the ending of the movie then there is no hope for you. Mac does not trust him, yet he does not care.
>Blair touching the pencil
Blair would have been absolutely beyond insane to come to the conclusion about the thing's biological infection progress and the sheer monstrous transformation and total assimilation of you it can make from the slightest contact with it at that point in the film. Why on earth would he jump to that conclusion? Do you think he read the fucking script of the film or something?
Overall, you're fucking retarded.
Kill yourself my man.

The effects are absolute dogshit. I enjoy a lot of movies with laughable effects but knowing what it’s predecessor brought to the table I just can’t enjoy it other than filing under “movies to watch it they’re on and nothing else”

Very dumb post, your age is showing. Of course there were, but again, people just didn't take them as seriously.

It would have changed the entire dynamic.

I've already explained myself several times. Feel free to go through the thread and respond to those points.

>no Evangelion-era The Thing anime

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Blair was the doctor.

The chess computer would like a word.

Also not a character, but the flying saucer model was made by a woman. You should look up the clip of her showing the prop and explaining how it was designed. She's very obviously, literally autistic, and kind of mousy/adorable.

first off, fuck you
the guy was clearly shooting the dog, dog fucker

uh blair wanted them all dead

would you poke a dead animal carcass and lick the stick you touched it with? fukn idiot

Only thing I can think of that’s like that is lily cat. Like a mix between alien and the thing

is John Carpenter the one true king of the '80s?

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Your rebuttal isn't nearlly as clever as you think. Hospitals, clinics and health care workers themselves weren't nearly as strict about biohazards before AIDS forced a culture change across the board. Also he was a biologist, not the station's physician.

Id say so, autistic critic reviews aside, his 80s to 90s run are all absolutely enjoyable to some level

I accept your concession.

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You seem not to understand the difficulties inherent to an anonymous forum (do not say: "follow the thread and it's clear what I'd said.")

>a doctor would have no concern with bloodborn pathogens because AIDS hadn't happened yet
...

*Deep Fear

it's got plenty of dogs and you don't know what sex the alien is supposed to be

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The effects are actually fine, just nowhere as good as they're practical predecessors, if that flick had come out with no John Carpenter film people wouldn't have cared as much. A large part of you thinking that is that it's just not as good a film as well, but it's ok

your reading comprehension sucks.

Or you could just read the thread.

Your entire position is a doctor would go around slurping unknown blood because AIDS hadn't happened.

Wrong

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Make way for true Kino
youtube.com/watch?v=QAoONl2P8fw

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They’re really not. They’re jarring in most scenes and completely just goes to the uncanny valley look.

>cargo ship
>go to top deck
>jump in water
What's the solution?

No, it isn't. Your reading comprehension sucks. Try referring directly to what I wrote above.

Didn’t say it was a perfect location, just thinking of isolated places. Who knows, maybe they’re stuck below and the way to the top deck is impossible

Everything blair did was totally moronic.
Every part of the blood-test scene except the actual blood-test concept.
Everything the Norwegians did

I've lost count.

>Drown in middle of ocean

You're thinking of the Saturn game set below the Ocean on a research facility.

Mate your first attempt got btfo. It's embarrassing to see you try again. Just let it go

I am. You're a moron. As you're saying a doctor would make zero precautions about blood after watching "crazy" norwegians flip the fuck out. As blood would be the only effective carrier of anything in the frozen wastes.

Holy shit that's fucking fantastic

That isn't what I said. Your reading comprehension sucks.

The thing on a cargo-ship ends before it begins. As it would just jump into the water and infect the ocean and then all of the land.

Comics are for kids

>someone saw the Pingu Thing parody for the first time and enjoyed it

This thread has not been a total waste.

Friend, you made an incredibly stupid point and forgot that blair was the doctor. Just own up to it and bow out.

Like I said pal, I’m just spitballing ideas. You got something better I’m all ears

Black Panther being good comes to mind.

If it's on a ship doesn't it stand to reason that it can retreat at any time and jump in the ocean and spread and infect at will probably in some form, maybe the only reason it's still on the ship is them and they realise this while hiding and realise they have to confront it aggressively to save the world.

Blair is not THE doctor. Your reading comprehension sucks.

I see you have no rebuttal. Also I hope you weren't the faggot bitching about anonymous image boards earlier.

What do y'all think of this scene from the 2019 DC Swamp Thing tv show.
youtube.com/watch?v=CLY25pM5lfs
Ya I know its CG, but I was goddam ecstatic to see something so clearly inspired by The Thing.

Perhaps the reason that the thing is on the boat is because it has already infected the general populace and is mopping up the rest of humanity.
Hence why it does not just immediately jump ship.
You could have a cool ending where they make it back and find out everything is ruined.

So think of a situation where they can’t get above deck, Christ. Maybe there’s a storm and it knocks most of the freight containers, blocking all top deck access. Having the crew hunt down others in ship corridors or the loading bay offers a lot of potential. Have the ship departing from the base in the first. Jumping into the ocean would surely just freeze it. Maybe it knows that

>doesn't deny it
I gave you my rebuttal earlier, and i accepted your concession to my rebuttal.

It actually had god tier practical effects but the studio execs stepped in last minute and demanded it all be redone in CG which is why the CGI is so awful.

youtube.com/watch?v=oBAkq1L_iVc

Has that been picked up again yet, seems stupid to cancel so ahead of time

Dude Ebert thought Mortal Kombat sucked because the theatre was too dark. The guy just hated movies.

this

kek'd

blair was wilfred brimley dude. the stations medical doctor.

They wanted it redone because practical effects didn’t look real and weren’t “authentic” according to them.
The people in charge truly are brain dead in Hollywood

If you read my post properly I'm not the other guy and am spiralling with you ya guber

No, he wasn't.

Friend, for all I know you were arguing with yourself.

Also welcome to Yea Forums. How summer been treating you?

Nobody knows about the movie made by the prosthetic people who were pissed off by the studio stepping in and undoing all their hard work on the thing prequel. Harbinger down.

>遊星からの物体X
>The Body from Planet X
The fuck kind of name is this

Here is your final pity (you).

No clue. Read something about cancelling because of a DC premium subscription service or something. Probably worth a google.

Awesome poster

Sorry friend i meant to reply to the other dude

>civilization is over if the thing reaches the top deck

the only thing that would've sold swamp thing to audiences is swamp thing. swamp thing is practically not in swamp thing.

>overproduced
It's like they don't actually know what that word means.

it can become a microscopic blood-slug if it wants. There'd be no way to hermetically seal a cargoship accidentally.

>tfw you will never find out what happened to Nauls
Feels bad man

blair wasn't the medical doctor, that was copper. He was the station's biologist though, so he should still probably have known better.

Modern day Disney and marvel movies because they are paid to.

Any political documentaries because they are all leftist kikes.

That is correct. Carpenter didn't feel like using Morricone's music and put his own stuff.
Which, frankly, wasn't a terrible idea, since it gave the movie a distinctive sound, with a soundtrack more interested in being the right ambiental sound for the movie rather than in being actual music pieces.

he's talking about how all the 'and then they died' scenes stretch on for several minutes because showing off carpenter's creature effects was the primary focus of the movie.

No, but there's a bunch of youtube videos with comic reviewers mocking those, if you want to know what they're all about.

I have to agree. He is barely present so far and his costume is rather bland. Not poor quality or anything, just bland and uninspired. Hopefully he under goes a transformation or something later.

he was the one that lived to tell the tale

So again like I said. They’re sailing in the arctic. It knows it will freeze jumping ship. So the crew has to go deck by deck searching for it and other crew that were scattered

>I didn't take the public's taste into consideration."

thank god

Blair, played by Wilford Brimley, was not the station's medical doctor as you've falsely claimed. Your reading comprehension sucks. Rather he was a biologist. "The Doc" is the phrase used exclusively to refer to Copper, played by Richard Dysart.

Not that it will matter, you can see the cast list of the screenplay for this:

docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/53c578_c813b29a3be3475aa4baeeece69c931f.pdf

Well the thing wanted to be human because no dog would have made it to the coast. So maybe jumping into icy waters isn't the best survival method it would have to find some form of life strong enough to survive in those harsh environments. Still bad situation if it does end up in their but maybe have the place set in particularly harsh waters.

Fuck location. Go big or go home. World Wide invasion, panic everywhere, society resorting to extreme martial law with constant mandatory blood tests, shutting themselves in barricaded cities. The Thing creating an advanced information cloud of flesh and nerve tissue, attempts from the humans to communicate with the Thing...

do you suppose they'd occasionally spare the flamethrower and just toss infected crew members into the sea?

because it can't just infect a fish or something and swim off then infect a person.

that takes away a very important element of the original though -- it's supposed to be isolated

I thought it meant that there were too many people making too many different decisions in the production

All you're doing is quibbling, my autistic friend. It doesn't help your "doctors just walked around covered in blood and drinking from the biohazard bins before AIDS"

Nope. Although canon we don't know what became of Nauls, they had a dope-as-hell sequence all set up of him getting taken by Finla Form Blair-Thing, but they ran out of money.

When you turn the volume up at his disappearance you can hear some slight disturbances in the distance (this is part of what Mac reacts to), so this can be taken as a canon hint that it just snags him just as it did Garry a moment before.

Id like to see the flamethrower come back as nod to the first but I feel like they have to come up with something clever, the whole “it can’t copy inorganic material” was ok for the prequel I guess

it means the decisions aren't being made by the writers or editors.

Yeah I’m sure there’s an over abundance of fish for it to float there and assimilate in freezing cold temperatures. You know, which it froze in when it crashed

That isn't what I said. Your reading comprehension sucks.

>zero humour
Fucking pussies. I bet these people complain that the natural world lacks humour too. These retards need to wake up.

So? I don't want a copy of the first one only in a different place. That was already tried and it sucked.

horror doesn't scare adults. so without humor, horror movies are just boredom.

Well it sucks

You're correct, its actually less retarded than what you said.

>reddit tier shit
>actually good

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Based James Cameron

... you do know there isn't any water below Antarctica, right?

Jesus Christ, how did you manage to summon the brain power to type shamefully plebeian opinion?

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your idea just sounds really bloated is all; it's less horror and more disaster movie. There need to be boundaries.

You’re just nitpicking at this point.

>there need to be boundaries
genrefags are the absolute worst

Not really. Your cargoship idea is just dumb.

Your Michael bay tier spectacle sucks

No you’re just being autistic. Why would it jump off the ship instead of staying to hit a population center when it docks. You’re being cynical and nitpicking stupid shit that can be overlooked

Nah. Plots don't really matter: A good writer can make good horror out of a country wide road trip and a bad one will never scare anybody no matter how closed off and small the location.
All I'm saying is that I'm saying is, there's more possibilities with the concept than just rehashing the same movie.

Because it can. The reason it hung around with people in Antarctica is because it had no other viable options. If there's water, there are viable options.

>All I'm saying is that I'm saying is,
Sorry about the mid-sentence aneurysm, desu.

Then let’s meet in the middle with that concept. Maybe not nationally wide spread but a good sized town in say, the Midwest. Quarantined (at least for the moment) by the military who catches wind of it. Kinda like the movie the crazies

>impossibru

I'll settle for medium-sized city. Let's say Anchorage. Too small and you're just doing The Blob all over again.

>a good sized town in say, the Midwest

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then it assimilates a bird or insect and its past the quarantine.

the movie really only works in the antarctic due to the harsh conditions and lack of lifeforms capable of surviving said conditions.

It would set up for a cool looking scene of soldiers/militia lining up suspected “things” and just flame throwing the shit out of them

I always thought a good location for a possible sequel was in a large ship in the middle of the ocean.

The Thing can't go on water for X reason and there you have film with a similar tone, new location, and higher stakes.

Based, it plays so incredibly well on basic human paranoia.

pretty sure I saw some shitty b movie like that

Quite possibly the greatest sci-fi horror movie ever made.

Harbinger Down (2015) with Lance Herriksen.
youtu.be/P_i6x4rKBjs
Specifically made as an unofficial fan sequel to The Thing, mostly funded through Kickstarter and supposed to showcase the superiority of practical effects, with animatronics and prostethics over CGI by the FX company ADI.
The writing was really bad, the cinematography film-student tier, and the practical effects didn't look that great either.
You could even say it kinda killed the whole meme about practical effects being all that superior, so it may have accomplished the literal opposite of what it set out to do.

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The effects were fantastic though, so there's no problem. The movie is called The Thing, so it stands to reason that the creature would be the centre of the movie.

>dude effects gud so seen gud
...

actually like the book more but the thing is in my top 5 kinos.

My gf is half retarded about good movies and even she was entertained/enjoyed it
How does it feel to have shittier taste than her?

80s was a different time, the horror movies were more in your face
The Thing is more atmospheric slowburner so people didn't get it

Why the fuck do you keep typing like that?

Douse in fuel and set alight via flaregun.

Literally the crew who worked on the Thing prequel. If they had a larger budget it could have worked.

its an effort to replicate how stupid you sound

Maybe.
Maybe the "eeeeevil" studio shirt who was all "I don't like this, let's hastily remake the whole thing with cgi" had an actual point and the practical stuff looked terrible from day 1.

>Have film critics ever been so fucking WRONG about a movie as they were about this one?
Yes, and it ruined a career

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Ebert was and is a hack. You're just understanding this now?

if you don't care about the characters in predator, why would you care that an alien is hunting them for sport?

Being a humongous egomaniac ruined Cimino's career.

>we're gonna need a bigger bucket
absolute cringe.

>it ruined a career
More like the whole movement.

It’s funny that so many of them had to shamefacedly 180 on it.
IIRC they shat on it because ET was popular at the time, and they were pandering to that crowd. Disney may be the most blatant company in history with their coercion of critics, but they’ve never had any standards anyway.

the "original" is an adaptation and carpenters is not a remake its another adaptation so who gives a shit what that faggot has to say?

surely you meant there will be blood?

As a kid I thought this was the Shining.

dont you think a biologist performing an autopsy would be even more likely to avoid contamination of foreign blood? Obviously it was just a nervous tick he absent mindedly performed.

Yep
They were also wrong about:
The Shining
the Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Snatch
The Big Lebowski and pic related

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What is BR2049

on the contrary
that only proves that this flick was so bad that even retarded w*men can enjoy it

I wanna hug Carpenter

>You should look up the clip of her showing the prop and explaining how it was designed.
Got the link?

They were right about all the movies you mentioned except The Shining, though.

the quintessential moron of the 80s

Translation: I suck carpenter's dick to fit in.

Roger Ebert LOVED Synecdoche, New York and that's all you need to understand him. A movie about a fat pretentious navel gazing asswipe who spends his life with his head up his own ass!!!FACT!!!

MUH CHARACTER ARCS

BvS. TLJ in reverse.

Even Kubrick had to put up with old guard critics. Which in my opinion are closer to the true definition of critics. Otherwise you have a nostalgic circle jerk like we have ITT and in much of today's critics. You can tell because they are emotionally invested and will fight in the trenches because an attack on the movie is an attack on their childhood and memories. It's sad and you shouldn't muddy criticism with fanboyism and dismiss all their bullshit opinions instantly.

>t. assblasted critic who got BTFO by time

This one is great, i'd like to get it but i can only find the classic one or some recent shit.

i watched a shitty upload of that on youtube a while back, some interesting ideas but doesn't really scratch the same itch as the thing. felt very made for tv but i guess as a kickstarter film that is to be expected

How come?

You know I'm right because this fanboy instantly takes my point as an assault on himself. His reasoning goes out the window and he believes I was old enough to be a part of the 80s hate machine click.

Dismissed fanboy bitch. Just because your dad rented you a VHS tape when you were 12 does not make it a good movie.

Thank god we are living to see the end of professional critic legitimacy.

Soon studios will just have their own critics. Not shills but literal branded critics and we will all accept it. But until than I can enjoy shits like Ebert and old movie reviews have their insignificant legacies washed away.

Would be good if it was a painting instead of some vectorized shit.

Absolutely based

John Carpenters still got it
Also based Jared Harris is in this movie

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That’s the irony of the message. Predator is satire of trophy-hunting culture. The Predator represents *us*, the “advanced society” devoid of enlightenment. They see themselves as superior to us, therefore, we’re just playthings to them. The same is true of virtually every fuck who ever paid to go on a canned hunt or a “safari.”

They(the Predator species) try to dress it up with honor and sportsmanship, but the end always lays bare the truth - they don’t *want* a truly level playing field, because if they did, they wouldn’t be using stealth camo and plasma weapons to begin with. They wouldn’t so desperately cling to their tech, fearful of it falling into our hands.

>whines about people mocking hack criticism as people taking it as a personal attack, while clearly taking said mockery as a personal attack
The absolute state of projection from fanboy bitches.

>because lions can take our guns and shoot back

What a joke of a thought, you fucking imbecile.

I've watched both The Thing and Predator within the last two years for the first time and still think they are amazing, though.
Are you, per chance, a woman? That would explain a whole lot about your retarded opinions, if you'll excuse my bluntness.

Fucking awesome.

Ha, I almost said inb4 projecting. You sad predictable mental midget.

Fucking love it.

Whatever you say, Roger

That’s a horrifying thought.

>Looking for any reason to attack me as a person instead of my argument

I hit the fanboy gspot and he's squirting unfocused and arbitrary cope every where. He's even asking me to say I'm a woman to in an attempt to get me to disclose a weakness personally because he's getting reamed with every reply.

Haha haha.

underrated

>cargo ship
>thing falls into the ocean
>gg

Your argument (if you can call it that) boils down to "I think people are biased because of nostalgia", and I just told you that I enjoyed the movies only having recently watched them for the first time, so you are basically full of shit with that argumentation.

Also, I did not attack your character, merely pointed out that women (especially modern ones) are not able to perceive and appreciate things the same way as men.
>buzzwords buzzwords, addressing an imaginary audience
So, you are then? No need to get all hysterical either, that's just sad and only proves my point.

kys

Your post is more of a back pedaling apology to me than anything. I reluctantly accept. You just bit off more than you could suck son. Let that be a lesson to you.

>cargo ship

What's stopping the Thing from just jumping overboard?

You sound like a nigger woman, you fucking jannie nigger

Lmao. U mad bro?

the predator and the thing, are the THE most patrician boomer movie choices? any zoomer input about the movies?

You could bullshit a plausible explanation. Maybe it can only infect mammalian life. Which could lead to a confrontation with a terrifying “whale.” That could even be its means of getting ashore. You could have an after-credits sequence depicting a news report of whales and dolphins beaching themselves in an unprecedented wave.

what is all Yea Forumss recommendation

You are not as smart as you think you are. In fact you're fucking retarded and a textbook example of Dunning-Krueger.

>that fucking reddit spacing
Pure soi

retard

I always thought it was a space man suit as a kid

"It has no pace, sloppy continuity, bland characters. It's my contention that John Carpenter was never meant to direct science fiction horror movies. Here are some things he'd be better suited to direct: Traffic accidents, train wrecks and public floggings..." - Alan Spencer, Starlog magazine November, 1982

"A surprising failure" "Carpenter's most unsatisfying film to date." - Phil Hardy, Science Fiction (1984)

"Too phony looking to be disgusting. It qualifies only as instant junk" "A foolish, depressing, overproduced movie that mixes horror with science fiction to make something that is fun as neither one thing or the other. Sometimes it looks as if it aspired to be the quintessential moron movie of the 80's" - Vincent Canby, New York Times

"It seems clear that Carpenter made his choice early on to concentrate on the special effects and the technology and to allow the story and people to become secondary. Because this material has been done before, and better, especially in the original "The Thing"" - Roger Ebert

"This movie is more disgusting than frightening, and most of it is just boring." David Denby, New York Magazine

"The structure of the piece reminds unpleasantly of porno films..." - Daily Variety

"So single-mindedly determined to keep you awake that it almost puts you to sleep" - David Ansen, Newsweek

"A wretched excess" - Gary Arnold, The Washington Post

"The only avenue left to explore would seem to be either concentration camp documentaries or the snuff movie." - William Parente, The Scotsman

"What the old picture delivered – and what Carpenter has missed – was a sense of intense dread." Variety (In 1951, the same paper had said of Nyby's film: "The resourcefulness shown in building the plot groundwork is lacking as the yarn gets into full swing. Cast members fail to communicate any real terror.")

"If you want blood, go to the slaughterhouse. All in all, it's a terrific commercial for J&B Scotch." - Christian Nyby, director of the original

Audiences didn't show up, either. Despite Carpenter's proven track record with Halloween ($47 million), The Fog ($21 million), and Escape from New York ($25 million), the box office for The Thing only amounted to $13.8 million, with an opening weekend gross of $3.1 million.

"In France, I'm an auteur. In England, I'm a horror movie director. In Germany, I'm a filmmaker. In the US, I'm a bum." - John Carpenter

"I take every failure hard. The one I took the hardest was "The Thing". My career would have been different if that had been a big hit... The movie was hated. Even by science-fiction fans. They thought that I had betrayed some kind of trust, and the piling on was insane. Even the original movie's director, Christian Nyby, was dissing me." - John Carpenter

it pushed gore envelope too far at the time: everyone felt queasy and started to nit-pick

Because of this thread, I’ve had the creepy theme from The Thing stuck in my head all day.

Poor Johny

Like the 90s It miniseries

>Even the original movie's director, Christian Nyby, was dissing me.
TTFAW was tone deaf trash with about as much suspense as it had faithfulness to its source material. Actually shocks me to hear that people consider it a classic but it's great that based John got the last laugh.

I've touched my eyes/face after handling raw meat or dead animals a couple times in my life. I'm also usually immediately like ah fuck I'm a retard, but my point is that sometimes you accidentally make habitual movements without thinking about it, doubly so when you're stressed

>the women found Yea Forums

>who gives a shit what that faggot has to say?
Carpenter apparently.

from perspective of main characters the norwegian looked like a mental case + nobody saw dog as a remote threat in any way imaginable. Only from viewer's perspective who knows what movie's reality capable of, the dog might seem suspicious. Yes the fit trump was trigger-happy, but he acted acc. to manual - open fire to stop unstable nutter before he shoots another bystander.
the rest, xcept #5 as noted by follows the same viewer-outside-of-movie perspective logic the characters in their reality wouldn't follow.

yup, it can be just a tick (chewing on pencils reflex)

I also saw it for the first time, thanks (have seen a gif with the dogs getting incinerated but didn't know it was a full video).

cheers - was much more entertaining than RC's take on Alien-Space Flinstones

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