Hey how come you all look like that jango fett guy i just murdered like 10 minutes ago...

Is there anything more disappointing in the prequels than Dooku? The second film set him up to be a legit third option, wanting to defeat the sith but recognizing that the Jedi weren't proactive enough, but then he's killed off in the beginning of RotS as just another bad guy

On Geonosis in AotC

This is retarded. The Clone army isn't inherently evil because it was cloned off Jango. They simply follow the Senate's orders and since Palpatine controls the Senate, he could have all jedis killed
A conventional army would have had the exact same effect
DELTA SQUAD MOTHERFUCKER

But why are the old Star Wars/new Star Wars and then there's that nigger trooper. I don't get it. Wouldn't they still all just be clones or do they actually start recruiting soldiers and paying them wages for no reason

in nuwars they kidnap children and make them be clone troopers for no reason
in the original trilogy i dont think they were clones because leiagha said "aren't you a little short to be a clone trooper"

>do they actually start recruiting soldiers and paying them wages for no reason
Yes, the OT's troopers aren't all clones anymore. This has always been the case. It's not "no reason", they don't have access to the cloning facility anymore
>then there's that nigger trooper
Well that's just because of SJWs obviously

I don't get it

which part don't you get

The Seperatists were handled badly in general, it should have been Sheev capitalizing on the discord and civil war and becoming dictator through political machinations. None of this "master plan" Saturday morning cartoon nonsense. Dooku and the Seps would have been a legitimate opposing side then, with heroes ON BOTH SIDES, like the opening crawl says.

Explain Storm Troopers to me. Are they a mixture of leftover clones from the Clone Wars and regular dudes?

Yes, they are. IIRC there's some EU novels about the dynamics between pure clone troopers and drafted stormtroopers

Why don't they have access to the cloning facility? What stopped? All those clones just died and they start replacing them with random peeps. What stops them all from just going a wall

They eventually start cloning some of the stormtroopers with different human templates later IIRC

>Why don't they have access to the cloning facility?
Don't listen to that guy, the actual reason is that Palpatine found them too mentally inflexible and prone to corruption

Reminder that if take the rate at which Clones die in the movies as the norm, there's no fucking way The Republic stood a chance against the superior Separatists, even with (((Jedi))) interventions.

maybe palpatine blew up the clone planet to cover his tracks
presumably they dont go awol because the government is huge and will kill them for desertion

One of the old ideas was that the Stormtroopers were clones, but they never implemented the idea into the movies.

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Ehhhh sounds like one big plot hole. Pretty dumb desu

youtu.be/GaXHDpCe-KI?t=99

Example starting from 1:25 here: youtube.com/watch?v=Xj49nsG4ruo

look at how the Clones get mogged as they try to clear their Landing Zone. These fuckers took years to train/feed, droids cost next to nothing by comparison.

>being a child

The reason for the Empire not using all clones is never really explained, but it could be a lot of reasons. It could have been because the Rebel threat didn't seem great enough to warrant the creation of a gigantic clone army like that which was needed to fight the CIS. The Galactic Civil War was on a much much smaller scale. The fight on Hoth comprised all of the Rebel forces on one small snowy moon, but the Clone Wars had forces larger than that fighting on nearly every planet in the galaxy. I think it is safe to say that the Empire largely underestimated the Rebels.
You can't just say "Them". Dooku told Obi-Wan. Anakin told Mace. If Dooku and told Mace, it might have gone differently. Obi-wan was always naive in the prequels. Literally after watching video of Anakin dividing children he still callously approaches him without thinking he might endanger Padme, and that it was far past the point where he could talk Anakin out of anything at that point. Also it was at that point in 3 where the council was beginning to realize more and more what they where up against, this might have prompted Mace's swift response, but he was always careful.

he's not really masterplanning anything. controlling both ends of the conflict ensures he can push whatever he wants through the senate and can control the outcome.
general grievous is one of the "heroes" viewed from the POV of separatist worlds.

You're also forgetting palpatine only could act as long as people let him. He always exploits underlying tensions, whether they be ethnic or economic, or political.

I think we can look at the clone-droid war and and analyse that clones would always have a tactical initiative while droids would operate better on a strategic level, being able to threaten multiple worlds at once. The clones are on the back foot the entire time. At the same time the clones + jedi can capture basically anything they want with superior firepower if they focus their attentions.
So it becomes a frantic struggle for the republic to capture key worlds while the hordes of droids threaten multiple fronts at once.

fucking wasted get on a startard

the entire Jedi Council was aware of the clone army being made for the Republic, that's why Yoda went to Kamino to see this "Grand Army of the Republic" that was being made for them, while Mace Windu took the Jedi to Geonosis to rescue Obi-Wan.
I don't see the plot hole you're pointing out. They knew from Obi Wan's report that a clone army was being made and the template was a bounty hunter that they'd been tracking.
If you're referring to them not being suspect that they were being played by a Sith double agent, well, it kind of got doubted because Count Dooku outright told them the truth but because Count Dooku had joined with the Sith they thought he was bullshitting them, why would he use the truth to deceive them?
Probably one of the best forms of deceiving one out there. Tell a truth that's so out there that nobody will believe it, even if it is the truth, they'll focus their attention in the complete opposite direction because they don't believe what you said to them.

When I was a kid I used to call him Typhon Diaz

wasn't quite like that. He didn't tell Obi Wan that he was the Sith's apprentice, he painted it as he formed the separatists because he knew the Republic was being led by a Sith, he tried to convince Obi-Wan to join him and destroy the Sith.

It was a half truth but so unbelievable that he disregarded the whole thing, even the true parts as lies.

wasn't there somewhere in the EU that the Empire invaded Kamino and destroyed the cloning facilities in order to prevent another party from raising their own clone army to oppose the empire?

Anyone can buy a bounty hunter if you have the right money

making clones is more expensive than recruiting grunts and that also make new jobs