What have you seen recently? Anything good and worth recommending? What's Yea Forums's opinion on French New Wave and Czechoslovak New Wave?
I have been watching Paolo Sorrentino's films. His films contain some banal dialogue that he tries to pass off as very deep. In the hands of a lesser director his films would be unbearable. He somehow makes it work, his style is very overdone and it's entertaining to watch. Even his weaker films i liked. I also rewatched La Notte and it was fantastic, my favourite from Antonioni's filmography.
I'm split on FNW. Godard and Truffaut don't do anything for me. On the other hand i'm a big fan of Rivette and Resnais. La Belle Noiseuse and Celine and Julie Go Boating are masterpieces. I have yet to watch any Rohmer films.
Czechoslovak New Wave is pretty great and underrated. There is a wide variety of films from comedies, thrillers to dramas. Everyone can find something from themselves. František Vláčil, Karel Kachyňa, Juraj Herz and Oldřich Lipský are my favourites.
>French New Wave hate it, way too self-aware. You've seen one, you've seen them all
Luke Myers
I agree that some of them are too self aware and annoying but i don't think that once you have seen one you have seen them all. Vlacil is great. Marketa and Valley of the Bees are great, stunning cinematography too.
Jaxon Moore
The only director who's loosely French New Wave I'm really into is Rohmer.
Apichatpong Weerasethakul is pretty great. Tropical Malady and Cemetery of Splendor are also very good.
Is Melville part of FNW? He is pretty great. Still my favourite French director is Bresson.
Jackson Roberts
>Is Melville part of FNW? He's a contemporary of the FNW. Some people insert him in the movement, some don't. I think it's warranted despite the differences.
>Still my favourite French director is Bresson. I can't get into Bresson at all. Disliked both Lancelot du Lac and L'argent. I'll give him one last chance with Au Hasard Balthazar.
Grayson Barnes
this is macedonian panic movement-inspired kino, i imagine most people reading this thread will either like it or pretend to like it
this mostly applies to the cahiers du cinema associated directors like godard and truffaut though, some others like resnais, rivette or varda are much more interesting
It's pretty great. Very slow but very interesting also Emmanuelle Beart is naked for a long time in the film so it's all good.
Blake Bailey
Lately watched Der Himmel Uber Berlin and Melancholia. Going to watch more Lars Von Trier since all I've watched is that and Riget/The Kingdom. Loved both. He has an interesting sense of humour
Levi Gutierrez
The Holy mountain. I didn't get it. I think the last 10 years of capeshit have made me dumber. I am quitting after the new Spooderman
Aiden Gomez
Don't waste your time with The House that Jack built. Probably his worst film; the ending is so trite.
Lucas Turner
I also find lot of Von Trier's films quite funny. Even some more serious films. Something like Dogville and Nymphomaniac have some very funny scenes. The House That Jack Built was full on dark comedy.
William Nguyen
True. In The Kingdom/Riget the Swedish doctor trying to get rid of the comatose girl was more funny than sad.
Carter Peterson
the holy mountain isn't actually a very good film though. If you want to watch something with shock value that's actually purposeful, go watch salò
Wyatt Perry
what's the concensus on kiarostami? I really like his more recent films, like someone in love and copie conforme, planning to watch more of his 90's stuff
>salò I would but i know I can't make it past the poop scene, I can handle gore but poop eating makes me wretch
Jaxson Scott
I really like him, he makes very nice films. I haven't seen Certified Copy, Like Someone In Love and 24 Frames yet but his other films are very good. His 90s films are great.
Christian Nguyen
well, i guess it works better the more digusted you are
The Holy Mountain is meant to be pointless, hence the ending. Don't feel bad for not "getting" it. Try watching it on LSD if you really want to get it
Justin Miller
It doesn't even look real
Josiah James
I love old boy,The Handmaiden,Memories of murder,I saw the devil,The chaser and the wailong.
All of them are great modern arthouse films
John Butler
>Let's find out who has the best ass of both boys and girls! >lol a boy has it fucking gay faggot glad Pasoloni got murdered.
Ryan Phillips
Jodorowsky is a hack.
Joseph Bennett
BASED
Jackson Hughes
yes, i'm sure pasolini made the film because he agrees with those aristocrats so much
Hudson Bailey
>Oldboy >The Handmaiden >Memories of Murder Can these really be considered arthouse? They're all very straightforward
Evan Hernandez
but muh subtitles
Nicholas Evans
So you mean Asian thrillers? Burning, The Yellow Sea, Bittersweet Life, The Man from Nowhere, Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, Sympathy for Lady Vengeance, Mother, Takashi Miike films, New World, Johnnie To films, Bedevilled
Dylan Foster
Call me a pleb; I don't give a fuck, but I loved Mandy. That combination of arthouse and grindhouse needs to become more of a thing.
Watched A Brigther Sumner Day last night, great movie full of layers. I really grew to like the caracteres, the ending was fucked up though. Thanks to user that rec this one.
Kayden Ortiz
Watch the terrorizers next, it's probably my favorite of his
Tyler Richardson
I like all of Yang's films except for Taipei Story. Yi Yi, ABSD and Terrorizers are my favourites from him. Definitely check out the rest of his filmography.
David Garcia
Has anyone seen Stations of the Cross? German film, gonna see it soon. Also the Anne Frank film from 2016.
Kayden Murphy
As an incel, will I get triggered if I watch La Belle Noiseuse?
Also, with this in mind, where to start with Rohmer?
Grayson Thompson
I didn't like Like Someone in Love, I'll check out Certified Copy someday. His '90s Iranian films are fascinating -- that kind of cinema tends to be very meta and incredibly blurs the line between reality and fiction. His films Closeup, A Taste of Cherry, and Ten are worth watching. And for further viewing, check out The Mirror, Taxi, A Moment of Innocence, and Salaam Cinema.
Ryder Gray
Forget to mention the Koker trilogy, it's also amazing (though I fucked up and watched it out of order).
Henry Hall
add Parasite to the list. I saw it on the weekend, get hyped, people
Levi Lopez
You may get triggered since Emmanuelle Beart is naked through a large portion of the film.
Just go chronologically, you can start with The Bakery Girl of Monceau.
Dylan Myers
That's good to hear. Really looking forward to that one. Korean rip when?
Joseph Jenkins
>op literally posts Rivette >le meme neon Mandy
John Wilson
I'm looking for a film that is briefly shown in Histoire du Cinema maybe you guys can help.....
The scene is in color and has a women in a red dress(?) crawling on the ground towards a gun I believe(?). It's repeated throughout episodes.
Any help would be appreciated.
Charles Perez
Why didn't you start with his stuff from the 90's???
James Mitchell
Still the most recent thing I watched was Refn's "TOO OLD TO DIE YOUNG" of which I fast forwarded 60% since it was just
> muh slow cinemumz no characters and drama 4u
Dominic Cook
But slow cinema is pretty great Angelopoulos, Tarr, Tarkovsky and Tsai Ming Liang are all good.
Samuel Smith
I should really finish one of their films someday.
Julian Nelson
Which one did you try to watch?
Adrian Baker
I've only just watched 1-2 minutes of each.
Wyatt Richardson
Are you the user who have seen 2 minutes of Angelopoulos and claimed that he is better than Tarkovsky or something like that?
Kek, yes we have met several times already. I liked Too Old to Die Young, especially episode 5, the car chase scene was pretty good.
Jack Ross
I ain't gonna lie I was half-baiting and ridiculing some of the more glowing reviews it got. I really enjoyed its shadows, colors and autistic camera. Refn has good eye. This was the second Refn film I've seen, Drive being the other one.
I disagree with people claiming that it's a masterpiece, that's really not the case. The digital blood looked like shit. Pusher trilogy is pretty good, it shows that refn is able to have normal, non-autistic character as a lead.
Nathaniel Nguyen
saw this awhile back. it's a weird one to be sure.
Gabriel Reyes
> The digital blood looked like shit Had a bit of a giggle when one of the gangsters gets shot in a drive-by by the motorcyclist.
I'll probably rewatch it soon enough, I didn't really let myself appreciate the slowness of it all.
I thought the ending of episode 2 was funny, the digital blood was done so sloppily that it undermined the whole execution scene.
Ian Kelly
Thoughts of Fassbinder?
I really liked Ali and Petra von Kant, but I didn't care at all for Chinese Roulette (stilted intellectual melodrama that doesn't go anywhere beyond making fun of the conceitedness of bourgeois society) or the Merchant of Four Seasons World on a Wire is decent overall, but the second part shows that he couldn't pull thrillers (actions scenes and build-up being awkward and anticlimactic). I enjoyed The 13th Floor much more. BRD trilogy Lola>Maria Braun>Veronika Voss Looking forward to seeing A Year with 13 Moons and Fox and Friends
Leo Morris
>French >Cohen Media Group let me guess it has shitload of degeneracy
Jordan Martin
Not really, it's great and complex film about artistic process of a painter. I don't think Rivette made films with shitload of degeneracy. I think Berlin Alexanderplatz is his masterpiece. I'm not a big fan Ali. Fox and His Friends, Petra Von Kant, Maria Braun, Veronika Moss, Lola, World on Wire and Eight Hours Don't Make a Day are all really good too. Querelle and Satan's Brew i didn't like at all. The faggotry in Querelle was unbearable.
Michael Watson
I wanked to prime emmanuelle bert posing in all sorts of sexy positions for half an hour. It was pretty good.
Caleb Jackson
Slow cinema is, Refn is not.
Parker Bennett
Fox and his Friends is really good, I really love the final scene of the film.
Maria Braun > Lola >>>> Veronika Voss
Christopher Brown
Just watched A Zed and Two Noughts. I wasn't a huge fan of The Draughtsman's Contract (the other Greenaway movie I've seen) but I found this one pretty intriguing. I really loved the cinematography, you can tell with his gorgously composed wide shot tableaus how influenced he is by painting. I think I'm going to keep going chronologically through his work, I'll get to The Falls later since it seems to be an outlier in his filmography.
Daniel Gomez
recently watched aguirre a masterpiece, werner herzog is a god
Alexander Moore
now watch stroszek and heart of glass
Adrian Anderson
It's good to go chronologically with him, you can see how he develops. Later on his films become more inaccessible i would say. Something like Prospero's Book is very interesting. Greenaway + Sacha Vierny + Michael Nyman = kino
I have never watched arthouse films. Are there any that explore nihilism or existentialism?
Camden Hernandez
about 90% of them feature nihilism if you arent being sarcastic
Zachary Lopez
I think it's one of the most boring movies I've ever watched.
Parker Jones
Why? Have you seen the rest of the trilogy?
Adam Jackson
Not being sarcastic. Can you recommend me some that you find good or interesting?
Nicholas Diaz
>THE BEST FILM I HAVE EVER SEEN >about the struggles of mongolian horse riders in an increasingly urbanized society and the specific implications on masculinity, femininity and pan-nationalism
lol at dishonest posters
Alexander Gray
Werckmeister Harmonies, The Turin Horse, L'Avventura, Red Desert, La Dolce Vita, Eternity and a Day
Adam Butler
Kolya
Luke Wright
Very nice film.
Matthew Wilson
Thank you, I'll track these down asap
Adam Gutierrez
Werckmeister Harmonies, The Turin Horse and Eternity and a Day use lot of long takes so be prepared for that.
Michael Hall
his best for me is antichrist, it's the best rendition of true depression and desolation i've ever watched, complete soul and emotion
Camden Diaz
LA JETÉE A
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Nicholas Morales
I actually enjoy long takes, at least those I have seen in not arthouse films
Nathaniel Ortiz
kinopill me on Rivette and Antonioni the only Rivette I've seen was le pont du nord, was pretty underwhelming desu from Antonioni I think I've only watched Zebrynski Point, which I enjoyed
Jaxson Rivera
This is mainly Godard. Truffaut is based
Levi Scott
>Antonioni blowup is a relatively easy watch
Charles Allen
Watched Man Bites Dog at the recommendation of someone from an earlier thread, really enjoyed it. The main actor was excellent at playing an autist who wanted to look cool. The scene where he's in the shootout and orders the cameraman to go around the corner to look (right after the sound guy gets killed) was hilarious, that and when he killed the rival serial killer and found out he'd had a camera crew following him as well.
Nolan Baker
I’ve been watching a lot of Mikio Naruse lately, I’ve been enjoying it a lot to my surprise considering I usually hate humanistic dramas with an extreme passion. The movie has to have some sort of extraordinary themes or phenomena happening, just even if it’s a small implication of some sort of greater faith for me to consider it ‘kino’. I’d recommend Rehearsals for Retirment as something quick to watch, it’s a 13 minute short film shot entirely in the Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas game engine, its a tribute to the directors dead friend, it feels like you’re viewing an actual journey into the afterlife happening in real time. Nainsukh and The Unkown Craftsmen are a must watch as well. Amit Dutta really knows how to reel himself in with this sort of ironic mirthful visual literacy that he displays, his movies have real wit and heart but not in some faggy reddit way. Here’s everything I’ve watched in the past couple days (also pls add me on Letterboxd)
Zabriskie Point is one of his weakest ones. I love pretty much most of his flicks, one of the best arthouse filmmakers defo.
Alexander Ramirez
she's mesmerizingly beautiful in black and white.
William Richardson
Anyone find Lynch's cult like fanbase disturbing?
Kino is going to put out a blu ray of Lost Highway and this asshole puts out a tweet saying essentially "This version is shit, doesn't use the original camera negate, don't buy"
Turns out Kino contacted this twat to oversee a 4k transfer from the OG negative and he either told them to fuck off or never responded.
Of course Kino is getting shit on because of this by his cult but, it seems like this was on Lynch.
Brandon Morgan
I'm gonna watch it zebrinksie reminded me a lot of lumet and cassavettes for some reason cassavettes for me is maybe the most underrated director, I've only watched 2 of him and they were completely amazing, the kind of movie you sit through the credits just thinking about what you've seen I was in that thread, I guess I'll watch it too now
Bentley Murphy
Here the long takes are like people walking for 5 minutes. Tarr who made Werckmeister Harmonies and The Turin Horse uses long takes to put you into sort of hypnotic state where you don't perceive time and space so you can completely immerse yourself into the film. If you want to watch Tarr start with Werckmeister it has some sort of plot. I thought Le Pond du Nord was good. I really like Rivette, check out Celine and Julie Go Boating, La Belle Noiseuse and The Story of Marie and Julien. Antonioni you can watch Il Grido then the alienation trilogy. It's highly subjective but i prefer La Notte and L'eclisse which are masterpieces to L'Avventura which is a bit dull. Red Desert is also good. Blow-up is interesting, if you have seen The Conversation and Blow Out you might see how Antonioni influenced those films. The Passenger was decent although i have to admit i was lost at some points.
Owen Campbell
It's great dark comedy, like a more absurd American Psycho in a lot of ways
William Martinez
Sans Soleil desu
Henry Moore
Jodorowsky blows.
Landon Roberts
I tried watching it and gave up around halfway through. Not my thing at all.
Easton Collins
Go to bed, Mike.
Zachary Diaz
Anybody here seen Joao Cesar Monteiro films? Vai e Vem, As Bodas de Deus, God's Comedy, Hovering Over the Water and Recollections of the Yellow House are all pretty great.
are you portuguese? he's not very well known the only portuguese I know is Manoel, also know pedro costa but fuck that noise
Isaac Nelson
No, i just heard he is good so i seeked his films out. Manoel is also good but he can be hit and miss. Costa makes interesting films but i haven't seen everything from him. In Vanda's Room was really good.
Lincoln Morgan
what's wrong with costa?
Grayson James
I saw horse money and completely despised it, what was that thing even
Brayden Ward
In Vanda's Room and Colossal Youth are quite good.