>Danny Boyle has refused to cut Oasis scene despite requests from American distributors
>In "Yesterday", the pivotal moment in which failed thirty-four year old singer-songwriter Jack Malik first discovers that the Beatles never existed starts with a five minute scene about the rock group Oasis. When Jack is about to bomb yet another open mic performance, he decides to bust out a version of Oasis' oft-covered 1995 mega-hit "Wonderwall" - to no avail. Disappointed at the flat response to what is usually a show-saving mass sing-a-long number, Jack walks off stage dejected and blames it on his own lack of talent.
>Post-show, his best friend Ellie mentions she loved the last song and inquires if he had written it himself. An upset Jack assumes she's mocking him and tells her to "piss off" before realizing she was being genuine - she didn't know "Wonderwall". Jack then becomes incredulous: "What do you mean you never heard that before? We all saw Oasis at Reading! Are you mad?". When she proclaims to have never heard of Oasis, Jack plays the choruses to several of their songs on his acoustic guitar to jog her memory - "Don't Look Back in Anger", "Live Forever", "Champagne Supernova", but Ellie is unmoved.
>Jack then races home and does a Google search for "Oasis" which turns up nothing. Incredibly confused, he then searches for the band that Oasis were famously compared to during their rise to fame - The Beatles - only to find that they never existed.
>This expositional scene was one of the first big belly laugh moments of the film in early showings. It reportedly aroused riotous laughter from audience members young and old, particularly in England, where Manchester-based Oasis was the biggest musical and cultural phenomenon of the mid-1990s. Here, the Beatles-influenced, Manchester-based band racked up eight #1 hits (though "Wonderwall" would only peak at #2) before their demise in 2009, received years odf tabloid coverage revolving around the exploits and squabbles of Liam and Noel Gallagher, and an ever-growing following of younger fans which now fuels the post-Oasis solo careers of the two brothers.
>However, the sequence had the opposite effect in America. At it's Tribeca Film Festival screening in New York City, it elicited practically no reaction at all, save for what some reported as "confused murmuring" in audience. Early test screenings in both large and small markets across America, too, found that many participants did not find the scene funny and were confused over its purpose. When queried, the vast majority of these respondents stated they were totally unfamiliar with the song "Wonderwall", much less the band Oasis itself and their other songs included in the sequence. Additionally, multiple responses were unsure whether Oasis and these songs were real or a fictional part of the film's universe.
Jason Cook
>Representatives from the film's American distributors, Universal Pictures, were reportedly "incredibly displeased" about this portion of the film, which was derided as "extraneous" and "needlessly challenging" for American audiences. Last minute demands for director Danny Boyle and his team of producers to entirely eliminate and reshoot the scene for the American cut were steadfastly ignored, much to Universal's chagrin. Sources on the inside say that tensions between the creative team and it's financers have only continued to grow and the film's move from a September to June opening was in part due to fears of a stateside flop as "Yesterday" receives mixed reviews.
Kevin Jones
Oasis are a one-hit wonder outside of Surveillance Island. Expecting non-bongs to understand this is like expecting Rwandans to remember who Chumbawumba were. Anyway, this story is a sign the movie is expected to flop and the studio is desperate for something to blame. So the decision is to scapegoat this joke, but not the terrible premise nor casting a pooman as an English busker.
Parker Davis
reminder they cut all of ana de arma's scenes from the movie
Owen Reed
>Oasis are a one-hit wonder outside of Surveillance Island. Expecting non-bongs to understand this is like expecting Rwandans to remember who Chumbawumba were. They had at least 3 big hits in America. All off the same album, but still, come on son.
Ryan Powell
Why?
Elijah Murphy
Too hot for burgers to understand
Owen Torres
Just more Boomer wanking fart sniffing bullshit >muh beatles kill yourselves
Cameron Scott
American here. Oasis was a great band
Thomas Miller
based
Jaxson Green
How many more of these shitty films are they going to do?
Wyatt Phillips
If I were this nigger and found out that I was the only one who remembered the Beatles and all of their music, I'd do the world a favor and put a revolver in my mouth.
>the film's move from a September to June opening was in part due to fears of a stateside flop
Yeah, but also there's literally ANOTHER movie about a British-Indian who loves classic rock (this time it's Bruce Springsteen) coming out in August, so they probably didn't want to have the two overlap:
Does The Clash still exist? What do the London Calling lyrics reference instead of "phony beatlemania "?
Aaron Peterson
Elvis
Aaron Rogers
Britcucks thinking the "oasis" reference is humorous makes complete sense when you remember they think chasing Mary Poppins for 15 minutes to wacky music is humorous
Adam Ortiz
Reminds me of this one
>The Boat That Rocked was the true story of a ship that hosted an unlicensed radio station broadcasting rock music off the British coast in the 1960s >Americans didn't understand the pun/double entendre so the film was renamed "Pirate Radio" for the US release
>exhausted the rock biopic trend >now it's just film after film of Indian guys who love boomer shit What creative idea while hollywood come up with next? How about a Taiwanese guy who loves Tupac?
Austin Bennett
So they use Oasis for a long drawn out joke that isn't even that funny and takes away from the actual main reveal of the Beatles never existing? Now I know I'm not paying for this movie.
I've always liked fiction based on alternate history and in this case it would be cool to sit down and think about a world without the biggest pop band ever, how much would world events and not just music change without them. But it seems it's just going to be a barely-thought "what if" used as an excuse to have a poo-in-loo get with a white woman.
Hudson Jones
Make it a Korean kid and a black kid in central LA bonding over hip hop music - then the 1992 race riots break out. It'll be gold Jerry, the audiences ah gonna love it.
Logan White
>British Indian who's life is changed by Bruce Springsteen
That doesn't sound plausible at all wtf Who is going to watch this?
Adam Brooks
>t. zero reading comprehension You realize the entire point is "if the Beatles never existed then all the bands they influenced (re: Oasis) would also never exist"? It's literally one scene meant to reveal the central premise of the film.
Justin Hughes
>3 You know it's 2.
Gavin Murphy
>put a revolver in my mouth.
cool of you to start with singing from the best album
For American version just make it be Nirvana and Smell like teen spriit.
Alexander Hernandez
We're talking about a world where The Beatles never existed, not a world where heroin never existed
Parker Reed
It's retarded bullshit they guise under the illusion that "we dont get it."
Nathaniel Clark
that doesn't make sense though
Brody Myers
the joke is that oasis supposedly ripped off the beatles. what the fuck does nirvana has to do with the beatles you mongoloid??
Matthew Scott
They're a popular band from the 90s so it makes sense.
Jackson Clark
you actually don't get it, you dumb american.
Jayden Jones
The point isn't that they're popular or from the 90s. It's the Beatles part. That what makes the joke actually make sense.
Ayden Lewis
But nobody knows who oasis is.
Evan Carter
typical american not getting anything
Gavin Baker
you gotta get into some pretty obscure oasis to see any beatles influence too.
Kevin Evans
not the point either you dumb american. it was something the press and public said when they were popular, that's it.
Jackson Turner
They're massive in many countries in Europe too.
Jason Long
>it was something the press and public said when they were popular, that's it. nobody knows what goes on in your tiny island
Zachary Ramirez
Don't Look Back wasn't a big hit at all and Champagne Supernova peaked at 20 on the Hot 100, which is commendable but doesn't change the fact neither song had anywhere near the impact of Wonderwall in the US.
Isaac Anderson
No you don't man. On the surface level, their image (haircuts/sunglasses especially) and the aesthetics of their biggest videos were Beatles-esque/vaguely "psychedelic". They talked about wanting to be bigger than the Beatles in interviews, etc. Don't Look Back in Anger had it's intro taken from Imagine. It's not very hard at all. That was the image they put out in the media. When people think of Oasis, they think "Wonderwall", the Beatles, and fighting brothers.
Isaac Wright
In all seriousness, who is this movie for? What's the appeal? Like, this isn't a very interesting premise, in my opinion. What is the point of this film?
Jose Mitchell
I never understood this line of thinking. If the Beatles never existed some other band would've filled their void. Rock pop isn't unique, even in the 60s
Parker Bennett
Bend it like Beckham for boomers.
Sebastian Thomas
Danny Boyle was once a respected director and he's been blowing through his goodwill for years in pursuit of his bizarre curry fetish.
Anthony Young
i'm not british
John Smith
fuck the beatles, fuck oasis and fuck the eternal anglo
Lucas Morris
>dont look back in anger >not obscure don't know if we got any of their videos either.
Oliver Harris
>Don't Look Back wasn't a big hit at all and Champagne Supernova peaked at 20 on the Hot 100, In terms of sales, but it terms of radio and MTV play both were big. Champagne Supernova peaked just as high as Wonderwall on pop radio and modern rock radio charts.
Also, just because they didn't have as big of an impact as Wonderwall doesn't mean they weren't hits. That song has had greater longevity and more cultural resonance than tons of huge hits of yesteryear. It was the first song released in the 20th century to break 500 million streams on Spotify.
Hudson Morris
>tfw thought Dannny Boyle was Frankie Boyle
Levi Rivera
>not an action film for american audiences so no one is interested by default
go watch more superman vs batman you fucking retard
Ryan Gomez
pirate radio is an objectively better title
Ayden Collins
Make the joke about Blur and watch our really confused American faces.
Michael Sanders
>>dont look back in anger >>not obscure >don't know if we got any of their videos either.
Ok now you're just being stupid on purpose. Wonderwall alone was one of the most played videos on MTV in the mid-90s.
Elijah Lopez
Who the fuck actually likes Bruce Springsteen?
Hudson Fisher
I think you want to find out if the protagonist somehow gets found out as a fraud or if he lives happily ever after in an alternate universe
Logan Flores
last chance to exploit boomer nostalgia before they die
Ian Baker
oh, yes of course i meant to exclude wonderwall. I know we got a lot of other better videos from bong acts too, pretty rare for one album to get more than one video.
boomers
Adam Gomez
>Don't Look Back wasn't a big hit at all You'd be surprised how many people in America know this song actually. It didn't do well on the charts, but charts don't always tell the full picture. I mean Modern English "I Melt With You" never got above like #70 back in the 80s but that's definitely a classic 80s hit. Not Thriller-tier or anything, but still...
Mason Miller
I've never even seen that movie, you stupid motherfucking faggot.
Robert Foster
Isn't blur the woohoo band? Pretty sure I owned an album... glycerine, machine Head. I'm from north america and very familiar with them and oasis and wouldn't consider myself a big fan of either
Grayson Johnson
>I know we got a lot of other better videos from bong acts too, pretty rare for one album to get more than one video. Like who?
Pretty sure Oasis had like 4 videos on MTV off that album (though the first one was only on later at night because it was before Wonderwall blew up)
Justin Collins
based
Justin Hernandez
you have to understand the payola system to grasp the sort of competition you're up against in the US. they're not going to bribe you TWICE for the same album.
Elijah Nelson
i actually quite like a little bit of the boss myself
David Moore
What in god's name are you talking about?
Noah Sanchez
What rock/heavy metal band isnt?
Aiden Taylor
radio/tv take bribes for airtime, its illegal but 100% in effect at all times. playing two singles/videos from one album would just defeat the purpose.
Jack Gomez
that was bush dude
Ryan Butler
Are you arguing that they weren't? Boy bands and girl groups were red-hot in the 90s. It didn't matter whee they came from.
Owen Bailey
>t. boomer
Camden Phillips
latin america is like 15-20 years behind in every trend, they still sell the genesis in brazil
Josiah Morgan
And yet.. it happened. I don't know what you're trying to say. The Smashing Pumpkins had like 6 or 7 videos from Mellon Collie on MTV too.
Mason Nguyen
How can American unironically not know about "Wonderwall"
Brody Taylor
Blur is indeed the Woo Hoo band, which was in the trailer of the film starship troopers and thus everyone recognizes song2. Coffee and tv was also pretty big.
well that was a major cultural event, oasis not so much.
Daniel Wood
>playing two singles/videos from one album would just defeat the purpose. Not at the same time you doofus. You play one, see if becomes a hit, then play the next one after and hopefully that becomes a hit too. Rinse repeat.
Parker Morris
kyfs
Bentley Myers
No you have to be a fucking idiot or have lived under a rock since 1960 to not know about these songs. Given the mental state of the average 50+ year old US citizen both of those statements might be true.
Bentley Scott
Didn't listen to it that much
Ryan Collins
>a hit it was never about hits though, its about albums. a SINGLE is enough.
>it was never about hits though, its about albums. a SINGLE is enough. Right. And the best way to promote the album is a steady supply of singles on the radio/videos on MTV to convince people to go out and buy it.
Carson Jones
that just means you're a zoomer of terrible taste. everyone knew champagne supernova though it wasn't that good.
Elijah Rodriguez
funny how it uploads to youtube at the same time and gets half those hits. Really makes you think about those numbers when spotify is a genre based music service and youtube is direct search. I wonder how many other songs topped those numbers on (((spotify))) too?
Benjamin Bailey
yeah right. you have capeshit written on your bumpy forehead.
Leo Brown
>everyone knew champagne supernova though it wasn't that good Champagne Supernova is literally better than Wonderwall
James Cooper
Nobody outside of of the UK gives a fuck about Oasis, certainly not the zoomers who this is presumably trying to appeal to
Lincoln Anderson
Literally this. Slumdog and Lion only worked because Dev Patel is a phenomenal actor who makes every scene of his watchable.
Justin Perry
brazil is full of subhuman garbage they don't count. and i'm talking about music, oasis were huge since wonderwall and still are played regularly on the radio.
Jack Edwards
>funny how it uploads to youtube at the same time and gets half those hits The video has only been on youtube since 2013. Pretty sure far more people use Spotify for music than youtube these days.
Kayden Brooks
zoom zoom
Nathaniel Jackson
>Oasis Published on Feb 7, 2008
Julian Peterson
How can you not know these songs, especially Champagne Supernova?
Levi Carter
Same. I don't remember hearing any of these on the radio, though I may have heard them in movies. Definitely see the tryhard beatlesboo influence in these videos. Oasis does have a minor significance to my life though, as it was the subject of my first attempt to troll IRL. Some older kid at school was raving about how Oasis ruled, and I with no clue as to who or what Oasis were, shouted at him from across the schoolyard that Oasis sucked. I must have been 7 or 8. So in that respect, and because of Wonderwall, I know who they are.
Charles Collins
>latin america is full of subhuman garbage they don't count fixed
Daniel Lopez
You're fucking dumb as shit son.
Jackson Smith
maybe its because im not a fucking boomer
Grayson Thomas
Oh I see now, there are two Wonderwall videos. One from 2008 and one from 2013.
The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art.
Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all times are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all times. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics are still blinded by commercial success.
The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers. No wonder they will think that the Beatles did anything worthy of being saved.
So do the Beatles come back at the end or what? I think everything needs to come crashing down around him in the end
Levi Torres
Continental European here. Everyone knows Wonderwall, and I think most would recognise Don't Look Back, but Oasis were not that big. Still, the joke described in the OP is pretty obvious, you have to be a braindead American to not get it.
Definitely Maybe and WTSMG are the best Oasis albums, but Be Here Now is the one that summarizes the band, imo. Loud, swagger, loud, drugs, council lads with money
Elijah Sanchez
Bugs Bunny was hot though
Chase Murphy
It's an excuse to have a lot of Beatles songs in a movie without having to bother making a period piece with actors who look like John Lennon and Paul McCartney and going through drama that people are already familiar with It's also a bit of boomer bait in that they get to see young people pretend to be impressed by some pop songs from the 60s and get a good hit of the ol' "Yep, they sure don't make them like they used to" feeling
Jazz isn't mainstream. Everything mainstream is garbage that will never be listened to in 300 years. The only metric for mainstream success will be how many records a song sold worldwide, and even then Oasis will still be a one-hit wonder outside of Lonstanbul.
Juan Williams
Lots of people have had this fantasy with any given band of their choice. The Beatles are well known and generally liked by everyone. People who say they don't like the Beatles or that they're overrated are trite normies not worth engaging with.
Levi Sanders
>even then Oasis will still be a one-hit wonder outside of Lonstanbul. this. Oasis had 0 (zero) songs that ever got played on radio or MTV or anything besides Wonderwall.
Owen Sanchez
>Everything mainstream is garbage that will never be listened to in 300 years. Mozart was mainstream.
Cameron Stewart
I have never heard these songs in my life
The first one is so awful jesus christ how does this go on for 8 minutes
Aiden Martinez
>Also, just because they didn't have as big of an impact as Wonderwall doesn't mean they weren't hits. I said CS's performance was commendable but if we're talking what was a "big hit" in the US, it just doesn't measure up to Wonderwall. That's the song they're remembered for in America.
>You'd be surprised how many people in America know this song actually. But Black Dynamite, I am American. Your point about Modern English is a good one, but consider that I Melt With You is still used all the time in movies/tv as a reference point for the 80s. The same can't be said for Don't Look Back. Put it this way: If The Wedding Singer were remade now and set in the 90s, what Oasis song would they use?
'no'
Luke Robinson
>if you don't like this thing everyone else supposedly likes you're a normie
>they get to see young people pretend to be impressed by some pop songs from the 60s and get a good hit of the ol' "Yep, they sure don't make them like they used to" feeling I wish everyone who posted 'I was born in 20-zoomdy-two and I love [boomer band] more than my generation's music' comments on youtube die violent deaths.
Alexander Adams
A trite normie, specifically.
Alexander Bell
>People who say they don't like the Beatles or that they're overrated are trite normies >people who dont like the beatles are THEMSELVES the normies gonna let you think about that one for a bit
I mean, obviously Wonderwall is their big hit, but Champagne Supernova wasn't that far behind. It actually got more radio airplay across all formats than Wonderwall did in 1996. It still gets very frequent airplay on the radio today (usually on alternative or "We Play What We Want" kind of stations).
I've heard Don't Look Back in Anger on the radio (with less frequency, but still more often than you'd think) and surprisingly, in bars too where people will (drunkenly) sing along to the chorus.
Wonderwall again is just more culturally ubiquitous.
Isaac Cox
these were definitely not hits in america
Lincoln Bennett
>did in 1996 There's the rub. That's over 20 years ago. That means the people old enough to "appreciate" this kind of (((music))) are at minimum in their 40s.
>That's over 20 years ago. That means the people old enough to "appreciate" this kind of (((music))) are at minimum in their 40s. Yeah but it's not like they disappeared off the radio as soon as 1996 ended. Like I said, Champagne Supernova still gets frequent airplay today.
Asher Barnes
Or early/mid thirties.
Christian Brooks
no it wasn't i've never heard of it
David Wood
They covered the song and made it much better. Bruce Springsteen's version is terrible.
Josiah Harris
>airplay today user just give it up already
Luke Diaz
everyone else did.
Lucas Cox
Obviously not given that most people think Oasis is a one hit wonder
Dylan Anderson
Just gonna repeat from the last thread
>people pretending they've never heard of any of this shit
well wonderwall's success is orders of magnitude more than champagne supernova's. dont look back isn't even a blip.
Connor Hughes
I'm here to settle this as an american that goes outside 1. YES americans know about wonderwall--its on alt stations all the time and if it comes on in a bar everyones sings it BUT 2. no one gives a fuck about Oasis, if you mentioned noel gallagher to any one of those people that lover wonderwall they would look at you like you have 2 heads.
They are truly a 1 hit wonder here in america and all that drama about noel and liam and the beatles influencing them/them ripping the beatles off just never made it to america
So yes I could see how people might not completely get the joke but it wouldnt ruin the whole movie for americans. this is just bait from the studio prepping for a horrendous box office bomb
Caleb Adams
i've never heard of any of these songs or this band. I too thought "Oasis" was something made up within the movie universe.
Mason Gonzalez
>its another oasis thread on Yea Forums get over it, they're music's shite, it keeps me up all night
Hudson Adams
I'm an American as well. I've never heard of Oasis and only vaguely know Wonderwall.
Kevin Stewart
>all that drama about noel and liam and the beatles influencing them/them ripping the beatles off just never made it to america It definitely did though. it's just that they were quickly irrelevant
t. avid VH1 and MTV watcher when I was 11
Dylan Robinson
as a band, they're not really a US thing. wonderwall was thrown in countless ads and soundtracks.
Chase Flores
whats the pun here?
David Cooper
Yeah so those songs aren't even hits
Angel Ward
>wonderwall was thrown in countless ads and soundtracks. I don't remember ever hearing it in a commercial or in any movie at all though.
Isaiah Morales
champagne supernova was for a limited time, it's not some sort of classic.
Gabriel Hill
champagne supernova was never a hit fuck off with this nonsense
Ian Martin
I knew it was going to be a flop. As soon as a friend showed it to me, knowing that I am a huge Beatles fan, I saw the trailer and I knew immediately what was wrong.
Context.The Beatles and their discography weren't just some fucking dream some dickhead woke up to. It was a fucking life journey about growing up in a post WW2 world and the introduction of mind altering drugs into the planet's consciousness. I'll pick a random Beatle's song and explain why this movie doesn't work.
Dear Prudence.
The song was written by John and Paul while on a trip to India with friends and family because one of their female friends was too depressed to leave her room and hang out. So they wrote and played the song for her to lift up her spirits.
Why does the MC write Dear Prudence?
BECAUSE WACKY tIMELIne HiJINKS xD WhAT iF yoU wERe thE Only one whO KneW the BEaatles???? xD
We already settled the "Is Oasis a one hit wonder in America" argument a long time ago
Easton Miller
The beatles are only praised because senile boomers liked them
Brayden Rogers
ok yeah it reached us but for england it was a major deal that drove their culture and was an iconic flashpoint in their history, here in america, it was just a story that we were aware of at the time
Also, im assuming a british studio made this film. shouldnt the studio be aware of what stories are important to what culture. similar to if a hollywood studio decided to make a movie about the nfl. woudnt they do their research and understand that the nfl isnt popular abroad and the movie will probably strike out in other markets outside the US?
Cameron Bailey
This is like when they changed Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone to Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone because Americans don't know what philosophers are...
Typical
Jayden Roberts
I remember this song being spammed to death on the radio. Granted I'm in Canada, but I mean.. there's no way this wasn't in the states too.
Carter Torres
i still love british invasion shit, they were great before they were poo-in-loo-aboo and dude weed.
Landon Myers
It can be argued that a band with one monster hit and a bunch of blips that amount to nothing but farts in the wind are one-hit wonders.
Landon Roberts
>
Brody Powell
you'd think so but no
that's what i'm saying. wonderwall was their only hit. nothing else was.
Jason Miller
Are they a bunch of zoomers or something? I was born in 89 and Oasis were on the radio all the time when I was a kid. Sure it was the same 3 songs but to not know who they are is absurd.
Liam Taylor
>When queried, the vast majority of these respondents stated they were totally unfamiliar with the song "Wonderwall", much less the band Oasis itself nani the fuck, this can't be real
Ian Mitchell
Yeah but who in the mainstream praises them for that? All you ever hear is people praising their hippie stoner shit.
Mason Myers
>Sure it was the same 3 songs Nice try dude. But were NOT hits
Ryder Lopez
Except they were literally played on the rock and pop stations I grew up with all the time. Why would I lie about something so innocuous?
Ryan Hill
The problems with the premise are: >every musician alive has fantasized about this scenario and knows it can't work >the poo is literally plagiarizing songs >it's a fucking isekai and therefore trash, also the premise is stolen from a fucking manga
i know who oasis is and it still sounds dumb to me if the movies about the beatles who the fuck wants a subplot about oasis?
Liam Diaz
>It reportedly aroused riotous laughter from audience members young and old I highly, highly, highly doubt this
John White
Nope, NY. Two stations out of Poughkeepsie called WRRV and K104. They played Champagne Supernova, Wonderwall, AND Don't Look Back but that wasn't as big in the rotation. You're free to Google the stations to see they both exist and have my entire life.
Aaron Morales
The problem with the premise is that there is no story, it's just a daydream based around "Wouldn't it be great if I could get respect, fame, and riches beyond my wildest dreams for doing something I already do" and whatever story you put around that is perfunctory to the fantasy wank. The entire selling point of the movie is the idea of the montage you'll get ~30 minutes into it where he starts playing the Beatles songs, everyone sucks his cock and he becomes rich and successful, and none of that translates to an interesting or engaging story
Nolan Garcia
Just because one station played those songs doesn't mean they were hits in America.
Justin Brooks
The joke is that Oasis modelled themselves after the Beatles. No Beatles means no Oasis. Cue laughter. Very few people outside the UK who aren't Oasis fans will make the connection. It is a bit of a stretch how the poo leaps from that to "Well, what happened to the Beatles?"
Sebastian Bell
Good thing I never said anything about them being hits even once then isn't it?
Bentley Howard
Just because they were played on the radio in your area and you know who they were doesn't mean anyone else does
Caleb Peterson
Why is that table not organized wtf
William Collins
I was absentmindedly watching an american cooking show the other day & a black lady unironically asked 'Who is Napoleon?' American schools, everyone.
Jonathan Sullivan
WHAT????
Justin Ward
this is the dumbest comeback in the whole thread. congratulations, go kill yourself.
Charles Russell
The Beatles are cringe as fuck and all boomers should kill themselves.
Jordan Cooper
based
Asher Jackson
want a medal zoomieboi
Austin Nelson
Boat rocked, as in rock music. And boats rock when you fuck on them apparently.
Double entendre.
Gabriel Sanders
>similar to if a hollywood studio decided to make a movie about the nfl.
Oh my God, are you seriously this fucking retarded? There's been countless American football movies that have done well outside of America. The Longest Yard ring a bell? It even had a very successful remake in 2005 that did $190 million worldwide. All your autistic assholes completely fail to understand how well known the Beatles is and how their hits are still catchy. When I was still in high school and they did those giant re-mastered re-releases of their albums it was a giant fucking thing even to my generation, because they were the Beatles and everybody knew them through pop culture osmosis.
James Diaz
shut up
Andrew Cook
What was his last good film ?
James Lee
There is no band more overrated than fucking Oasis
Brayden King
ok after falling? no
Gavin Smith
What's Danny Boyle's thing with Indian people? Is he married to one or something? Not gonna lie, it's kind of weird that this is his Third Pajeet movie.
Isaiah Ramirez
>Jack is about to bomb yet another open mic performance, he decides to bust out a version of Oasis' oft-covered 1995 mega-hit "Wonderwall" - to no avail. Disappointed at the flat response to what is usually a show-saving mass sing-a-long number, Jack walks off stage dejected and blames it on his own lack of talent. Doesn't this break the film's logic yet?
If a random Pajeet playing wonderwall to the masses can't get them riled up, why should playing Beatles songs be any different?
The Beatles is fine music but it couldn't have worked if it weren't a quartet of Manchester boys in the 1960s.
Anyone arguing that americans should be that aware of oasis need to remember we were doing grunge and shit in the nineties
Eli Clark
>Why boomers need to die the post
Caleb Butler
>Doesn't this break the film's logic yet? >If a random Pajeet playing wonderwall to the masses can't get them riled up, why should playing Beatles songs be any different?
Because the movie is about the influence of the Beatles and Wonderwall isn't exactly a giant crowd pleaser if you hear it for the very first time, especially in acoustic, one-man show format.
Wyatt Wilson
>Black
Robert Stewart
That's why I don't buy half this thread. I was born in the 90s and this garbage was not popular, nor the beatles
Fair enough, I've honestly never heard Oasis so I couldn't tell. Still expecting the quality of the Beatles songs to propel someone random to the top of the playlists feels a little presumptuous.
Cameron Walker
Neutral Milk Hotel.
Anthony Peterson
this. I was born in 1997 and I've never heard a single Oasis song. No, not even Wonderwall... I didn't even know "Oasis" was a band until this thread.
Maybe in the past, but with tech the way it is. not anymore. Poor/poop people still rely on old tech tough.
Daniel Wright
>euros probably thought White Castle was a fictional restaurant
Isaiah Hill
Dylan>Beatles Kobain>Oasis Why is America so much better at making rock music than the bongs? I haven't even brought up the boss or beach boys yet.
Carter Perez
What's funny is that because of the absolutely absurd licensing fees associated with the Beatles, there are actually a lot of kids who really don't know anything by them aside from maybe a couple of songs.
They're a fucking dead group, barely remembered because the people in charge are complete jews.
Cameron Jones
>haven't even brought up the boss or beach boys yet. Bruce Springsteen sucks and that movie about him is going to tank at the box office
Noah White
Radiohead
Tyler King
That's cause its a cheap Indian (British) version and not a soulful American setting. Bruce is the embodiment of the American spirit. And box office means nothing marvelfag.
Robert Williams
>shorty British humor
It’s not funny. That’s why it wasn’t used.
Matthew Walker
The Beatles suck and only grew to fame because their music was very fitting for the era it was made in. This movie’s trailer makes me roll my eyes every time I see it in theaters. How am I supposed to believe Baljeet is talented enough to not just remember how every song is EXACTLY supposed to go but also make a multi-singer band’s music sound good?
Ethan Myers
[a fucking] leaf here, also big Oasis fan. won't be seeing film because protagonist is a pajeet.
Aaron Cooper
>t. Garth
David Rivera
based Piero poster
Jeremiah Bailey
Wasn't wonderwall in Lucifer this year?
Tyler Young
>Americans don't have to deal with acoustic guitar carrying arseholes playing wonderwall Sounds like heaven.
Nathan Ramirez
Potentially confused Americans, its Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's [Philosopher's] Stone all over again.
Lucas Cruz
The kind of people Yea Forums makes fun of. i.e. Redditors.
Blake Morris
The Universal request is retarded but Danny Boyle is always pulling cringey shit like this and his scripts leave much to be desired.
Zachary Morales
>google search only brings up Yea Forums What a surprise
Charles Ortiz
The guys that show up at the Corden show are the Gallagher brothers. Noel plays Liam and viceversa
It's pretty routine to redo some scenes for American versus foreign audiences to make sure audiences. Pixar has been doing this an absurd amount in its animated movies, going so far as to switch out the "punishment food" in Inside Out from Broccoli to bell peppers to whatever else depending on the country they're trying to localize their film for.
Nostalgia bait over the Beatles. Thing is ton of people now have no idea what Beatles songs even are due to how old they are now and aren't familiar with jokes related to the band's history. Also the movie is about the fame of a British pop band while starring a Paki which just seems off.
Jackson Fisher
The reason why it's wrong it's that most of the Beatles songs, while pretty good by themselves, would never become monster hits if played acoustically by some hideous pajeet. They're only timeless hits because of their voices, the arrangements, the production, and because the fucking Beatles played them. Imagine some brown manlet playing Tomorrow Never Knows and expecting everyone to be amazed
Aaron Carter
McCartney is behind this. Notice how the guy doesn't play a single Lennon song. It's another attempt to diminish John's role in the band since the damn hippie got killed so he's immortal, while old fart Macca is still desperate to stay relevant playing with Lady Gaga, Kanye or Taylor Swift
Jaxson Perez
FUCKIN SJW. STOP WITH THE INTERRACIAL STUFF. KEKS.
Christopher Jackson
>Taiwanese guy who loves Tupac The initial premise of the "Fresh off the Boat" tv show was the kid's conflict with his Taiwanese-american parents because he loved gangsta rap so much.Later seasons have mostly forgotten about it though.
Jaxon Young
>They're only timeless hits because of their voices, the arrangements, the production, and because the fucking Beatles played them.
Hey Bulldog is the worst Beatles song, prove me wrong or Paul's body double dies in his sleep tonight.
Eli Thomas
Shit cover version >What is Mr Moonlight
Juan Young
I wish that were true, but sadly they exist here as well.
Nathaniel Gray
>Judging by a song's popularity based on singles sales when it primarily played on radio stations aimed at college students who only bought full albums.
Absolutely no one over the age of 12 bought singles in the 90s.
Mason Carter
Oasis sucks, no wonder yanks never bothered with them
Jordan Hall
definietly maybe + what's the story is one of the best runs any band has ever had. I have no idea how noel and liam both managed to fall off so hard at the same time.
Nathaniel Russell
Probably punk would have happened earlier as West Coast garage bands like the Ventures, the Animals, and the Sonics hit it big.
Adrian Nguyen
>this is an American >doesn't know oasis >character in movie has same amount of knowledge as him except characters lack of knowledge is played for laughs >goes to holocaust class
Americans were making some amazing music in the 90s. unfortunately the watered down easy listening version is what ended up making it into the mainstream.
Jordan Nguyen
You get one group of people with one single, and another group of people with the next.
With Weezer's album Pinkerton they rushed out the single for "The Good Life" because the video for El Scorcho sucked and people were changing the radio station when the song came on.
Blake Davis
I can't hear this song without getting a huge burst of nostalgia for The Wonder Years.
Camden Morales
digits
Adrian Brooks
Amanda Palmer made an Oasis reference in a song I liked and I didn't get it, years ago. Never bothered to look it up either.
btw i wonder if this is the first time she's ever been mentioned here
>"needlessly challenging" for American audiences Pure kino.
Jace Perez
literally this Both songs were popular, though Champagne Supernova was clearly the bigger of the two and neither were as big as Wonderwall.
Ian Foster
based fan-fic user
Oliver Cooper
I'm an American, and I know all the songs they reference in the OP, but I don't think I've ever heard that Oasis was highly influenced by the Beatles before today.
Ethan Reyes
>Oasis sucks, no wonder yanks never bothered with them
After Seattle grunge shit like Oasis sounded like last decade's music.
Connor Powell
Not as absurd as Zeppelin, which are punitively high as a matter of principle (only Disney or Porsche seem to go to the trouble), but the biggest problem I have with Beatles royalties is the percentage that goes to Yoko Ono. I have nothing against her kids, but I haven't bought a Beatles song or album in my life because I hate the cunt and am waiting for her to die before one penny of mine ends up in her bank account.
Levi Howard
>I don't think I've ever heard that Oasis was highly influenced by the Beatles before today. Bruh what That was like their whole thing
Jaxson Ward
Kurt Kobain actually grew up listening to The Beatles (however among other artists, of course, with more influence on him).
Reminder that Land Down Under ripped off The Kookaburra Song.
Jaxon Diaz
ok
Andrew Sullivan
He also liked listening to a song called Raping a Slave by Swans, who gives a shit? The Beatles influenced him but clearly it isn't as pronounced as his other influences.
Zachary Morgan
I did.
Chase Baker
I did until four years ago
Brayden Collins
Why does this movie exist?
Ryder Stewart
boomers
Jose Campbell
You're understanding this backwards, implying that Americans are stupid. The reality is that Brit's are stupid bootlickers. Let me explain: Brits react with laughter because it never occurs to them that such a massive deception/conspiracy could ever be real. They live, after all, in a disarmed, dismantled, police state where they are being slowly and obviously genocided, yet they literally notice nothing.
The reaction of the Americans, on the other hand, is due to the fact that we understand just how deep the Jewish deceptions/conspiracies actually go - and thus the moment of confusion is where Americans are trying to figure out whether the Beatles and Oasis (two bands they know) really did exist or not - that is, they're asking "what is this film really asserting? Is this a joke or is it serious?". Brits are too dumb to have any such thoughts. Their minds are literally too small to even consider the idea being presented.
Parker Gray
Boomers already have plenty to choose from as far as Beatles movies go, though.
Samuel Morales
Creative bankruptcy
Owen Morales
>this is the shit Danny Boyle wastes his time on Give me more Sunshine you fucking hack!
Henry Flores
>"My kids also like that bloke, WhatsApp Ricky. You know, the American geezer, stylish, funny, gold teeth. [when told he means A$AP Rocky] Oh yeah, that’s the fella. WhatsApp Ricky. That’s a better fucking name anyway."
Do you realise how many bands are known as one hit wonders in the US but not anywhere else? It's because of your shit radio stations.
Christopher Thomas
The only thing I know about Oasis is a handful of their songs. And they sound a little more prog rock than Beatles pop shit. And I know fuck all about music really. I just know what I like.
Robert Roberts
Why don’t we come up with similar interchangeable movie stories and see what clicks?
>A man wakes up and realizes he’s the only person aware of the mobile phone >A woman wakes up and realizes nobody’s ever heard of The Godfather >A Brazilian teenager wakes up and realizes nobody’s ever heard of Dragon Ball >A French nurse wakes up and realizes nobody’s ever heard of an MRI >An Australian bank robber wakes up and realizes nobody’s ever heard of a digital watch >A Japanese middle-aged housewife wakes up and realizes nobody’s ever heard of The Simpsons
Michael James
So does Liam.
Hudson Wood
>show movie to americans >they don't understand it, scenes get cut Why does this happen so often?
Carson Bennett
I am convinced if this was about a white guy, Yea Forums would be entirely behind it. But because it happens to feature a brown dude, you have to bend over backwards to find ways to dismiss and criticize the movie before it's even out.
Carson Richardson
Personally, I just think the premise is kind of lame and interchangeable with just about any cultural phenomenon.
The backstreet boys is to America as the Beatles are to the UK.
It's disgusting once you think about it.
Ryan Clark
you and you alone are the reason the usa had such a low average iq.
Henry Brooks
'to rock the boat' also means to cause trouble which fits in the story but americunts need everything spelled out for them because they spend more times eating cheeseburgers than watching movies
Leo Morales
did the dog died?
Mason Wood
Yes, the sabre-toothed kangamaroo fell on it.
Nathan Nelson
Would that really make you belly laugh though ? It's just amusing at best
Ayden Ross
Possibly, but it would change the movie dramatically.
Part of what helped propel the Beateles to super stardom was how they were seen as these quintessential English guys and over time they evolved along with the times, regularly representing what was popular in pop culture.
A Paki doesn't typically strike people as quintessential English and it's hard to romanticize English life or English rock culture when it's being represented by someone that doesn't look English.
Angel Nguyen
I dunno if they've got much in common besides having an audience made up entirely of screaming underage girls.
Camden Walker
Yeah and look where that got him
Nolan Jones
The movie is about the power of music, not identity politics, thank you very much.
Kayden Roberts
>you have to bend over backwards to find ways to dismiss
It's got a poonigger as the mc. What's there to bend over backwards to find ways to dismiss it?
Levi Johnson
It sounds more like wish fulfillment, if not outright wank, to me.
Kayden Scott
>GDC The guy was talking out of his ass to a load of people into making phone games that no one cares about.
Brody Garcia
Choosing someone brown was a choice of identity politics.
Angel Lewis
True about the pajeet. It's literally cuckboil desperately wishing browns had more of a part in british creative history.
Daniel Cox
Can't listen to "dont look back in anger" ever since anti-white organisations promoted it hugely following the muslim bombing of children in manchester as a way of getting people to forget about it.
Landon Sullivan
It's boyle so there'll be a overly sentimental side love story (with a white girl) and although his folly for riches will come undone he'll get the girl.
Beautiful. Repeat x1000000 with a paperthin new conceit every time.
Mason Price
huh?
Michael Murphy
Not that the film won't be utter crap but im going to assume he plays it trying to get the crowd to sing along so it flops as they just don't know what he's getting at.
Luis Peterson
A few years ago some arab walked into a concert venue in Manchester as a gig was ending and blew himself up killing dozens of children.
There was then some commemorative gig with the song and a big push for it in the charts, as Oasis were a manchester band. The intended message quite explicitly being "don't be angry about the murder of your children".
Nathan Jackson
I liked Trance
Jaxon Adams
No. Champagne supernova was fucking driven into the ground. They were huge for a while.
Julian Morris
>Raping a Slave Still haven't chewed through all of Swans discography. Looking forward to this gem.
Easton Stewart
there's literately a movie called Gook about this and its great
Ian Morales
I'm sure that has been already said in the thread but, HOW THE FUCK HAS YOU DON'T HEAR WONDERWALL?
It's like if you haven't heard With or Without You from U2.
You just have to turn on the radio a tune to a pop hits station some times and you will heard them repeatedly.
Nolan Powell
Based. GDC is a joke 90% of the time. I even watched a Richard Garfield talk, and the only worthwhile information from that greedy cunt was that "bad things are 3x as bad as good things are good."