Kino or cringe bros

Was it gay or based?

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smells like kino

A bunch of sweaty naked men is gay and clearly there to win lefty points for HBO as it's considered "woke" to cram dicks down the audience's throats these days. But female nudity? Literally rape.

>not sniffing your balls directly

i certainly feel more confident about my penis,having seen this.

Everything is sexual. Especially nudity. This is the modern American mentality.

Was it gay for the Greeks to wrestle in the nude? Could you wrestle another man without blood rushing to your fagrod?

whatever, if they wanna reverse things, i'm ok with getting raped by women.

Plot twist: the miners always get naked while mining regardless of conditions.

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>Was it gay for the Greeks to wrestle in the nude
Uh... yes?

just come out of the closet user your mom will still love you

>Was it gay for the Greeks to wrestle in the nude?
Pretty fucking gay. Modern wrestling is gay as fuck but in the nude you'd literally have some dude's dick touching against your body.

Honestly if you felt uncomfortable watching this scene you're either a closet homo or prudish Amerimutt who thinks nudity is evil.

If I could do that I wouldn't be sniffing my balls

kek

Prudish isn’t an insult you yurocuck degen

Why does the thought of two men engaging in a battle for physical dominance make you feel gay?

Yes, yes it was. The ancient Greeks were as gay as they come. All the guys were homos, and all the girls munched carpets. Everything from historical records, to artwork, to literature to their mythology makes it abundantly clear.

If you asked your friend to wrestle with you and you both got naked and rolled around with each other would that be gay?

The answer is yes.

Better question did this actually happen IRL or was it just added to create more drama by HBO?

I bet you though this sounded very sophisticated and philosophical. But it only comes off as you being a cringey faggot

I think some of them did but it wasn't the entire crew.

When you find out that they weren't actually naked you start to think "gee why did they need to cram in some dicks that weren't actually there?". If it was true to the reality of Chernobyl i'd be on your side.

If this took place in America they would need one of those gay little hats to protect their wieners

how you read that post and fixated on 'prudish' is pretty telling. are you one of the clowns who pee in stalls instead of using urinals?

>Naked miners
>RTD: The miners, summoned from all over Russia, including Tula and Donetsk, dug a tunnel underneath the reactor without any machinery, manually removing hundreds of cubic meters of earth that was then taken to burial sites. There is a very dramatic moment in the series when the miners start working naked. Did that actually happen?

>Tarakanov: Well, no, I mean – I did not see them naked. I'd say the showrunners took it a bit too far. In fact, this entire operation – it was Academician Velikhov's idea – was unnecessary, but still. They thought that the bottom of the reactor was still extremely hot, because the graphite continued burning, and it burns at 800 degrees... That’s why they had to dig a tunnel underneath and place a concrete slab under the reactor. The idea was to use liquid nitrogen to create a cooling effect, like in a fridge. The concept itself was good, and of course it helped. But it was already September by then.

>he's afraid of other mens' penises
Found the dicklet lads

Yup

Why are you afraid to join the wrestling team anons? Do these guys have a lot of gay sex do you think? How many of these guys have girlfriends, versus how many of you?

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>they just had to get some lefty shit in their with that female scientist
In what way was she a detriment to the series?

>Was it gay for the Greeks to wrestle in the nude?
Was is gay for the Greeks to fuck little boys in the butt?

She changed the show from historykino into a leftist weapon created to be wielded against white men.

Did the balls touch?

kek, are you going to explain why?

There is literally nothing homosexual about it.

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>Immediately focuses on the fact that *he* didn't see them naked, then swiftly changes the subject
Someone should ask Tarakanov how Narnia is doing these days. He's so far in the closet he's got to know

they've literally all stuck a thumb up each others butt at least once fact

I would bet a lot that you're american

Her introductory scenes where she's completely dismissive to her coworker, waltzes in to a disaster zone without much issue, and then is suddenly sitting in on a meeting with Gorbachev felt like some strong woman shit, but I think it was actually just poor writing. Her character became more believable after her arrest.

Why are penises so fucking gross? They look like alien appendages.

>made up smartypants lady shows up to blame dumb men for being dumb and ruining things
FUCK WOMEN AND FUCK AM I LONELY

Undercutting the accomplishments of real life WHITES in order to push some dishonest girl power agenda? You don't need that explained.

>being THIS possessed by SJW cultural war
holy fucking shit you're a lost cause lel

They're slavs you retard.

sounds like you're a closet homosexual or something. your mind immediately went there. the naked body isn't inherently sexual. do you take a shower with your clothes on?

She was badly written but you are retarded.

but are hot ask fuck on traps, weird

pleb and liar

Well either we stop them or they come and kill me and my family. It's impssoble to take a threat like that too seriously, They send foreign invaders to my land. They're wailing in evil tounges silhouetted before the blod red sky as we speak.

>show literally gives the viewer on the platter the right-wing male archetype (strong, masucline, capable of ultimate self-sacrifice for the sake of honor, duty and well being of the nation - but still maintaining a strong sense of individual authority)

>closeted /pol/tards still seethe about xyz being "leftist"

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>Eastern Europeans
>White
Whoo boy. I'd say "Have sex", but maybe "Bend over" would be more appropriate in your case.

Her character is an amalgamation of many of the different Eastern Block and Russian scientists who helped out the effort, many of whom where female IRL.

ask your grandpa

She added a good dynamic, having the show be one giant sausage fest gets monotonous.

Does it haha show alot of wieners in this scene?

She barely ended up accomplishing anything
Dyatlov was the hero in the end, and he even had to save her ass
They also specifically had an entire slide explaining that she was fictional and showed the dozens of real scientists that actually did what her character was written to do
You delusional faggots are worse than tumblr at this point

Unironically whiter and less degenerate than modern USA, UK or Germany. Yea they're bunch of suicidal, depressed alcoholics who were raped by oligarchs and foreign powers for last 400 years but at least I don't see them betraying their own nation and praising nigger culture or immigration to virtue signal on Internet.

This
Also eventhough it's unclear if they god nude or not, nude miners did for hundreds of years.

>many
LYING LEFTIST

>dicks
>looking gross
Are you a fag? Dicks look 1000% better then pussies it's not even funny

Anons, is it gay to look at yourself in the mirror? How will you escape?

you have weird hang ups, my guy

This. She was still a bad character. All incelism aside.

He said the balls sneed

but Legasov does the exact same thing, except he does it in front of the most powerful people in the soviet union
I honestly don't know how many female scientists were involved in the soviet union so you may be right on that point

It's funny because they show the real miners in the end and they were literally wearing anti-radiation suits.

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Found the gay

Time and place for everything, retard You can't cry wolf at everything you don't like. You sound like a bitch.

To be honest I am gay for myself.

I wish there was more male nudity in TV/movies

No they don't. They hang there like a fucking slug, like they were added at the last minute. Not to mention testicles looking ridiculous. Those organs should not be outside the body.

Also you are literally gay.

Fag

great but overrated.

It really was great but the script/dialogue was sub-par and the accents were shit.

One minute you have a character speaking in a bad british accent, the next minute they have bad anglo-russian accent.

but the shit dialogue and occasional ham acting highlighted the fact that Renck was new to making decent kino for adults

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>leftists force women into everything
>b-but the Soviets totally didnt promote female academics
You are seething and retarded.

oh SNAP!

Pussies look fucking perfect when they're not spread. A woman just standing around naked is literal perfection.

>except he does it in front of the most powerful people in the soviet union
and if you watch the scene you can see him trying to build up the courage to do it, it's well acted and shows a man who knows what he's doing and the possible consequences of doing it. Right after his outburst he sits straight back down and almost curls up, like some kid calling his teacher retarded and expecting the cane. On the other hand her scenes are usually her talking over whoever's there like their status is invisible, it feels poorly done.

Read a book. They took off their cloth. It's not clear how far they went.

I just don't like looking at man ass.

All jokes aside, deciding to film a bunch of naked sweaty dudes for this scene was pretty tone deaf and gay. HBO obviously just needed to fill their nudity quota for the week.

ITT more repressed homosexuality than anything on /lgbt/ or /fa/.

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You obviously never met a miner. Let alone a russian Patriot miner. They wanted to underline how far those guys went to get shit done.

then don't. theres lots more happening in that scene than counting the beads of sweat rolling down those toned cheeks

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>If you don't like seeing spiders it means you want to fuck them!

How do you even watch TV? Are your pupils the size of a pin head? Do your eyes dart around like a tweaker?

google.com/amp/s/www.psypost.org/2017/06/straight-mens-physiological-stress-response-seeing-two-men-kissing-seeing-maggots-49217/amp

you can focus your sight on every part of a 50in TV? silly poster

>men constantly REEEEEEEEing at feminists for wanting less naked or sexualized women in media
>then act exactly the same as feminists when it comes to naked men

Why are males so full of shit?

I tuned in to see real life kino and scary radiation shit, I did NOT watch Chernobyl to look at naked men. This show was good until this episode but there's nothing I'd rather look at less than NAKED MEN.

It's not the same. Straight men hate seeing naked men because that's gay. Women don't like seeing other woman only because they claim it """"oppresses""" them, which is bullshit.

Look at this and tell me it's not terrifying
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No, it's also because it makes them uncomfortable, you fucking idiot. Admit you're a hypocrite and move on.

U gay bruh

no u gay

There's man ass on two thirds of the screen if you didn't notice. And you don't have peripheral vision?

sure but don't fixate on it and it's a blur

Also, I can see most of my 60" because I don't have it in a tiny ass room.

>not mentioning /fit/
fucking DYEL

Do you extend this kind of sympathy towards women who complain of seeing naked women thrown in needlessly in most media?

Some drama queens in this thread, look I hate seeing naked nudes as much as the next straight guy but this show was fucking kino so I just closed my eyes and waited for this part to be over and then enjoyed the rest of the show.

It happened though

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A woman could have her head slowly crushed in a vice right in front of me and I wouldn't extend her any kind of sympathy. You know why?

Because FUCK WOMEN.

i was going to but was too lazy sorry senpai

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This isn't gonna link to pedoshit, is it?

>sympathy towards women
Lol, go be a pussy whipped westcuck somewhere else.

Nah, it was pretty much perfect. Kys.

Easy brah we're all gonna make it

>being so cruel to your own mother

Kill yourself.

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Devil trips confirm. Best show of 2019. Fuck your GoT garbage.

cringe and gay

So you admit males are hypocritical shits? Good.

>show based in historical facts
>throw that out for womemes

Let me guess. You got rejected ONCE for being an ugly antisocial loser? Lmao, get in line faggot.

what a faggot hahaha

unironically you need to have sex

Full on cringe. Fags in this thread going OH IT'S NOT GAY IT'S JUST GOOD OLD MASCULINITY are in denial.
This is gay as shit, and it's meant to be eye candy for the woman viewers. The average man in the Soviet Union in the 80s would not have been as built as that, I assure you. These guys are literally there to be shlick fuel for women watching HBO.

Literally get laid, lmao

The world doesn't stop being cruel towards incels like me so I will be equally UNCOMPROMIZING in my cruelty towards all who wrong me.

>it's meant to be eye candy for the woman view

Doesn't feel so good when the shoe is on the other foot, does it?

5/10 bait. Seem MUCH better by FAR less capable anons, at least in terms of structure and wording.
I don't normally say this unironically, but I think the world could appreciate a casualty in you.

Stop lying. They are conflicting reports on a lot of shit from chernobyl. Including this. Faggot.

Your mother did nothing but love you, you monster.

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>Eye candy
>Fat dudes with 2-3 inch flacid dongs shoveling

Women would rather see naked chicks at that point.

Was it a power move?

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I agree, felt like a pretty r*ddit moment to me

What a fucking retard. I've actively made it a point to be kind to anyone, ESPECIALLY losers like you, and have shared my own resources, be it monetary or mental, just so I could make the world a fraction better than it normally would be.
And you say this shit and effectively spit in my face?
Fuck you. You wouldn't know hardship if it were staring at you in the eyes.

No, a power move would be if he walked up to them and grew a 9 inch stiffy

I opened wide

Always. Also, this is peak physical state, whether you'd like to admit it or not.

>The average man in the Soviet Union in the 80s would not have been as built as that, I assure you. These guys are literally there to be shlick fuel for women watching HBO.
You're onto something there. You can just imagine the redditor roastie types who watch this shit getting wet over their masculinity and then looking over to their nu-male boyfriends and cringing inside. Except it doesn't stop there. Notice how when we see the miners they're covered in coal or dirt? The colour of their skin darkened.
Well it doesn't take a tinfoil had to see HBO trying to draw the connection between the black skin and the desirable masculinity. They shove this cuckold shit into their shows whenever possible.

so which fucking is it?

i love how HBO makes them all oily manly men, but when they show the actual miners in the end credit segment, they looked like malnourished worms toiling away. Typical kike propaganda

Built? He was a stocky dwarven-looking motherfucker
Yea Forums is full of such unbelievably sensitive fags, this scene and all the scenes with the head miner were supposed to be comic relief at how little of a fuck he gave and be the exemplary tough Russian worker man
You guys are completely incapable of picking up on even the most rudimentary elements of storytelling, read a goddamn book niggers

Looks like your average steel manufacturing facility to me!!!FACT!!!

You’re onto something there

This thread made me gay.

>mental delusion: the post
Also, the absolute state of you Americucks, to be so intimidated by a regular male body.

king k rool lookin' ass

>Was it gay for the Greeks to wrestle in the nude?

GREEK INVENTED FAGGOTRY!!! THERE WAS LITERALLY NO HOMOSEXUALITY BEFORE THE GREEK PIONEERED BUTT-FUCKING AND COCK SUCKING WHICH HETEROSEXUALS STOLE AND CLAIMED AS THEIR OWN IN A DISGUSTING DISPLAY OF CULTURAL APPRORIATION!!! GIVE FAGGOTRY BACK TO GREECE!!!FACT!!!

>Why does the thought of two men engaging in a battle for physical dominance make you feel gay?

Swinging swords at each other.

Hetero.

Swinging pork swords at each other.

Gay.

!!!FACT!!!

Your "kindness" is rejected because you are disingenuous. Claiming to be nice to people while considering them to be fucking losers. I can smell the insincerity a mile away.

>Even this show about strong white men taking charge of a situation is actually about cuckolding black bulls
This board needs to be deleted
This is actual, legitimate mental illness at this point

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All men are gay desu, you hate women, are obsessed with cocks, and cannot live without sports that involve giant men ramming into each other, there's nothing gayer than that.

ITT: Anons who are unfamiliar with the context of the scene.
These people were practically dying of heat and dehydration. They're not gonna wear sweaters just so you can rest easy at night, knowing that you didn't witness some "gay" shit.

Your words hold no weight, because you're not human. So throw whatever philosophically perceptive bullshit you want at me.
You're lower than those losers either way.

have sex

Wahhh wahh wahhh.

JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE NAKED IN THE SCENE DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THEIR DICKS.

Just shoot them from their top half or have some mining equipment cover the dicks. Austin Powers figured this shit out 20 years ago.

>Could you wrestle another man without blood rushing to your fagrod?
probably not but that doesn't mean im gay

Keep up the good work, user, the world needs more people like you :3

Why are you so afraid of seeing dicks? Haven't you watched a single porn video in your life?
And these men weren't even erect, nor was there anything sexually suggestive in the scene.
You're literally delusional, and possibly a closet homo. I'm glad they didn't put you in charge of this show. God knows what dishonest, unrealistic piece of garbage you would've made.

Did nobody wear underwear in Ukraine? I can understand taking pants and shirts off, but that extra layer of cotton around your cock&balls isn't going to make much of a difference if you're overheating. It's almost as if this scene is made up.

If you actually watch the scene some are still wearing underwear in the backround.

If you look at or touch your own dick, you're gay.

>homo shit is now honest
>normality is dishonest
Dilate.

>Claiming to be nice to people while considering them to be fucking losers. I can smell the insincerity a mile away.

Can you smell that off your parents when you visit them?!?FACT!!!

I'll keep it up with a twist from now on. Only those who are at least somewhat receptive and willing to be helped will be aided.
The rest can go burn in Hell. You have no idea how tiresome it can be to try and help people whose every atom restlessly refuses your aid.

small dicks lmao

Anons here wouldn't be complaining about muh realism if they threw in a scene of Ignatenko's wife getting fully naked and fucking her rotting husband. Or if any of the nurses just strutted around naked while in the hospital.

How is it homo you fucking retard? Did they have an orgy or something? Jesus Christ.
You MUST be closeted or something, if that's the first thing that came to your mind. Seek fucking help, you faggot.

wow a penis and some ass, how scary and offensive. cover your eyes!

It's comic relief you unbelievable fucking autist
You're supposed to laugh and realize the miner chief is a hardass russkie who doesn't give a fuck
I will never understand the need to go throw a whiny shitfit about this kind of thing

>fagrod

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What pisses me off is that the show was genuinely done good, for modern standards, and people still try to find some "subliminal" messaging, political correctness, brainwash, etc.
It's literally what happened in real life you cucks.

Oh yes, you're relaxing after a hard day's work with an acclaimed TV show about a real life tragedy and they decide to add some levity by putting a bunch of dicks in your face. HA HA HA HA SO HILARIOUS AND NECESSARY. It's not some Adam Sandler movie. Why do they need jokes at all and why do those jokes have to be look at these naked fat men all hot and sweaty with each other??!?!?

At least 90 percent are completely nude. Believe me, I did the math, I ran the numbers, I watched this scene over and over.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_love

this scene never happened, there are recent interviews with liquidators who are still alive and they got shown fragments of the show, this scene in particular never happened, it was hot and some might have stripped down to underwear but no one was walking around naked

>watch show about communism
>surprised at homoeroticism

>TH-THAT'S NOT FUNNY, IT'S A SERIOUS THING
Did you not think it was funny when he stole Dyatlov's cigarettes either? Jesus, you sound like a teenage girl

It was meant to show the severity of the situation. At the end of the day it's a tv show, of course there will be some elements that are hyperbolized.
But why would they need to inject gay messages into it all. This is fucking Russia in the 80's. Try being gay then. Matter fact, try being gay now, kek.
You're reading too much into it.

>women complain about all the rape in GOT and how it makes them uncomfortable, pointing out that it's even filmed in a way that's meant to be hot for male viewers
>LOL FUCKING ROASTIES THAT'S HOW THINGS WERE BACK THEN IT'S REALISTIC DEAL WITH IT YOU WHINY CUNTS
>Chernobyl features a short scene of naked men, something that happened in real life
>REEEEEEEEE FUCK THIS LIBKEK AGENDA I DON'T WANT TO SEE A PENIS FUCK THIS GAY SHOW

Men were a mistake.

>ctrl+f "small"
>only one result

what the fuck went wrong with this board?

Actually you are wrong as well. There was nothing comedic about the scene at all, and nothing sexually suggestive.
I can't comprehend how it's possible for you to be such morons, and I view myself as a brainlet most of the time.

>Comparing men complaining about full nudity with a dick dangling onscreen with women in a modest bikini
Stop embarrasing yourself user.

The women are dishonest about it though. Newsflash virgin, all women are turned on by rape.

what's the average size then?

>making fun of soft weenie sizes
shoo back to tumblr

>all
Consider getting that word out of your vocabulary for good. There isn't a single thing you can apply it to, as far as the human psyche and it's complexity is concerned.

>implying women don't complain about full on female nudity, of which there is fucking plenty in most media

Reach harder, hypocrite.

cope you dicklet

asdfafda

ALL of you dilating trannies should KILL yourselves.

Throwing a bunch of naked men in your show out of nowhere is not what I would call "subliminal".
If anything it was pretty blatant what they were trying to do.

>There was nothing comedic
It was hilarious
He demanded a fan, the authorities refused, and his response was "Oh yeah? Why don't you watch our cocks swing all day then?"
Dyatlov and Boris not knowing how to react was also funny as shit
Bunch of whiny little girls on this board desperate to claim victimhood for no reason

Well newsflash, gaylord, all men secretly love and are obsessed with cock.

If any guy took their clothes off near me and it wasn't an appropriate environment like a gym changing room (I use the private cubical) then I'd grab my conceal carry and end their life where they stand,

Careful not to strain a chromosome kid.
There wasn't anything sexually suggestive in that scene, and if that's all you could take from it, you might be a closeted homo.
If there was anything comical about it, it was definitely in the back seat. As funny as their banter may seem to you, those men were desperate to cool down, so they did the only thing that was left to do.
>Bunch of whiny little girls on this board desperate to claim victimhood for no reason
True. Reminds me of another similar demographic that resides on tumblr.

>Not open carry
Looks like the gay has already spread

imagine being a poster with this much brain damage.

The miner chief seemed pretty bantery in every major scene he was in. He mouthed off to the bureaucrat at the coal mine, stole Dyatlov's cigs, then thumbed his nose at the authorities again by literally swinging all of their cocks at them and daring them to do something about it
Desperation is involved too but there's no reason at all to not see him as a funny character

That's because his character was your everyman, honest hard worker, or proletarian or whatever else stereotype you wanna call him. Of course they'll make him "relatable" and likable.
But I meant that the scene in question, while somewhat comedic in nature, was still serious at it's core. This isn't some cheap quip to get a few laughs out of a capeshit audience.

Then I think we agree, miner chief was the gruff cheeky Russian everyman
I just genuinely don't understand the whinging "ohhhhh penises ohhhh my god" horseshit going in this thread

>You ever been in a cockpit before, Joey?
> Do you like movies about gladiators?
>Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish Prison?

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The woman didn't exactly seem to fit into the story as well as all the other characters, but not once during the "it's getting hot in here" scene did I ever think about fags. Not once in the entire show did I think about fags. You know how damn rare that is for a show in 2019?

That's /pol/ drones in work. The biggest irony is that there's clear political subliminal messaging in other shows and movies, and yet it doesn't get covered.
Chernobyl became popular so people suddenly had to grasp at straws to complain about something. Paranoia is a hell of a drug.

Nothing wrong with that, especially when the alternative is being impaled to the ceiling by a control rod going through your groin.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SL-1

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>and yet it doesn't get covered
/pol/ covers it in their own board 99% of the time
If they were to attempt to discuss such things here they would be told to fuck off back to /pol/, they would be banned, and the thread would be deleted.

>If they were to attempt to discuss such things here they would be told to fuck off back to /pol/, they would be banned, and the thread would be deleted.
You must live on Bizzaro Yea Forums, lmao. And anyways, I don't mind reasonable /pol/acks, and they can absolutely make sense, but what you're seeing here is pure retardation.
So many things to complain about, and you cry that a show featured a couple of naked men, who would've otherwise passed out from the heat.

What the fuck are you talking about? No thread on this board can go with ten replies before a discussion of Jews, feminism, or black cocks derails it
You want more talk about cuckolding and race-mixing on Yea Forums?

They're all flaccid, so it's impossible to say. But my guess is these men went on to grow mutated blood engorged cocks the likes not even God has seen.

This 2016 really did a number on people, but especially this site.
As gay and defeatist as it may sound, why can't we all just "get along" and discuss movies instead of throwing around buzzwords and arguing about m-muh politics.
I'd be surprised is a single person here dilated or had sex because they were told by some autist on a chinese baking forum.

>all these mad reddiors
you hit a nerve

>Nothing proves me right quite like a dozen people calling me a retarded faggot

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god tier shitposting, finally something good from /pol/

shit thread. came for based /rbmk/ posting and found gays arguing about penises