Considering Supernatural is CW's cash cow series, what happens when they start running low on money? Hell I suspect they've wanted it ended for a long time, but they need the money.
Considering Supernatural is CW's cash cow series, what happens when they start running low on money...
Ryan Wood
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Evan Foster
PEDOwitz should have realized that when he greenlit Legacies over the spinoff of Supernatural. Seriously what the fuck happened with that decision? PEDOwitz cited the Originals' "strong ratings" as the reason, when its ratings were HALF of Supernatural's. Meanwhile, to date, Supernatural
>is the 2nd most viewed CW show
>is top 8 most streamed show in Netflix US
>also still very popular among torrenting hosts
Wayward Sisters had a year's worth of media hype, backdoor pilot had good ratings, and warm critical reviews but it got dropped in favor of Legacies' rough draft the last minute? There's no way the decision was based on objective numbers. Look at Legacies' ratings. The only reason it averaged 0.3+ demo was because it was being led by Supernatural. Without that boost, it would have fared on par or worse than nu Charmed
Ian Perez
In any case, CW's going to take a huge nosedive in views after Supernatural ends. Its easily drawing more viewers than they normally have.
Angel Lewis
The DC stuff might keep them afloat for awhile. Unless they're burning cash on the licenses, which is entirely possible.
Luke Richardson
>CW's going to take a huge nosedive in views after Supernatural ends
Yep. And see what the dumbfuck had to say about it
>vanityfair.com
>“Bring It On”: CW Boss Mark Pedowitz Stares Down an Uncertain Future
The young-adult-oriented network is saying goodbye to Supernatural, Arrow, Jane the Virgin, and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. Still, Pedowitz is confident: “I feel we are incredibly stable in a not-stable world.”
Why? Probably because he's ordering the other CW shows to be more like Supernatural
>bleedingcool.com
>Perhaps as a way of shaving off a bit of that Chilling Adventures of Sabrina vibe (a loose spinoff of CW‘s Riverdale, ironically enough), CW president Mark Pedowitz revealed to The Hollywood Reporter that their Nancy Drew adaptation will dabble in the “dark arts”: “We’re happy with Nancy Drew, which will have a supernatural twist to it”
and
>digitalspy.com
>According to The Hollywood Reporter, it comes as the series changes creative direction and leans harder into the supernatural storylines rather than the family dynamic of the first season.
He may say the network is ready, but you can tell with the changes in their other shows that they are scrambling to retain the viewership Supernatural had. But they don't understand that a lot of the fans have brand loyalty. Supernatural EARNED its popularity. Legacies, a spinoff of the Originals, was a spinoff of the Vampire Diaries. While TVD may have been successful, TO was already dying and whimpering in its 5th season ratings-wise. Legacies is undeserved. PEDOwitz further added salt to the wound by making Supernatural lead Legacies in, and that basically means a lot of Supernatural fans won't be touching Legacies with a 10ft pole
Brayden Reyes
To be honest CW needs fresh blood. Supernatural has far outlived itself at this point and just needs to move on to something else. Fuck, I'd be happy with a reboot series. They tried to do a "spinoff" with sister characters, but forgot that the audience who liked Supernatural are mostly yaoi obsessed fangirls.
Ryan King
fucking hell the first migrant to the new thread is the Loose-fer fag?
Zachary Rodriguez
have sex
Zachary Wright
>roastie is loose for looseifer
checks out
Easton Harris
Austin Gonzalez
moving on, I might check out The Lost Boys series the CW is set to release in 2020(?) but frankly, I have very little hopes. I'd rather they crash and burn.
Alexander Hill
Pedowitz
Heh
Sebastian Cruz
>moving on
holy shit you're so tilted
Dominic Mitchell
as always, thank you based webmizer
Kevin Bennett
There's no way there won't be a supernatural spinoff. I just don't think they decided what they want to do. Jack could easily be setup as a spinoff character this season
It's not really accurate to call Legacies a spinoff of TO but not TVD. Hope is a TO character but the twins and Alaric are very much original TVD
Thomas Butler
>WAAAAAAWAAAAAAA
>Because Supernatural is ending I hope CW crashes and burns!
Holy shit. Supernatural fans are legit autistic
Mason Howard
Id this 2014? Are we bringing tilted back?
Anthony Gutierrez
>Jack could easily be setup as a spinoff character this season
I thought of that before the season 14 finale, but it might be a bit questionable now. I suppose it would depend on how 15 wraps the story up because you can't get any bigger than God being the final villain to your series.
>It's not really accurate to call Legacies a spinoff of TO but not TVD
Transitive property, yes. I'm pointing out the order of the shows of the same franchise and the decline of its ratings and how the decision to greenlight another show based on one that's already dying is a weird one when they have a SOLID TRIED-AND-TESTED show that's ripe for a spinoff in a time where every fucking show has spinoffs and crossovers. The Walking Dead is getting a SECOND spinoff, but at least we know it's because the parent show is still relatively strong compared to many other shows. What was the logic behind Legacies?
Noah Carter
one thing I'll say about the Grimmfag, at least he had good banter
Parker Rodriguez
not really but at least he tries
Parker Robinson
CW is in decline. They are owned by CBS, which is also in great decline. How long until the Mouse will annex them?
Elijah Murphy
>what is the logic behind legacies
Because it basically is a vampire diaries spinoff. It's set in the original town and focusing heavily on one of the long time original protags. 1 character has any real ties to The Originals and as far as I know Vampire Diaries ended on a decent note.
Owen Peterson
And the WB, no? Which I suppose is the main driving force for their TV-DCEU. How many capeshit do they have now? Batgirl is starting right? Is there enough hype?
Sebastian Gray
Just kiss already
Connor Myers
I wanna know what Jared & Jensen (not misha hes a fag) will do after S15's end
>Age starting to hit their looks
>Will never get out of the Supernatural role, will be called Dean and Sam by accident irl
>Jensen has a brewery to fall back on
>Jared has his chad 193cm height
Id like to see them actually take a role that puts them in a grittier show/setting. Supernatural is lame due to the violence being toned down & no swearing
>See Vampire
>Ahhh help me" & scream
>Not "WERBLEGERBLE what the fuck is that"
Justin Nelson
They decided to end the show to spend time with their kids so probably wont see anything from them other than small roles for a bit
Josiah Nguyen
Is Disney-X-men testing the waters?
Kevin Clark
>The mouse
Logan Brown
that would only work if it was comic cyclops not whats been trotted out on screen for the last 15 years
Logan Brown
WB is in the rise, yes. Wonder if they cut down the dying branches.
Cooper Jackson
I mean maybe if this helps break the typecasting yeah why not? Jensen has great acting chops, he can do a good job of it. Jared could probably be Gambit as the other user in that thread pointed out. I outgrew liking cyclops though but ah well
Xavier Perry
problem with playing him is your eyes are constantly covered, which fucks with all actors, even if the visors off he ha to keep his eyes closed, so its a tough role even if he's playing proper leader scott
Samuel Mitchell
Ya good point. Especially since eyes convey good emotion
Jace Jackson
exactly a big guy mask is easier to work with then covering the eyes, i'd say thats probably the most difficult, I mean he can wear red sunnies but its still the same basic problem, its tough to emote properly. I would say if I was making it i'd go kinda the same route as the films and make it so only jean could repress his eye cannons and so when he's with her he can open his eyes
Jayden Turner
Yeah wasnt there a comic scene about that. He could always negotiate for a scene without shades
Jose Sanchez
theres a few, again just inventing shit here but you could have a bit in this imaginary show where he meets emma frost and she can also suppress the concussive eyes, going for the bad girl shit;, maybe some device in the mansion does the same so theirs a room scott can go to and see like normal, idk
Joseph Wood
The Lost Boys movie was kino. I doubt it will translate well to a TV series
Anthony Sullivan
#FreeAdam
Noah James
Ya. Still depends if Jensen and Jared want to jump on another gig right away though since they want to be with their families
Cameron Rodriguez
Charles Powell
yea this is imaginary, they'll retire at least semi retire, I would
Nicholas Smith
who?
Henry Morales
Jose Torres
bout to leave. surely the thread's dying soon
Connor Moore
just happy all the lads are back, plus some shill spammers, but w/e why not we've got a few months to go till the end.
Bentley Hill
based, is this from the Hollywood Babylon?
Christopher Thompson
maybe
Elijah Barnes
Aww that’s sweet
Hudson Williams
fgt
Jace Torres
From the looks of it I just saved your thread from page 9
Ian Roberts
bump.
Caleb Gomez
Hello lad
Colton Kelly
Digits of truth
Joshua Perry
eh, spn is forever, grimmfag
Matthew Foster
I know. Your mistake is thinking I don’t like Supernatural
Carter Brown
no your mistake is thinking your literal faggotry will ever get anyone interested in grimm
Xavier Rogers
We could have been bros
Michael Peterson
Checked and kekked
Cameron Gutierrez
but we are, you're just a bitch
Logan Davis
Okay can i call you jerk?
Jaxson Garcia
I thought they were owned by WB since they keep getting the DC shows? Also I'm shocked DC never considered them for capeshit. It's easy buzz with a built in audience plus I imagine it would make a lot of their former channel costars seethe.
Camden Scott
It’s joint ownership
Leo Murphy
why not
Michael Allen
ngl if we have to tolerate one shitposter I’d rather the grimmfag
Jeremiah Powell
sure he's got tenure, even if he's a clueless fag
Juan Martin
Considered who? Jensen and Jared?
Joshua Gutierrez
Yeah
Nicholas Nguyen
Good trips
John Hernandez
>thread still alive
impressive
Cooper Barnes
got tons of errands today but i'll try to keep this up. Should we write another episode of Supernatural?
>New Orleans, Mardi Gras, 2020. 19:45
James Howard
>a loud parade passes by
Jaxson Rodriguez
everything new is doomed to be a leftist propaganda/sjw virtue signaling fest.
i tried watching the new roswell and the very first scene was literally a fuck drumph screed. DROPPED
Joseph Stewart
This is unfortunately true. I dont want politics in my show unless it’s non-partisan/universal enough to be relatable. I’ve tried half a dozen new shows and the narrative suffers due to hamfisted political issues
Landon Torres
i can't believe you nerds kept the supernatural thread going all night. impressive. looks like it's finally dead now.
Juan Smith
They'll do a reboot.
Dominic Parker
>3 new posters
>dead
Anthony Thompson
They wont be so brazen to do it immediately
Christopher Johnson
Case in point
Sebastian Rodriguez
I helped
Jackson Cruz
Good job, Grimmfag
Jaxon Reyes
Reminder that Vampire Diaries is max cringe. Its basically a chick flick.
Luis Price
deanna and her half sister samiqua battle the evils of patriarchy
Jason Cruz
delete this
Aaron Richardson
How is this still going?
I remember being a kid in school getting in trouble for saying that it sounds stupid, out loud when a girl was doing a presentation on it for some reason.
I have a house/ wife and kids now.
>tfw
Owen Barnes
>I have a house/ wife and kids now
i've a house, wrecked my car (TRUCKED), will get married in a little over a month kek. Supernatural is life
Gavin Hernandez
taking my dog for grooming, lads. what's your favoriote dog-centric episode?
>the familiar dog episode
>dog dean afternoon
>scooby doo
Camden Hall
scooby doo asides from that cringe line at the end
Mason Mitchell
it is, which is sad because it had potential. the last 1/2 of season one was good, but then it went back to soap opera tier shit for the rest of the series
Jason Moore
pic related
Nolan Allen
plebs
Cooper Jenkins
>nu-Charmed got renewed with 0.3
Yeah no agenda here
Let CW burn
Jonathan Martinez
I forgot about this arc WITH GOOD REASON
Kevin Wood
additionally i think being in the 8pm slot the last few years has hurt the ratings for supernatural a little.
Connor Phillips
Scoobynatural is my vote I just used a different webm
Yeh clearly their entire line up sucks but they renew shit anyway
Jaxson Sanders
>tfw 111 days until the next new episode
Charles Foster
Probably but it just highlights how strong the show is and how dumb it was to pass on the spinoff
Gabriel Perez
deAN, i hit a dog!!1!
Jayden Young
We should perform a spell to speed up the process once SPN ends
Zachary Garcia
>ywn have a chad squad
Xavier Nguyen
Dean is the biological father of Ben.
Christopher Brown
I thought it was a meme but Misha & Alex look so alike
Liam Perry
To be fair to CW supernatural is their golden goose, they even had a chance to have the daughter of the golden goose but aborted it at the last minute to instead to do Legacies.
It'll be the first time the channel hasn't had a real winner since Angel was cancelled in a dick measuring contest with Joss Whedon over the newly born CW
Gavin Edwards
So will the 4 horsemen make a grand reappearance in the final season?
Colton Gray
Great casting. Just like young Sam and young Dean
Nicholas Lewis
That user was trolling and shitposting since the previous thread because no one will see the show it’s trying to shill so desperately
Lucas Williams
hopefully that kid isn't a faglord like misha irl
Thomas Morris
What are they looking at?
Dominic Collins
Hopefully yes
Matthew Taylor
How are they earning with these 0.3 demo shows? Aren’t these new shows? Shouldn’t they be carrying the network due to all the promotion and the ability to pique interest in new viewers?
Justin Evans
Hello, bros. I’m back. I brought a friend. Can we join the chad squad?
Jacob Jenkins
Chase Scott
Beta virgincels
Brandon Walker
No
Aiden Barnes
What do we need to do to get in? We fight monsters too
Brody Evans
Do you have redhead hotties?
Luis Phillips
Yes!
Aiden Jenkins
With all the Allison Mack sex cult stuff that's been in the new recently, I've started re-watching Smallville.
Gotta say S1 is gay monster of the week shit but it's less cringe than Buffy was. Might be worth a look when Supernatural ends and the void it left in your soul makes you seriously consider jumping under a train
Dylan Turner
raising this thread from perdition
Jackson Richardson
Fucking hell what is that thing
Based
Carson Sanchez
tfw
Jose King
youtube.com
I miss when Cas could teleport.
I miss when angels were cool and not just mook-tier demons+
Wyatt Wood
It has its moments honestly just pay attention to the waifus and the memes and everything will fall into place. alicia was and always will be best girl
Cooper Carter
Alicia is the ultimate pleb filter.
>le pretty blonde in a show where a pretty blonde is already a main character
Blake Rivera
>Knight of Hell can only be defeated by the First Blade and an entire season of Mark of Cain shite
>Princes of Hell were killed by the Colt, Jack and fucking Gabriel
Supernatural is fucked up
Austin Mitchell
dean was legit afraid of him in season 4 and 5. now cas is their bitchboy. i remember back when cas used to tell dean to show him some respect and he did. now he rips on cas constantly
Mason Morris
Misha wanted to be pone of the boys so badly he let them rape his character to bits
Hunter Torres
for me? its deans jackets that im after
>ordered gap blue utility jacket
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>ordered m65 black jacket
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>ordered carhartt mens black shirt and blue jacket
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David Long
There's a big problem when some random lady shows up for 3 episodes and without equal btfo every other romantic interest in the whole show.
Ryan Scott
I honestly preferred Smallville when it was Clark just doing Clark things in Smallville, ironically it got worse the more superhero and villains it introduced. Still a fun show.
Aiden White
What a fucking slag
Cameron Butler
I'm not going to pretend that pseudo-justice league was good, but the show definitely got better once Clark wasn't bound by a class schedule.
Wyatt Walker
Carver lore is fucked up. Damn made sure to try to connect his arcs to previous seasons
Lincoln Hernandez
Carver Edlund?
Jordan Cruz
Is she coming back for the final season?
Robert Wright
Jeremy “Major retconner” Carver
Cooper Thomas
The one thing that struck me [while] watching Season 7 was I felt like the show got a little bit buried under its mythology. It became a little hard to tell exactly what was going on at times. The longtime fans all deserve intricate plot, but it felt a little burdensome. Resetting our mythology was one idea that I tried to bring into [the show].
Cooper Rogers
Sammeh, stop picking up stray black women.
Colton Garcia
is the thread still alive?
Gavin Cook
>watching Season 7 was I felt like the show got a little bit buried under its mythology
>unironically brought in the oldest and most powerful villain (Amara) until season 13
>it was his best season
>his first few seasons were pointless shit
fucking CARVER
Nathan Price
We can only hope
Joseph Jenkins
deAn you know the demon blood gave me jungle fever
Xavier Cox
>Season 7 was I felt like the show got a little bit buried under its mythology
season 7 is quite literally the most straight forward post-kripke season. Nothing about it was complicated. If anything, it might have benefited with more power-rivalry between Eve's children and the Leviathans but nothing about the season was heavy.
David Clark
Jonathan Jones
I'M GONNA POST IT!
Kevin Wilson
just got back from the gym, but gotta go mow the grass. don't let the thread die
Dominic Stewart
Of course!
This is not me!
Kayden Johnson
>tfw we have enough supernatural images for every day activity
Nathan Murphy
I know this qt
Angel Peterson
>no jensen as cyclops and misha as jean gray
Xavier Fisher
>when the destiel shitters became delusional with Castiel saying "I love you", the camera switching to Dean and then Castiel saying "I love all of you" to the rest of the characters
kek the salt was enough to destroy 1,000 ghosts
Ethan White
but why does it take precedence over a Supernatural spinoff is the real question. The numbers are all there. Objective data.
Adrian Hernandez
yeah yeah, but this was still objectively one of the best episodes
Justin Price
wrong
Robert Diaz
>dubs confirm
>gets more dubs
>also all the dubs here attacking legashit
Julian Lee
fuck you and your timely dubs!
Jayden Martin
Charles Kelly
is this Grimm show good? Most important, is it still going?
David Walker
>is this Grimm show good
it's good, give it a try. Supernatural bros are just afraid to admit it but they know they're weak for shows featuring chads who hunt monsters
Jayden Long
>tfw btfo by dubs sorcery
Cooper James
Based wasted ben poster
Nathaniel Rodriguez
it will be the last time he uses that image successfully
Adam Bennett
Well, hello there
Dylan Jackson
well well who's the lad we have here
Noah Jackson
Vampire Diaries was the most watched CW's show in 2011-13, Supernatural never climbed that high
David Adams
>data more than half a decade ago
>relevant for 2019 schedule instead of the 2015-18 ratings
Ayden Fisher
Supernatural's peak viewership reached 5.9+million, The Vampire Diaries' peak viewership reached 4.9 million. Both are the respective shows' first season. Both are also at least a decade ago. Your point?
Jose Hughes
I watched Supernatural for the classic rock and brotherly bonding. The cool monster hunting was just on the side.
Jose Roberts
slow and steady wins the race. Supernatural has consistently made CW's top shows up until its 14th season. Also in 2012-14, Supernatural was quite literally one of the few handful shows GAINING popularity
Eli Bell
it would be cool if dean and sam could fight this fucker in a motw episode next season
Dylan Jackson
fucking hell that was what I was thinking of all the time I was watching this. I reckon when they ran over it with a car, they should have hacked it apart, set it ablaze and stored them in different chests.
Same thing when I was watching the Blair Witch, I think Sam and Dean would have worn hex bags to protect them from disorienting spells, and they would have painted sigils on the trees/ground to protect themselves or at least weaken the witch's magic in certain areas, and then systematically make their way through the cabin while continuing to create protective sigils. I bet they could dig up lore and create a spell that would temporarily remove all enchantments in an area for crunch moments
Dominic Young
Could Cain come back from the dead?
Luke Reed
>22 hours of this thread that followed a maxed out thread
impressive
Benjamin Nelson
>cain.jpg
>Cain.webm
well what are the odds
Jason Johnson
samuel me dear boy, where have ye run off to?
Jason Hughes
>The cool monster hunting was just on the side
you can have me on the side, user
Jaxon Perez
So left one is young Misha? That's uncanny
Jonathan Turner
Great monster, but it's copywrited
Jayden Powell
For the Blair witch they'd just call Ro, for jeepers yea chop it to pieces but those pieces then scatter them
Michael Wright
>but
*burn
Daniel Campbell
More like Yikes!
Seething shills
Could have thrown an explainer that they didn’t have the colt so they need to rely on the next best thing: the first blade. But no. No mention at all. The Knights were hamfisted additions. Great as Cain and Abaddon were, it made no sense that Lilith (Adam’s first wife) was a white eyed demon, and Cain, a second-generation human was made leader of the knights and yet the princes of hell (were the oldest after Lilith and all demons were former humans) were literally who in their human lives. At least Dabb had the decency to carefully mention Lilith TWICE in the episode he reveals/retcons the yellow eyes as princes of hell (to build up on and compare with established lore), and at least Azazel had the monologue that the “others” lost faith as a possible retroactive reference to the other princes. The Knights had no mention nor reference prior to their appearance in the show. Carver is a hack. He was so quick to distance himself from the Gamble era that in essence, he made Purgatory sterile and more about drama instead of actual monstrosities and survival, and he contributed to the fractured transition. If he didn’t make season 11, his era is easily the worst. At least Gamble sidestepped before trying to escalate. Carver just slapped on new things on top of old lore but didn’t bother to check if his new shit was compatible
Grayson Rodriguez
I like Rowena but that’s a cop out. Hunters should be able to root out a powerful witch from its lair
Landon Ward
>i was eight years old, you said you'd be back in a flash!
Nathaniel Phillips
They job to witches all the time, they almost always have someone else bail them out when up against witches
Carson Young
>Crowley “mummy pls love me” Macleod
Oliver Baker
You know they could've had it that all the princes had a cadre of knights, and Cain was Lilith's head knight, the knight thing could've worked with the lore but they were just so sloppy about it
Cameron Carter
They job to witches during the early seasons. Once they innovated the witch killing spell (season 7 “Shut Up, Dr. Phil”) to a bomb (season 8 “Man’s Best Friend With Benefits”) and finally into bullets, their track records against witches improved significantly
Liam Jones
That’s what I meant though. Carver did not care to give us an explainer on how they sat with hell’s heirarchy. I mean of course he wouldn’t know about the princes since that came after but he could at least give a relative comparison on how they fared/worked with other high tier demons like Lilith Azazel Alastair Samhain etc
Naomi was also never titled. She and her posse were “intelligence angels” when there are half a dozen unused angel choirs or she could simply be named a seraph that was on or higher than Zachariah’s tier. Seriously, one line could do wonders. “Intelligence angels” sounds so dumb
Ryder Roberts
at least carver brought the show back from the brink of cancellation after the disastrous gamble seasons. imo the knights were awesome because of their originality and cain was the best minor character in the entire series. by that i mean not only the character in the show, but also the actor that portrayed him was excellent
Gavin Diaz
Agreed, also Alistair never fit anything either