Watching First Blood with girlfriend

First Blood: A movie that is, essentially, about the horrors of war on a personal level

Rambo: ACTION HERO STAR MAN YEAH BLOW SHIT UP

It's amazing contradictory the series is, especially after how intelligent (or at least thought provoking) the first one was.

Actually it isn't deeper than that; it's exactly that. You hit the nail on the head.

Pretty much, but I think there's added context with how he fought and lived through nightmares "for our freedoms" and then comes back and is harassed by authorities and prevented from having the freedom he fought for. That pretty much makes it so if you have testicles it's your obligation to turn back.

did the sperk plag keep foul?

You got it man. I hope you explained this to her.

I've never even watched it with her, I just wanted to make a First Blood thread

Based

Rocky I/II: The ultimate underdog gets a chance to be great. Nearly universally relatable for blue collar audiences.
Rocky III-present: Punchy wants to fight

Stallone eventually strips his films of any emotion.

Kirk Douglas was originally going to be Colonal Trautman, but wanted changes to the script. He wanted Rambo to die.
Stallone disagreed, saying "What kind of message does that send to vets, that the only way out is death?"
While Douglas countered "Yeah, but it's artistic".
What do you think? Would Rambo dying have been a more kino ending?

Would it have been after his big emotional scene? Then yes it would be better.

based Douglas tried to keep it accurate to the book I agree though that it depends when Rambo would bite the dust

I haven't read the book but I've been told that he basically shoots the Sheriff Teasle knowing that it'll reveal himself and get him killed, which does.
Not sure under what context it happens. Personally I think him dying probably would have been the better end, but I actually get where Stallone is coming from. Plus it would have prevented the Rambo movies which I don't think really respect what the series is actually about. I guess the 4th is watchable. I can't stand 2 or 3.
Having said all that, I don't find the ending of First Blood unsatisfactory. But I do headcannon it that that is the complete ending and Rambo is basically a different universe, which they basically acknowledge with the title change

They filmed Rambo dying but it was too much of a downer ending.

I think him surviving is a better ending and Stallone was right.

The original ending is on YouTube if anyone wants to see it

It sows that Rambo truly is nothing more than a killing machine

the book explains it better, in the movie his motivations seem strange because the only thing you see before this is him talking to his dead black buddies' mom.
it doesnt even seem like he would have any interest being in that part of america after losing the last of his squad to cancer.

If I'm not mistaken the movie has Rambo sparing the sheriff after his monologue and in the book he monologues and shoots the sheriff just for Trautman to blow Rambo's head off with a shotgun

Stubbornness, pride, subconscious seeking of confrontation to avoid his feelings of aimlessness?

Rambo dying would have been a much better ending, a man's gotta live with the consequences of his decisions.

Only the guy in the helicopter dies

based Stallone was right.

Ted Kotcheff is really a good director
How can the guy who did Wake in Fright do Weekend at Bernie's? Now he does Law & Order episodes.

it literally just swaps between 2 stroke and 4 stroke noises

>First Blood: A movie that is, essentially, about the horrors of war on a personal level

lol, no.
First Blood is literally just a Slasher Movie where the killer's motivation is being a pissed-off boomer veteran and nothing more. The fact that he has PTSD doesn't somehow make the movie deep or thoughtful.

At least in First Blood Part 2 not only is Rambo somewhat sympathetic and heroic, but he actually does something to benefit the world around him rather than just mindlessly killing Americans doing their jobs.

fuck OFF with that question mark jesus christ

it's been a long time since i've watched it but didn't he just wind the fucking thing out in 2nd gear and never, ever shift?

stopped reading at "boomer"
try less, fag

Did I trigger you?

>americans doing their jobs
>police officers preventing people from going where they want to go

>t. smoothbrain

BECAUSE THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD

he wasn't a woman like you

Stallone was right. Colonel Trautman and Rambo moving on from Vietnam together was kino.

Fucking boomers ruining a great movie because "respect muh military vets!"

>you can get arrested just by simply walking in america

holy fucking shit what a shithole of a country.