Episode 9 hype

Episode 7 was a decent movie, and seemed excellent coming off the prequels, and when audiences were left with the impression that someone competent would follow it up.

In all honesty, what would it take for JJ to deliver ep 9 kino and save the franchise?

Also, if he does save star wars, does JJ instantly become a god?

damn sheev looks like THAT?

First 20 minutes were good up until Rey came on the screen. JJ didn’t write that part the other guy did. JJ started writing as soon as we see Rey on Jakku. That’s kinda why we got to see Kylo use a new force power then everything became a rehash after.

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Impossible. The only chance now is introducing time travel, but introducing time travel would itself be gay.

The legitimate only hope for the franchise is to set every future film before the sequel time period, and never reference anything from these movies again. TLJ wasn't just a bad movie, it broke the setting, they can't acknowledge it.

>Episode 7 was a decent movie
No, it made zero sense. It was fucking retarded.
>seemed excellent coming off the prequels
kill yourself faggot scum.

7 was decent until the 3rd act, even though it had several stupid moments like bypassed the compressor. Ultimately it was made to be as inoffensive as possible and it succeeded to a degree. TLJ was made by people who hate Star Wars, so it was never going to be good.

no it was shit

That kike permanently ruined star wars with episode 7, there was no recovering after that.

No, it was decent.

So you kind of did answer my second question. If it's seen as impossible, then JJ becomes God Emperor if he saves Ep IX.

why do you post like a nigger twitter twat?

Actually it was 8 that ruined everything. 7 was fine.

There was nothing remotely decent about, you're just brainless.

>TLJ was made by people who hate Star Wars
I'll never be convinced that Rian actually watched the movie his was a sequel to.

>7 was decent until the 3rd act
Even the setting doesnt work moron.

for you

no, I can't even think of a single decent thing about it, even the fucking opening crawl sucks

>hype

It isn't good now, because it's all setup, and now we know that setup went nowhere. But it was decent on opening night. A lifetime of bitter loneliness has left you unable to enjoy things.

>le setting doesn't work
Fuck off faggot, Star Wars was never good and never made sense by any real standards. I judge it by the same standard I judge capeshit with.

7 ruined luke, han, leia, chewie, the rebellion, the empire and all their new characters and factions all in one movie.

How did it ruin Luke, Leia, or Chewie?

It would have been very easy to remedy all that in 8, but it shit the bed which retroactively made 7 worse, but before 8 came out it was a good reintroduction to Star Wars.

It was never goid because it's internal logic and continuity don't fit with the real star wars movies.

You can pinpoint the exact minute that TFA turns to irredeemable trash and that's when Finn meets up with Rey because it's when they decide not to have the only characters with any chemistry together (Finn and Poe) actually stick around and when Rey goes from being a relatable character just trying to get by to being an invincible, all powerful god.

>ITT: Bitter autism vs blatant shilling

How so? Keep in mind, we're talking about episode 7 here, not episode 8.

This. I left the theater so happy after 7. It was a good Star Wars movie.

>It would have been very easy to remedy
the fact it needed to be remedied at all means 7 was faggot shit.

I enjoy plenty of things, just not shit films like that one

Defending 7 isn't shilling. Saying we are excited for 9 would be shilling, but no one is saying that.

>How so?
Have you ever watched tge real srar wars movies faggot? did you just turn your brain off?

Exar Kun's the coolest Sith name from the comics.

Not necessarily. It was a spiritual successor to IV, it started in media res and was just meant to be a fun action movie. Episode 8 could have done the world building 7 lacked and everything would have been fine.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=kYWx5aHQcXI

That scene is the best we’ll ever get in the Sequel Trilogy. It’s crazy how fast the movie went downhill after this.

>I don't even know this kid.jpg

fuck off marvel cuck, no one cares what you think.

I'm sympathetic to this argument but even so you have to acknowledge the blatant theft of plot from A New Hope.

Yeah, watched it many times. Are you able to detail how episode 7's "internal logic and continuity don't fit with the real star wars movies"?

Because it fit fine, but I'd be interested to hear the perspective of a half-illiterate, feral, slobbering goat fucker of a faggot like yourself.

It's a spiritual successor / soft reboot. I don't know why the plot being lifted from the original movie bothers you, media does this all the time when it tries to find a new audience.

>It was a spiritual successor to IV
it was the 7th chapter that didn't fit with the previous 6. It shoukd have just been a reboot. they ruined the story and characters.

I farted.

Yeah, it definitely did.

I think I was more forgiving of that, because I grew up after the OT was released, but before the prequels, so it was a lot of EU content for me, and that stuff rehashed the story all the time.

> another super weapon
> another emperor clone

It isn't great story telling, but I'm okay with it in a movie that was basically an apology for the prequels, and the selling point was a return to old form.

why was finn a janitor being sent with gyno ren on the first orders most important mission? why had a man of fins age not been blooded previous to this mission?
why is rey so over powered in every way? how is she an expert pilot? how can she speak wookie?
why the fuck would the rebellion disarm itself?
where did the first order and all it's resources come from? how is it stronger than the empire?
how does snoke fit in to anything? the emperor would never allow someone like that to exist.
why is the new republic 5 planets spitting distance from each other?
why would luke hide while his friends and the galaxy burns?

>media does this all the time when it tries to find a new audience
Yes, and two points on this
1. Recent attempts at this (2010s) have been predominantly spectacular failures so I argue it was not a wise path to go down
2. Everyone, EVERYONE, already knew about Star Wars. Zoomers who this was supposedly rebooted for were introduced to Star Wars by their parents and popular culture. Rebooting something as colossal and ubiquitous as Star Wars was unnecessary but maybe it's all JJ knows how to do anymore

I read this, and I see a few "this redditor is legitimately retarded", i.e. Finn's age - how old is Finn? How do you know? What age would a stormtrooper normally be blooded? You have no idea what you're talking about.

The rest are only problems because of episode 8 and 9. Who is Rey? Why does she not remember her childhood, but also clearly has force training? These were plot hooks, not plot holes, until Rian came along and took a shit on the silver screen.

Episode 7 was decent, and episode 8 retroactively ruined it. You're an imbecile, so you probably can't hold the idea of a story being perceived differently when the audience doesn't know what the follow up is going to be, but that's what happened here.

Finn's entire character concept is such a fucking mess it's unbelievable.

Star Wars needed a reboot because it was going downhill until the TFA hype.
Just look how Mass Effect became a bigger deal than KOTOR and how it proved that people just don't give a fuck about the Star Wars brand.

>Mass Effect became a bigger deal than KOTOR
lol no

He's a fully grown man so he's minimum 18, he was trained from birth and raised as a child soldier but never saw a battle before episode 7 and he was also a janitor and they also chose to send this janitor who never saw battle on the most crucial mission with gyno ren. None of this makes any sense.
>The rest are only problems because of episode 8 and 9.
No they're problems with 7. rey doesn't have obvious force training, she's ridiculously over powered in every way because they wanted to push the strong woman agenda, her beating down the great grandson of the force who's been trained by luke skywalker and snoke a day after she found out it was real with never ever make sense.
you can't defend any of this shit casual.

Lawrence Kasdan or Michael Arndt?

>You're an imbecile, so you probably can't hold the idea of a story being perceived differently when the audience doesn't know what the follow up is going to be

none of the new characters work at all if you tnink about them for 5 seconds. It's completely baffling hiw they managed to fuck up disney wars on every single level.

>Mass Effect became a bigger deal than KOTOR
in what universe

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your post is irrelevant. they failed in setting up the story and the characters

They didn't, though. Rian failed on following through with what was given.

What does that have to do with Rey being a Mary Sue?

7 was an ok film itself. It just completely fucked the star wars characters and the universe itself. 8 is a shit awful film itself and rapes the star wars characters and universe again and again

you haven't been able to defend anything thats been mentioned
>they can retcon it in the next one
you're just fucking pathetic user

>guys, lets make a trilogy of the biggest franchise in existence and not have a plan for all three films and let 3 separate directors do whatever they want with their instalments
brilliant, kathleen you've done it again. Let's get filming straight away!

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There were places to take her backstory in episode 8 and 9 that would have resolved it.

Instead, we got Rian shrugging his shoulders and saying "you're nobody special", despite Rey being a master lightsaber duelist just because.

Episode 8 took what were VERY obvious plot hooks for the trilogy going forward, and turned them into meaningless nothings and plot holes. That's the state episode 7 is in NOW, but it wasn't like that on opening night.

7 Was just a marvel movie with a star wars veneer.

An explanation, and a further elaboration, isn't a retcon. It's something you expect from a trilogy of interconnected stories.

You're unironically too stupid to understand this concept, so you'll just spin in circles forever with this.

there's no way to fix her being the equal of anakin with 10 years of jedi training when she just found out the force was real.

you skipped over 90% of what's been said because youre a pathetic coward. all of those issues made 7 not work, they're glaring issues, you can't just leave it to the next one

She doesn't remember her past, she's a Skywalker, she was training at the academy, Luke and Mara's daughter, left on junk planet for reasons, etc.

Others can come up with better ideas, but there were places to go that wouldn't have left it at "equal of anakin with 10 years of jedi training when she just found out the force was real".

There was a plan given to Rian, he tossed it, and Kathleen let it happen. The films were never going to be great, but if you want to talk about them being garbage - that started at episode 8, not 7.

>You're unironically too stupid to understand this concept, so you'll just spin in circles forever with this.

Dark Empire was incredible.

Why even bother having a reasonable thought, friend? This isn't the place it used to be.

Both ep 7 and the prequels were equally atrocious.

why should we be hyped? we know absolutely nothing about the movie.

>An explanation, and a further elaboration
how would that fix any of the issues raised?

So why can't ships hyperspace ram other ships in the Star wars universe? What's the problem with it? Was it the damage it was able to do, or another issue? Or is it a more of a Pandora's box type issue where it was possible for something like that to happen, and since it did, it trivialized everything that came before it?

someone people are trying to but this faggot just keeps repeating himself.

why would you be hyped at all regardless?

How would plot explanation fix unexplained plot?

Christ.

The second one.

Also the old explanation from WEG's rulebook was that objects in hyperspace don't impact the real world, but real objects can impact them, making them blow up and the pieces harmlessly bounce back into real space. But then all of the EU authors that brought it up ignored that anyway so who the fuck cares right?

further explanation of why finns character makes zero sense, further explanation of why rey is far stronger than force Jesus, further explanation of how snoke can even exist, further explanation of why the rebels would disarm and allow a far bigger and stronger empire to rise further explanation of why luke would let his nephew fuck up the galaxy, further explanation of why he would abandon his friends. There are no good answers to these questions, you can't come up with them abd neither could disney

Soft reboot, my ass. It's basically a copy/paste of New Hope.

7 would of worked better if it was an elseworlds, what if Star Wars story
Literally stealing more EU shit and adapting several themes into one. Leia is the Skywalker and meant to take down Vader and Palpy. And Dark Empire. There's so much more that they changed here and there. And then wrote, orange anal ID: donut steel.
Nothing makes sense on why anything would come to be after RotJ. They copied and pasted so many EU ideas but they could only go halfway and basically put it back to square one like ANH. EU basically mapped out the framework of TNR and they fucking dropped the ball. They couldn't fully commit to the idea of what would happen with the end of Jedi.
They take over Curoscant and seek to reestablish things as it was with the old republic.
Tell me anyone listening to holonet, about the rebels defeating the empire and the emperor is dead. And oh, they're THE RESISTANCE now and they're still fighting to try and run things. I hear there's some group as well, this FIRST ORDER and they sound like a bunch of faggots too. But at least it looks like they got shit more organized and not running on a shoestring budget
There's no seamless transition at all from VI to VII
There is from III to IV and those were made decades apart from each other
This is not the true ST and it never will be. Disney can stamp canon and retcon on everything they want and it still won't be shit because what they've done
Everyone always had a dream of what would happen after Jedi. And now we have to live with the nightmare of it's reality

This faggot reddit nigger fled the thread

>7 would of worked better if it was an elseworlds, what if Star Wars story
>Literally stealing more EU shit and adapting several themes into one. Leia is the Skywalker
I hope someone slits your fucking throat Kathleen

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>”So, who talks first?”
go to hell

shepherd has a cute butt

>It had the potential to be
Not really

It was awhile ago, I think it was comics.
It was the OT and was inverted
Luke died and Leia became the one to bring back the force. That's literally fucking Rey. How Leia dressed in the later chapters with training with Yoda is similar to how Rey dresses.
The EU has been around so long and there's been so many stories told through several platforms that they can never really do anything OC because they fucking explored it. They could push out some new shit that they want you to believe that it's gonna be good. And then there's some faggot that read through a YA Jedi Adventures book that's set to a 3rd grade reading level. And figure out the plots and themes they're using

Kill yourself faggot scum