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Lucas with absolutely no contest. Such a shame Disney has raped it to death
P. sure Howard didn't create FO or TES.
It's between Tolkien and Roddenberry.
*Ahem*
God
I'm not gonna lie. This is the only right answer. Beautiful, user that was just beautiful.
Game of Thrones world is boring as fuck
>howard added
Who was there originaly?
>Todd
>Fallout
KYS.
Tolkien and Roddenberry because the rest imitated and borrowed from them. And Michael Kirkbride is the true brains behind the lore in The Elder Scrolls.
This isn't even a contest. Anyone who doesn't say Tolkien doesn't know shit.
They did CS Lewis dirty, removing him in favour of the hack Todd Howard.
With that being said, the answer, as poster number 116778454 so succinctly stated, is God.
>Roddenberry
His "Universe" was pretty retarded. You remember it had an entire planet of Gangsters next to the Nazi planet
This. And I'm just going to say it, I think gurm is next, followed by Lucas and then who ever created tes/fallout.
Stan Lee
> Star Wars/Lucas
Ripped off science fiction serials and had to rely on other people to make the majority of his lore.
> Star Trek
Pretty good. Cheesy and optimistic, but Rodenberry had his fingers in the pie throughout.
> Fallout/Elder Scrolls
Todd Howard most likely had very little to do with the making of these universes. They're the product of hundreds of writers, animators, etc.
> JRR Tolkien
Pretty good. He never whored his work out and let others play in his universe either.
> Rowling
It's not bad, but It's definitively lower than everything else on the list. I don't think she really made up anything herself, it was just a conglomerate of ideas and concepts that already existed.
> Martin
He would win if he'd actually finish his story. He took a genre that is played out and made it fresh, creating rich lore, characters, and politics. It's much deeper than anything else on the list.
Tolkien wins until GRRM finishes.
GRR Martin is an overrated hack and a fat fuck. No wonder the Red Wedding is 95% descriptions of how the characters devour food with grease dripping from their chins. The fat hack will die before the next book is released.
Star Trek for me because everything else has turned into bad fanfiction.
>Elder Scrolls
That was mostly Michael Kirkbride, I believe.
You don't want to live in a universe where such a thing is possible?
You know who.
Star Trek inspired real people to become real scientists, engineers, doctors and inventors in order to create the stuff they saw on the show.
Tolkein spent his adult life worldbuilding. His ghost is probably an admin of r/worldbuilding. That nigger's epic fantasy world is lightyears beyond anything the others ever or will ever do.
Tolkien by far. His understanding of mythos and attention to detail was outstanding. Guy invented fucking languages.
Roddenberry done well but the actual Trek universe wasn't really fleshed out or that interesting when he was in control.
Howard didn't create those.
Lucas and Martin both created great universes.
Rowling is a hack shit.
Tolkien
His worldbuilding was impressive, he created languages since he was an actual philologist, great character and literally eras worth of fiction
GRRM still has to finish his books, and his dedication to his own work says a lot about his legacy
Lucas ripped off samurai stories and epic western good vs bad themes, but he did what Tolkien did with north mythology and folklore, making these stories his own. also, he was a pioneer in visual effects, and this alone helped him creating his own world, making his vision his own
JK rowling started to pander to her readers from book 4 onward, he should've focused on new generation of wizards insteam of muh "grimdark fantasy" and "I never said Hermione wasn't black" shit
also gay dumbledore wtf
Todd, well I love the man and his ies, but he didn't create TES, his first game in TES game was Daggerfall and from there it went downhill: Kirkbride was a much bigger influence in world building, but then again, look at Morrowind and just think about all the WEED DUDE LMAO he smoked so it's not that much
never watched stark trek so I can only say this:
youtube.com
Literally none of those.
The winner is Terry Pratchett.
James Whale and Tod Browning with the Universal Monsters
Tolkien inspired a whole lot of people too, and he lectured in Oxford and the US.
James Cameron Avatar 1 - 5
The Lord, our Father in Heaven created the greatest universe, as all of those people listed dwell upon it with his blessings. He created his kingdom with perfect goodness, none who live can hope to see the wonders of his work.
Based
None of those hacks.
Tolkien, people can't stop borrowing his work and imitating him
Especially by butchering the elves
Matt Groening
Sneed Universe
Why's the video games guy included?
which one?
Remember it was a 60's TV show as well. You had to have a western episode, a mobster episode and a hippy drug trip episode.
World building plays second fiddle to ratings.
Having said that, Star Trek still shits all over Star wars universe.
The amount of world building content created by JRR is insurmountable.
Tolkien or Roddenberry.
>not Terry Pratchett
>forces
how exactly do you get "forced" to do said thing? Do women truly have no sense of pride or a backbone?
Tolkien obviously
>todd
>creating anything
absolutely based.
Do you honestly think a song of ice and fire is deeper than the Lord of the rings? A thousand pages of describing food, incest and penises is not comparable to creating a language
Based and truthpilled
In terms of actual content development by that person, Tolkien without question.
If we count the entire universe included "extended universe" content, probably Star Wars.
basically
none of these other idiots even came close to creating
>a comprehensive history from the beginning of time to the end of time
>several functioning languages with unique syntaxes (inb4 klingon, that's just english with different words)
>cohesive religious beliefs for the characters of the world
dozens of other items I'm missing
I have a thing for narnia(even though cs lewis isn't there) but it's gotta be tolkien.
But it's a shittier, more rambling story than Martin's. Nearly all the protagonists are assholes, and nearly every single one of their character developments come to nothing because they die at the end. Ultimately, nothing they do will ever amount to anything because everything is pointless in the end.
I'd much rather stick to a story where characters have value by way of their individual personalities and deeds.
>grease/fat dripping from their chins
The next time I read this line in a book I'm going to throw it a fucking wall. It's almost as bad as Harry Getting Up To Stretch His Legs
the GOAT
He
very nice
close seconds are Star Wars and LOTR
Real answer is Michael Kirkbride for The Elder Scrolls
>Nearly all the protagonists are assholes
But I'm the only protagonist and I'm a pretty swell guy.
>several functioning languages with unique syntaxes
Hey now. He was a philologist. That's practically cheating.
>dozens of other items I'm missing
20,000 years worth of genealogies
Fuck off Todd
It's been 13 billion years and he's nowhere near an ending. It's all just rambling storylines that never get tied up.
>implying
based
based
Shut your fucking mouth retard, I'm cool.
Tolkien and it's not even remotely close. His worldbuilding is ridiculously detailed, and while he was autistically establishing grammar rules, sentence structures, scripts, and cognates for the likes of Quenya, Sindarin, etc., and coming up with a religious/mythical framework for his entire world, he also managed to write a few books that became the most influential fantasy trilogy of the 20th century.
Lucas and Rowling shouldn't be in this image, and that's not an insult to them. They never meant to make anything more than fun movies for people (especially kids) to enjoy. Star Wars and HP have really shallow universes, any "depth" you can assign to them comes from what essentially amounts to fanfiction (the Star Wars EU for example).
Not to mention a veteran of the most brutal war in history (up to that point).
the only ones out of those 6 that actually have any form of kinoness are lucas tolkien and roddenberry
fallout harry potter and GoT should fuck off
>ES universe including quests is a complete rip-off of D&D adventures
>Fallout is just a rip-off of ES set in a different time-zone
>HP started off great for kids but the "HP universe" has so many plot holes and logic holes it's back to family guy entertainment tier.
>GoT doesn't enjoy the grandour that is LOTR or Star Wars (haven't watched much Star Trek), it goes way to much into detail of people's lives instead of painting a great universe. Also it seems simplified with no special gimmicks like futuristic weapons or ancient magical beings (dragons and ice zombies aren't special), and with all these shows to draw inspiration GRRM should've been able to do way better. (writing something that would be equal to LOTR after decades is not equal, so much inspiration could be drawn from LOTR that it should surpass LOTR content-wise to even be on its same level)
I don't know GRRM actually has some religions created.
This but the exact opposite
Todd didn't create either of those things.
There is only one First Cause.
James Cameron's Avatar
Didnt he ripoff a russian for that?
Basado y rojo pildorado.
>implying
God's story is all episodic and it even comes with the option to end your own early if you don't find it suited your tastes.
Tolkien fought in the 30 years war?
why do retarded author faggots have so many fuckign names that they have to abbreviate them to seem normal?
Satoshi Tajiri
Nobody:
Absolutely nobody:
Not a single soul, I promise you:
George RR Martin: *hold my beer, it’s about to get pretty g*dd*mn fantastical up in this b*tch.*
GRRM but the books not the show
tpbp
You have to go back.
Todd Howard didn't create Elder Scrolls, lads.
cringe
>criticises Tolkien for her universe just being an amalgamation of other things
>says Martin is the best.
Interesting...
Frank Hebert - Dune
Hes the only one on that list who actually created a universe.
it's herbert you fucking retard
>This isn't even a contest. Anyone who doesn't say Tolkien doesn't know shit.
But to be perfectly honest, I have never actually read anything I've written or discussed on Tolkien's side. They have never been anything to me outside of a short snippet or two — usually just a collection of quotes and anecdotes as my only source for information. I read almost everything, and it's actually kind of fun doing so, because it's just a pleasure to try reading a work so far removed from my own personal reading habits, and to try different things. There's not really much to keep a reader interested when you're writing. The thing that seems to hold people in their places is how good their knowledge is at whatever they're trying to write; for me it's always the same: A very good job, and a good story — though in Tolkien's case it wasn't a very good story at all. It is his fiction and I am so not familiar with it — it's very frustrating because Tolkien has to get so worked up about it that I don't even try.
That sounds like some random dude's opinion. Well, that's my opinion. It's my opinion. And here's why you don't need my opinion when Tolkien's fiction is so good.
For starters, the Tolkien books are so good because they're so good! And Tolkien's fiction is so good because (1) even if you don't care about Gandalf or Theon (who are good, but not essential) they're more important than anyone who doesn't care about them (you and me)? The Hobbit, for instance, is a big epic. Not just "I have the book that proves how great the Bible is" but "Why, it has everything one would want, and it's the greatest book in my life." Tolkien doesn't just talk about it, he literally brings it up.
He brings it up in a way that makes every chapter of the book about its greatest story and makes every last one of the plot and characters and the settings so powerful that in the end you don't care. You care too much about the world and the people to actually care. You don't care about those things. You care about Tolkien's work.
That's what makes his books so great. That's what makes them so rich.
George RR Martin: (to himself) I know that you aren't happy. You know it is. I know the fact that I have lost you at that point. I am sorry that I could not have provided the kind of comfort, the love, of which you were the perfect example.
>Todd Howard didn't create Elder Scrolls, lads.
He only wrote it," says James, of Jameson's Food Market in the village.
Liam, the pub's proprietor, has been in his family barman's business for 22 years and is equally passionate about Elder Scrolls.
"There has to be something to learn and grow from Elder Scrolls. I think you get there once you understand it," he says.
In recent years, however, Liam says, there has been a spate of fans who are finding games so much more fun on Wii U than on PC. "Some of the old fans have gone to go buy a new console, there's really no point to go back to playing games on the current console."
Elder Scrolls 7: Skyrim will be released later this year with a free DLC pack to unlock.
Tolkien. Outside the OT and PT, the rest of the Star Wars EU comes from a myriad of authors other than Lucas. Same with Star Trek, Roddenberry, and the original series and the next generation. Gurm can’t even finish his main novels, you can barely call Rowling’s a developed fictional universe, and what the fuck is Fallout doing there.
Tolkien created an entire personal mythology to satisfy his philology autism, then made a children’s tale, then moved said children’s tale and it’s high fantasy sequel into his already made mythology, then created two more ages to bridge the gap between his published stories and his mythology, then spent the remainder of his life nitpicking every single thing in his subcreated world while at the same time creating a theo-philosophical background for it (then also nitpicking it), because he was that autistic.
Lucas just ripped off Dune
Tolkien without a doubt. Since he actually created an actual universe with real languages and everything. None of those other hacks put as much effort into their creations as he did.
>Tolkien. Outside the OT and PT, the rest of the Star Wars EU comes from a myriad of authors other than Lucas. Same with Star Trek, Roddenberry, and the original series and the next generation. Gurm can’t even finish his main novels, you can barely call Rowling’s a developed fictional universe, and what the fuck is Fallout doing there.
>Tolkien created an entire personal mythology to satisfy his philology autism, then made a children’s tale, then moved said children’s tale and it’s high fantasy sequel into his already made mythology, then created two more ages to bridge the gap between his published stories and his mythology, then spent the remainder of his life nitpicking every single thing in his subcreated world while at the same time creating a theo-philosophical background for it (then also nitpicking it), because he was that autistic.
I think that Tolkien created "the" myth as a way to bridge the "myth" of the world he constructed around his mind, rather than realizing the entire mythology of his mind was a lie that created an artificially created world where you have people who believe that they ARE A GENDER AND THEY DO AND EVERYTHING.
He went from this brilliant science-fiction movie to a pulp space opera movie. And, despite going on to make another great sci-fi movie, the "Dune" franchise has remained understated. It's more of the same, no different. It's easy to see why Lucas wanted to throw as many people off track as possible, especially since he didn't give us any clear indication of his next film before announcing it was coming, so it's probably safe to assume that his next film is the same as his first movie. Even if that sequel was called "Return of the Jedi." You know, the next film that made it to theaters was "The Force Awakens." We can't go into too much detail, but Lucas knew that while "Force Awakens" was supposed to be his next project, he probably would never go to the trouble of making it. So, Lucas wanted to make something more subtle, something less flashy. So, Lucas chose, and I'm sure Lucas will be pleased to find out that what the rest of us really want is the return of the old Jedi, Obi Wan Kenobi.
Tolkien > Roddenberry > Martin > Rowling > Lucas > Howard
Todd Howard didn't make Fallout
fuck's sake zoomers
Robert E. Howard is the only correct answer.
>Todd
>created fallout
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I think you found an antagonist, user.
But don't worry, I'll be Mercutio and fucking die.
>George Lucas
Disney...
>Gene Roddenberry
almost no flaws, Excellent Sci-Fi
>Todd Howard
Cheater
>J.R.R. Tolkien
One damn masterpiece after another
No words for this man and his creations
>J.K. Rowling
mehh...
Common of Plagiarism
>George R.R. Martin
FINISH THE BOOKS BEFORE YOU DIE OF FAT.
BASED
BASED and Underrated
>they massacred his boy...
The only answer I know of that has to do with the idea, though, is that we were going to use it as an analogy for the whole matter. We had been thinking about ways in which the idea could possibly be related, a real parallel, to what we'd been thinking about in our study of human intelligence, in terms of how the parts of the brain interact with each other and with the environment. Now, one of the great challenges of this study is to try to see what kinds of processes, of what kinds of relationships can be detected. In fact they had just begun to look very systematically at this issue, and by the time they came back from their long fieldwork in the 1960's and 70's, many of the patterns that they had been studying, they had completely eliminated because they realized that they were not related at all to human nature—at all. And this study, by the way, is the only one I know of that has ever come up with a really robust and coherent explanation for the connection between this and human nature—or human brains, if you like.
You can bully me however much you want, but that place would be pretty sick once they patched the death.irl bug.
What about lovecraft?
Is this a joke?
>jedi look for the "chosen one" to return balance to the force despite there being thousands of jedi and literally only 2 sith
>jedi all over the place then die and are replaced by two men who are strong force users. 20 years after the jedi die, everyone forgets the force is a thing
For me, it's JMS
of these 6, tolkein and grrm are the only two who put any effort into constructing an internally consistent, expansive and believable universe. in all the others shit just happens for the sake of the plot
but arya killing the night king is fine? fuck off
Tolkien - Head and shoulders above the rest.
Black Isle - Fallout 1&2 (and maybe-sorta New Vegas) is a very cool universe.
Roddenberry - Some good some bad.
GRR Martin - Jury's still out.
Lucas - Shoulda stopped after the OT.
Rowling - Her universe is broken.
TES - Shallow as a puddle.
> Saying Howard created Fallout is like saying K.Kenedy created Star Wars
> or D&D created Game of Thrones.
How is that different from the characters in OP's universes?
Lovecraft for books
Kojima for vidya
ASOIAF is very derivative in a lot of places but overall it gets way more hate than it deserves and has decent and interesting world building