How come knights didn't get a kino movement like the cowboys and samurai?

Kingdom of Heaven is anti-Knight

the swords and sandals genre(jason and the argonauts, ben hurr ect) took its place which was cooler anyways

this
DOOS BULT!!!

Money, movies with knights in armor would be very expensive to make. All the village, castle props, all the armor.
It's pretty cheap to get wild west gear and sets are cheap to build.

Outlaw King
The Messenger
A Knight's Tale (this one is debatable, but the accuracy of the sets and the games is 100% true but they accidentally visualized the wrong era)
watch the director's cut

there were a ton of crappy King Arthur movies in 50's and 60's

Let's just pray that Hollywood never touch the Song of Roland

Jews.

Kikes

I've only watched the meme stuff but its a good start.
>Rashomon, Seven Samurai, Yojimbo

Samurai Champloo

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that's a fantasy movie

Also helps that to shoot a cowboy movie in Hollywood you just needed to drive out 10 miles and rent a ranch

Those of the Hebrew persuasion.

The hook nosed peddlers

Watch the Samurai trilogy with Toshiro Mifune. Actually any samurai movie with Mifune is great, so check out Sword of Doom as well.

Die Juden, mein freund.

Jews.

Jaws

Big nose tribe

/thread

What changes are in the director's cut?

>read a history book
>find out Crusaders actually ran around Europe and the Middle East chimping out and killing kikes
HOLY FUCKING BASED

Rashomon is not a samurai movie.

How about a movie on King Louis expelling the Jews?

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>watch the director's cut

Every fucking time. It's a shit movie, totally anachronistic and unhistoric.

turns it into a political intrigue movie instead of just action schlock
yes the knights lose in the end, but not every movie in the samurai kinoverse has the samurai winning either

Due to a common misunderstand about the causes and purposes of the crusades which began in the enlightenment and has morphed into a one sided self Flagellating tale that makes us unable to romanticise it in the same way as cowboys and samurai in film

>How come knights didn't get a kino movement like the cowboys and samurai?

Because no director understands medieval warfare. Seventh Seal might be knight kino but it's a bit of a stretch.

They don’t lose. The film ends with the setup of the third crusade, which was successful.

It's not hard to understand. Muzzies conquered 1/3 of the Christian world and crusaders tried to take it back.

Yes but a backlash portrayal began in the enlightenment to show the crusades as the big bad example of the follies of zealotry, and that myth has morphed and become more binary over time to the present age where what people think of when you say the crusades is close minded ness, evil white people, proto colonialism, and zealotry
I’m not saying this view is accurate, or even good, I’m just explaining why due to that overbearing weight in the common conception knights didn’t get there romantic film genre the same ways outlaws or samurai did

Not all knights were crusading. I think there were more things at play, which may have to do with misconceptions from the enlightenment as well.
The whole knights are super clumsy and had to be put on their horse with a crane thing for example, which is perpetuated with GoT until this day.

>Reynald of Chatillon was never a Templar
>Raymond of Tripoli literally betrayed the Franks
>Balian of Ibelin wasn't a peasant
>Guy of Lusignan wasn't a Templar nor was he heated
>Baldwin IV wasn't a peace loving hippy
>Franks weren't force marched before the battle of Hattin
>Saladin spent more time at war with Muslims
>Templars weren't randomly executed in Jerusalem
>Reynald of Chatillon wasn't imprisoned by the Franks
>Reynald of Chatillon didn't kill Saladins Sister, no one did

They may not have lost but the film is practically pure fiction.

Juden

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The knight mare

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because Europeans only make movies about degeneracy

Joos.

Fucking hell

I hope that horse knows how cool it looks.

who cares, movies don't have to be 100% true to history unless that is the goal of the movie

yeah but most people think they were unprovoked attacks against muslims because white christians are evil no matter what

I'm not expecting total accuracy but the film is literally alternate history. The issue is people watch it and think it's accurate.

Is Christianity actually redpilled?

Yes of course. I also think a lot of it has to also do with how Europeans view there history, especially after the birth of critical theory, whereas the japanese(samurai) and Americans(cowboys) are much more romantic, excited and optimistic about there past and future

Any movie with Akira Kurosawa, Toshiro Mifune or both. They are the most iconic and actor of the Samurai genre. Seven Samurai is my favourite movie of all time.

I think you're confusing visual authenticity with historicity

No, I'm saying that people watch it and come away thinking that it's an accurate representation of Historical fact. The issue is that there isn't any form of balance, the movie is just
>Crusaders = Bad
>God hates the Crusaders
>Muslims are heroes

It's like watching a WWII movie but all the Nazis are just comicbook villains.

It's a lot better than Judaism, has a lot of far more interesting concepts filtered on. Neoplantonism and Hermeticism are actually redpilled.

it actually represents both sides as morally grey
and also the crusaders were pricks, not because they justly went after invading middle east fucks but because they spent more time invading other christians

You know what he means, Edo Japan.

>visual authenticity
>horse charges with nothing but swords
>a man kills three heavily armed knights with a clay shard

lmao

Sword in the Stone

People forget that 'Christianity' is a huge blanket term and during the Crusading periods there were huge divisions between the various sects of all major religions. Greek Orthodoxy for example was just about tolerated by the Frankish Crusader States. Certain elements of the Muslim factions assisted the Franks against Saladin because they disagreed with his version of Islam. People always point at the sacking of Constantinople but neglect to mention that the Crusader States had a hugely rocky relationship with the Byzantine Empire, they weren't best buddies and then the Crusaders just randomly attacked them, the animosity had been building for years.

I mean the Battle of Hattin was only a failure because Raymond of Tripoli (and others) were literally turncoats and fled the field with their knights, leaving the weakened Frankish forces to use the Knights Templar as a rearguard, resulting in all of them dying prior to the battle and it also crippled the Franks ability to successfully use their heavy cavalry with the numbers needed to punch through to Saladin (A tactic that had worked on a previous occasion).

Western society hates itself too much to acknowledge an honorable title like that in any manner of a good light.

I remeber this piece was fun

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>crusader with a longsword

Knights got Seventh Seal
Samurai got Sanjuro
Cowboys got Shane

>the third crusade, which was successful.
user, I...

Ken Bran's Henry V
The Lion in Winter (it has William Marshall in it)

it's the exact opposite

read the Genealogy of Morality

Jews hate Christians

Flesh + Blood, although they are are mercenaries and not knights.

check your privelige

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>read Nitzshe

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Because knights were historically straight white men, and we can't have that. Japanese minority samurai and strong gay cowboys however, gets Hollywood's money.

>take the SERF pledge

meant for

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t. Christcuck

>he doesn't know about the logos

Literally because comunism and jews in european countries. Don't have to meme it to make it truth.

Knights live on in books.

HEHEHE ZE NAITS! ZE NAITS HAHAHAHA DEUS VULT HAHAHA CRUSADES HEHEHE HES JUST LIKE ME

Because then Muslims would start screaming about how it was racist and then the movie director would have to pay them 45 trillion monies in 'reparations'.

first half of this flick is pure knightkino

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Ran is the apex of the genre as far as I'm concerned.

Why do you hate your own culture and history so much?

Don Quijote dabbed on them too hard.

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Because of Hollywood and Jews

Have they even made a version that has surpassed the Wishbone adaption?

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>Explicitly, historically, irrevocably White and Christian
>didn’t get a “kino movement” in a Jewish industry
Jesus fuck. Sub 120 IQ people are exhausting. Life isn’t even fun with Mensa level IQ, it’s just constantly sad.

>probably had something to do with knights not existing until the 19th century

knights existed well before the 19th century, user

Ironclad was fun. But it was just another 7 Samurai / Magnificent Seven adaptation.

knights aren;t real dumbfuck. they are characters in medival stories, like jedi are characters in star wars. there were people with swords all over the place, but knoghts are overdramatized examples. king arthur wasnt real; nigga, jaimre lannister isn;t real. name me one real knight? you can't do it.

Monty Python

>unhistoric
*ahistorical

just wait for Japan to do it justice maybe after Vinland Saga

>me on the right

Some of the greatest /knightcore/ kino ever made comes from a commie propaganda movie.
youtube.com/watch?v=XwwWH24rKqg
youtube.com/watch?v=vKZPgGbUuX0

underrated

Lev Bernstein won't fund a movie about the same people who butchered his ancestors without making them the bad guys. That, or making half of them black and/or women

I've got a couple of buddies in the Knights of Columbus

Thanks for telling us the name

Dunno, but I tend to favor Juan Luis Galiardo's Quijote because I grew up with it. There's a scene where he is alongside a sleeping Sancho and expresses how envious he is of his simple worldview and humble destiny, and he's so pathetically clueless and dignified there that it melts my heart.

>"Bienaventurado eres sobre cuantos viven sobre la faz de la tierra. Tú no tienes envidia, ni eres envidiado. Duermes con sosegado espíritu. ¡A ti no te persiguen encantadores, ni te sobresaltan encantamientos! No tienes celos de ninguna dama. Ni la ambición te inquieta. Ni la pompa del mundo te fatiga. Duerme, duerme. Que a ti no te aflije ver que el cielo se hace de bronce, y el rocío no cae sobre la tierra."

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corr, this is quality

Does Japan count?

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Because you're an illiterate zoomer who probably hasn't seen a movie made before 2001. Go back to /pol/ Deus vult.

Saber is a deadbeat dad.

>Muslims are heroes
the movie doesn't imply that. It only shows Saladdin and Baldwin both as above their lieutenants who thirst for war.

I'm in my mid 20s and I don't browse /pol/

>t. jew

Do Japs really think knights looked like this?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Terrail,_seigneur_de_Bayard

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Is the European film industry run by Jews?

guess

There were a lot of knight movies through the 80s, 90s and early 2000s.

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The last samurai

Not really a samurai film per se, but very beautifully shot.

looks like joan of arc

I want a Don Quixote version of capeshit

This is coming from people who call pagans LARPers

>Crusades
>Successful

Average Christian amerifat

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Do you seriously genuinely actually believe knighthoods don't exist?

Excalibur.
Ivanhoe.

>Chimp out over Guinevere being black
>The history of how it happened doesn't matter you guise

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People saving Christians from evil infidels, being the embodiment of the seven virtues and serving their religion by war? No. They're just larpers

crusaders had longswords

Ahmed, I'm sorry, but that existed and knighthoods are real and still exist today.

No, they had arming swords and, at best, hand and a half swords.

Check the K/D ratio of the tenth crusade, sweetie

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Bob, I'm sorry to inform you that most people take these "knights" as seriously as one would react to a Odin worshipper

>War on terror was for religious reasons
Get your facts right sweaty ;)

Knights still exist and that's beautiful!

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Some American chivalric orders have traditions dating back decades, and people here would call them larpers.

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Just because you don't have a culture and traditions doesn't mean others don't.

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larping is larping, friend

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Imagine being this assblasted about knighthoods still being given out today that you spam a thread full of American military symbolism

this is totally not larping.

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I've been obsessed with the score since childhood. Pure kino.

>rootless mutt gets mad about tradition: the thread

but this is

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>he's still making an ass out of himself

no one even knows the real origin of the Order of the Garter, so you could say they were all larping throughout history.
Handing out knighthoods to actors and entertainers doesn't have much to do with the chivalric virtues, in my opinion.

lord of the rings count?

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for me it's el cid

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Congitive dissonance confirmed. I bet those Odin worshipping gaylords aren't larping either
>You don't have a culture
If you're American I hope you realise the irony

Pasolini's Oedipus Rex is a lot like this.

Knights are nerdy an associated with fantastical things like dragons.

now my main point in posting those images was just to poke fun at Americans a bit, but you can't deny that the concept of knighthoods have been eroded A LITTLE when every random actor seems to be a knight of the realm. Plus them not really doing anything cool like riding horses to battle.

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direct continuation of the medieval orders (therefore not LARPing)

Not a direct continuation (therefore LARPing)

You're actually the biggest autist I have ever encountered here. Stay mad that knighthoods still exist.

unhistoric is actually a word

Harakiri unironically
Very poignant

I'm not mad about it, as I said I just wanted to post my american knights compilation.
I do think royalty is a bit embarrassing in a democratic modern society.

The classics are all good but surprisingly a good starter for normies to Samurai faire is the more recent 13 Assassins by Takashi Miike. Give it a watch.

I watched this movie in college, shit's pure kino

jews dont want to celebrate anything christian and this was one of the best times for christianity its also why (((academics))) refer to this time as the (((dark ages)))

Maybe the larp is when he wears normal clothes.

learned men during the Renaissance called it the dark ages because they had such a hard on for roman times.

Knightfall wasn't too bad

Yikes

Beautiful shit

Well you can either watch it and overlook it's flaws and get a comfy knight show or not watch and get no knight kinos, so which you prefer?

This looks ridiculous because he is standing in a field with a spear, this armour would have been worn by a chariot archer, who did not need mobility, just protection.

The hebrew merchants.

What a fool you are. You realize EVERY tradition was invented at some point, and so is "larping" according to dimwitted know-nothings like you?

The Messenger has some fucking awesome battle scenes and clashes. Really underrated. Plus sexy as fuck Mila Jovovich.

B A S E D

No one mentions the hundreds of years before where Muslims kept invading European territory, and committing barbarous acts on small towns and villages.

...

Ronin (1998)

Knights havent been knights for centuries

The nazis were comic book villains

Jews

It would be like Kick-Ass but good and more cunny

>Chivalry, the dominant political ideal of the ruling class, left as great a gap between ideal and practice as religion. The ideal was a vision of order maintained by the warrior class and formulated in the image of the Round Table, nature's perfect shape. King Arthur's knights adventured for the right against dragons, enchanters, and wicked men, establishing order in a wild world. So their living counterparts were supposed, in theory, to serve as defenders of the Faith, upholders of justice, champions of the oppressed. In practice, they were themselves the oppressors, and by the 14th century the violence and lawlessness of men of the sword had become a major agency of disorder. When the gap between ideal and real becomes too wide, the system breaks down. Legend and story have always reflected this; in the Arthurian romances the Round Table is shattered from within. The sword is returned to the lake; the effort begins anew. Violent, destructive, greedy, fallible as he may be, man retains his vision of order and resumes his search.

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FORM RANKS YOU DOGS

I have the webm with music too
streamable.com/v97zl

Jews

The 90s Ivanhoe mini series wasn't bad.

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Ivanhoe is anti-Christian and pro-Jewish. Fuck that shit

>REEE it depicts a Jew as something other than a blood-drinking monster REEEE muh antiwhite sjews REEEEE

Cowboys won. Samurais won. Crusaders failed in their ultimate goal and the failure ultimately lies on the corruption and mismanagement of the Vatican by shitty corrupted (((popes))) who launched the ill fated disorganized campaigns in the first place. Europe as a whole suffered under Vatican leadership and never succeeded until the schism.

read/watch berserk (97), good break down of knights in history, if a bit inaccurate (the breakdown isn't the story's primary focus mind you)

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>Samurais won
>Crusaders were the only knights

Based brainlet

>Crusaders were the only knights
all knights were called onto the crusades retard
>Samurais won
see: Meiji Restoration brainlet

haha I get it

Unapologetically pro-European knight movie somehow made in commie Poland. Portrays Turks as murderous rapists, ends in victory for the Pollacks.

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>who cares, movies don't have to be 100% true to history unless that is the goal of the movie
That "movie" is straight up propaganda.
>Cultivation Theory. Cultivation theory suggests that repeated exposure to television over time can subtly 'cultivates' viewers' perceptions of reality. George Gerbner and Larry Gross theorised that TV is a medium of the socialisation of most people into standardised roles and behaviours.

>it actually represents both sides as morally grey
>has to lie about key events
kys

>the third crusade, which was successful.
Literally only the first was successful, Kingdom of Heaven deals with them losing Jerusalem, the main objective of the first.

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Cringed hard.

Damn imagine being this historically illiterate

I'm from Italy and there's a lot of material where small city states would go to war against each other, it's a shame hollyjeew is too tied with (((them))) to make a movie out of people like Gonzaga, Sforza, Medici

>be christcucks
>take cool honor of becoming an accomplished warrior
>turn it into a gay club
>tons of fags and jews join
>knighthood remembered as a time of ignorance
kek im not even a pagancuck either

I came up with an idea where a solo veteran knight enters a small town and sorts out a dilemma. Like a classic western. Is that an awful idea?