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pilot coke whore is the best character.

> i want ten thousand dollars
> ok. two thousand.
> fine, i take 1750k. may i suck your dick?

muy loco!

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The car chase scene is probably the best thing I've seen this year

I love how there's a shitty recreation of that scene in Baldwin's home theater

First episode was really good,how is the rest?

The white girl they pull over literally recoils when he hits on her and his Latina girl is using him for coke money. Holy shit the state of add zoomers on this board

In this world of staggering perversion and brutality, beauty is the only value, and "Fascism" is the true evil, according to this show. When a character in Neon Demon quips that "beauty is all that matters," I took it as satire. However, it seems this is how Refn really feels. The entire message in that regard seems to be raw animal behavior — good-looking animals rip and tear each other to pieces, fuck them in every conceivable hole, rape or not, incest or not, and the only 'bad guy' all the factions can agree on are the “Nazis”. One of the characters even goes into a monologue about the swastika and its power as a magic symbol.

What i think is really going on here, is that to those people that are truly in Los Angeles, who never leave Los Angeles, who are a part of the "entertainment industry", that his is very much their world, this is very much their experience, and this is very much their fears which they are projecting here.

I'm sure to people who are child traffickers, rapists, casting couchers, mutilators, coke addicts with Cartel friends, that "Nazis" and "white men" would inexplicably and irrationally seem like the "bad guys" and the bringers of Armageddon, because one day, perhaps soon 'right wing death squads' or 'literally Nazis, or "literally Hitler" is going to come for each and every last one of these type of people, and burn them from the earth with a fire.

Clearly though, they are having some sort of existential crisis in LA culture, and are at least cognizant that what they do is eventually going to have a severe consequence for them. Consequently, (and there is even someone literally preaching about 'fly-over states' and they are a rattlesnake that will eventually come for them, because they have been stepped on too many times) somewhere inside they must know they are in fact the evil of the world.

>Clearly though, they are having some sort of existential crisis in LA culture
You don't say...

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Pretty good, but I think Refn's always been an outsider. These are his observations on their system, not his own positions. Look at how Bernie represented the entertainment industry in Drive, or how utterly inhuman the modeling industry was in Neon Demon.

Dude is pretty down on his own field.

Well-written post with many good observations. Usually no one gives me (You)s when I post something like this, but I thought I'd reward you anyway.

Beauty is really all that matters in an ultimate sense. However, the Hollyweirdos like to defile beauty for the sick sadomasochistic sense of it. Their brains are different from ours. They experience emotion as a roller coaster of pain and pleasure and of uppers and downers, quite like heroin junkies or women.

Pretty sure Refn is one of the few actual examples of a crypto-fascist.

No doubt about it. He exposed the jew in Drive. He punched at hollywood satanism in Neon Demon and at this point his one inch of revealing pizzagate to the masses. The humorous and obviously satirical use of nazi salutes, speeches on fascism and swastikas, and the underlying Nieztschean distaste for post-modern society ("the last man") are just the cherry on top.

Heil Refn.

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As some user put it, Too Old To Die Young is basically TP:TR by Rockstar Games.

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I feel like a brainlet, but what the fuck was with all the Nazi symbolism? Was that supposed to be how the LA elite view rural communities?

This guy gets it.

In a satirical way, yes.

Nietzsche's criticism of the last man is not a criticism of post-modern society.

A realo hero

It actually is. Nietzsche was a prophet. He predicted the social and ethical collapse that was to happen once the old ideologies crumbled and died with modernism.

Yes. Anyone who's not a reprobate Libertine is a Nazi to them. Why did you think they sperged out about DRUMPF so hard for so long? Because he managed to rally the rural and suburban whites and made them chant things and feel like a cohesive group with interests and goals. It's literally the apocalypse for them, our society is crumbling etc etc. It's how they see their world.

white nationalism is an inherently latino/hispanic cultural tradition

the more hispanic LA becomes, the more racist. this is not a reaction to immigrants, the immigrants are bringing it with them

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>sequel to blade runner
explain lmao

Did anyone else notice the Jews laughing maniacally during the reenactment of the crucifixion of Jesus?

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its only appeal is cinematography but it is a tv show

>"Lock her up!"
Absolutely fucking based.

No, you're wrong. The last man could be anyone who seeks stability over glory, which would include the Amish. Not everything Nietzsche criticized could be summarized as "muh marxism". He had a fair number of criticisms of his contemporaries and Christianity, as well as those who were opposed to Christianity.

I downloaded it and watched the first episode on the recommendation of Yea Forums and once again I was rused. It's a steaming pile of shit.

absolute kino. Martin is so fucking based, it all went downhill after he died. only thing I was looking forward to was Viggo BTFOing the spics but it didn't happen

it is like the writer gave up after his death

Viggo kills the trailer camp consisting of an exaggerated collage of "all that's wrong with america" in the eyes of Hollywood's elite (like rural flyover people, religious people, to literal nazis!!!).

Viggo also only has one eye. He has no depth perception. I feel like this is telling, as it means that for Viggo to have such hatred and bloodlust towards the trailer camp he has to be "blinded" and view all of those people on the same level. Meaning he can't differentiate between actual right wing extremist and people who just hold a conservative view.

Too bad for you, buddy. You're now legally obligated to finish what you started.

I'm not talking about marxism. Despite what Peterson says, post-modernism is NOT marxism.
Nietzsche was a futurist. He was talking to a crowd that couldn't understand him, about events that hadn't happened yet:
>"The event itself is far too great, too distant, too remote from the multitude's capacity for comprehension even for the tidings of it to be thought of as having arrived as yet."

You're just part of that crowd. Re-read Zarathustra.

Yeah ill probably give it a second go. I had a cold over the weekend and was quite tired watching the first episode. Kinda tuned out during the scene Miles character meets his gfs father. It was creepy.

This is why you don't have a job.

Man, if I told you my job you wouldn't believe me.

a couple of trailer park niggers also showed up in the scene if I remember correctly

Being a NEET isn't a job, moarpheus.

>I feel like this is telling, as it means that for Viggo to have such hatred and bloodlust towards the trailer camp he has to be "blinded" and view all of those people on the same level.
I think you're on to something. Remember that Jenna Malone's character told him about the trailer park. Maybe the eye thing has do do with how he can't see why someone like her would want the trailer park destroyed. I like your comment about depth perception.

i want to believe he is that sophisticated but he comes and say that he stop filming because there was no more money and i cannot take anything on this show very seriously.

but the cop chief talks about jung and synchronicity. i dont know if there is a deeper meaning or if it was just his own agent cooper kind of guy.

the detectives are all some sort of lynch thing, but done by a retard with an autistic sense of humor.

Do you agree with Jay, Yea Forums?

Forgot pic

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>Nietzsche's criticism of the last man is not a criticism of post-modern society.
Nietzsche described hipsters so close it was scary.
He predicted their obsession with feminization and finding their spirituality in material entertainment even.

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The thing is, his other movies actually have some degree of sophistication. I have no fucking idea what he was trying to do with this.

brainlet

You copy and pasted a line directly from the Wikipedia page for "Last Man," dipshit. Stop pretending you have even one iota of a fucking clue of what you're talking about, you pseudo-intellectual ponce.

How did he feel about the rest of the show? I need to know so that I can have an opinion

>It’s a ‘Jay watched something that wasn’t capeshit and was bored to tears by the lack of quips’ episode
Shocking. Dude is King of Plebs. He once tried watching a Best Picture frontrunner on the day of the Academy Awards so he could LARP like he’s part of real film discussions and had the same reaction

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Three billboards was terrible though

Look at this triggered moron. He actually thinks he's responding to the same poster itt

>You copy and pasted a line directly from the Wikipedia page for "Last Man," dipshit
WTF no I didn't you creepy little douchebag hipster last man

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Three Billboards WAS a tonal nightmare, Jay is totally correct here.

>durr i know how to use vpn
No one randomly white knights another man, you stupid fat NEET faggot.

I’m on episode 4 right now and I don’t think I can deal with the unnecessary length of absolutely everything. I like slow movies, I like Refn, but Jesus almighty a slug can probably travel across the Atlantic Ocean faster than this fucking show progresses.
Does the pace speed up after episode 4?

Three Billboards sucks, moron

Episode 5 is probably the highlight, so stick with it

Gosling isn't in this show moron

the major problem with the Mexicans subplot was that almost all of the actors were awful, Alfonso was based tho

heuung-heuung

It seems like every character has their own style of scenes. The mexican stuff is really slow, viggo is more straight forward and martin is a bit of both depending on who he is in a scene with.

So you’re just going to ignore all the slow moving esoteric stuff Jay has recommended and loved because he didn’t like that terrible Three Billboards movie?

I can't tell if he's trying to warn us maybe like a Kubrick with Eyes Wide Shut, or if he's just so consumed by the LA pedosatanists that he identifies with and enjoys this shit now. But I also haven't finished the series. Judging by his previous comments around the time of Neon Demon about everyone wanting to be the little girl inside them, etc. though... I don't have much hope.

go back to plebbit newfags

Three Billboards that it was so much more than what it was (straight up burning garbage), though.

it's unironically a movie to appease redditors tho innit? i mean from what i remember and didn't forcefully remove from my brain after watching it. i remember the only thing I liked about it was that Rockwell was in it.

Brilliant rebuttal

There's definitely some occult symbolism

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Best Amazon original so far.

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Even ignoring that Martin McDonagh only makes finely crafted Kino and that 3 Billboards is no exception, let’s pretend for a second that you tastelets - who almost certainly haven’t seen it and are just white knighting your simulated friend - are right and that it’s awful... Does that at all justify a supposed film commentator ignoring one of the most celebrated and decorated films of the year all throughout award season and up until the very day of the Academy Awards when he feels left out because he hasn’t seen anything nominated except Get Out (which he loved)? While the whole time he’s there opening weekend recommending every sorry entry of capeshit and NuWars that Disney shits out?
Lmao. There’s no damage controlling this, shills

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calm down, McDonagh
I watched it with 4 other NEETs who have spent the last 20 years doing nothing but watching good movies and playing only the most refined vidyas, and we all thought it was trash that got lost in its own plot

>Plot
And there it is, Lmao. It’s a movie about the performances, characters, and dialogue crafted by perhaps the most celebrated living Irish playwright - the plot is absolutely not the focus, as anyone even passingly familiar with merely this /genre/ of movie could have told you. Lurk don’t LARP, user

Let me see you smile one last time Yea Forums.

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This shit is just too fucking slow.
And yes, it feels like Twin Peaks TR without the magic.
I'll try keep watching it.
Fuck I've seen festival arthouse films with faster "kino" "slooow" scenes.

>i like slow movies
Like?

>the plot is absolutely not the focus
well that's a relief because it was fucking trash just like the almost the rest of the movie
it was so bad I almost thought for a second that it didn't even care about its own redditshit plot. that would have been embarrassing. y'know, since the rest of it was also shit with barely any redeemable moments unlike most of his/your other works.

I dropped it after Billy Baldwin started doing coke snorts while growling like a Tiger. What utter shit.

Performances, characters and dialogue are informed by plot. If there's no plot, there's no emotional weight to any of the images seen on the screen, only the pretense of emotion that pseuds feign understanding of for social acceptance.

This has got to be the cringiest shit I've ever read.

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Liked this more than The Return, at least it looked good and wasn't completely pointless.

it really is funny how much Refn is mocking the stereotypical LA lefty. from the cartoony cops (who are actually portrayed fairly kindly and wholesome) to Nell's dad (Drumpf!!)

yea, the dads creepy yet it's clear he really loves his daughter and the love is returned. same with the detectives, they are a fucking homicide department yet they are all portrayed as a happy go lucky family (cult) that takes Teller in from the get go, they are also Christcucks and diverse. the fascism is just used as a cheap gag to bait people

Refn can't keep getting away with this

Your debate is weak and now you're sperging about being bullied by multiple anons who are "one vpn".

t. Last Man

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it's understandable why you wouldn't want to continue. refn is just indulgently doing high production shitposting using Bezo's money for most of the series lol

maybe if you keep this in mind you could enjoy it

>And yes, it feels like Twin Peaks TR without the magic.
Without "magic" is better desu

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>the fascism is just used as a cheap gag to bait people
Then what's with all the nazi symbolism outside of the police department?

It was good but very uneven, definitely not the best TV show or miniseries done by a single director.

Im 6 episodes in. It's very clear to me that the first episode was the worst by a long margin (though I still loved the majority of it).
I'm surprised by all the hate the second episode gets though since I thought it was fantastic.

Also, I like how episode 4 and 5 actually work pretty well as a standalone film and can see why he chose to show them at Cannes. But yeah, possibly the best tv show/film I've seen this year

>growls at you

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>I am not a crook!

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*pans slowly to the right*

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him and the lieutenant are hands down my favorite characters

>HRHRRRHRHRHRHRRRHRHRHRR
m.youtube.com/watch?v=FdYWOqHGHA4
Be the tiger.

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What was your reaction, Yea Forums?

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I didn't give a shit about his girlfriend dying but I was pissed that he died. When he pulled his gun out I was expecting him to shoot the two spics

>Hollyweirdos like to defile beauty for the sick sadomasochistic sense of it.
I disagree. They do it because they lack real creativity and intelligent thoughts. Edginess is always the number one, go to crutch, for dimwits and posers. It's very easy to do. The world of art is loaded with these people.

Watching the series on Amazon it skips the end credit sequence in 5 seconds. This episode the skip button didn't come on for at least 30 seconds maybe, I thought I was mistaken that there were 10 episodes when there was only 8!? I thought that was the finale and had a pit in my stomach but then the skip icon came up. Honestly after watching the other 2 episodes it felt like the better way to have ended the show.
>Spits.

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It's a pretty fantastic show. It's one of the most beautiful, yet also one of the most bleak portrayals of modern America. An uncompromising look at the Wasteland. Cold and cruel and violent. It's haunting.

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Refn go to back to playing magic cards with Jodo

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there's certainly more nazi stuff but it's all still so halfbaked. i was hoping for more from the alex jones radio preacher that Viggo listens to, especially since Teller encounters him from following the porno guys. but it goes nowhere

Now that's what I'd call KINO

>DUUUUURRRRR you didn't like movie me like, so you reddit

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I’m sure I’m/he’s crying all over my/his BAFTAs and Golden Globes while you LARP on 4channel as having seen a film without a post credits scene, user

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I like this. You good, mate

The eye is a recurring theme in Refn's work too.

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McDonagh is a faggot and so are you.

Yeah, man, he's like totally trolling everyone. He just BTFO'd those libturds.

Oh, and the scene in the ep9, where Viggo's mother eats his eye, what was that?

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This is like something straight from LiveLeak

You’ve never even seen In Bruges, capeshitter

Why did Martin kill Janey's father?

This might be a stretch, but I think the film they were watching had something to do with it. It's literally just the opening scene from episode 1, except less stylized.

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Maybe Martin feared that the father knew something?

The father was beginning to chew him out for what he did to his daughter and I think he killed him in fear that he was going to try to blackmail him or something.

But the film needs to change reels.

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The entire show is like Drive, but instead of just the main character being autistic, everyone is.

Make way for infinitely less pretentious and more entertaining horror mystery kino.

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Yeah, but I also think it's a way for Refn to subvert or deconstruct tropes from genre films like police crime thrillers. The white cop is Martin, obviously.

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Absolute garbage.

The first episode is over NINTEY MINUTES LONG. There is a fucking 5-10 second pause between EVERY LINE OF DIALOGUE.

I could cut the episode down to 30 minutes easily and nothing of value would be lost. How the fuck can a director be this autistic??? Even Tarantino and Kubrick weren't this bad.

pretty sure those are boomers
zoomers are actually really based

Ending on epsode 8 would have been kino. Instead we got refn playing out his sexual fantasies with 2 mexicans.

Not sure but she immediately dies. In neon demon it was about absorbing their essense, maybe it was too much for her?

He sexualized his own daughter, and disrespected martin.

But that was fake eye, maybe its fakeness is the reason why she died?

What do Kubrick and Tarantino have to do with Refn? Just because they don't do it, that doesn't mean Refn can't.

user is a retard. Ignore people who post or argie like him.

So who DIDN'T fuck Jesus' mom?

for gods sake fuck off nic

What the fuck was that ending

dude we ran out of money lmao, here's your monologue bro

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god damn that blood splatter looks like a you-tube video effect.

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I'm gonna give a drive-by post just to say it's incredible.
I'm only 2 episodes in, but it's not hyperbole to say this redefines television. The second episode is considerably better than the first too, imo.
Consider the "golden age of television" circa 2010 roughly. Critics and audiences were super impressed because television finally seemed to care about shot composition, lighting, impressive set-pieces etc etc. Sure, there were shows like Sopranos, The Wire and the rest that were considered great. But they were far from the rule or the norm. We started getting a lot of shows that drew in audiences in the same way films did with the same sort of spectacle.
(I'm talking about Dexter, Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Masters of Sex, Boardwalk Empire etc)
But the thing is, all those shows were still very much television shows. They still followed the same formula of dialogue dialogue dialogue, action, dialogue dialogue. They just told more interesting stories with bigger budgets.

Too Old To Die Young is impressive because it goes so much further. It's not unusual to have a ten second static shot of a guy leaning against a wall with flashing lights and almost no sound. The sort of thing you normally only see in indie arthouse films, you're consistently seeing in this show.
I can't quite call it a 13-hour film as Refn does because it still divides too neatly into episodes. That is, each episode has a clear beginning, middle and end. But it's definitely not anything I've ever seen done in television before.

10/10 refn moments all through out the series

>winning awards from circlejerkers means you're incapable of producing a miss
This is why Obama is the best, most peaceful US president of all time.
Fartin McHacknaugh should stick to being a sidekick developing characters for people that can make good movies. Perhaps he could make himself useful and have the cunnystains dry-cleaned off Refn's suits in the downtime.

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How could you miss it

If you give up you're going miss all the twists

I'm pretty sure the show is pro wall from trump

Did you hear the filth coming from his mouth?