>To understand White’s findings better, a bit of background on his survey is necessary. The previous phase of his research found that there are three main types of Star Wars fans: Prequel Skeptics (fans of the original and sequel trilogies, but not the prequels), Saga Lovers (who rate the entire franchise favorably), and TLJ Disowners (who dislike Star Wars: The Last Jedi).
>By asking survey respondents a series of targeted questions that determined whether they demonstrated "hostile sexism" and "benevolent sexism," White found that TLJ Disowners expressed more sexist beliefs than Prequel Skeptics and Saga Lovers. TLJ Disowners also reported more conservative politics and anti-PC sentiments than Prequel Skeptics and Saga Lovers.
>More broadly, White found that Star Wars fans who demonstrated sexist and anti-PC beliefs were more likely to enjoy the original and prequel trilogies, but less likely to enjoy the sequel trilogy. White also discovered that the more sexist and anti-PC a Stars Wars fan is, the less likely they are to like the characters Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo, Rey, and Rose Tico, who have faced the brunt of sexist critique leveled at the sequel trilogy.
>TLJ Disowners >Prequel Skeptics >Saga Lovers I don’t have a söy enough image for this
Jackson Davis
God is dead and we have killed him.
Jonathan Ortiz
>Prequel Skeptics (fans of the original and sequel trilogies, but not the prequels), Saga Lovers (who rate the entire franchise favorably), and TLJ Disowners (who dislike Star Wars: The Last Jedi). What the hell is this shit?
Jace Parker
So basically this proves that right-wing people have objectively better taste?
Grayson Watson
>The previous phase of his research found that there are three main types of Star Wars fans Which is laking the biggest group, people who like the original three and see that the rest are soulless cash grabs
Jaxson Gonzalez
>What the hell is this shit? Your brain on mousebucks
Chase Torres
>White
*yawn*
when they finna tell us what black think?
*sips tea*
Andrew Cook
What must it be like to be anti-intellectual and a puesdo in the year of our Lord, 2019? You'd think the advent of the internet would have killed you people off.
Carson Rodriguez
>the ideological wing that can't/won't produce art >has better taste
Eli Cooper
TLJ was shit because Ryan Johnson tried so hard to "subvert expectations" that he came out with a shitty nonsensical story with no satisfying resolutions. He didn't just ignore JJ's plotholes, he wiped his ass with them
>WHO IS REI??? >oh shes nobody
>WHO IS SNOKE??? >he's nobody too
>LUKE SKYWALKER IS COMING BACK >but then he's a massive douchebag for no reason >he stands up against the first order machines >oh wait he's a force ghost >wait again, the amount of energy to project a force ghost somehow killed him
>
Xavier Rodriguez
I bet you loved TLJ, didn't you?
Luke Brooks
It wasn't great, it was fine. I don't have a tism' fit as if "it was da worstest moobie ever arggh" like some underage.
Lincoln Lopez
>I measured hostile sexism with two statements: “Most women interpret innocent remarks or acts as being sexist,” and “Feminists are making unreasonable demands of men.” This guy sure didn't have agenda
Owen Perry
This is the same argument disguised as research....they didn't like it coz they is sexist.
These people cant get their heads around someone just not liking it because they thought it sucked balls.
Lucas Roberts
YAAAAAAAAASSS
Evan Fisher
I like how they describe the lack of enthusiasm for feminsim being shoehorned onto tlj as sexism
Benjamin Walker
>It wasn't great No, you thought it was great, and your side of politics is responsible for that movie. Science proves it.
Carter Reyes
>how to turn nerds who just wanted to watch starwars into conservashits it's like a real time manual, what a load of shit who could take this seriously
Dylan Wood
>I'm on the left that means I'm an artist and have good taste not how it works
Matthew Ortiz
Why is it beyond belief that sexist people exist? Do you frequent this board at all, newfag?
Brandon Miller
>they dont have a category for those who think all the sequels are fanfiction trash
Dylan Walker
>tism'
Mason Gutierrez
>Prequel Skeptics (fans of the original and sequel trilogies, but not the prequels), are there such people?
Luke Hill
IT S U C K S U C K S
Jordan Gomez
I thought Rey violently shitting herself and using the stench to induce dream visions to guide her forward was a pretty unique and interesting scene.
Isaac Jackson
>muh politics get in the way of movies You're a colossal faggot and I just gave you my opinion. I didn't think it was great, I thought it was servicable
Ryder Ross
Define “sexist beliefs”.
Kayden Ramirez
Oh my God who still cares about this fucking movie enough to do a study
Mason Rodriguez
They forget OT purists, OT sceptics who don't like ROTJ, people who like the OT and ROTS but don't hold much love for TPM and AotC and they don't even factor in those who for some inexplicable reason love Rogue One.
Oliver Cruz
Good thing I didn't say that.
Brayden Long
>it wasn't great, it was fine. I don't have a tism' [sic] fit as if "it was da worstest moobie ever arggh" like some underage.
Agreeing with those two statements are hardly indicative of hostile sexism.
Mason Howard
Sequel trilogy sucks.
Have sex, gain height, take a shower, hit the weights, get a clue.
Lucas Bennett
>I didn't think it was great Science disagrees.
Carter Thompson
>this thread man, you russian trolls dont even get weekends off?
Juan Howard
You did, you are implying an entire ideology of people can't make art and pretending like your ideology can. You are making vast generalizations and hoping to get group credit for something you will never accomplish. Continue having shit taste and retarded ideas though.
Jacob King
I'm not sure what you're even arguing about anymore. I didn't think TLJ was great, you keep trying to graft some stereotype position on me like some assmad turbofaggot.
Nathan Bailey
Bear in mind other surveys show liberals (especially younger) are more likely to think representation is far more important than merit or substance. So them tolerating crap as long as it has tokens in it is logical
there is no reason NOT to fuck as many people as you please to. morality, demurity, chastity, virginity are all spooks. be smart and you won't get an std or unwanted pregnancy. there's literally no consequence. if you want a few extra years to slut around before getting a husband just keep in shape and take care of your skin. the majority of women are obese trash who age themselves 10+ years. a well kept 30 year old looks better than an absolute slob 22 year old. by the time he learns your real age he'll already be hooked and it won't matter. "ah baby you're perfect, god you're so hot and fuck so good, but this number on this piece of paper is too high so I'm afraid I have to leave you and be single, bitter, and miserably lonely for another 5 years, by which time i'll be fat and balding and no woman will want me." yeah, nah.
further. i've fucked tons of married men and their wives quite obviously don't know jack shit. you can cheat on your partner very easily. again, have safe sex, no stds or pregnancies, and there is no possible consequence.
men only know your "number" if you tell them.
reminder that if men were as desired as women, they'd be even bigger sluts than we are. anyone saying female promiscuity is "bad" is bitter grapes personified. if you COULD fuck, you would. the term is "incel" not "volcel." if incels could become chad tomorrow and fuck 1000 people they would in a heartbeat.
>m-muh roast
there's no difference taking one dick 200 times or 200 dicks one time, or even a dildo 200 times. either way, that's not how anything works, you retarded incel mongrels. my pussy is picture perfect.
Jaxson Bell
imagine SEETHING this hard (lol)
Levi Hill
>Left leaning liberal society has "terrible ideas" I'm sorry you don't like the entire West, Ahmed.
Brody Sanchez
A jewish redefinition in which there is no way to express disappointment or dislike of either TFA or the Disney wars as a whole.
Carter James
You know these journos post here, right user?
Elijah King
It’s only going to get better faggot.
Welcome to the end, the worst part?
THE RIDE NEVER ENDS
Carter Long
>muh raciseximisohitler Keep on spinning bolsheviks.
Dylan Mitchell
Star Wars has always been shit.
Every Star Wars movie is shit.
Jason Moore
It was bloated, long, and everything most of the cast did had no impact or value to the story as a whole
Tyler Williams
>Gives lukewarm opinion >"LOL WHY ARE YOU SEETHING!?"
Jack Edwards
I'm specifically talking about you
Owen Harris
Whats your favorite sub?
John Cooper
incels will hate you but you're right
Ayden Powell
I don't love Rogue One but it's the only remotely workable or serviceable nu-Wars shit in the same sense as people look at ROTS. It's the Revenge of the Sith of nu-Wars.
Logan Thomas
You don't even know what my beliefs even are, obvious stormnigger.
Lucas Powell
Apology accepted but you still need to get replaced.
Elijah Morales
>puesdo
Benjamin Sullivan
>he thinks marxist biased studies and leftist universities do resesrch, science or anything other than pushing propaganda And you dare call others "anti-intellectual"
Brayden Reyes
I do based on your post of vast generalizations and pretending to have superior tastes to people because of the ideology you claim to be a part of. That is basically everything I need to know about a do nothing faggot.
Lucas Thompson
>the ideological wing that can't/won't produce art >You don't even know what my beliefs even are sure thing leftynigger
Cameron Torres
>Now, according to a survey conducted by social scientist Mark H. White II, there may now be tangible proof after he found that Star Wars fans that tend to have sexist and conservative beliefs and a negative attitude towards political correctness also tend to dislike Star Wars: The Last Jedi. This is social scientist Mark H White btw
>can't express an opinion without "HURR DURR EVERYWUN ELZ TALX LYK LE DUMB-DUMB-POO-POO-HEAD" Calm down, take a break from this site, and work of improving your own life user. This isn't a good rut for you to stay in.
Luke Mitchell
'researchers', I'm sure. Funny how this sexism didn't matter with TFA. Only really did when they made a truly terrible film
Benjamin Lopez
I hated the first disney star wars so I didn't watch the TLJ so I'm not a sexist!
Lincoln Williams
Is anyone here really gonna deny hating woman or being anti-pc?
Henry Bell
>What must it be like to be anti-stalinist and a puesdo in the year of our Lenin, 1986?
It can't just be a poorly written and executed movie, WTF!?
Logan Ward
As demonstrated by this post, the subject still desperately tries to explain their inexplicable fondness of an objectively trash movie with undead CGI renditions of beloved characters, a boring story auf cardboard protagonists that don't deserve the label. Next, they will cite the less than a minute long scene hastily added during extensive reshoots of a man clad in a Darth Vader Halloween costume waltzing down a hallway while Force pushing egghead wearing rebel soldiers into the walls with lazy wirework as being worthy of the prize of admission.
Austin Harris
Like taking your political hot takes from redpills makes you any better than a lefty lol. You're cognitive dissonance is showing
Eli Edwards
>implying both the prequels and the sequels aren't trash
Brayden Sullivan
Products of no less than like 7 decades of a focused and concerted propaganda effort to undermine the west.
I thought the Vader scene was overhyped shit.
Jayden Cooper
>The Left Wing isn't a wide spectrum
Luis Ramirez
Studies like these are horseshit and the reporting even more so, look at this: >By asking survey respondents a series of targeted questions that determined whether they demonstrated "hostile sexism" and "benevolent sexism," Okay so basically they ask shit like "women who sleep around a lot are whores" that's hostile sexism, and then "men should hold the door for women" that's benevolent sexism. These questions are obviously TURBO fucking loaded with bias according the who does the survey. But that isn't even the core problem. >White found that TLJ Disowners expressed more sexist beliefs than Prequel Skeptics and Saga Lovers. So basically it's not even fucking quantifying the difference in hostile and benevolent sexism. The journalist is saying that they polled dudes, called them sexist and then wrote about if they like movies or not. Maybe the article explains their reasoning better but I am not clicking a link to some shit rag.
dude like, I'm an enlightened centrist, like, these guys over here are the same as these guys over there... horseshoes and stuff...
you're too dumb to know how dumb you are
Evan Wright
>muh marxist maymays from /pol/ that are repackaged Goebbels pamphlets
Gabriel Howard
>killed you people off. Not as much as you people killing science.
Blake Myers
>42% in even the best-case scenario modern humans have always been retarded
can't wait for this world to be re-baptized in fire
Juan Morris
Star Wars fans are objectively the biggest cancer on Yea Forums right now.
Jack Hall
>don't worry goys, based gen z will save us from idiotic boomers and degenerate millenials >oh shi- take the blackpill
Alexander Stewart
>Prequel Skeptics (fans of the original and sequel trilogies, but not the prequels) Stopped reading there. Those people don't actually exist. No one that is a fan of the OT likes the ST.
Mason Cooper
>if you don't like TLJ, it's because you don't like lefty politics literally admitting that TLJ is propaganda
>THIS is a 10/10 Aryan specimen according to white people No WONDER it flopped
Daniel Kelly
Isn't that the same "research" that was made right after TLJ by an author was a fan of Rian Johnson?
Jose Kelly
>Luke sucking alien milk straight from the alien tits >Snoke was just a nobody who got killed easy as pie >Leia's force powers emerge to allow to her literally fly through space like Superman
These are things that have nothing to do with women, persons of color, or who the president is.
When I saw these details under spoiler tags on this very board, there was no doubt in my mind that I was being trolled and fucked with. How the fuck did anybody think these were good ideas worthy of a great movie? How the fuck does anybody think these are good ideas that reflect a person's bigotry if they don't agree?
Kevin Martinez
sure, it's comprised of lots of different groups that want to ruin lots of different aspects of society.
Asher Diaz
There are only two genders though
Charles Perry
>phonepost >Wojak >söy The holy trinity of newfag cancer.
I'm the only person on Yea Forums who loved TLJ. AMA.
Jaxon Phillips
Only basedboys dislike onions.
Ian Price
>NOTHING IS OUR FAULT
>IT IS YOU: THE CONSUMER, WHO IS WRONG.
Oliver Smith
Survey-based research is the most basic bitch variety of research there is. If you think drawing conclusions from peoples’ responses to non-standardized surveys (using nebulous non-scientific terms like ‘benevolent sexism’) is somehow “intellectual” then you are either underaged or severely retarded.
More than half of American gen z are themselves various types of useless minority, so obviously they'll want diversity. That probably skews the results somewhat.
God you’re an obnoxious limp dick faggot. Of course you fucking losers never reply to anybody though
Hunter Wright
>why doesn’t the first order use the death star tech to destroy the raddish >you’re a right winger, dude
Austin Fisher
If you were artistically minded "it was fine" actually means it's bad. It was mediocre and didn't really inspire you or evoke any worthwhile reaction, therefore it was boring and not worth your time. But more than likely you're just a corporate cheerleader
>you guys better stop calling Rey a Mary Sue or I’m going to have to teach you a lesson in manners No way that’s not a parody
Matthew Moore
For me, I only like the original trilogy. Both the prequels and the sequels are dog shit.
Andrew Bennett
>Disney calling consumers racists and sexists What else is new?
Matthew Diaz
Try again faggot
Dominic Smith
Add me to your discord senpai
Brayden Ramirez
Don’t have to limp dick lmao
Zachary Barnes
And yet they made 5 billion dollars in 2019 so far
Connor Cooper
They got the three types of fans wrong >True Fans (enjoy 1-6) >Angry Boomers (only 4-6) >Faggots and preteen girls (anyone who thinks 7 or 8 are remotely watchable)
Jaxson Campbell
>You aren't allowed to think a movie was ok otherwise you are my strawman goofy libcuck stereotype
Benjamin Long
this is satire, right?
Jaxon Hall
>m-maybe if I say it again it's gonna work That's pathetic even for a faggot such as yourself.
Carter Price
Keep coping faggot. You got btfo by multiple people for your cringy post up there
Bentley Allen
Yea Forums hates all diversity, including diversity of thought.
You're not allowed to enjoy these things, user.
Christian Brown
>defending some Jewish abortion with the main message of ‘fuck the other Star Wars movies and heroes, new shit better. CONSUME CONSUME CONSUMER’ Kys idiot
Adrian Turner
>if you don't like this corporate product you are a sexist :O >better consume to mend your ways
Noah Robinson
Nah its that the argument is over fucking starwars dog, thats why you're such a faggot.
Benjamin Lewis
Nobody who honestly thinks there is marxist plot in academia is smart, user.
Lucas Anderson
Not surprising when you buy bucketloads of tickets to your own movie like with Captain Marvel.
Adrian Roberts
Keep those gen z buzzwords coming faggot, it just proves that you're a little underage mongrel.
Daniel Cooper
Thinking something was "ok" isn't really enjoying it, it just means you were able to sit through the duration and forget about it afterwards
Samuel Scott
I am leftwing and say fuck Disney Wars
Nolan King
Hey I’m not the pussy whining about right leaning people on the internet. Fucking freak lmao
Brody Clark
I appreciate some aspects of the movie. What Yea Forums doesn't like is being told what to think although they bandwagon almost as much as everyone else does.
Charles Hall
He's a goofy libcuck stereotype because of the other shit he said, and he's a fucking retard because he thought TLJ was "fine" in any way.
Jayden Moore
>>It pays to keep an open mind >>but not so open your brains fall out.
Not anymore. If you don't want rampant communism in the United States you aren't left wing.
Jackson Price
Why are you so mad? Impotent?
Jacob Young
>If you aren't a /pol/tard then you are a communist Extremists are something else.
Leo Hall
Lol, you just cry about the left lmao. Same shit, different sides.
Charles Bailey
it's the ideological wing that spends money on movies, so they dictate the taste.
Nicholas Gray
>there are three main types of Star Wars fans: söyböys (fans of the original and sequel trilogies, but not the prequels), nostalgiafags (who rate the entire franchise favorably), and normies (who dislike Star Wars: The Last Jedi). Fixed
Adam Ramirez
T. The wall
Caleb Miller
>whether they demonstrated "hostile sexism" and "benevolent sexism," LMAO
SEXISM EITHER WAY
BASED SEXISM, FEMINISTS ON SUICIDE WATCH
Cameron Rogers
what about people who like the original trilogy, are okay with the prequels and dislike all the Disney star wars movies except for rogue one which actually has a few decent star warsy moments?
Chase Price
That's not fixed because the first group doesn't exist.
Carter Reyes
>Coming from a political party that literally sinks billions into climate change denial
Jace Bell
There’s no crying going on bud, I’m wondering why you faggots are always so passive aggressive His dick doesn’t work
Owen Clark
Oh Carl
Xavier Rogers
No one denies climate change. The right denies that climate change is in any significant way affected by humans.
Adam Martin
So are you alt-right if you don't like Disney Star Wars?
Benjamin Martinez
Yeah I'm mad at faggots like you ruining this place
Camden Young
It's probably because your socially retarded, but go off user.
Jackson Parker
women are fine I guess. I mostly hate niggers
John Baker
The biggest problem isn't the intended subversion itself IMO. Rian shat the bed because he tried to subvert something he didn't fully understand. He doesn't understand Luke, doesnt understand the rebels' motivations, doesn't understand warfare and military strategy, doesn't undertand how the Force works... he doesn't even understand how physics work in this universe. Apparently, he only liked Star Wars on a superficial level and it shows.
Angel Martin
>It was the RUSSIANS! >It was the ALT-RIGHT! >It was the RACISTS! >It was WHITE MEN! >It was MISOGYNISTS! >It was ANGRY NERDS! >It was TRUMP SUPPORTERS! >It was PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE CHANGE! >It was /POL/! >It was Yea Forums! >It was Yea Forums! >It was REDDIT! >It was WEEABOOS! >It was PREQUEL DEFENDERS! >It was BOOMERS! >It was MILLENNIALS! >It was DISNEY HATERS! >It was REY HATERS! >It was ROSE HATERS! >It was HOLDO HATERS! >It was the HOLIDAY SEASON! >"People hated Empire back then, too!" >"Dividing the fanbase was intentional!" >"It did something DIFFERENT!!!" >"I love how it subverted expectations!" >"It made me rethink my views on life!" >"It emphasized muh diversity/inclusiveness/feminist quota!" >"It was an 'intellectual' film!" >"It made some people uncomfortable. GOOD!" >"It was expected to not make much money anyway!" >"lulz it's just a movie turn your brain off!" This is the most damage controlled Star Wars movie I've seen since any of the Prequels. The Disney shills are in desperation mode, and it's hilarious what lengths they'll go to. I haven't seen this much shilling since Hillary's failed campaign. No amount of self-reassurance will EVER "fix" this movie. It was a complete abomination, and the defenders know that deep down in their hearts. Disney's nuWars was made to pander to SJWs, and it is this very pandering that will ultimately destroy the franchise at some point in the near future. Deal with it.
Evan Green
Then get off the internet.
Camden Barnes
Then stop bitching and moaning about anything right leaning. Dumb nigger
I was here first, you fuck off faggot. I'm right leaning, you're a gen z faggot larping as right wing because of memes.
Joshua Bennett
>implying you're not an equality cultist whose only """"arguments"""" are "you're a racist/sexist/whatever" Before you respond, I remind you that """"argument"""" was the basis of your entire post.
Carter Peterson
>ARRGGGHHH JEWS
Austin Morris
reminder: anything that offends right wing incel snowflakes is "bad because it's political" and "they are forcing politics into our movies"
Sneed Says who faggot? You have absolutely nothing to go on to infer any of that. Schizo >I was here first LOL you absolutely weren’t. Faggot But hey, I’m glad I’m making it a worse place for you. Glad you’re seething
Alexander White
Do you hear how ridiculous you sound? Fucking gatekeeping tard
Owen Gomez
He didn't mention racist/sexist at all.
Mason Carter
Been here since 2008 bud, and I'm not even 30. But as I said, go off.
Jose Gomez
Its amazing to realize so many people literally will watch or love any film if it has a black person or tranny in it, even if the whole thing is garbage or portrayals of said minorities are shit-tier
Logan Rivera
low energy
Liam Wilson
>LOL you absolutely weren’t. Faggot Yeah right. Post some more Gen z words like "lmao" at the end of the sentence and shit like "seething" faggot, it sure as fuck doesn't make you come off as a 2010s tourist. Fucking retard.
Zachary Baker
Post yfw you haven't watch any Disney Wars since seeing the piece of shit TFA once.
So, let's get this straight, the entire study is based on very, very particular views of what is 'racist' and 'sexist' and the idea that anything conservative is basically racist/sexist. and they associated that with disliking the new films, whose problems are core to their writing and directing, with the acting/casting of the actors having very little to do with the problems surrounded the writing/directing.... which would remain problems regardless of who was cast in any of the given roles. They could recast the entire set of new movies with straight white males, but leave the writing and directing the same, and all the same issues would remain.
Rey would still need trained, something they could five with a two minute training montage Rose would still be annoying and pointless Finns role in TLJ would still be a pointless distraction and Finn/Poes relationship in TFA would still need better set up and developed in order to justify the emotional reunion scene Holdos plan would still rely on not telling people things that would actually make them do things to help rather than hinder her. The holdo manuever would still break star wars canon requiring a complete retroactive rewrite of all preceding star wars content ever made canon in order for it to make sense. Kylo Ren would still be a whiny broody waste incapable of fulfilling the role of villain. THe pacing of TFA would still be too fast and leave too little room for character development TLJs obsession with subverting expectations would still be at the expense of its own story and the overall story of star wars as a whole
The list of issues would remain no matter whether characters were male, female, otherwise, one race or another.
So we have two problems, racism and sexism labels using dubious definitions and application of those labels to people that dislike certain movies under assumptions that lose credibility when problems with the movies remain the same when said group is catered to.
James Hughes
It's a good marketing strategy to trick liberals into thinking corporations care about their issues. It's like these people have no idea what pandering is and actually believe corporations give a shit about them
Mason Thompson
>chanology cancer As I said, fuck off.
Cameron Perry
Jesus fuck. What is with that specific movie? Is it their holy grail or somethjing? Why be in denial for 2 years, it's not that fuckin good. What's with those desperate attempts to pin in on the moviegoers?
Austin Wright
seething lmao
Dominic Lee
>lol and lmao aren't 90's text lingo >gen z
what are you 60?
Brandon Collins
Except they did for literally decades
Gavin Parker
TLJ wasn't that bad.
t. racist, sexist, /pol/tard
Ayden Richardson
Boomers be seething LMAO
Jeremiah Torres
I post that shit because it gets little spergs like you to shit their pants >NOOOOOOO YOURE NOT ALLOWED TO USE INTERNET LINGO AHHHH HELP ME MODS Lmao based
Jordan James
It's definitely not shit writing. Nope, can't be. Gotta be politics.
Lincoln Stewart
>if you don't like this undiluted propaganda, you are a sexist
Chase Carter
That’s wrong, there’s only one gender and a lot of talking animals.
Ian Long
There is only the Star Wars trilogy, everything else is fan fiction, expect a couple of books that are patrician as fuck
William Ross
You were the one claiming you're the oldfag here, just putting you in your place. Boy it sure is summer.
Jace Moore
Anything that George didn't approve of with his highlighter isn't based. There isn't anything else to be said, otherwise you're just stereotyping people with false social studies.
Josiah Martinez
>pretending to be retarded in order to upset anons I rest my case, lmao
Christopher Miller
It's amazing how baffled some people are that people didn't like TLJ. It's an overlong joyless movie that destroys Luke's character and walks right up to the line of destroying the good vs evil dichotomy before chickening out.
Logan Nguyen
who ever had any hopes in zoomers seriously?
Brandon Gonzalez
I'm an alt right Nazi but I'm also a loving father and husband. What now, libtards? Huh?
Gavin Anderson
As long as you keep feeding me yous like a good little you pig all is well.
Thomas Gomez
>White also discovered that the more sexist and anti-PC a Stars Wars fan is, the less likely they are to like the characters Vice Admiral Amilyn Holdo, Rey, and Rose Tico Damn brutal to just sucker punch the left with something like that.
What if I do like 3, don't care for 1-2 and love 4-6 but have never seen the sequels because I stopped believing in shameless grubber flicks after the mid 00s
Grayson Harris
Jokes on him, I don't even like Star Wars.
Joshua Stewart
You lost bro, it ain't even about starwars anymore.
>Talking like the mentally ill >thinking anyone will take you seriously
Mason Adams
COPE
Eli Martinez
Raise your child instead of holding up a drug-fueled fascist agenda or she'll be a goth lesbian.
Joseph Gonzalez
>Not surprising when you buy bucketloads of tickets to your own movie like with Captain Marvel. Wait did that actually happen?
William Taylor
THEY GAVE AWAY A TON OF TICKETS FOR OPENING WEEKEND, WRITTEN OFF AS PROMOTION
CAPTAIN MARVEL WAS RIDING ENTIRELY ON ENDGAME HYPE MARVEL NEVER RELEASED TWO MOVIES SO CLOSE TOGETHER BEFORE, THEY KNOW CM IS SHIT AND CANT STAND ON ITS OWN
WAIT FOR THE HUGE DROP ON CM2 WITH NO ENDGAME PROPPING IT UP
Jordan Morris
I hate women and political correctness and loves the last jedi. Precisely because it showed women and minorities in a poor light. >woman leader totally useless, deceptive, retarded, and self assured regardless. hated by crew, kills entire rebellion save one ship with terrible planning and over confidence. Wears dress to battle like an idiot. >nog traitor Tried to kill himself when he realized that white women dont actually like nogs, no matter what the advertisers and porn mogals want you to believe. Constally committing petty crimes and saying he dindu when he gets in trouble. >gender equality first order hire Dies to the hand of a manlet pear shaped nog criminal with stun baton. At least she had the shiniest armor. >gook mechanic disgusting chubby insect, ruins nog traitors redemption in retarded plan that should have probably killed them both just because SHE fell for the bbc meme, being a souless chink automaton. >BWC 'villian' he is rational, reasonable, and seeking vengeance on the uncle who tries to murder him in his sleep. Kills snoke and his minions when he realizes he would be a better leader. All women want to fuck him. >Rey White woman born with all the privilege a white woman could be born with, babied, and gifted with raw force. Still thinks she is the victim. >white pilot Competent and good leader, looks out for his crew and his people, tries to save them from bad plan, betrayed by white woman.
I can go on. Rian is /ourguy/ whether he means to be or not.
and this is why hardcore fans are the worst fans. its a movie about space wizards for little kids, not the fucking Holy Bible. a man can block lasers with a glowstick, and you are bitching about physics?
Joshua Gonzalez
God you’re a fucking faggot. I can’t imagine actually typing this
Josiah Garcia
People need to realize that finding a scientific study that agrees with some random issue doesn't mean it becomes "fact". You can find studies that support a lot of different viewpoints.
But how was it conducted? What was the sample size? Is it replicable? Did we even need to have a study on why people didn't like The Last Jedi? What was the intended purpose of it?
John Hernandez
All those Gen Z people are just not sure about merit anymore seeing as how they have none and need money.
THE DAMAGE CONTROL IS STILL HAPPENING AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Ian Carter
That's because you're a brainlet.
Christian White
>more identity politics
people are so dumb lol.
Daniel Allen
>and you are bitching about physics? Yes, he's a terrible person for wanting some fucking consistency, even if it is a fictional universe.
Camden Adams
>HIS IDENTITY ISN'T THE BEST IDENTITY
LMAO ALL THIS INFERIORITY COPE
WHITE MALE PATRIARCHY FOREVER
James Roberts
>most people use the internet for porn and to talk to their friends >why didn't it make everyone into rationalists who approach every issue in life with the scientific method :(
lol
Jackson Foster
Or you’re just a whiny pussy. Look bud you’re the minority in this thread. I don’t think I’ve seen a single post backing you up
Austin Hernandez
>"it's because I'm a nazi isn't it?" >read article >yep, it's because I'm a nazi It's all so tiresome.
Andrew Lewis
>he doesn't like star wars as deeply as i do
fucking lol get a grip mane this shit isn't real
Julian Sanders
Disney is really still trying to trick people into watching the last one aren't they? Literally still running defense on TLJ
Ethan Bell
Lol, you clearly don't. You also can't form an actual argument.
Dylan Rivera
What's funny is that Erik Kain was the first real journalist to point out that Mass Effect 3 had a shit ending. I guess seven years changes a man.
Gavin Fisher
Then don't be a nazi lol
Cameron Miller
I didn't post Therefore you are wrong (and a brainlet for conflating ID counts also, like how fucking new are you)
Aiden Cook
REY IS A MARYSUE
ALSO
MEN > WOMEN
Tyler Nguyen
Wahhhhh wahhhhhh stop sucking his dick then faggot
Owen Jenkins
Well, atleast for the next decade or two...
Liam Ward
You lost. It's over. You can continue feeding me (You)s all you want but it will never, ever change what you self-admittedly are: a newfag.
>PLEASE WATCH EPISODE 9 AAAAAAAAA DISNEY PAID US TO MAKE YOU WATCH IT JUST PREORDER THE FUCKING TICKETS ALREADY
Samuel Nguyen
So, you're bitching when he's backed by no one, but you're also bitching when he's backed by someone. You're one whiny little faggot aren't you.
Dylan Nguyen
>political beliefs as a member of leftypol i can assure you the movie was pure dogshit
Brayden Perry
Also she is cuter
Nolan Howard
>and that's a good thing
Isaac Roberts
Yikes and cringe pilled
Jace Hernandez
Look bud you’re the minority. You lost.
Jayden Sullivan
>nearly 300 replies for yet another SW thread Lol
Christopher Gomez
>>To understand White’s findings better, a bit of background on his survey is necessary. The previous phase of his research found that there are three main types of Star Wars fans: Prequel Skeptics (fans of the original and sequel trilogies, but not the prequels), Saga Lovers (who rate the entire franchise favorably), and TLJ Disowners (who dislike Star Wars: The Last Jedi).
but what if I like the OT and PT and hate mousewars? checkm8 soibois
Ethan King
>p-p-politics! IT WAS A FUCKING SHIT MOVIE JUST FUCK OFF ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON RIAN >new all powerful villain dies randomly with zero backstory or explanation like dude who cares XD >Rey has no backstory or anything her parents are randoms with no names >Luke fucking skywalker does a matrix move out of nowhere that shit was so out of place was that a joke? was that supposed to look cool FUCK OFF RIAN >Legacy characters die just because >Pacing all over the place, Fin is now a comedy relief cuck >Shat all over the Originals AND the new trilogy by cucking Rey, Fin and Poe out of their own fucking movie NIGGER I want more Rey Fin and Poe I don't give a fucking shit about your casting couch girlfriend Rose or admiral literally who. fuck off Rian.
Nathaniel Nelson
Don’t forget: kill off Han Solo and Luke Skywalker. Do not kill off Leia. Harrison Ford and Mark Hamill remain alive, Carrie Fisher dies like a junkie bitch.
Julian Smith
>been feeding (you)'s to the whole thread >hasn't done anything but solidify the fact white incels shouldn't be allowed in theaters
Ok lol, I'll just go fap to Brie Larson too I guess.
Logan Mitchell
we're getting closer to mass graves for "journalists" and that's a good thing
Easton Ortiz
>only 15 (fifteen) percent of the current generation support the idea of meritocracy >EIGHTY FIVE PERCENT of the future population don't believe in the very concept of objective reality itself, performance and results /pol/tards who believe we're approaching South Africa and Haiti by 2050 are dead wrong, we'll be there before the twenties are over
Angel Young
>winning an internet fight Oh no no no HAHAHAHAH
Samuel Taylor
LITERALLY TWO THINGS ARE SIMULTANEOUSLY TRUE
TLJ WAS A SHIT MOVIE AND WOMEN BELONG IN THE KITCHEN
Blake Morgan
>memeing to get yourself out of a corner Based
Bentley Wood
malgus was too pure for this world
Logan Gomez
What corner you schizo
James Bennett
based and roastiepilled
Jacob Sanders
Chill, it's only banter
William Ward
nice try mr (((white)))
Anthony Richardson
>its a movie about space wizards for little kids
EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
Noah Barnes
If it makes you feel better I'm Gen Z and am traditionalist libertarian with ethnonationalist leanings
Jonathan Diaz
>I don't exist Cool.
Ryder Cox
Lol are you really 35+ on Yea Forums?
Brayden Russell
Im liberal as fuck and I still think the last jedi sucks. its a terrible film
Brody Powell
actually, fans dont like last jedi because it was a POS movie
My feeling for TLJ is that it’s a bad movie but more interesting than the previous one
I don’t know how, but I honestly liked Rey this time and got on board on her being the protagonist
But man the movie as a whole was stupid, with stuff like Holdo being treated as in the “right” and Luke’s really lame death
David James
>its a movie about space wizards for little kids So? Brothers Grimm, Lewis Carroll, HC Andersen also wrote "for kids" It's a fictional work and it should be analized and criticized as such. Something something storytelling, something something worldbuilding, something something character development.
>a man can block lasers with a glowstick, and you are bitching about physics? In sci-fi/fanasy, fictional universes have their own specific rules, and that includes physics. How can a Yea Forums fag not know that
Hunter White
>its a movie about space wizards for little kids So explain to me how it doesn't mean anything because it's a movie about space wizards, but ALSO it's a genius work about generational sin and restorative justice?
Joshua Gomez
NTA but it goes on for way too long. The Snoke throne room and hyperspace kamikaze was a solid finale but then the movie refuses to fucking end for another 30 minutes, until it just kind of fades out.
I don't care that much about tiny lore inconsistencies but I do care about pacing.
Jordan Watson
lmao retard
Owen Sanchez
I agree >interesting concepts but dumb execution is how I would describe the film
Hudson Lewis
Rian gave Rey flaws whereas JJ decided that she should be perfect and badass and totally able to kick Kylo's ass. Rey was reckless, impulsive, and proven dead wrong when she thought she could connect to Kylo. Say what you will about TLJ, it definitely has flaws, but I think the handling of Rey was one of the things it did best, especially since subverting her "villain redemption arc" was actually done pretty effectively.
Jayden Mitchell
>MUH HYPERSPACE RAMMING
is not analyzing the thematic or narrative coherence of the work, autist. You people dress up pedantic in-universe wikifag understanding of Star Wars as actual literary criticism.
William Taylor
This, all they had to do was cut the fucking salt planet out and it would have been a decent movie.
Connor Butler
For better or worse TLJ is the genuine expression of a filmmaker who had deeply held beliefs about Star Wars and wanted to say something
TFA, Rogue One, and Basedlo are just inane exercises in fanservice that are desperate to make sure fans are placated
Grayson Reed
Imagine being such a pathetic piece of shit youre still crying years after strangers pan your favourite blockbuster mediocrity
Angel Johnson
Rise of Skywalker is going to be such absolute dogshit everyone is going to talk about how great The Last Jedi is compared to it. Screencap this.
Luis Parker
>"hostile sexism" That does it. THAT FUCKING DOES IT.
This is now the Hostile Sexism thread. Post your worst.
So what, there are lots of films out there with interesting premises and other aspects but if they aren't executed well then no one gives a shit. The harsh reality that star wars fans don't want to acknowledge is if TLJ had no affiliation to star wars it would have been completely forgotten about after its release
Benjamin Morales
>if the movie was a hypothetical movie that doesn't exist I can make up whatever hypothetical reaction to it I want
>anti-intellectual that's literally the fucking left you're describing they deny statistics they don't know how to budget they don't know how money works they prize feelings over facts
I hope this was bait
Nathaniel Richardson
There's Star Wars fans, and then there are outsiders who like TLJ and TFA. There are exceptions for mentally disabled people in hospitals and care places and such, I'm not a monster.
Connor Kelly
People focused on political stuff is capable of relating any subject to politics. Furthermore relating anything to politics make the subject matter easier to deffend or attack. Anyone can have political ideas or opinions as those don´t require knowledge or understanding of any kind. The beauty of that, for them, is that it is a great equalizer because every political opinion is worth the same so people that knows nothing about cinema for example can talk shit for hours about how a movie didn´t do enough for the representation of this or that group. By criticizing the story in political therms they seem to be talking about the movie when in reality they are talking about something else, in this case the empowerment of females.
Now, both TLJ and TFA shitness could be explained with solid script theory rules and comparisons, cinematography analysis, audio visual language, etc (not opinions, they are not the same) because the movies are propper bad. There are literally short films that understand visual language and narrative better than those pieces of turd like this, for example.