What went wrong

Its a very unique movie. Its romantic, ephemeral, tragic, comedic, adventurous and epic. It crosses a lot of genres and themes and balences everytging masterfully

No it's fucking cringy and shit.

all i remember is it being weird as fuck

>DUDE I DID IT FOR STANLEY LMAO! STANLEY KUBRICK!

spielbergs best film

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An overall great and infinitely interesting movie that occasionally drops the ball HARD.
lel you know when Yea Forums says something is depressing

osment made this film unwatchable. kubrick was right to assume that no kid could act well enough to make this work.

Imagine being emotional for your toaster.

Conflicting visions. Kubrick was going for a bleak Pinocchio story, Speilberg slapped a happy face sticker on it. If you read the original scifi story it's based on, you can see why Kubrick was intrigued by the idea. It's all David and Monica and Teddy - everything after they decided to send him back was tacked on, and just overcomplicates the story. The global warming shit, the Blue Fairy, all of it was just dumb, when the core of the story was David and Monica.

Not aliens. The movie does a piss poor job of explaining that mankind died off, and the AI's lived on.

Not enough Jude Law.

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Other than the weird ass ending, it was pretty good. Should have ended just before that. Audience wanted a closure I guess

>able to recreate body of mom. Even memories of her
>only for a single day for some ass pull reason

Why? How?

Jude was the best character/actor in the entire movie.

it should of been just about him and the movie would of been WAAAAAAAAAAAAY better.

Aliens were actually evolved AI that the humans made 1000s of years ago.

That's all Spielberg. That's the happy face sticker. David gets his mommy, finally. Kubrick would have left him on the bottom of the ocean forever, he wasn't afraid of bleak endings.

Walker told him he had aids.

huh, the kid was pretty good in it. What was wrong with him?

I wonder if the kid robots were equipped with.. love unit

Kubrick would've made it shittier.
Only Reddit disagrees.

If you pay attention to the movie they state it explicitly

Just rewatched this, it was better than I remembered but they could have built the david/mother relationship a little bit better in the beginning since it's the whole foundation of the movie.

I also remembered that osment said once that Spielberg made him do every take without blinking to make his performance more robotic and thinking that had to be bullshit but it actually was true, the kid never blinks the entire 2 plus hours, pretty incredible for a child actor

Yeah pretty insane ending, I chuckled when the narrator said something like "and then he sat in the submarine repeating that phrase for 2000 years", and then the aliens show up. I just don't understand how they landed on an ending that bad and got aliens involved when he was supposed to be some sort of intelligent machine, the blue fairy stuff was all so dumb and strayed from the intelligent storyline of the ultimate fate of human/AI interaction that Kubrick would have pursued.

I know people have disproved the whole 50/50 Spielberg/ Kubrick thing but fuck me it really does come off like it especially with the fucking ending.

It's horror for new moms especially if the kid is autistic.

Not to mention the cg Robbin Williams ai assistant.

If that was in Kubrick's notes I'll suck a dick.

>the aliens
brainlet

This was my experience as well and I rewatched it last year

Pretty bad honestly, my suggestion is don't waste your time

Slapping a 'happy' ending on a film that seems to shirk anything and everything but a deep foreboding through the entire running length is just so ill-conceived.

>there were aliens at the end.
every fucking time. This fucking place.

Fun fact, it was the first time Spielberg had written a screenplay since the Goonies and Poltergeist. Makes things make a little more sense.

This ending is so deeply ironic. David was designed to unconditionally love a mother & he was created to fulfil Monica's needs (she longed to be a mother again) and here a fake Monica is created to fulfil David's needs to be someone's child. And this Monica is an idealised version of the real person created to unconditionally love David. We see David make her some coffee, we see them play hide and seek together, we see Monica give David a haircut - or at least that's what it looks like (If you recall in the 1st Act, it's David who cuts Monica's hair), we see David tuck Monica in bed (and not vice versa), we see them celebrate David's birthday (as opposed to Martin's) and here we see Monica looking at David's paintings whereas in the 1st act, it's David who's observing Monica's family photos. All the events are repeated, except now the roles have interchanged. David is the one who's needs are being fulfilled. He's playing the role of the human this time. This is Spielberg / Kubrick's bleakest, most challenging and contradictory ending because it shows how self-delusion can result in wish fulfilment. The cloned Monica is nothing like the one we saw from before but David doesn't care, he's found his mother again, he thinks his wish has come true, even though that's untrue. A.I. (like Collodi's dishonest tale) takes an artificial creation on a journey of humanity and in doing so, it tries to understand the very nature of the human condition. In the end, when the fake Monica dies, David self-terminates and accepts death because he understands that he no longer has a purpose in the world - something the supermeccha's have yet to accept. This is the when he "enters the place where dreams are born" - now is when you can say he's human.

They probably plugged him into a giant computer that they have to use for work tomorrow

Recognising death is what makes us alive (something Joe indicates when he says - I am I was). This results in a hugely important and seemingly paradoxical thought: freedom is not the absence of necessity, in the form of death. On the contrary, freedom consists in the affirmation of the necessity of one's mortality. It is only in being-towards-death that one can become the person who one truly is. Concealed in the idea of death as the possibility of impossibility is the acceptance on one's mortal limitation as the basis for an affirmation of one's life.
A.I. deals with the exact same themes as 2001: A Space Odyssey - sentience, mortality and god - and does it better. This is the greatest sci-fi film since Tarkovsky's 1979 masterpiece Stalker.

they were aliens you fucking retards, they refer to david as "the greatest example of THEIR genius" meaning david was the peak achievement of human ingenuity. and anyway, if they were super evolved AI created from humans then why would they need to dig up genetic material to piece together human history?

It laid bare the fact no one cares about the suffering of boys, that even when they are abandoned by their own mothers, they are not deserving of sympathy, that we would rather just pretend they don't exist.

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did you even watch the movie?

They weren't aliens, you fucking spergfactory.

god damn who is that battle angel on the left

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Spielberg should never be let alone near little male kids

It tries to mix sour with sap, which is why Spielberg settled on Osment and otherwise betrayed everything that wasn't hammered out in token Kubrick detail.

Nothing makes this more clearer than the fact that they tried to market a talking teddy bear based on one of the most dour and forlorn companion characters ever written.

Deep down there's still something there, a semblance of what might've been. David ends up a toy in the bottom of a watery grave toy box after an entire film of trying to find his place in the world and the failure and mistake of trying to be human.

I legit think we were robbed.

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Haha, I said Reddit! Now my opinion isn't stupid!

You saw the talk about Back To the Future franchise then

Joe refers humans as "they" so I guess Joe was a Alien too in your retarded mind. They were evolved AI's doing excavation.

yeah the fact that the ultimate goal of that mission was to get to a search engine was crazy
whatever, I've forgotten plenty about it, I just had a picture of what they looked like in my head

google wasn't a thing back then kiddo

wew, a provocative analysis

you're missing the point, if they themselves were superadvanced AI created by humans then why would they refer to david as "the greatest example of their(humans) genius"? david would just be a primitve ancestor of theirs and they would be the greatest example of human genius, it doesn't make any sense

The evolved AI recreate Davids "mother" as a temporary emotional crutch..reflecting humans creating AI's for temporary emotional crutch. Davids fate was ironically ending up as a relic in a museum for the advanced AI to muse over..this reflecting the lecture at the start of the film where the humans musing over the AI. The ending was originally in Kubricks vision...except Spielbergs clunky shmutlz approach (and Williams "emotional" plinky plonk soundtrack) made it worse than its original intention.

Girls can grow up to be women who seek love from men very much like the love they received from their fathers, but boys do not have the option to grow up to men who seek love from women like the love they received from their mothers.

Is it possible for men to truly grow beyond this cruel trick Nature played on them or do they simply learn to ignore the program that plays inside compelling them to seek love and devotion from a woman?

You're either trolling or need to watch the film again and pay attention.

Because a robot kid that is capable of loving her mom was their greatest achievement. According to them, an advanced AI was not as good.

I like this

I watched this quite young and I remember it having a really weird effect on me. I watched this, The Crow and Blade Runner multiple times with my uncle and my cousin. Cool story.

And just to put a finer point on it.

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Is this really something that would've been had the material been respected and refined as much as the defenders try to claim it was?

Spielberg might've hit every major note, but that doesn't mean it was executed properly.

Spielberg's ending, oddly enough, is both shallow enough for normies to experience it as a happy ending while the rest of us can see it as a horrible and tragic ending that it really is.

The AI "aliens" were created by other AI's that were similar to David in programming and design.

nothing, this movie is a pleb filter

I like it but the ending is terrible and too long.

Yeah its a tragic ending for David. I think the original concept was one of a cautionary message..much like original fairy tales.

So the Bleach ending huh..I understand Kubo better now.

That was a happy ending? He died doggy.

that doesn't make it any more profound, Robin Williams didn't give any help, just explained where the story came from

> Movie Teddy.
> Talks in dour monotone
> States he's not a toy, and fixes himself because he knows nobody else will.

> Toy Teddy.
> "I AM SOOO HAPPY!"
> "WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BEAR AND A CHICKEN?"

Fucking hell.

too artificial and not enough intelligence

Nothing went wrong.

It meandered.

a mixture of two styles that was not an easy blend. You could tell Spielberg wanted to do a Kubrick movie but was, in the end, too afraid to go all in.

Wouldn't call it happy really but it doesn't really match up well to see again the mom that literally abandoned him in the fucking woods because she was too creeped out about a robot programmed for unconditional love, escaping a torturous death in a carnival, meeting his creator, and voluntarily shutting down through an ice age in cage after it all.

It was poetic for David to meet what's basically his descendants, but it should've stopped there.

Fucking loved that bear.

He's brilliantly written and done in a way that we slowly start to realize he would be the model David, or any other similar ai would have to live by. All those fairy tales and half truths his mom told him just act as those things he'd eventually have to strip away over time the more he's in the real world.

That's also why the film acts as nightmare fuel for would-be parents. Even if David wasn't forced out early we still have the realization that he'll outlive her and everyone else he loves in a similar way we all go through, and she in turn has the realization that all the false parables and half-truths she told him are only going to make him less suited for the world at large.

> I'm sorry I didn't tell you about the world.

Sorry for the rant though these threads don't come up often.

/endrant.

>Kubrick was going for a bleak Pinocchio story, Speilberg slapped a happy face sticker on it.
Posers watched it and kept going on about how Kubrick would have made a superior and colder film if he hadn't died, when the truth is he actually handed the project over to Spielberg when he was alive precisely because he felt Spielberg would bring emotion and heart to the story. The ending was also part of the project when Kubrick handed it over, but said posers assume it's all Spielberg and single it out, making them look fucking daft.

Doesn't really hold up to scrutiny though considered it is actually very disjointed.

Disregarding the ending entirely just for the sake of argument here it's clear it was in a very rough phase when it was handed over. No natural lighting and long static shots here, just very glossy chic sci-fi, effects shots, and close ups.

While you're right about Kubrick wanting to have a Spielbergian armoa, the end result really does feel like a Spielberg shell strapped to a Kubrick script.

Don't think I've heard the word poser used since 95 though.

That's acid bucket scene thou.

This thread honestly resurfaced painful memories of watching this as a child. What a sad, fucking movie.

This was a nice touch.

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