Tell me...friend...when did Saruman the Wise abandon reason for madness?
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but you...have elected the way of...PAIN!
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Tell me...friend...when did Saruman the Wise abandon reason for madness?
This is what Yea Forums will tell you is superior to GoT and Martin.
who was in the wrong here?
Kino
Tolkien could have took a massive steaming shit on a piece of paper and it would be better literature than anything Gurm could come up with in a fucking century
Sauron
DUHHHHH BASED
>but you...have elected the way of...PAIN!
eww. is this the real dialogue? lol pathetic
But it is.
Melkor for being a twat.
Unironcally Gandalf. He needlessly escalated the situation. It would've been 'wise' to pretend to switch sides.
>Be a literal angel who helped God sing the Earth into existence
>Go to angel school with your angel buddies for an infinite amount of time before the world was made
>Go to Earth to help God shape the planet
>Go to wizard school to learn how to help humans fight the devil
>After 80 million years of training for this moment, use your wizard stick to hit the other guy in the head
12/10 would elect way of pain again
Daily reminder the "fight" between Gandalf ND Saruman is not in the books and is basically D&D level capeshit for star wars fans.
Peter Jackson fans btfo
Sauroman for being weak willed and easily tempted
>but you...have elected the way of...PAIN!
>BING BING WAHOO
how do you like your wieners?
How did Saruman imprison Gandalf?
Why are Maiar so shit bros?
>Melian just gives up and fucks off
>Osse is just a cunt
>Sauron gets BTFO by a talking dog
>Eonwe too much of a pussy to pass judgement by himself
>Balrogs get soloed by fucking elf faggots
>Only one out of five wizards actually helps
The blue wizards had it right, just drop the whole thing and wander off.
No.
>sauron loses to a vala because magebitch sneaks up to blind him then passes out from sauron's sheer power aura
>balrogs solo numerous elf faggots
What's the story on these guys?
fat FUCK
They went to the east and acted as voices of reason, as Mordor's influence rose there. You might look at the hoards of Easterlings fighting alongside Sauron's forces, but really they were a paltry sum compared to how many men Sauron would have had, had the two blue wizards not "wandered east."
I've heard alternative narratives that they strayed from their duties and in time formed magic cults in the far East of Middle Earth.
I've heard those theories too. I still think they went east and fomented dissent as Sauron tried to rally those people to his will.
This is why the GoT vs LotR debate is pointless. They're both fantasy, but they're separated by so many generations of genre growth that they're almost different genres entirely at this point. Pretending to switch sides is something one of GRRM's characters would do (and several of them actually do), but in LotR it feels right for Gandalf to just up and call Saruman a backstabbing retard. Both series' have their niches, and both are the best in those niches.
How do I give this inoffensive, pathetic opinion made to capitulate to as many people as possible reddit gold?