Saving Private Ryan

Did they really have to charge straight into the machine gun fire like idiots? Surely there was a better way to take the beach, why didn't they flank the Germans with the assistance of close air support?

Instead they run like retards into certain death.

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Yeah, in retrospect, this is a real flaw in the film. Highly unrealistic. What was young Spielbergo thinking?

men back then weren't little bitches like they are today

why didnt they all just parachute in?

why didn't they just advance in shield wall formation?

that would be insane. willingly jumping and landing into a position with germans in front and behind you? who would do that?

why didn't they take the channel tunnel into france?

should have serpentined

If they had dropped million of bees BEFORE the landing, thatnwouldve made things a lot easier for the allies. If, you know, they had brought bee repellent. Is there such a thing as bee repellent?

Why didn't they just have sex?

>historylets and strategylets on my board
There was no flanking it. It was a beachhead. And they did send air support, but the terrible weather conditions virtually blinded them.

Go to bed Ofdensen.

>Okay boys, so we're all clear on the plan?
>Good
>Everyone grab a can of shoe polish
>Yeah, really smear it on there evenly, fellas... nice...
>Remember, the krauts have to be 100% convinced you're Africans for this to work
>As soon as they see you, they should surrender to you immediately and offer you some welfare money and a place to live

Hard to believe Operation "Jolson's Mammy" was the major turning point in the war but it really cements Eisenhower's place as one of history's master strategists

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In real life the machine gunners were set up for interlaced fields of fire, not directly in front of the landing craft.

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What do you expect from a bunch of jingoistic boomer retards hellbent on raping french women?

Americans are retarded. Also, it's not like they had a better option. If they tried the parachute shit the nazis would just shoot them up in mid-air.

why didn't they just ram a destroyer or two onto the beach and fire into pillboxes literally point blank?

talk about getting spawn raped

Now this is a good idea

Based

I can't believe the admin didn't ban them

>Dumbasses thinking they know better than generals

There is no flanking an entire coastline of fortifications retards. And they did drop tens of thousands of paratroopers and attack with thousands of planes and warships. They used everything they had, but there's only so much WW2 era planes can do against vast areas of ground fortifications with anti-air cover. Boots on the ground will still have to fight through lines of heavy defense, and the boots in front will still have to charge into enemy fire.

Because the beach guns would fuck up the destroyers

The fact that only Utah and Omaha had any considerable resistance should show how well the landings did. But nooooo, have to have this thread constantly

>he believes this actually happened
nigga the matrix is real, except that everything before 1999 was made up by AI.

I went to the Normandy beachheads. They had some MG nests there.

Japan had this idea near the end of the war. It didn't end well for them. Turns out huge warships are actually easy targets when they're not hanging out far behind the action under air cover.

Because a destroyer is easily worth more than a few thousand infantry.

they sent rangers against the pointe du hoc beach guns, and they weren't even there anyways. Besides, what's it going to do, sink on the beach? Just fire into the beach guns point blank first lmao.

Why didn't they just send the Germans a letter politely asking them to leave?

maybe japan should try training some more fucking pilots first before they run out so they can maintain air coverage lmao

just 360 noscope them

This
If women ran the world there would be no war

the machine guns were supposed to get taken out by artillery but the Americans fucked up and missed.

it was either run into machine guns or go home.

Money you dipshit, men are cheap

idk Nazi's were reasonable fellows they would have listened. Germans are pretty rational 2bh

friendly reminder that the only congressperson to vote against war with japan after pearl harbor was a woman

why didn't they just toss a load of smoke grenades

They weren't elite German troops and the MG42 is a shit machine gun.
The soldiers lost their fire discipline and fucked their weapons.

Kek

god damn it

>a woman saying no to war after getting our shit pushed in.
ofcourse she would be

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Thing is too is that D-day on those beaches was only shit because all possible support fucking missed and they weren't about to wait another day for an invasion.

It's okay, you can wait a bit and try again or fucking murder thousands of your own men.

What a retarded attack.

This close to having no anime and having this cesspool never exist.

That woman was the chosen one.

>dumbass taking the obvious bait

These kinds of threads are posted every other day.

>why didn't they flank the Germans
By landing in Spain or on the other side of Denmark?

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By landing in Europe's juicy asshole.

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why didn't they cover the beach in smoke grenades?

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really makes you think

why didnt they just throw some bombs at them

that picture gives me chills. How the hell did anyone make it up the beach?

Why didn't they just open a time and space rift?

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why didn't they just snipe 11 dudes and call in an AC-130

why didn't they just join the Axis?

The japs also did that with a couple of destroyers on Wake Island near the beginning of the war. Worked fairly well there against a small garrison.

Thumbnail totally looks like a videogame

The main problem was mortars, not machine gun nests.

Didn't something like that happen in a GI Joe comic once? Like they beached their big warship and used it as an ad hoc fortress/firing platform for artillery support?

That was actually the plan Japan had for Yamato on its final voyage, beach it and use it as an artillery platform to support their troops defending against the Allies

Are you kidding me? Im surprised germans managed to hit anything with a MG from that distance.

Why didn't the Americans just nuke Berlin?

Why didn't they create a massive tidal wave and have it crash into the beach head?

MGs are generally far more accurate than other small arms, big rounds, long barrels.

literally human wave tactics until the enemy is overwhelmed

Krauts only have so much ammo and so many spare MG barrels.

never played BF42 in a decent server? main base rape is against the rules

they did, most of them missed.

Can you guys try reading a book on the subject and/or actually watch the movie? Some of these posts are embarrassing.

>If women ran the world there would be no war
There would be tons of gossip however, how Eva Braun's ass was fat and that she was such a slut.

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War is hell, can you imagine this, you get out of the water and run across the beach and manage to reach the beach wall, you probably stop for a instant to catch some breath when suddenly a hail of gunfire literally cuts though your entire squad in a couple of seconds.

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>be German soldier
>join up to fight the Russian monkey hordes
>end up stationed at the tip top of Norway on the Atlantic Wall
>literally just freeze your ass off until the war ends

>Why didn't they just have sex?
Thats how porn movies resolve all conflicts.

The should have done what the Russians did, just pound the entire area with artillery for 100 days straight.

They did but not on the beaches.

why is a machine gun still there?

ofcourse it would be Japan to try such a goofy goddamn tactic haha jesus christ

Not enough people look at this and consider that each dead body there belonged to a person that lived their own independent life. They had just as many hours in a day as you do now. They likely had many common experiences, and would have lived similar lives if they didn't serve their country. At the time, it was entirely paramount, but now their deaths seem pointless.

to shoot at loiters

Honestly the more I think about this the more absolutely fucking stupid yet brilliant it is. Fuck destroyers we're using cruisers. Big fuckin 6 inch guns, massive sheets of armor, lets say 200mm thick stuck to the front end of the ship, ram it in to the sandbar so there's no waves affecting gun's accuracy, blow the fuck out of the coastline with absolute impunity.
German coastal artillery guns /might/'ve been able to get a few of them but the long 88 would have trouble popping 200mm of armor on top of whatever the cruiser already had point blank, let alone like a mile out.

Calls artillery on top of your now stationary position. 500 dollars just wrecked your million+ dollar ship.

American air superiority cums in your ass good luck kid

Your idea is as stupid as you

D-Day only succeeded because the Germans thought the landings were going to happen at Calais, not Normandy, thus the beaches were only lightly garissoned. The day before was also Rommel's wife's birthday so he was back in Germany, when he was the commander of the entire coastal defense.

The whole success of the operation relied on it being a surprise attack. That was lost once the paratroopers landed and the ships opened fire. It was do or die.

looks like that's just shopped in to better complete the picture

they did

When I was a kid I watched this movie with my great grandfather and he said their guns shot faster than that

why didnt they just join the germans? i dont see what was so bad about them

a huge number of German troops were actually still in Norway when the war ended, they never recalled them back even when the Germans really had their back up against the wall

Why didnt they just use a drone to bomb the beach?

FDR couldn’t walk and he was embarrassed about it so he paid those guys to go bully Hitler

>flank the Atlantic wall

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Yeah, lets wait a couple of days and let the guys we dropped behind enemy lines get completely fucked.
Why not wait a couple of days and let the enemy move men and hardware in place for out attack.

What a retarded post.

>see smoke
>shoot into the smoke
Your move, big brains.

Why didn't we just nuke the nazis? It would be so much eaiser.

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Many destroyer captains pulled their ships within 1,000 yards of the beach user, almost beaching them. Many were damaged by mines and artillery fire, one was outright sunk by a mine.

>lol just flank the atlantic wall bro

the barrels are not consumables like ammo. They overheat, but you only need a couple and keep rotating them out.

T. Reporter

Why didnt they land or para-dropped tanks instead of infantry?

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just all shout medic in unison to confuse them

Friendly reminder that when the bill came up to give women the right to vote it was deadlocked in congress and the man to break the tie was cucked by his mother.

you fucking moron

Why didn't they just have the eagles fly them to Berlin?

>Did they really have to charge straight into the machine gun fire like idiots?
They weren't aware of the machine-gun emplacements, the beach defences were meant to be leveled by heavy artillery and bombing runs but nearly all of it missed and overshot along Omaha due to weather and poor visibility, the beaches with successful bombardments were all taken quickly with minimal losses.

>why didn't they flank the Germans with the assistance of close air support?
That actually happened later.

I laughed

>people complain about soviets using human wave tactics
>americans do the same thing
????

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why didn't they use their cloaking technology?

I've shot an MG 72. Pretty accurate at short bursts, effective up to atleast 800m. Would assume the 42 isn't that much different, since they should be basically the same gun.

Not for normal human beings (hi slav/bugmen)
Weird how he we actual get competent people fighting for our cause.

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Took a page from the Soviet playbook

Why didn't they parachute in AT NIGHT?

>Beach a destroyer
>It rolls onto its side as all beached ships do
>Can now only shoot into the ground or straight into the air

Bravo Nolan!

Then explain the casualties of Omaha beach.

The USS Texas nearly fucking beached when it rolled in for support

Need a shitload of barrels. They overheat quickly. You can maybe squueze out a few hundred rounds before you need to change it. Since the invasion took place in the middle of summer, you can't stick them into the snow to cool them down fast.

the sand fought back

I wonder who had sea/air superiority

I wonder what a Soviet invasion would've been like.

>flanking the entire coastline of a continent
user, I...

What is it with the weird “umm acthually” posting about DDay? It’s all over fucking /k/ almost every week saying a lot of bullshit about it

Do tell me what stopped the destroyers on the sea from pummeling the beach until there was nothing left of the Germans

Why didn't the Germans defend the other beaches like Omaha lol?

They say spirits linger in places where people died violently and against their eill
by that logic do the locals there hear the thousands of dead men at night?

Stalin was already planning on taking the beaches, we had to go for the preemptive strike

t. rolling stone

Okay okay boys riddle me this
why did they send boats full of men instead of a dozen or two Shermans? Those tanks could have raped the bunkers and been impervious to machine guns. Just riddle me this

You drop tons of artyllery on the beach, the germans retreat/hide in their holes, when you stop shooting to allow your troops to land, they just come back, we learned this in WW1

They tried sending special floating Sherman tanks to the beaches, but they didn't swim so good

I'm pretty sure they had anti-tank weapons as well.

look up hobarts funnies

to think that if they had landed 200m up the coast they would have met no resistance

At least the pillboxes with MGs would be neutralized.

Why didn't they get Howard Stark to make bulletproof shields for everyone?

Trust a mutt to not take some live saving tanks and instead resort to Soviet methods of wasting lives.

>into the air
So artillery.

Not completely, old artillery doesn't have pinpoint accuracy like modern smart bombs, it would take several lucky direct hits to destroy a hard concrete pillbox, most likely it would just get partly damaged, the MG itself is mobile so it would be hidden during the barrage.

It wouldn't be able to hit anything nearby.

Why didn't the soldiers use smoke grenades

>with the assistance of close air support?
CAS was in its infancy back then. In the days before the infantry could coordinate directly with the pilot overhead you'd get them to bomb the next village while you huddled behind cover in another one. Or if it was the USAF overhead you huddle under cover in another village, in the next province over.

If they did that they'd be no better than the krauts.

Why not just invade Italy, the soft underbelly of Fortress Europe?

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LOL

wtf

These colors don't run
Or hide

They shouldn't have used live ammunition for the film

Well of course, Finland had dropped out and driven the Germans out and western allies controlled the sea so the Norwegian garrison and Lapland army were stuck there.

ITT: millenials think they're better than the WW2 generation

They needed a reliable beachhead to bring in more men and resources. A paradrop is great but a large airborne force can only sustain combat effectiveness for a few days without logistics

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Some of them did, there's no way they'd be able to win on that alone so they waited for ground forces to add reinforcements.

It was actually super foggy that's why the movie looks kinda dumb in comparison.