Jacob's Ladder:

>so the name of this drug is Jacob's Ladder?

Fuck you Lyne you fucking hack

Nobody giving me an answer about his skill of hallucinating the actual reality

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Just turn off your brain bro

that isn't the actual reality
or is it lol

The ending kinda fucked it up, a little, it should have ended with him climbing the staircase towards his son, not in the military base. Would have been more ambiguous.

Great movie, gave us silent hill and a few seconds of prime monster porn.

IM honest O. Jacob doesn't hallucinate his friends and the chemist. I like to think they all died from the same incident, and all their souls were meeting up on their way to the afterlife. But that's just my head-canon and less frustrating than having Jacob hallucinate the whole situation with the chemist. Everyone except for those directly involved with the "attack" in 'Nam --and Gabe-- were parts of Jacob's imagination, flashbacks, memories, collisions of thought.

it was more of purgatory type shit rather than him imagining it while dying
Like that Robert Downey Jr Movie SOULS, he had to do one thing to finally accept peace, and that one thing was see his dead son again

>turn your brain off
thats what he did, moron. yours was never even on from the start.

Quality shitpost

The script was written with two ideas in mind, the MK Ultra project using hallucinogenic and mind control techniques on their own troops in Vietnam, and the religious aspects and purgatory, eventually both ideas ended up being so muddled up together that they couldn't just run with one, so it's like watching two completely different scripts.
The entire plot about the MK Ultra is, in effect, pointless, he didn't die from it and if he did die from it his post morten consciousness could never actually know about that.
That's why it feels so fucking weird when they come out and say "they didn't actually fuck with your mind, mate, you're just dead" and instantly after show a message of awareness that several soldiers suffered from MK Ultra inside attacks. Like, what? Don't put your awareness message in the film if your entire twist is that it never actually happened.

>spoiler
that is a deleted scene IIRC

Yeah the only thing I would take out is the Agent Orange or whatever textbox at the end. The movie goes out so much better without it, even when you don't think too hard.

damn what a coincidence, just finished it a few hours ago

stay mad tranny

it's not just the chemist, stuff like and the thalidomide people in general deliberately reference things he wouldn't have been able to know about (birth defects from chemical warfare).

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Isn't it that the drug is making him trip balls on his deathbed? (Harder than one might normally trip balls)

It's one of many films that probably got its ending fucked by a test audience or a producer. There's a ton of movies with an odd "tacked on" ending that that contradicts the central theme.

The original ending was kinda retarded. He has a boss fight with the latina girl and she turns into a monster.

God I hate that textbox. They shouldn't make a story about him accepting the afterlife if they are then going to turn around and drop a totally unrelated message about Agent Orange.

>dude the entire movie is his dying dream lmao none of it matters at all
WOAH SO KINO MAN

Watched it in high school, I remember it being utterly kino and one of the most unsettling movies I'd ever seen.

No. The deleted are

This one. Nothing special.
youtube.com/watch?v=6krzUvx5Waw

This one that is cool but adds confusion.
youtube.com/watch?v=8hkLhMuzk3E

And this. No boss fight, just more explanation of what ACTUALLY happened.
youtube.com/watch?v=HF_rd2YFEiw

Haven't watched in years, but that's what I remember. Buddy is in his death throes, but he's also fucked sky-high as he goes out.

The scene where the car almost runs him down and you get a shot of the creepy head looking at him in the backseat is great.

I have mixed feelings towards Jacob's Ladder. I think it has very effective scary scenes, but the overall story is pretty aimless. All the war buddy stuff and ShiggyDiggy showing up just adds to the muddled mess. Having the whole vietnam scene at the end is just a retarded way to include ambiguity that essentially shits on the whole movie. I also really don't like the chiropractor character.

>I also really don't like the chiropractor character.
He is the best part. Is literally pic related.
The movie is a good mix of Christianity and Book of the Dead.
The Vietnam part at the end just explains it for everyone.

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Chiropractors are scammers and cheats. Never trust em.

You should trust them. Is an angel, he also has a pose of the angel with sword when he takes Jacob back from the demons.
Well, angel with the Crutch in that case but whatever.

*you should trust HIM. The angel guy. Sorry.

Right but I mean from a production standpoint I think that role should have been a different character. Make him a fishing friend or something and then you can make it a reference to Charon.

I think it was kinda needed.
I love your idea actually, but Charon is more of a neutral figure, the angle chosen by the authors was of a starker contraposition due to what the angel said about Eckart. If you have demons, you need an angel.
Moreover if you represent many doctors as demons you need to show the angel that is still a doctor.

I want to add: I would totally love something like that but more based on greek mythology.
The Charon one is a fantastic idea non.

The ceiling thing is the war wound, a comment says.
Never thought about that. Clever.

To add further fuel to the fire, the bayonet he's stuck with is a US one, meaning they did attack each other