your favourite Bergman kino?
Your favourite Bergman kino?
the seventh seal cuh no cap
The one where the crossdressing Jewish warlock molests that little boy
the one where the protagonist struggles to find faith and meaning when faced with the idea that god is silent
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Winter Light
Winter Light
Virgin Spring
Never watched a bergman film.Which ones are a must see??
Fanny and Alexander is literally and unironically the greatest film ever made. That’s not hyperbole. Watch the complete cut, not the theatrical release.
>Which ones are a must see??
(in order of release date)
>Seventh Seal
>Wild Strawberries
>Persona
>Cries and Whispers
>Autumn Sonata
>Fanny & Alexander
He has plenty of other masterpieces, but those should be a good intro to his work.
Fanny and Alexander, unironically. It's the perfect end to his cinematic career; a pagan embrace of love and family.
Persona
Hour of the Wolf
Virgin Spring
Winter Light
Shame
Through a Glass Darkly
Seventh Seal
Wild Strawberries
Will do guys. Thank you!!
Gaslight
The comfy is euphoric
Thank you too user!!
The Ekdahl family is probably the greatest family ever depicted in film. Filled with more or less dysfunctional individuals, but comes together as a complete loving family.
My grandfather did his christian confirmation under Ingmar Bergman's father; the man I imagine Bishop Vergerus was based on. Guy was the archetypal strict protestant priest.
Faith Trilogy
Persona
The Virgin Spring
Shame
Summer with Monika
Autumn Sonata is dope
I love Bergman but did anyone watch this one? I was appalled at how much I hated it
Hard to say honestly, 7th seal or Wild strawberrys probably.
This guy made WIld Strawberries and The Seventh Seal in the same year, and they're both classics. Insane.
Winter Light
>MY CAR CAN TRAVEL THIRTY KILOMETERS PER HOUR
It had some very funny scenes, but I did find it to be the weakest of the Bergman films I've seen (which doesn't say much as I've only seen 6 - 7 of them and he was VERY productive).
>love Bresson, Tarkovsky and the whole clique
>can't get into Bergman whatsoever
I hope Winter Light is great.
They don't make writers and directors as they used to.
I'd imagine Bergman to be the easiest of the three to get into. His scripts are usually quite snappy.
Seventh Seal, The Silence, Through a Glass Darkly as well
It's very somber and impenetrable even by Bergman standards, but it's also very solemn and beautifully shot. If you're into those directors Bergman shouldn't be a problem, really. Weird
Only thing I've seen is Wild Strawberries and I thought it was great. I really enjoyed how he showed the main character's recollections of things and how the girl he liked as a kid was the same actress who played the girl who he gave a ride to. The unreliability of his memories and how they clearly weren't how things actually happened was pretty brilliant. I don't think I've seen such a good representation of memories since
Is there a dub for any of the movies without buying them?
Favourite to rewatch: Wild Strawberries
Favourite to experience: Fanny and Alexander
I don't think I've seen or ever will see a better film than ALL THESE WOMEN (1964).
>dub
why would you want this
The duel scene is pure cringe kino
Yeah I don't know either. Guess it's bad-faith on my part aswell, wasn't really interrested in the concepts of Persona and F&A, so I lost interest midway through and dismissed it as a case of
>it's old and foreign so it's good
kind of movie
Is it similar in tone to Diary of a Country Priest from Bresson and the whole God's lonely man thing from Schrader?
Solid take, user.
I can see how it'd be harder to get into him if you're not swedish, but it's definitely worth it still. F&A can be a very daunting place to start as it's some five hours long; it certainly wasn't my first Bergman film. Think I started with The Seventh Seal.
>Is it similar in tone to Diary of a Country Priest from Bresson
One of my favourite films, that. I'd say it's quite similar, even if the priest's issues are very different, and it comes from an icy, protestant angle.
>Is it similar in tone to Diary of a Country Priest from Bresson and the whole God's lonely man thing from Schrader?
Yeah, it's a crisis of faith film
Cheers boys. Going to re-watch Seventh Seal and take my time with it then.
I really hated Through a Glass Darkly.
The Seventh Seal really surprised me the first time I watched it. I though I was about to watch a dour, dreary tragedy of faith; and whilst those things were part of the film, I could never have anticipated how funny it'd be.
My top three would be:
Hour of the Wolf
Through a Glass Darkly
Winter Light
It's a shame Bergman never did more horror outside of Hour of the Wolf, no idea if it is considered horror at all but it has some elements. There are a lot of scenes in his movies that are absolutely terrifying like in Wild Strawberries when the guy has the dream about the faceless people and the trial.
The fact that Max von Syodw hasn't gotten a single oscar to his name is just showing what a sham that award is.
Who's the better actor, Gunnar Björnstrand or Max von Sydow?
The Oscars really are a fucking joke. F&A was nominated in several technical categories, and things like best director (which he lost to fucking James L. Brooks), but wasn't allowed to compete in Best Picture because it wasn't in english.
I adore both, but have a soft spot for Björnstrand. He has a greater range, capable of both loose, amusing characters and icy, stoics ones; Sydow is mostly stoic (though he's exceedingly good at it).
Honestly, Victor Sjostom earned it more than both of them. He was haunting in Wild strawberrys. But all three of them are A-grade actors.
Sjostrom*
Sleeper GOAT; Allan Edwall. There is something especially empathetic about him.
It is shit
I think the fact that no one has even attempted to refute this is evidence enough that even those who aren’t fans of Bergman at least recognize the film is objectively brilliant.
As an aside, I watched Virgin Spring with my wife and she had almost constant panic attacks for a week after watching the rape scene. Her reaction was so primitive and visceral that I haven’t been able to watch that scene again.
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I haven't watched Fanny and Alexander yet, i'm going through Bergman's works chronologically, i'm currently at The Silence. But yeah, that rape scene on Virgin Spring is disturbing.
The Seventh Seal