Real orcs are called "Uruk Hai"

That's how I remember it too. Goblins would be the creatures they run into when they go through the mountain passages and get ambushed.

Are Uruks made with magic and Orcs are corrupted elves?

>Those called orcs are actually goblins
what do you mean? those terms means exactly the same

also, Uruk-Hai is just another species of orc/goblin, so both are "real" orcs

My god you haven't even read the hobbit. Absolute asspull of a post you've made here, is it bait? Goblins are something completely different from the uruk Hai (saruman orcs) and regular Mordor orcs (uruk)

>Orcs are corrupted elves?
Orcs are made with magic by Morgoth.

"goblin" and "orc" are synonyms, like "human" and "man".

I thought goblins were the smaller creatures you saw in Moria. Or were those just standard orcs?

>Goblins are something completely different
what? orc and goblin is the same thing, there are just different sub-species
see above

Uruk Hai = dragons
Orcs = wyverns

Yes

don't listen to this retard

It goes like this:

Mordor Orcs = Orcs
Black Orcs = Bigger meaner Orcs
Moria Goblins = Goblins (a stunted orc sub-species)
Urak Hai = Saruman's engineered super Orcs

black orcs ARE uruk-hai you dumb-dumb. Mordor had it's own uruk, Sarumann merely tired to imitate Sauron

Were they goblins in the Hobbit 1?

No Black Orks are Urak, not Urak Hai

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lol no, what the fuck are you talking about?

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>there are just different sub-species
Not even that, see The Hobbit uses the word goblin, LOTR uses the word orc.

Goblins aren't orcs. Uruk-Hai aren't orcs. Uruks (Urks) are orcs.

>can see at night
>use torches at Helms Deep

not in the books. also, seeing a sea of torches is good for intimidation

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do you enjoy being retarded?
see

>can do shit in life
>spend time on burmundese digital gallery instead

uruk means orc

uruk-hai are orc-human hybrids bred by sarumon

all uruks(orcs) AND uruk-hai(half orc/humans) are goblins

but not all goblins are uruk or uruk-hai.

think of goblin as aspecies, and uruk as a race of goblins. there are many other types of goblin races: gundabad orcs, mordor orcs, moria orcs, etc and a generic, catch-all, diminutive mongrel breed of goblin-goblins

so you have goblin-orcs, goblin-goblins, goblin-gundabad orcs, goblin moria-orcs, etc.

basically, imagine what ancient europeans would think of asians. they'd just call them all mongoloids but still be able to differentiate peasant chinese from the warriors of the mongol hordes, etc.

so they carried torches for shits and giggles, is what you're telling me?

He started calling them orc after the hobbit

>light hurts there eyes since there literal beings of darkness
yeah ok

>uruk-hai are orc-human hybrids bred by sarumon
those were bred in mordor way before sarumann did it

Hai means "hello" you dolts

Orcs goblins and Uruks are all Orcs

They have different “sub races” within. Much like Asian people, jap Chinese and Thai are vastly different from one another.

Orcs from Mordor, Minas Morgul, Isenguard and caves all have different features.

it's shark in my language

Did Tolien know of the ancient Sumerian city of Uruk? Are the orcs sand niggers?

I unironically believed that uruk-hais were human orcs, which would explain their bloodlust. Then again, I also thought orcs were fallen elves and goblins were their own species.

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No, the harad are sand niggers. Orcs are literally magically amalgamated elves that Satan kidnapped during the early years of the world to fuck with his brothers and sisters