Why does Yea Forums hate Alita? #2
I've read so many hateful comments. It seems there are a lot of flaws in this movie. Could you please name a few?
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Why does Yea Forums hate Alita? #2
Andrew Brown
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Jason Martin
sneed
Easton Russell
the constant threads, mostly
Caleb Thomas
$100 mln domestically doesn't matter
The total absolute numbers matter.
50% DOM
25% China
30-40% The rest of the world
$170 mln budget, $140 - $160 mln already made
DVD / TV will do the rest
So notflopped and you can relax, user
Kayden Peterson
This is now a numberered general with no movie discussion. MODS
Kevin Evans
Fuck CGI japanese cartoons
Nathaniel Diaz
In Alita movie, the authors approached this robot vs human question in a different way.
First, they show us a world where it's normal that people and cyborgs coexist. It's something that all those who inhabit that world see as something ordinal.
Second, they heavily rely on science, engineering and technologies as a main driving forces that allow cyborgs to exist and operate. No magic, no wonders - Alita literally gets it explained in the beggining.
It's an easy way of addressing the human vs robot problem
But it's only the first layer. That's why I consider the movie is so brilliant, and let me describe in the next post why.
Kayden Davis
>proves it flopped
>tries to say it didn't flop
>ignores the fact the marketing budget is a total loss
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Hunter Miller
By introducing the world where cyborgs are a part of ordinary life, authors were able to move to the next level.
Could a cyborg replace a father his daughter that had been killed?
Could a cyborg love a human?
Literally, these questions rise up to the famous 'does the android dream of electric sheep?' question.
Alita answers all these questions, but in unusual way.
Because the very interesting part of the equation is the following. Alita is a manga adaptation. And, as Batman by Nolan said: It's what you do that defines you. For more please listen this guy
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Because of the style, manga is not about what people say, but about the details, how they behave , what they do.
I.e. she is not saying like in some movies based on comics, what's on her mind and how it evolves, in the relationship with Ido. But her eyes tell you a story of a thousand words. Her first impulsive actions describes how she grows. How Ido becomes to understand his own feeling to Alita, how he finally let's it go on his daugher's death etc.
So movie is really anime-ish action storytelling, which is done so brilliant and precise that those who can understand it, admires the work done by Rodriguez and Cameron.
It's like musical pitch - you can develop one, or have it as gift. If you have it - you see when a singer/musician hits wrong or correct notes. If you haven't - it doesn't make sense to you.
To love Alita, you need Anime pitch. Either giften by nature (God), or developed through watching anime. The better pitch you have, the more you will love the movie. Agree on that with this guy
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Elijah Torres
>This window will close in 3 seconds...
Jackson Richardson
this reads like it was written by a slow 11 year old.
Grayson Barnes
Ad hominem, thank you, user
Oliver Gray
Because it was mostly a basic Disney movie with slightly more waifu bait, nothing more really.
Mason Flores
I like alita but you autists shitting out 500+ threads was annoying.
Caleb Nelson
You're welcome. I always try to do my best to inform people why their posts are being ignored.
I mean shit nigga, you weren't even close to the character limit, and you split it up for some reason.
Juan Davis
Sigh. Am aware I am in a troll thread, but what else is new.
Alita is like most anime in that Alita herself feels like a pathetic 40 year old male screenwriter's fantasy of what a perfect girl should be. Cute, innocent, vulnerable. And, of course, she is a cyborg who goes around slicing up other mecha with a sword. At least they didn't try to iron the stereotypical Japanese emotionally retarded storytelling out of this property. Like real life, all conflicts can be quickly resolved with violence that has no repurcussions, which is why I can so strongly identify with this character and series.
Alita has no character development. At the beginning of the movie she's a unique snowflake who goes around doing her own thing. At the end, she's the same. A completely flat character arc does not a compelling protagonist make. Let's imagine that every other character in the movie died at the halfway point. How would this affect her and her psyche? Probably not at all. She's a boring robotic character because she is, surprise surprise, a robot. Perhaps developmentally stunted otaku can find something in her, but it's nothing that isn't also present in the average waifu.
Austin Gonzalez
>vulnerable
>goes around slicing up other mecha with a sword
user...
Sebastian Campbell
Patrician analysis user. BTFOs
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Sebastian Powell
This but unironically
Christian Fisher
What the chuck is going on here
Sebastian Richardson
This is /sneed/ now
Nicholas Rogers
the movie was an okay adaptation of the great source material but then mentally retarded man-toddlers turned it into a hugbox circlejerk here on Yea Forums
Luke Phillips
Sigh. Am aware I am in a troll thread, but what else is new.
>Alita has no character development. At the beginning of the movie she's a unique snowflake who goes around doing her own thing.
At the beginning she is like an innocent child. Kinda protected by her de facto father Ido.
But the past and the nature of warrior from time to time is showing in her actions.
>At the end, she's the same. A completely flat character arc does not a compelling protagonist make.
She becomes more mature. Her character development is portrayed through conflicts.
I.e. at first she is innocent in bar. She tries to motivate like a damn direct soldier would try, but she is smart enough to see that only thugs are there, no warriors - warriors-in-name-only
>Let's imagine that every other character in the movie died at the halfway point. How would this affect her and her psyche? Probably not at all.
Even hugo death was harsh. Chiren was killed - and when she found out that, she decided to kill Vector (you can feel that) and her motivation to get Nova increased 1000%
>She's a boring robotic character because she is, surprise surprise, a robot. Perhaps developmentally stunted otaku can find something in her, but it's nothing that isn't also present in the average waifu.
She is waifu, but not a robot. Cyborg. Feel the difference
Ryder Russell
Now this is autism
Brody Walker
Often the character capable of living forever has to deal with a bunch of problems
- death of beloved ones (recall Highlander)
- the footprints in the history (Terminator, any modern sci-fi movie with a time-travelling story)
- constantly learning
How do scenarist handle these issues, what's the best approach ?
a) death of beloved ones
usually they describe memory loss as a main excuse
b) the footprints in the history
a bunch of methods are being used , sometimes in a very unusual way, to address history footprints connected issue in a movie script.
d) constantly learning new items
it's basically one of the best ideas how to introduce the character. Show the world through a character's eyes - and you will sell the movie.
In Alita we see how scriptwriters used all these methods combined to handle the issues with the eternal life.
Though idea of living forever is now new at all, there is always something magic and attracting to it.
We see Alita losing memory due to some tragical events. Totally convincable.
Then we discover and see the world through her eyes. Also we see her growing from day to day.
And what's most important - we see her habits, new ones develop and old ones emerge from the past. They say, a person could be really seen through the way one handles a conflict.
And all main Alita character development points are conflicts. Her inner conflicts, conflicts with a new world, with enemies, with friends.
It's the best approach to introduce the character, Rodriguez is doing it very good.
That's why people love Alita. Because the character introduction and development has been done in the right way.
Ethan Cruz
Double that
Benjamin Moore
>Ruling is hard. This was maybe my answer to Mr. Simpson whom, as much as I razz him, I do admire. The Feed and Seed had a very medieval philosophy: that if the owner was a good man, the shop would prosper. We look at real history and it's not that simple. Chuck can say that Sneed became owner and reigned for a hundred years, and he was wise and good. But Chuck doesn't ask the question: What was Sneed's tax policy? Did he maintain a stock of gummy bears? What did he do in times of high PH soil? And what about all these tomaccos? By the end of the episode, Simpsons farm is gone but all of the Tomaccos aren't gone, they're in bushels across Springfield. Did Homer pursue a policy of systematic genocide and kill them? Even the little baby tomaccos, in their little tomacco bushels?
Jason Parker
Yea Forums loves Alita Battle Angel
Liam Phillips
reminder: not flopped
Mason Hill
It's not the movie they hate, it's the people in the generals. Their excuse is "the movie is over so no more general" is bullshit, you're seeing /got/ generals after it finished and will be seeing them long after the fact and they will remain up.
Jaxon Cooper
Them why are you banned retard?
Jeremiah Harris
And the most amazing breakthrough of the movie is Alita herself.
First of all, in dynamics, when he moves, you start thinking of her like she is a real person. Yeah, martian, cyborg, but your eyes aren't looking for flaws in CGI. That's WETA's big achievement.
Secondly, Rosa Salazar. Her emotions are so sincere, especially in the first part of the movie, that you can see through this innocense her as a credible, believable character you want to watch and feel empathy for.
Jeremiah Diaz
third post in this thread proves it flopped.
Leo Stewart
In fact, you know, the weight of something could be measured by waves in water it leaves.
Alita moved a lot of people. They felt emotions they have never felt.
Kojima, a lot of Anons, thousands of people.
We've been creating images, writing stories. A lot of beautiful drawings emerged. 3d Alita models.
Games.
It means that Alita character hit right into hearts of thousands of fans.
And motivated them to act , to create, to show their best side.
It was and still is taking place. I am proud of being a part of Alitans community.
Joseph Thompson
This has convinced me that autistic weebs need to be euthanized
Kevin Foster
This movie is one of it's kind.
It's the end of more than 20 years of Alita manga fans waiting something from Cameron.
It's the first manga adaptation done as it should be and admired by most anime fans. Hollywood finally got it right.
It's the highest grossing movie of Rodriguez.
It's the movie with many Oscar-awarded actors where the best actress is Rosa Salazar with CGi-created face. Like Simona with Al Pacino, she is basically the new step in movie making.
It's my favorite movie of 2019.
And it's Alita: Battle Angel. One of it's kind, the last of her kind. Not mainstream comics, or politics bs movie, or 100x reboot / sequel / whatever.
Decent adoption of original IP done the way it should be.
Thanks for reading. I am Russian Alita fan, and I endorse this message.
Jordan Johnson
she looks ridiculous, especially juxtaposed against the live actors
and the animation is far from perfect, particularly lip sync
take your hand off your microcock for a moment waifufag
Jack Parker
Kill yourself you gopnik fuck
Ethan Brooks
I'm digging how this thread is just copy/paste "reviews" from reddit
Zachary Williams
2 SEQUELS!!?
JHOMES KHOMERONNNNNNNN
Parker Wright
No, it has been written right now, user
Juan Jackson
you know you have to be remotely intelligent to convincingly lie, right?