New Look At Netflix's GHOST IN THE SHELL

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It's on netflix so it will be terrible.

I really like the franchise minus Arise so I hope it's good

>netflix

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>Netflix

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>le trace man

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it's 3DCG

I'll wait until I see the animation.

>fully-animated in 3DCG
Appleseed already exists

>3D
Could not give less of a fuck

>Implying 3D can't work

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>posts the only example of 3D working in an anime

Love Ghost in the Shell but Netflix tends to ruin everything. If they just license it and don't have anything to do with the plot or production it could be good.

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moe trash

>working

What exactly is this supposed to expose? That artists use references for inspiration?

Can Netflix be stopped, or will it eventually ruin every formerly enjoyable IP until there is nothing left to destroy?

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some are good, like that motoko, others look too ayy with no jaw

I want to blow my ghost in her shell

>This is Motoko

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Anime Hermione is a cute.

>faggot tracing rusnigger and netflix
My thoughts are I'll skip it.

What the fufk us this filthy shit?!
That's it,
Adult Swim needs to make their own live stream and being all the good anime studios to makrpe originals.

Because Netflix clearly don't understand at all.
Thank God live stream is becoming common and Netflix is getting dethrone.

I’m glad Witcher ended up at Netflix and amazon got wheel of time

>Netflix

>fuck is

>bring all the good anime studios

Fixed

Who's the fucker that owns this spam bot / shill that makes these shitty cancer threads? Do people actually fall for this shit?

Ranma one is unironicly good

Oh look it's the artist that every tranny makes their discord avatar

hmmm

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Holy shit /ic/ is gonna have a field day.

This guy is probably the biggest hack in the industry. He's literally made through stealing, tracing and same-faceing.

The one movie where he did Character design before was fucking awful and you can tell he can only draw cute girls but he cannot draw anything else, especially males, so they all look soft and feminized. Truly the perfect fit for GiTS

'no'

WHEN ITS THE BEST POST AND ALSO THE FIRST POST

fpbp

>tfw Netflix is the new Shadman

There's no hope... Their all-consuming greed will be the end of all.

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THATS A LOT OF FUCKING TWIRLING

ANDROIDS CAN BE WASTEFUL WITH THEIR MOTION BUT ITS STILL TOO FLASHY

>I really like the franchise minus Arise
Why?

CUS ARISE IS UGLY AS SHIT LMAO

How? Lmao

LOOK AT IT THE CHARA DESIGN IS FUGLY LOL

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Would Major be gay if she let someone fuck her?

I predict this will be cancelled.

>redraws count as tracing
based retard

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>it's 3DCG

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She literally is gay mate

The real question is how much (((diversity))) is going to be there.

any retard can see most of those are traced with different colouring not redraws

>it's not a 1:1 reproduction so it wasn't traced
Based retard posting an anime image where the lowest tier job in its very production is slightly editing traces.

cope and have sex

A long running series about a a bisexual character of ambiguous gender, who leads a multi-ethnic and multi-national black ops task force, that often addresses extremes of trans-humanism

Fuck I sure do hope they don't slip any 'diversity' in it!

>bisexual
That's questionable, if not fan service

>ambiguous gender
She is female, get over it

> multi-ethnic and multi-national
Primarily Japanese

>trans-humanism
As in cybernetiics, not mental illness

>kronprinz

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>Ilya's unhealthy understanding of cute design
>Netflix's record of 3d "animation" shit

don't know how to feel senpai

Dropped

Oh no /wg/ BTFO!

>That's questionable, if not fan service

It is unambiguously not questionable

>She is female, get over it

Standalone Complex, which this new thing is part of, outright treated it as ambiguous before coming down on the side of her being born female at the very end of it's run. Hell, that's at least until multiple versions of the story reach the point of her not even being a biological being anymore at which point gender and race outright cease to matter.

>Primarily Japanese

Not an argument.

>As in cybernetiics, not mental illness

They're one and the same.

I like the Motoko design, but im keep my reservations. Just don't turn her in to a 'I dont need no man' trpup, and bring the Lesbian aspect back.

not enough interracial teenage sex for my tastes. transgender characters also weren't represented and that was problematic

Devilman Crybaby is the best animated series in decades, and that was Netflix.

This will probably be dogshit, though.

>it's not copying if he only redrew all of the details, even the reflections in the headlight

>netflix

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have an authentic vagina

Japs are muttified in GitS. It takes place in the future and Japan is one of the few countries not in shambles after WW3, so its flooded with immigrants and refugees from around the world. The character designer in the movies said he deliberately didn't want the cast to look like typical ethnic Japanese which is why the Major was based off that Afhgan girl
>but they have japanese names
This is normal for immigrants in Japan today. Assuming they're japanese from their names is like assuming someone named Goldberg is an ethnic German.

GITS MANGA>1995 MOVIE>STAND ALONE COMPLEX SEASON 1>EVERYTHING ELSE!!!FACT!!!

It's pretty well-known that he got btfo for coping Japanese artists works, tracing (overlays sync up perfectly), and even Sakimichan wrote a long post calling him out. Makes him an even bigger hypocrite because he would call out others for tracing when he was doing the same thing
He's since learned his lesson though, and he deleted all that traced and copied art, but let's not pretend he's innocent

THE SECOND GITS MOVIE IS SEVERELY UNDERRATED

ITS AN INDICTMENT OF NIP OTAKU LOLI CULTURE

NO MAJOR UNTIL THE END OF THE MOVIE, JACKED INTO AN UNRECOGNIZABLE SEXBOT BODY, ONLY HER VOICE

ABSOLUTE NEGATIVE FANSERVICE, OSHII IS A MADMAN THAT MAKES ANNO LOOK LIKE A BABBY

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It's also a fucking visual masterpiece.

Why do 40-year-old boomer weebs love GitS so much?
Just let it die.

Begone, hipster contrarian.

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>Netflix

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I don't think anyone even wants any more GitS. The movies and anime have aged well and it doesn't need more characters or lore.

I love ghost in the shell but yeah if the series ended at solid state society, nothing at all would have been different for me
I really don't see a point in the constant reboots, it had its run with the manga series, three movies and the tv show, it's not lupin the iiird which can just keep going forever

The movies definitely had an end point but the series didn't and since it's format was partially procedural, it always felt open to more.

It just needs to be *good*

This. Ghost in the SJW

Look how stupid you are.

No politics in Ghost in the Shell please!!!!

>Ilya Kuvshinow
he actually did it

the absolute madman

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Only the original release from 1995 is worth watching. Ignore everything else.

>Cuter than monkey Arise Major
We're reaching manga levels and this shouldn't be possible. Too bad it's netflix.

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how are they gonna handle this scene?

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Why would they handle something that already happened? It's not a reboot or a remake. It's a sequel.

the score is great too

youtu.be/ZhcWEhVStoQ

Netflix is worse than shadman.

I wish Oshii would come back and do a CGI animated GITS!!!FACT!!!

Nah

>ywn be offered sex by mamma motoko
why even live?

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Gonna hold judgment til I see it in action.

It's a sequel not a remake. They don't have the balls to remake SAC.

Probably this

Who is gonna get blacked?

>jewflix

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crybaby is not nearly as good as the old series, so no, its trash

Netflix just pays for shit.
Crybaby was fine, and this is actually made by people in the industry and not a bunch of pigdog Americans.

>when the retard says based retard and uses anime reaction image
CRINGECRINGECRINGECRINGECRINGE
HAVSEXSEXHAVESEXHAVESEXHAVESEX

Unfortunately this. Netflix has shown they don't have the brains to resist executive meddling and let anime studios do what they do best. Somehow they think they can do anime better than Japan does.

THEY DONT HAVE THE SACK

My favorite scene in innocence is when Batou and Togusa go to the north and are in the city. The imagery and score is haunting and beautiful. My favorite moment is when Togusa see's the kids running and he regards them for a moment. It's mournful and forlorn. I think of it often!!!FACT!!! youtu.be/8PwEkfF2POA

They literally don't have creative input, they just fund it to get exclusive streaming rights

have sex

Even Older Motoko in arise?

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anyone is open to anything as long as its good. its just that nothings good anymore, and no one seems interested in making things good anymore.

Kuvshinov Ilya?

ye

Did somebody say twirling androids?

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same face artist

welp

+1

why tracer is on gits?

I'm hoping she's just designing the Major, which I would be fine with since she's supposed to be gorgeous in SAC and 2nd Gig, especially in comparison to all the regular schlubs in Section 9.

If ALL of the designs are like hers then yeah that's a problem.

>she

bump

Its pretty but I remember getting confused by the plot.

He's not using the original images as references for poses, clothes etc. He's drawing on top of the original to recreate it and claim it's his own.

based

That's fucking weird man. Some of those I would say are obviously an hommage, where the viewer is supposed to recognize the reference, Family Guy style. Rachel from Blade Runner for example, did he try to pass that off as a complete original? That would be super retarded. Her smoking in that ray of light illuminating the cigarette smoke, that's an iconic scene.

Copying other unknown artist's poses is a whole different thing though, that is lowest of the low scumbag tier. Using cosplay photos is just drawing from life, though he should also credit the photographer and model in that case. Which if he didn't do that is a total scumbag thing to do as well.

don't know about the rest, but that guy is super talented, i love that art style

It's time to correct the errors of the past...

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Except if you knew anything about art and drawing you would know that's literally impossible for several of those comparisons like the Yoko one for instance.

Some people have skill in art and like reproducing art enjoy.

>they enjoy

This.

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It's not his art style though is it

>Castlevania
>Bladerunner
>Cowboy Bebop
>MST3K
>Ghost in the Shell

Netflix really is a harsh reminder of how much life can just suck for no reason.
10 to 15 years ago I would have been stoked for these IP's/Franchises to not only be pursued for reboots/sequels/more content, but the company pursuing them being as wealthy and resource-rich as Netflix would have made me ecstatic.
Then Netflix is able to take this scenario, which SHOULD be an incredibly opportunity, and machine-out SJW trash.

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if /ic/ retards still can't understand this, i wouldn't expect Yea Forums ones to do it

>Kenji Kamiyama
Fuck yes
>Shinji Aramaki
>3DCG
Fuck no

Spook in the Shell

Devilman Crybaby was awesome tho

3DCG in anime ALWAYS sucks
Japan can't do cgi

>full CG
>Arise designs

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What a boring cover. The DVD I got looks way cooler. This new Netflix show looks cool too, hopefully not boring like that shitty movie turned out to be.

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I'm foolishly optimistic for an addition to my favorite anime.

young looking cougar Motoko > juvenile Motoko

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Kamiyama is on board so it can't really be shit, at worst it will be kinda good.

EVERY SINGLE ANIMATED FILM ON NETFLIX HAS REALLY REALLY QUIET SOUND EFFECTS

SAC with appleseed 2004 and CGI?
could be really good

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>Netflix really is a harsh reminder of how much life can just suck for no reason.10 to 15 years ago I would have been stoked for these IP's/Franchises to not only be pursued for reboots/sequels/more content, but the company pursuing them being as wealthy and resource-rich as Netflix would have made me ecstatic.Then Netflix is able to take this scenario, which SHOULD be an incredibly opportunity, and machine-out SJW trash.

I feel the same way. Like you said, 10-15 years ago there might have been a chance of something good being made. But today it's be agenda driven political bullshit!!!FACT!!!

>It is unambiguously not questionable
i'll take a reference

>Japs are muttified in GitS
show are you watching?

Finally we will get to see an anime that is not based from a perspective of a cis white male

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>netflix
>Ilya 'sameface' Kuvshinow
its gonna be shit

>tracing is using references

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only reason I want another GITS is so it replaces the other recent franchises in the public eye and serves as a good jumping-on point for my pleb friends & acquaintances

>Netflix
>from “Ultraman” directors Shinji Aramaki and Kenji Kamiyama
>relative animation newcomer Ilya Kuvshinow will head character design on the show
>fully-animated in 3DCG
Sounds like it will be ass.

Not all of these examples are strictly bad in an artistic sense, but they're all totally derivative. There's a difference between using a reference to create your own art and fully redrawing someone else's idea.

Ilya is the master of taking other artists work, stealing everything which made it iconic then redrawing it in the shiny new instagram-friendly style. It's depressing that despite being a talented artist, he's decided to become the human equivalent of one of those procedural "cartoonify me" filters.

>Devilman Crybaby is the best animated series in decades
Imagine believing this.
Yup.

>The DVD I got looks way cooler


Is this bait ?

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>Netflix
>"3DCG."
No thanks.

>No HIV+ politics in Ghost in the Shell please!!!!

More soulless digital garbage. Ironically oshii is probably the one who killed traditional animation. I tried watching sac but it's so visually soulless it hurts to watch.

But she used to have a female body and only through cybernetization did she become biologically genderless. Something you cannot claim by being attached to an organic body.
While similar in relation to Identity, cybernetics and mental illness are two different questions.

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100% correct, I have no fate in any modern platform to handle the questions brought up by the original work without heavy handing in their own personal agenda answers.

OK OK Yea Forums Here is most important question:
How many of the cast sudennly gonna be brown/black.
My bet is only fat man Borma and maybe maybe Togusa.
Batou gonna be nig but only if Makoto is whiteish.

Fug digits wasted on mistake:
>My bet is only fat man Borma and maybe maybe Togusa gona be white

Not true. Netflix does release a lot of crap but sometimes they actually manage to make good movies as well. This will undoubtedly be nothing but crap though, but the reason isn't because it's made by netflix, but because it's a remake/reboot of an already good movie.

It's not a remake/reboot of the movie.

Who is going to be black washed

I hold this same opinion. When ch is why the new Beserk releases are absolute trash.

The movies kinda sucked visually (though they did make major improvements in the third movie) but yeah the 2016/2017 anime is an absolute travesty, and not just because the CGI. The director and much of the production staff were embarrassingly unqualified and incompetent. They couldn't even accomplish a direct panel-by-panel adaptation with no filler (the approach of the second season) without totally fucking up in every department.

Come again?

My favourite GITS. Nice.

Why does Netflix have to ruin everything.

Aramaki of course.

>traced
>netflix
Netflix was never good but holy shit have quality really fallen so low they're now hiring tracers? Seriously? What the fuck

this, unironically

Did you even read his entire post....

get outta here, newfag

ITS JUST NOT FUCKING FAIR

Looks like shit
Just like anything Netflix produced

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>Japanese CGI Series on a TV budget

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no it wasn't
apart from the OST

>improvement is a no-no
fuck off retard

>Netflix
I WANT IT ON BLURAY DAMMIT

damn, sasuke looks like THAT?

>Laughing Man Gif.gif

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So it's a sequel/reimagining/whatever. Doesn't matter. The original was good so anything after will only be a poor imitation at best or completely misunderstand what made it good in the first place.

True, they never should have adapted the manga at all.

Absolutely correct.

FPBP
Netflix turns to trash everything they touch.

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hes a russian man

GitS has already had two completely different adaptations which didn't try to imitate the original manga but were still good in their own right. I doubt this one is going to try to imitate it either.

>Announced last December, Netflix has commissioned a new “Ghost in the Shell” reboot titled: “Ghost in the Shell: SAC_2045” from “Ultraman” directors Shinji Aramaki and Kenji Kamiyama. The two confirmed on Tuesday night that relative animation newcomer Ilya Kuvshinow will head character design on the show. Accompanying the announcement, the Netflix team shared the first character artwork with Variety.

Cautiously hopeful but ready for disappointment.

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I wouldn´t trust Netflix alone to adapt this but if Kenji Kamiyama is involved i have no choice.

What is this? I'm pretty sure I've seen it before.

***spook in the cell

Ghost in the Shell is honestly an overrated thing anyway.

>(You)

It's the Blade Runner 2049 short Shinichiro Watanabe did. I think he's working on a full series now.

MY BOY ILYA BLOWIN UP

kek Yea Forums is the last board i expected to btfo /ic/ insects

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I am worried that it is going to get censored since it´s netflix

It's 50/50. All those copies put him on the map as a popular artist. And he didn't really get punished, but a lot of artists called him out for it. But since most of his fans are Facebook normies that like pleb art tricks like chromatic abberation, they didn't care, and his fans were utter retards about it.

> Ilya Kuvshinow
has anyone seen her recent movie?

Here's what they mean by using reference.

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no, he's not. he has a classical art education that means he's just good at copying from references. quit being dumb, user

the original movie is a fucking masterpiece

Even Stuidio FOW did a better job than Netflix.

>The real question is how much (((diversity))) is going to be there
you're a fucking brainlet. ghost in the shell is filled to the brim with liberal and globalist themes.

Even Stuidio FOW did a better job than Netflix lmao.

No doubt.

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That looks like shit AND uses her most cringe costume

Maybe I'll be Tracer.

>That looks like shit
and yet still miles better than Netflix.

>her most cringe costume
There is literally nothing wrong with SAC outfit unless you're a colossal faggot.

>that lain

absolutely disgusting

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not the same artist

Everyone knows it's gonna be utter trash probably even the Netflix people themselves.
FFS Netflix you customers are single women, make shows targeted to them instead of trying to ruin anime classics.

Honestly even my normie friends are aware that the netflix logo means its shit, its becoming a meme outside this place.

I'm already Tracer

>some spambot advertising thread gets 200+ replies and doesn't get purged

Yea Forums is truly dead.

>3D

Into the trash.

>teachers told me not to trace as a teenager
meanwhile working for Netflix