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first for Shae

Look everyone, it's Dany!

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Let the general hibernate already, this is tiring

shut up

Dany!

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I could have saved her

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>I apologise niece, but I did not rot in a Frey dungeon for 4 years after trying my best to make up for your fool brother's mistakes just to be told to sit down by a barren Bolton-Lannister whore. By what authority do you speak? The North is in ruins. You sit in power purely by virtue of our mutual allies in the Vale, on which your hold is tenuous at best. By what rights do you command your elder and better to sit?

I WANT MUH GOD-DAMN QUEEN BACK KINVARA, NOW GET TO WORK!

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no u

Fake drama due to fake views on incest ruined the perfect power couple.

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Why did this cunt have so much influence and respect by the other lords while she only had like 100 soldiers?

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>ITT abandoned foreshadowing
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because she ANSAD DA COLL

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AH DUN WAN IT

A SAYIAN HORDE FRIEZA!! ON AN OPEN FIIIIEEELLDD

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She didn't really have that much influence. They were just humoring her because she was the one currently at the head of her family. And she had a hundred guys. Another hundred to add to your thousands is better than nothing.

Plus it was an excuse to see her eventually get wrecked.

What's D&D's message on love here?
>Love is give and take
>Dany gives jon everything
>Jon gives her nothing
>we're supposed to believe Jon is broken up about killing her, and that he did nothing wrong
Absolutely disgusting

>Your father was an important man. His lands were not.

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Woodes Rogers would have made a better king than any the rest of those twats.

>That night, after the plates had been cleared, Robb carried Bran up to bed himself. Grey Wind led the way, and Summer came close behind. His brother was strong for his age, and Bran was as light as a bundle of rags, but the stairs were steep and dark, and Robb was breathing hard by the time they reached the top. He put Bran into bed, covered him with blankets, and blew out the candle. For a time Robb sat beside him in the dark. Bran wanted to talk to him, but he did not know what to say. “We’ll find a horse for you, I promise,” Robb whispered at last. “Are they ever coming back?” Bran asked him. “Yes,” Robb said with such hope in his voice that Bran knew he was hearing his brother and not just Robb the Lord. “Mother will be home soon. Maybe we can ride out to meet her when she comes. Wouldn’t that surprise her, to see you ahorse?” Even in the dark room, Bran could feel his brother’s smile. “And afterward, we’ll ride north to see the Wall. We won’t even tell Jon we’re coming, we’ll just be there one day, you and me. It will be an adventure.” “An adventure,” Bran repeated wistfully. He heard his brother sob. The room was so dark he could not see the tears on Robb’s face, so he reached out and found his hand. Their fingers twined together.
Try and name a purer relationship, I dare you.

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book jon is gonna do the exact opposite

>oh hello dragon lady? you want to fight the lannisters? sure, time to bring some destruction
>oh i am a targ? excellent now I can order everyone to come help me fight the GOD DAMN OTHERS
>oh dany burned the people who cheered for uncle ned? well fuck them, now I can marry dany in peace

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The only thing Dany asked Jon to do was not tell his faggot cousins the truth, and he couldn't even do that. Almost none of Jon's behavior towards Dany carried over from season 7. He's almost a completely different person. It's disgusting how the main characters were treated by D&D this season.

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>she won't tell
>tells tyrion two scenes later

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>More space wine your grace?

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I miss tsundere dany...

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Why are normies pretending the first two episodes are good? All of S8 is equally garbage.

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The Ginyu Force were based desu

She only even had to ask him that because he poisoned her image in the north and wasn't willing to step up and be king with her, she's supposed to be a bad guy for not wanting to be assassinated

Then, when Jon's actions cause nothing but trouble, D&D had him go to Dragonstone so he could do...nothing. He didn't comfort Dany about Rhaegal or Missandei's deaths. He didn't acknowledge that he made a mistake. He didn't care that Varys was trying to starve Dany. He didn't care that Dany hadn't eaten in days. D&D just put him on Dragonstone to kick Dany while she was down one last time.

Jon would never act like that.

>only 6 episode for your final season
>spends the entirety of the first episode reintroducing all of your characters
>they do the same fucking thing in episode 2

Character enters scene, says something "bad ass", scene ends. My friends are defending this.
Any movies about being surrounded by people with whom you'll never connect?

AAAAAAGGGGHHHHHH GINYU HELP ME

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If Jon got there, tried to convince her it was ok to eat, ate Varys' poison and died, it would've been actually dramatic and not ruined Jon's character

Post photos of the cast before I piss meself

The funnier the better

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Well my mistake for assuming George wanted people to actually discuss, debate and figure shit out from his books. Turns out it's just as shallow and tropey as anything else

>Ha, GAY. Dabid, what do we do with this?
>Cut it, there's no time, only 73 hours. Here's the third draft on the "Ros blowjob #5" scene

Do you think we'll see Craster's Castle in the novels again?

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Shae of House Hoare. She's the funny one in the family

Normal ending
>Jon kills Dany and is banished to the wall

Evil Ending:
>Jon joins Dany and conquers Westeros and the world:

Good/True ending:
>Jon and Dany run off together and forget the throne

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What's the name of Bronn's house anyway?

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>>Jon joins Dany and conquers Westeros and the world:
I wish more people would realize that she had absolutely 0 chance of conquering the world

Of the Blackwater.
That isn't his sigil, either. It's chain burning with wildfire over a smokey gray field.
You can see it on the wiki, I can't save it because it saves as some weird webfile or something

"Of the Blackwater"

So I legit haven't been here since the final episode aired.

I am still gob-smacked at how bad the last season was. Honestly, what is there to even say at this point?

Have D&D responded to any of the criticisms leveled against their turd of a season?

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Blackwater?

Just like Westeros has 0 chance of being peaceful after the finale. Suspend your disbelief or whatever

They're hiding. The cast are doing a convention soon, and D&D won't be there.

They actually gave him a sigil of his own in the very last episode, it appears next to Jerome Flynn's name in the opening sequence

What happened to this guy again

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Enhanced normal ending
>Jon kills Dany and then himself because he knows it must be done yet cannot bear betraying and leaving another lover

Now post the non photoshopped version that shows kit's actual height

I didn't see that, just talking about the canon sigil

He died, ill and probably in pain

Best/One True Ending:
>Jon stabs Dany with Longclaw and encases the body in a block of ice, flies Drogon back to Volantis, flies him back to Winterfell with Kinvara, puts Brienne in chains and tortures her for information, finds Stannis' bones, has Kinvara revive him, defrosts Dany's body, revives Qyburn, has Qyburn attach Dany's flesh and skin to Stannis' skeleton (with spare bits from various ginger minges to make up for the height difference), kneels to the One True God King CUTE Stannis

They're letting normies come up with defenses rather than doing it themselves, it works better

user.......

The chain wasn't in the show so they used a fire arrow instead

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>the joke

>your head

Doreah best girl

Did they? I forgot.

It was better than season 5 and 7

I'm still reeling because I'm a NEET and have nothing better to be concerned about.

No, rather than using a chain Bronn uses an arrow to ignite the boat full of wildfire, so it makes sense his sigil is a flaming arrow instead

Ultimate Ending with S7 Jon:
>Jon joins Dany, beds her for fifty days and fifty nights, driving his sword into her living womb, creating the child known as Lightbringer

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Was Khal Drogo also killed that quickly in the books? He would have been such a great character if he was fleshed out more. Overall he was underwhelming.

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"Bronn's house" literally

>Me playing along with the joke

>Your head

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Yes, first season is a straight port.

Pretty much the same thing

Jason did have his revenge on dabid when he challenged him to a slap game, sending him to the hospital as he broke his hands
youtu.be/puxjtmU7H70?t=78

Why did we barely even get Jon’s reaction to his identity? He has one line about Ned lying to him and that’s it. He should be having a huge identity crisis, but it’s all about making Dany go crazy

fucking gross
looks like a goat crossed with a 90 year old woman crossed with a AIDS patient

Not at all. Every problem with season 7 was multiplied by a million in season 8, and almost nothing had a satisfying payoff. The action wasn't even good either.

100% better than 7, 100% better than season 5 episode 1,2,3,4,5,6.

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>He should be having a huge identity crisis, but it’s all about making Dany go crazy
Yep. The showrunners didn't care about showing us what Jon thinks about anything. R+L=J existed solely so he could treat Dany like shit for no reason. Instead of having a single scene where Jon talks to Dany about their family history, we get shit like Bronn teleporting to Winterfell with a loaded crossbow.

Would this have been a better ending?

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Jon and Dany having a few conversations would make the whole season impossible unless Jon dies somehow and there's no way they were gonna kill him off

>hundreds will die

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It wasn't, but it was close enough to it.

Sorry there is no way they didn’t fuck, don’t care who’s married

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When does GoT Genisys comes out? gurm said the lands of always winter may contain some secrets of old that can affect the fabric of magic and time

Crazy how the same guy who wrote “the more she drank, the more she shat, and the more she shat, the thirstier she became” could pen something this hauntingly beautiful

Why would he want to fuck that old hag?

Yeah. He's even less of a character in the books.

Momoas charisma makes it a much better character than it actually is.

Cause she cute

Why didn’t ginyu just take friezas body

never forget that arya butchered and cooked people.
>But her killing Cercei would have been one step too far

As infamous as the dysentery scene was, it's far from the worst thing he has written.
>Ser Alliser Thorne walked from the room so stiffly it looked as though he had a dagger up his butt.

extremely cursed image

Cersei is a woman. That's not punching up.

The Dothraki are truly worthless and nobody cares about Drogo outside of Conan the Barbarian fags. Other than that, he's completely uninteresting as a standalone character.

I just realized Drogo wasn't in any of the house of undying visions in the book, they added him in the show for the of a cameo.
I think Jon got more references than him

t. captain cringe

Imagine thinking drogo was anything like
Conan. You obviously didn’t see the movie

Nice! Which thrones youtubers do you watch?

>tfw Edmure is the uncle of the Lord of the Vale and the uncle of the Lady of the North
>If Arya married Gendry he would also be the uncle of the Lord of the Stormlands
Wait was Edmure actually in a position of power here? He's got close family ties to half the lords paramount

>gorillions

he would be the perfect puppet king and it would be ironic as Walder finally would be achieving all he wanted post humorously

none, every man must standalone
reading the books after watching season 1-5 made me confused with all the inconsistencies and now I can't remember what happened and what didn't happen in the books

How did Euron build so many ships so quickly in-between seasons, and why can only he do it?

Why didn't Dany just build an equal amount of ships? Or even MORE ships?

>post humorously
Get the fuck out of here you ugly little goblin, baking his sons into pies was not funny

for every 7 virigins he throws to the sea, he gets a ship

Yes, the joke is that Edmure is a powerful lord, but he is reduced to laughing stock.

Since I didn't read the books, i'm not sure how much of it is because of D&D, but i can guess

D&D kinda forgot that there are not trees on the Iron Islands

I guess you wouldn't last long.

...Where the fuck did the Ironborn get their ships from during the 300 years they were not allowed to raid Westeros then?

>Lets put the women and children in a crypt full of dead people

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There are trees, but still they manufactured the largest fleet in Westeros overnight, then ambushed the Redwyne/Targaryen/Dornish fleets on several occasions without taking any major casualties.

Euron is the greatest organizational and military genius of all time

Melisandre's ability to light thousands of swords on fire at once could have been really useful for Stannis...

REEK LOYAL REEK GOOD REEK I'VE ALWAYS BEEN REEK

lmao rek'd

Euron is no doubt going to absolutely massacre the Hightowers in Winds and steal whatever shit they've got in the Citadel? I'm curious what cool things he'll find in there. No doubt this will overlap with one of Sam's POV chapters. Maybe this means Pate is working for Euron?

So guys, how much of this stuff with the deep ones' oily black stone cities, winged men, lizard-people, bloodless men do you think is true? There's absolutely no reason not to take it at face value given that warlocks, dragons, white walkers, and vaginal shadow spawn are shown to be real, which kinda mutes Fatman's point of representing superstitions of medieval people about far away lands.

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Winter COLD.
What do? Burn swords, or burn daughter.
The answer is clear: burn daughter

>no doubt
Idk he has to get through the Redwynes first, right? And the Hightowers are pretty powerful in their own right. I think he'll pull off some raid and do serious damage to Oldtown, but he's not just going to roll up and take the whole city+The Hightower* like he did with the Shield Islands.

*Bravo George, 10/10 creative naming

Dunno bout the rest but squishers are 100% real

I believe in Squishers.

We know that the oily black walls are real (Volantis and parts of Oldtown have them). Seems logical that someone might have built a city out of the stuff.

Isn't the Battle of Blood with him summoning whatever exactly he is going to summon going to happen before that? Assuming he even survives it.

>dude GRRM is a piece of shit for not finishing the books! Fuck him! Give the money back!
but pat you didn't read the books or watch the show. Why do you care?
>SHUT THE FUCK UP JUST GIVE THE MONEY BACK WHAT HE DID IS THEFT!

Can someone explain this mind goblin patlogic?

Yeah, some people think he's going to use some mass blood sacrifice to summon a kraken.

No, the black stone in Volantis and Oldtown are because they are Valyrian. Valyrian architecture involved dragonfire, and the result was smooth, fused black stone. It is also found at the Five Forts in the east.
The Oily Black Stone is different, Yeen and Asshai are made of it, as well as the giant toad statue at the Isle of Toads, as well as the Seastone Chair that washed up on the Iron Isles.

In my opinion it seems more likely that he isn't "summoning" a kraken, magic is rising and krakens have been very active in the southern region based on reports. He's got a giant cog filled with blood to chum the water and get it to show up. That is when the "sacrifice" part actually starts and he kills all the priests to warg the kraken or something

>Creepy giant black stone just so happened to wash up on the Iron Islands

This is what I love about the Iron Born and House Greyjoy, they've got a very Lovecraftian vibe towards them.

Oh, I thought they were the same thing. My bad.

It's fine. It gets confusing.

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You made me smile user, good one

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>Euron controlling a kraken
Long-term this would be a really cool way for Dany to lose a dragon.
>Rhaegal flies low over the water, not knowing what's beneath the surface
>Gets absolutely fucked up by Euron's kraken
Or at least it would be cooler than heat-seaking anti-aircraft missiles

>Let's make concessions with slave owners, I'm such a great negotiator because I drink wine and read books lmao
For a jaded cynic, he turned into a delusional retard unexplicably fast.

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GRRM said that Essos doesn't connect to Westeros. I don't know if it's this man's intention, but I just want to put that out there.

Not to mention his sudden concern for Cersei and the lords/ladies in the Red Keep. You know, the people who publicly humiliated him while he was being framed for murder and who he said he wanted to poison.

Yeah I know. It's still the only thing that makes sense. You can't have cultures that different mirror each other that closely purely for some sort of artistic irony that everyone is the same with the same problems or some shit.

I think the only good advice Tyrion gave Dany was not burning down Yunkai and Astapor. Almost everything else that came out of his mouth was garbage. He didn't even handle The King in The North properly.

When he told Dany not to save Jon that was the right call

It's weird how everyone in Westeros speaks the same language

I can't remember what exactly the deal was.
Tyrion told them they should abandon slavery within seven years.
And.... that's it.
They never had any real reason to actually go through with that, except for an implied threat Dany would attack them, but of course if she sails to Westeros this will never happen.

but it was his idea to go on that mission to begin with

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True, but it was Tyrion's horrible plan to capture a wight in the first place. He also let a potential ally, who had two (potentially three) kingdoms backing him, go on a suicide mission.
There are numerous parallels between Essos and Westeros, but we all know GRRM is never going to tie all the lore together

> jon dies
>North forever hates Dany
>but now Dany can burn the Red Keep and Euron
>takes the six kingdoms
>might help the North anyway in Jon's memory but Walkers are stuck behind the Wall
>lets North stay independent
>rules wisely and well with Jorah as her new Hand
Objectively correct

Season 7 was so fucking retarded. Jon should've been on board to blow up cersei and he should've beheaded that dwarf

Not really. The weird thing it's always referenced as "common tongue" instead of Andal. Gurm just couldn't help himself and avoid typical fiction world tropes.

Bronnister

Why would they hate Dany that Jon did some retarded plan to appease cersei and got himself killed? Theres no reason to believe Dany could possibly save him

I blame The Winds of Winter. Cersei just murdered hundreds of people and destroyed the biggest place of worship in the Seven Kingdoms and Daenerys became absolutely stack with the Greyjoys, Martells and Tyrells backing her. The logical next step was Cersei dying after the people of King's Landing rioted, but D&D loved Lena Headey too much to kill her character off and there was nobody to replace her as an antagonist for Dany.

Removing Faegon is where it all really went to shit.

>Why would they hate Dany that Jon did some retarded plan to appease cersei and got himself killed? Theres no reason to believe Dany could possibly save him
There's no reason to believe that Jon died beyond the wall either, if you want to go that route. It's not like he told anybody in the North what he was doing. Sansa has no reason to believe that Dany is telling the truth about how Jon died.

>he should've beheaded that dwarf
But Tyrion referenced a season 1 line. That means they're buddies now and Jon no longer cares about Tyrion helping to murder a bunch of Starks and (as far as he knows) rape Sansa.

That's literally it. Genius, isn't it?

Now I'm curious how normalfags would've reacted to that twist.

Except Jon went there on a mission to get a wight to grt a truce so Dany would be free and clear to ally with him. If he dies, which they'll know since he wouldn't be coming back and Gendry and anyone else at Eastwatch is witness to the mission and what's beyond the Wall, North will blame Dany and Jon's habit of trying to do the right thing and leading by example

There would have been more than a few tweets about a toxic man stealing YAS QUEEN's thunder. Especially since all signs in the books point to him doing really well at the beginning of his invasion of Westeros.

Reminder that the show has revealed that fAegon is nothing but a plot device to make Dany go crazy

>cersei dies
>Night King becomes final antagonist
It probably would've been better, last 2 seasons would be dany trying to consolidate her power and then the kingdoms scrambling to unite in face of the white walkers advancing south somehow.
And the NK would've finally get the fleshing out he deserved.

I agree he's not going to make it but he still might be the real Aegon.
>tfw Dany burns the rightful heir because people like him better than her

He's clearly not. No way Varys got Aegon out but Elia was cool with it or didn't notice

Highly doubt he's real

GRRM likely wanted it this way around because he's apparently obsessed with making his own, shitter version of the scouring of the Shire, stripped of all meaning.

sit uncel

But he had sex.

>tfw we never got that scene of Euron taking a castle and forcing the lord's wife/daughters to serve everyone food while naked

If GRRM wrote in TWO secret Targaryen nephews for Dany, he is an even bigger hack than I thought possible. No way fAegon is real.

>Dude he cut off his sailors' tongues lmao
>What do you mean "how"?
>He's DAMAGED
Why do you fawn over unrealistic edgelords.

>George takes away from scouring that just because you defeated evil doesn't mean men will change or evil goes away
>It's actually an allegory for the weak scum draft dodgers (like himself) and criminals that stay behind and give in to nihilism while the great men go off to war
Pottery

With how terrible season 8 was, it makes you think that they could have done literally anything and it would have been better.

For example, imagine if the Night King turned out to be a huge pervert, and he grabs Sansa and strips her naked and is about to rape her. THEN Arya comes in and stabs and kills him. Bran gets angry and mumbles "it would have been beautiful..."

Edgelords can be fun if they're done right. If they're done wrong you get whatever the fuck we got in the show.

It still doesn't explain how he managed to accomplish that unless his crew were hapless quadriplegics who can't defend themselves.

dude had no lines

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Bear with me in this one: what if the Night King was a huge GAY perv and he took the crippled Bran from behind while his penis hang helplessly between his atrophied legs?

>Memorable
All he did was poorly imitating Oberyn's laid back Chad demeanor.

It would make more sense if his crew cut their own tongues out willingly. I don't see how a crew that can't talk would be anything but a detriment.

>Why did the new prince of Dorne vote for Bran
PEOPLE ARE STILL TRYING TO MAKE SENSE OF THIS SHIT

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very progressive

>willingly
>more sense
You goofed good, mate.

You realize that the explanation is literally magical in origin, right?

People who live in the sisters literally have webbed hands

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Not all of them. They have some name for it, they think it's a blessing from some god or another. It also is prevalent among the Clawmen of that peninsula. I swear I read the Lengi get it as well but I haven't been able to find it since.
The Thousand Islanders are literally fish people

>"The Iron Throne is mine by right. All those who deny that are my foes"
>"The whole realm denies it, from Dorne to the Wall. Old men deny it with their death rattles and unborn children deny it in their mothers' wombs. No one wants you for their King."
>"You never wanted any friends, Night King, but a man without friends is a man without power."
>Night King walks away

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>implying Jon and Dany wouldn't die together trying to conquer the world and be known as the mad dragons couple

Im afraid im gonna need some proof that Emilia Clarke is indeed cute, user

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She cute.

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Where were you when the show basically ended with Bronn being king and nobody noticed?

>Before Bran gets the gig, Edmund puts his hat in the ring to be king. But after Sansa tells him to stfu, and he makes an ass of himself, he realises he’s probably not the man for the job.
Truer words have not been spoken.
cosmopolitan.com/uk/entertainment/a27526297/game-of-thrones-finale-who-is-on-westeros-great-council-voted-bran-king-a-guide/

How will the Night King ever recover?

How did Jon fuck up so bad

So was he supposed to be Quentyn or something?

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Who cares nerd.

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>The Disney Ending
Jon and Dany ruling.
>The REAL Ending
Jon kills Dany. Then, Jon isn't killed by Drogon. Jon and Tyrion aren't killed by the Unsullied or the Dothraki. They are held prisoner by Grey Worm so they can get a trial that will clearly be unfair. Then Tyrion, as a prisoner, is able to convince the lords of Westeros to form an elective monarchy. Then Tyrion is able to convince the lords of Westeros to vote for Bran as king for no reason. Then Sansa secedes for free, immediately undermining Bran's authority. Then Jon is sent to the Wall. Then Bronn becomes Lord of Highgarden and Master of Coin for no reason. Then Sam becomes Grand Maester for no reason, despite breaking all his vows and having zero experience. Then all the Stark kids get what they always wanted: Arya gets to go on a suicide adventure, despite having a brother who can see everything; Sansa gets to be Queen of an independent North that has been devastated by war; Bran gets to be a great king, despite showing zero leadership skills whatsoever; and Jon gets to live beyond the wall, which is what he wanted all along (because we were told so a few episodes ago). Oh, and Drogon just leaves peacefully and the Dothraki are just there.

I am so glad we didn't get the fairy tale ending that defies everything we know about the series! King Bran will fucking suck in the books, too.

>implying we didnt get a shitty Disney ending anyway
They only fucked Jon and Dany endings

At absolute minimum, the guy who played the role, and me. If Oberyn and Doran had a younger brother, why didn't the Sand Snakes murder him like they did the rest of their family? What was he doing sex tourism in Bravos or something?

>Weak men will never rule Dorne again!
>The last time we see a Dornishman in the series, he has no speaking lines
YIKES.

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What I get out of that video is that Bronn basically replaced the Tyrells, and that's about it.

For all the power and money the Tyrells had, they still weren't able to deal with the High Sparrow and King Tommen, and at that point Mace Tyrell was master of coins too.

Do you not understand sarcasm?

Im sorry, im just mas that whenever i say that the ending sucked some faggot comes and be like "MUH IF YOU THINK A HAPPY ENDING WOULD HAPPEN YOU WERENT WATCHING GOT"

Mace Tyrell was as dumb as a sack of hammers, it was Olenna who was smart. And if you look at it objectively, they basically came an inch away from running the continent three times just in the timeframe of the story alone. They were influential before Robert's Rebellion, but they picked the wrong side and so Bobby B shut them out afterwards. Then they almost take over the kingdom by marrying Marg to Joffrey, but then Joffrey caught a case of the dead. THEN they do it AGAIN with Tommen, but get narrowly cut out by Cersei's autism and a bunch of religious fanatics.

Then, even after Olenna and Mace and Loras and all these other people are blown up, the goddamn Tarleys come within an inch of being the dominant military power in Westeros before Dany nukes them with hellfire.

But now, all of the same institutions are still in place, except the Riverlands probably looks like a demilitarized zone, Dorne has lost all of its leadership, I don't even know who is running the Westerlands, The Vale is being run by the surprisingly well aged Robert, and Highgarden is being run by Big Boss. The North isn't even part of the country anymore.

The Chad Bronn. The Virgin Bran.

The Tyrells also allied with the much loved Renly, but that ended with Shadow Baby Ex Machina.

>Joffrey, but then Joffrey caught a case of the dead. THEN they do it AGAIN with Tommen
Those aren't two separate times they almost came to power. They saw that they weren't going to be able to rule by proxy through Joffrey, so they killed him. Marrying Tommen is literally the exact same plan

He was a traitor and he was destroyed. I think everyone can agree on that.

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Tbh at this point, I’m kind of glad GOT crashed and burned. I’m not reading any of that fat fucks books, but it made me remember how much joy I got out of reading by trying out other series. I might even start writing for fun again. Maybe it’s just coping but it feels good.

>HOW ABOUT I JUST KILL HIM OFF WITH DEUS EX MACHINA SHADOW BABY
Nailed it

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>but then Joffrey caught a case of the dead
They're the ones who killed Joffrey though

This. Renlyfags need to be exterminated.

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Stannis never would defeat Renly in the battlefield

>Attempt to marry someone to Aerys
>Attempt to marry someone to Rhaegar
>Attempt to marry someone to Bobby
>Attempt to marry someone to Joffrey
>Attempt to marry someone to Tommen
>Finally succeed, Tommen explodes killing your entire family
>Some nigger who became a knight last week ends up running your entire country

The absolute state of the Tyrells.

Smirkfu is so cute, but her tits are a big let-down.

>kills his brother with black magic
>all his brothers bannermen love him anyway
why was stannis such a mary sue?

You mean blackedfu?

Why Bobert was such a cunt to Stannis?

It is really weird how Stannis is implied to have this completely unstoppable method of assassinating people but he only uses it on Renly and that castellan at Storm's End (Penrose?). Seems like he could have just done this to Tywin and saved himself a lot of trouble.

Why didn’t Mel just make a shadow baby and tell it to kill the NK for her

>Stannis "The Nigger Gravedigger" Baratheon losing to his brother who has literally never led troops into combat

Yikes.

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cope

If the show created Shadow Baby, people would cry, "Bullshit!" GRRM gets a pass because he is the one who created that bullshit.

Renly had at least 5x more men

Nobody knows it was with black magic. Most people think it was Brienne, working with Catelyn. Since the Lannisters' official story at that point was that Ned had tried to install Stannis as king, it makes sense.

Dragonfire didn't kill him, would cursed shadow magic work? Apparently only hunchbacked goblins with valyrian steel can kill the night king.

Renly had an insane numerical advantage and a competent commander (Tarly) actually commanding his forces.

>valyrian steel is special because it was forged with dragonfire
>actual dragonfire somehow does nothing

And Stannis nearly took the most fortified city in the realm that had 10x men as him after getting nuked by Jewish napalm.

He's like if Zhuge Liang and Marcus Aurelius had an autistic baby and raised him Presbyterian.

>i'm mad they helped the guy we're fighting become king
>hey lets go help him become king
stannis was literally the biggest mary sue in history.

As Stannis lay dying in the snow, after burning his own daughter alive to win a battle, and leading what few men still followed him into a suicide mission, Brienne came to him. His last dying memory as her sword sliced his throat was the thought of Renly laughing at him. "Is he a ham?"

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The best part of the entire Baratheon storyline is that if you combined Bobby Renly and Stannis into one person, he would objectively be the greatest king imaginable.

>Heroic, powerful, courageous
>Empathetic, noble, diplomatic
>Legalistic, honorable, intelligent

The Baratheon triplets were each 1/3rd of the ultimate monarch.

>Attempt to marry someone to Aerys
>Attempt to marry someone to Rhaegar
Who?

Immediately killing Renly with a shadow baby was very short-sighted.

Why didn't Stannis just join forces with Renly and let him take over the Iron Throne. And then give Renly a case of the shadow baby magic once he's in power and after maybe 5-6 months have passed, thus making himself the new king.

Or at the very least, he could have let Renly fight it out with a bunch of Lannister forces first. Then in-between some of the battles, a shadow baby kills Renly, and everyone thinks it was a Lannister assassin.

fuck, rereading the series and at clash of kings
bran chapters are shit

Stannis remembers me alot of Rock Lee (from Naruto). They both went until the last consequences, they both was determined and ambitious but actually they never won a single battle

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>valyrian steel is special because it was forged with dragonfire
And blood sacrifice and magic spells desu

He might be confusing Cersei getting short ended for Elia Martell, though I think they mention in World that the Tyrells were gunning for Rhaeg before the Dornish got him.

sasuga ESL-kun.

Do you understand now that Bran King is retarded no matter what? Not accusing you of believing that but a lot of anons think it's just a pacing problem and that George can totally pull it off in a satisfactory way

>Why did Stannis refuse to compromise

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>>Empathetic, noble, diplomatic
He was neither of was. It just happened that Robert in his autustic hatred of Stannis gave the Stormlands to Renly, and Renly, being a malleable bachelor fool, was a great tool in Tyrells' plan to supplant Lannisters as the family behind the ruling monarch.

>Tyrells were gunning for Rhaeg
With who? Mace's sister?

fuck you, Dany will be queen in the books and it will be beautiful.

Jon will have an important title too, like hand of the queen, or warden of the north

You make a great point. Renly was a sissy and couldn't get it up for his wife, so an heir is less likely. He should have just teamed up with Renly against the Lannisters, and then shadow baby's him.

Stannis at least is shown to be a capable politician/strategist as well as a military commander. He just gets utterly fucked over by Bobby B making him marry a girl from such a useless fucking house.

I think King Bran is terrible in show, but maybe could work if both jon and dany die or they run off, and he isn't a dune ripoff like in the show

Now that the dust has settled, what do you think of Emilia Clarke's body of work?

Bran King goes against everyfuckingthing George has ever said about conflict in the human heart, what it takes to be a good ruler and his gripe about muh taxes. What's Bran's tax? How do we know Bran will be a good king? What inner conflict inside of Bran deals with leadership and rule and says he'd be good? What qualities does Bran possess that would make him a good king? All that shit is glossed over with Bran just plagiarizing and aping other kings and their policies.

Fuck George.

Stannis chose his brother over the lawful king the last time when the outcome was still uncertain. Why not do the same thing here, where the Tyrell-Baratheon alliance literally can't lose?

If she finds out that Jon is a Targaryen (which is highly likely), she would be better off marrying him. But we all know none of this matters, because Bran will be King.

A good king needs to be crippled

>she would be better off marrying him
I've honestly forgotten whether or not they even tried to explain why this wasn't an option. And it can't be
>muh incest
Because both Tywin's parents and Ned's parents were cousins and they were probably the most respected lords in Westeros.

He didn't compromise then. It was his familial duty, and he explained it in length.

That's true in show since becomes an inhuman monster character you're supposed to think is good, but I doubt George will write him as being omniscient and having the world's memory or whatever like in the show, I don't even expect the hodor thing to be in the books

Are we supposed to believe that all of Westeros bends the knee to a preteen weirdo with no claim to the throne? Bran could be a useful advisor, but there is no reason for him to actually be King.

Mostly shit, but it's never her fault. And she's always CUTE

The only quality Renly had was that everyone liked him. He was charismatic, but he was also dumb and inept, Robert gave him the Stormlands precisely because he wasn't a serious threat, Stannis was always the most capable of the brothers, but his autistic sense of duty meant that no matter how badly Robert treated him, he would never betray him because he was a creature of principle.

Renly on the other hand was an opportunistic faggot, he was perfectly willing to tell Stannis to eat shit and bend the knee--but he was also a stupid asshole and an incompetent commander. I honestly think the shadow-baby assassin thing was stupid, the way that story should have played out was that Stannis should have met him in the field outnumbered 5:1, and then kicked the living shit out of him anyway through sheer skill of command.

This would have established Stannis as a danger so severe that only Tyrion's inventive tactics could defeat him. Instead, we got Stannis painted as a cheater, which is the exact opposite of his character.

standing on a mound and on his toes

manlets. when will they learn?

>Day 1 of the rule of King Bran
>Either some Reach lord claims Highgarden, or maybe they all actually follow Bronn
>The Reach army takes the completely undefended Riverlands, Stormlands, Crownlands, Westerlands, probably the Iron Islands while they're at it since the Ironborn no longer have a fleet
>Dorne and the Vale declare independence
>The end

The Hodor thing is happening since that came from George as one of the three Holy Shit moments that came up when they were going through each character so D&D could go ahead of the books. Bran is already training to be able to see beyond the trees and can already see the past, he'll wind up with the same knowledge shit about being able to look into the past anywhere*. George is a hack. Bran is his special boy touched by something greater than human and filling him with unearthly knowledge so he can be some father nature guiding humanity so they don't repeat mistakes.

*In Westeros anyway

Mel murdered Renly not Stannis in the books I think

>The Reach army
Didn't you hear user? Reach is empty, no one lives there anymore.

If Stannis does win at Winterfell in the books and he does burn the Godswood so you think the Children/Bloodraven/Bran will do something to fuck him over that will result in him retreating back to the Wall and burning Shireen? What if GRRM has Bran involved (maybe unknowlingly duped by Bloodraven) that could be in the end seen as getting rid of a king so they could get Bran one step closer to being King. It would make sense as some are speculating that Bran the Broken will be a darker ending in the books. (I know they won’t be published but still).

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>I've honestly forgotten whether or not they even tried to explain why this wasn't an option.
They retconned Westeros's views on incest and claimed that Dany's "too strong" for Jon, despite the audience being given solely evidence to the contrary.

It is so bizarre how Jon and Dany never spoke about marriage. The truth was going to come out, and Dany's best options were killing Jon or marrying him, and she didn't want to kill him. The rightful heir and fellow dragon rider falls into Dany's lap, and she doesn't think to marry him a single time? And he has three kingdoms potentially supporting him? And she is in love with him to an unhealthy extent?

>the way that story should have played out was that Stannis should have met him in the field outnumbered 5:1, and then kicked the living shit out of him anyway through sheer skill of command.
>This would have established Stannis as a danger so severe that only Tyrion's inventive tactics could defeat him. Instead, we got Stannis painted as a cheater, which is the exact opposite of his character.
They even sort of set this up with Catelyn pointing out that Renly is treating this whole thing like a game and doesn't seem to be taking the battle even remotely seriously. Maybe Stannis could have won with some help from Mel? She spooks Renly's cavalry with fire or something, leaving his flank exposed, and Stannis just rips them to shreds?

that wylla manderly?

I don't trust anything in the show as canon and I hate the Hodor twist since it means Bran has control of the whole timeline with time travel which cheapens the whole series, I hate that shit. The Hodor hold door always felt like a cheeky asspull to me. Actually yeah this is pretty bad, unless Bran is ruling over an age of magic or something

>despite the audience being given solely evidence to the contrary.
Yeah the whole Jon-Dany relationship is Dany saving him, helping him, and generally doing whatever he wants her to do while expecting nothing in return. Maybe you could explain some of it away as her not wanting to piss off roughly half of her future kingdom but it starts getting silly pretty fast.

Based Hawaiian

Why wasn't Jon being the first member of Dany's Kingsguard a thing? And don't say it has to be in the name of the seven, no one gives a shit about religion anymore according to the show.

well

you memed this into existence

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She's a pretty decent actress in the right roles, but it's not clear she's gotten much better at picking them. But it's okay because she's very cute

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>And don't say it has to be in the name of the seven
Plus I think the Targs follow the seven anyway, that was part of the deal when Aegon the Conqueror asked the High Septon to crown him king.

I'm assuming you're playing as Stannis (not really familiar with CK2, feudalism confuses me). What's your gameplan here? Does Dany still have dragons?

>show has been shit since season 4
>sweetrobin gets a rule an independent kingdom
fair trade, i’ll take it

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Jon is dead, nigger

>I don't have love here
>the only people who don't like Dany are Sansa, Cersei, Sam and later Varys
>Robin doesn't even know who she is and he's the actual lord of the Vale
>Yara's still on her side
>Some new Dornish Prince that never met her is on her side
>none of the Northern Lords talk shit after she fought with them against the dead
>Royce doesn't say anything either
>not even Jaime outright hates Dany
>Gendry is grateful for being legitimized and never showed any animosity to Dany
What did D&D mean by this?

>all the other high lords scheming for power and influence
>Lord Arryn just wants to stay in his castle and play with sansa's tits
Too pure for this world

My head canon is some of it is exaggerated or distorted maybe, but definitely more real than not. I think Sothoryos, Ulthos and far far eastern Essos are full of weird shit we'll never see and I honestly prefer it that way. Keep the mystery intact and let the imagination run wild.

Stannis compromised often though. He wouldn't bend much, but he did bend. He just wasn't a pussy about it like Robert or Renly.

Same goes for Yi Ti and the Five Forts

Maybe she just likes acting so much, she'll take any role that's offered to her.

>tfw she could have been in the most kino MCU movie if this bitch didn't beat her out in the audition.

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>muh power corrupts
>Sansa is literally plotting for power on the eve of zombie apocalypse and gets a disney ending

>First Men worship Old Gods
>Starks defeated Warg King and Marsh King, killed the Children on their side and their greenseers, animals and wargs
What did George mean by this? Why kill the emissaries or priests of your religious deity? Why not make a theocracy and institute the Children or head Greenseer as king or advisor?

She was very good in Solo. I think she could be a really nice black widow.

>this bitch didn't beat her out in the audition.
But then Emilia would've been cucked by her thicc great-aunt in Endgame

That's no surprise. He's a plot device indeed, but a necessary one.

I mean otherwise Dany would have to delay attacking King's Landing for no reason and then go completely insane for absolutely no reason. Can you imagine how terrible that would be?

this mod gave me ptsd
>conquer the free cities as volantis
>dothraki unite or conquer just about everything to my east
>have to fend off tens of thousands of horsemen that are immune to attrition (because paradox lol) while i could only field an army of like 8k before taking severe losses

Tbf if you look at Essos in the books there's really no reason for the Dothraki to not have conquered the free cities by now. Even the irl horse archer barbarian tribes all figured out siege warfare eventually.

Ellaria specifically said Dorne will never again be ruled by weak men. Quentyn was a weak man, so that rules him out. Conversely, this means that the new Prince of Dorne is a strong man.

>Book Ellaria: Revenge won't bring Oberyn back, it will only bring more death and grief.
>Show Ellaria: KILL EVERYONE, ESPECIALLY OBERYN'S BROTHER AND NEPHEW

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oh yeah it's definitely accurate. my complaints were mostly related to the attrition system since i'd usually have the forces to stop the dothraki, but i couldn't put them in one province like they did. instead i'd have like 5 different adjacent stacks of 10-20k to manage versus their single 50k stack of horses.

Its almost like GRRM is actually a good author and in a series as long as ASoIaF there will be moments in which he is just taking the piss

The power (im)balance between Jon and Daenerys is truly bizarre and hilarious. This bitch gave him everything he wanted before he even bent the knee and was in tears when he finally did. Then Jon treats her like shit for the entirety of season 8, and she just takes it on the chin. It literally took him stabbing her to death for her to get the hint that her opinion of him is warped.

Jon in season 8 is like an abusive, gold-digging boyfriend. I don't know how Varys was under the impression that Dany was in control of this relationship.

Why is Kronk so perfect, bros?

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>King Bran
It still hurts

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The voice does 90% of the work
youtube.com/watch?v=NcKGw-IO5Uc

Just got this mod. Whats the best start?

youtube.com/watch?v=EPnZ6yOECCI

Music was still pretty good this season, I gotta admit.

And Jon is probably the dumbest lord in Westeros. Can you imagine if the first lord Dany met was Littlefinger? He would have had her sucking his dick within a day in exchange for considering the possibility of maybe one day pledging allegiance to her.

Remember when we all wanted her dead

We did this

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I just don't understand the sequence of events. Dany goes to Westeros, is convinced by Jon to fight the Others, and then she blows up King's Landing? Or does she kill fAegon and then fight the Others? If that's the case, why blowup King's Landing?

It seems most likely to me that Dany is going to help Jon only to get fucked over in the end, just like in the show. She stops the Others at the Trident, gets no thanks, kills the popular ruler, and then is put out of her misery. Then the 10-year-old Faggot King Bran somehow takes over, and Jon is banished to live with Wildlings for the rest of his life.

Shit sucks.

The Dothraki don't want to live in cities, and I vaguely remember that the cities give offerings to the Dothraki so they don't attack them

Yeah the music has pretty much always been good

(skip to 1:15)
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Sansa is even dumber, because her "brother" had the woman with two dragons wrapped around his finger, and her first instinct was to start a civil war.

What the fuck is wrong with these characters this season?
I only started liking her in season 7. D&D railroading her into a bad ending made me hate them and like her even more. I wanted her to marry Jon and fuck off to parts unknown, but I guess that didn't fit in Bran the Broken's ending.

Always liked the Stark theme, Baratheon one has to be my favorite though.
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Shame it plays so rarely, usually mixed with the Lord of Light one.

So I just started watching GoT. Halfway into season Two. It's very good so far. Some of the sex was a bit much at times, but beyond that no complaints. I heard the show turns to shit at some point. Is it true? If so, at what season should I stop watching and switch to the books?

Daenerys will believe, for a time, that succumbing to the dragons is a good thing – becoming Fire and Blood will free the slaves and destroy the Others. But what do you do when the perfect enemy is gone? Who do you burn?

Many have already compared Dany’s explosive destruction in “The Bells” to the Sack of King’s Landing at the end of Robert’s Rebellion. A wanton slaughter, an unnecessary act of violence and horror all to sate the bruised psyche of the mastermind at the head of the army (Tywin/Dany, respectively). Moreover, the Sack comes after the defeat of the fantasy character, the Dragon, Rhaegar Targaryen. Daenerys dreams of melting the Usurper’s armies at the Trident, but after the Battle at the Ruby Ford, there was a Sack. After the song came a horrorshow, a brutal epilogue. In the show, Cersei sat the throne for the Second Sack. In the books? It could be Cersei, although I think it likely that Young Griff, Aegon VI, will be on the throne. Either way: I doubt Dany will show a lick of mercy.

Imagine this: once again, the mangled body of Aegon VI Targaryen is laid at the base of the Iron Throne after a brutal, terrifying show of force in the streets of King’s Landing. Or even: imagine that Jaime and Cersei, like Rhaenys and Aegon, will lie dead at the foot of the twisted throne, bathed in the light of the conqueror’s star.

Imagine that Jon Snow, like Ned Stark, arrives in the waning hours of the Sack to find what this person he loved has wrought. Daenerys, like Robert, like Tywin, will sit above the murdered children and dare the son of Ned Stark to stop her. Maybe not in so many words, obviously – I expect the show’s take on this scene was close to the books’. But ultimately, it’s about Jon being faced with a choice: is he the son of Rhaegar Targaryen, a dragon, a monarch, a prince, or is he the bastard son of Ned Stark, sworn to Ned’s bloody honor from this day until his last?

Which is cooler Five Forts or The Wall?

This pic is so savage

Many say 5, but then you will miss Hardhome, battle of the bastards and KINGINDANORF
Stop by S6.

based&checked

Popular opinion is season 4, but I don't know what you hope to achieve by switching to the books. Books 4 and 5 are loaded with filler, and they don't wrap anything up either.

Bran will be King. That's the shitty ending. If you think GRRM can salvage it, have fun with your delusion.

Tywin sacked the placed and had the prince and princess brutally killed and displayed to show he was on Robert's side. What's the motive for Dany to just go HAM on anyone and everyone including civilians?

My favorites are Be With Me and The Tower

tl;dr she'll be mad that she is not the chosen one to save the world from others. you can read the full thing here if you want offmichaelsbookshelf.wordpress.com/2019/05/28/this-is-it-the-end-of-game-of-thrones-will-be-the-end-of-asoiaf/

Before I saw the pic I read "uncel" as a portmanteau of Unsullied and incel, which makes an awful lot of sense really.

if only jon gave her a crumb of dick.

Dany burning King's Landing is probably more destructive than everything else that happened on the show COMBINED. She murdered a million people. It was completely ridiculous.

D&D will be looking over their shoulders for the rest of their lives.

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Good advice, thank you.

So season 4 or 5 is when the real decline sets in, I take it then. I'll stop after 5, most likely. I'll leave the rest to my own imagination.

Imagine if you could save hundreds of thousands of lives just by licking Emilia Clarke's pusy.

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season 5 things stop flowing thematically. rebounds somewhat in season 6. season 7 & 8 is a series of stupid decisions and contrivances that largely ruin the show. still entertaining for the spectacle though.

Too bad for them that Rian Johnson subverted Star Wars fans' expectation before they even touched the franchise. They killed all their goodwill and jumped on a sinking boat.

Where are these kikes by the way? They're hiding in Bin laden's cave since the ending

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Hardhome was ass though. A shit wooden barricade holds off thousands of wights. Walker just keeps tossing Jon around. Wildlings don't trust Jon not to kill them on the ship even though they'd outnumber the Watch then remember oh shit there are dead things out to kill us anyway. Wildlings can suddenly kill Wights with regular weapons and slicing their throats.

Battle of the Bastards is also retarded. Davos sends people in to die and abandon the plan. Bodies pile up in impossible ways. No one gives wun wun anything to wield. No one turns on Ramsay after he has his men loose arrows into his own cavalry and Lord Karstark. No one judges Sansa for using Jon's army as bait and getting them killed so the Vale could swoop in. They let themselves get surrounded by Ramsay's men and Ramsay is just left to nock and loose arrows when Jon enters Winterfell despite being right fucking there when people stormed in

King in the North is also retarded because Jon didn't deserve it based on any of his actions and the Lords shouldn't believe any story of his about being killed them resurrected so he's out of the Watch now. They also don't question anything about the enemy who brings the storm and just vow to follow Jon anyway.

Season 8 doesn't even have good spectacle

They were good flashy scenes

Why would she believe she was anyway? Not even in the show does she seem to believe she's the chosen one. And how is being pissed at not being the one to kill the Others mean she'd choose to burn everyone in King's Landing. I'm not clicking that link, you explain it

HE DUNT WUNT EET

i would kill hundreds of thousands just to do that

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...

I would lick her coochie so she could burn peasants with me

loot train, long night, the bells, destruction of the wall, viserion dying. had plenty of spectacle user.

Fucking gay

A lot of word salad to try and say Bran the omniscient chosen one god king who got carried around by everyone letting thousands of people die so he can become king is a good thing