Which one was the cooler movie star?

Formerly [Love Symbol]

famous black people, for whatever reason, are usually trendsetters.

Andre Ice Cold 3000

>WHENNIT COMES TO FUNK

Amen
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Prince was not gay.

>(((for whatever reason)))

They should have recorded together. Would have been fucking epic.

It's not better than Smooth Criminal

he even refused to appear in MJ's Bad clip because it starts with MJ singing "your butt is mine" to the character he was gonna play (eventually played by Wesley Snipes) which is fucking gay

My mom's stepbrother used to be one of Prince's bodyguards.

amazing little factoid user, keep 'em coming

>Black musicians used to actually play instruments and write songs that weren't just monotonous beats

Rap was a mistake

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prince was never as big

Only his batman album is any good. Rest of prince is an overrated snooze fest.

The hell he wasn't are you kidding me

I don't know much else, but I do remember him talking about it once and saying that Prince regularly passed the cute groupies off to the bodyguard crew when he was married/in relationships so he got a lot of girls back then.

>becomes king of pop
hey he's white
>turns out he was a serial kiddy fucker
back to black

MJ was a better dancer and had better pop producers. Prince was a better musician and generally just cooler.

But as far as anyone knows Prince was primarily into fucking adults, so he wins.

WB should use PartyMan more often in their batman related media.

Michael Jackson didn't diddle any kids.
The stories don't match previous testimony, nor do they have any evidence and neither do they lineup with what we know MJ was doing.
The faggots just want money.

mesmerizing never knew he was THAT good

>cut school funding
>music programs are the first to go
>wonder why music is shit

>cut music programs
>BoE does walk through in random nigger school
>cacophony of students beatboxing, rapping and drumming on desks
>job well done

Not only does he play good, he also does it stylish as hell. No doubt has he practiced in front of a mirror to improve his stage presence, it's the reason most street musicians are mostly stationary/sitting, they're so focused on playing the right notes that they don't even consider entertaining the crowd by putting on a show. Not that playing gracefully isn't entertaining on its own, but a great musician who can both play good and have a huge presence at the same time is rare.

>vote for more gibs
>don't pay taxes
>blame whitey for school budget cuts

Yeah, really. Most youtube guitarists are just solely focused on playing the tabs correctly instead of entertaining. Prince was one of a kind.

This fella was something else too.
youtube.com/watch?v=MXwBsxTBxGM

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this is literally just noticing things, do you want a source for the weather report? it's raining. source: eyes:

whatever, its pretty good. but MJ went double platinum

Prince wrote & produced all of his own songs and played all the instruments on most of his albums (MJ was only as good as his producers), directed a couple of (bad) films, and didn't fuck kids. That said, he was just as crazy as Jacko but in a different way.

>loyal to his wife
>loyal to his bros
The one true king

This.

Also Erotic City is all time underrated party jam.

That's not how this works. Many inner cities schools had their funding cut. In most cases, the music programs went first. Guess where a major portion of African-Americans live? Inner cities. You also had musicians like Rick James, Prince, Micheal Jackson and others mentioning this on the issue of sampling.

As much as I hate the faggotry Prince exploited, that motherfucker did have skills. He played pretty much every instrument at a professional level, composed all his own shit, sang without auto-tune, and intentionally used a mixed band on stage to demonstrate he wasn't a militant black, or an uncle Tom. Say what you want about the dude, but he was a legitimate artist and creator, and for that he gets my respect.

Michael, on the other hand, was made completely by other people. They wrote his songs, played all the instruments, and basically made Michael what he eventually became, a corporate designed pop star.

Good for him

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this interview is full of factoids if you have the time to listen to it
youtube.com/watch?v=sxXPXAPRqlc

>Many inner cities schools had their funding cut
>Guess where a major portion of African-Americans live? Inner cities.

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>Michael, on the other hand, was made completely by other people.
He was a fantastic singer and composer
>They wrote his songs,
Not true
>played all the instruments,
Michael didn't need instruments
youtube.com/watch?v=AkjYcgpaS4w
>and basically made Michael what he eventually became, a corporate designed pop star.
The dude was a business mogul too, he came up with the idea to buy beatles' songs rights.

Stop spouting falsehoods

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>Michael Jackson didn't diddle any kids.
yes. He absolutely did.
>The stories don't match previous testimony, nor do they have any evidence and neither do they lineup with what we know MJ was doing.
You don't need to listen to the stories or the "oh the theater room wasn't built yet" autism. You can listen to him grooming the parents. Everything that he did to isolate kids from their family and have alone time with them is what kid diddlers do. He was a systematic kid fucker that built his entire life and house around it. It was obvious in the 90s, it was obvious in the 00s. It was always right there. He wasn't "just a weirdo." He wasn't chemically castrated and asexual. He just liked to fuck kids. Probably because he was fucked as a kid too.

>The faggots just want money.
I'd want money too if I got facefucked by Michael Jackson. Attacking the motivations of the accusers is just whataboutism and literal victim shaming.

You're retarded.
He didn't isolate kids from their parents, in fact, in the 'documentary' where the guy says Michael took him on a plane on his own he's lying because his parents were there with him.
When people said they slept in the same bed as Michael they leave out the fact that he only let that happen when the parents were present and the bed was ginourmous anyway.
He often slept on the floor to not be inthe same bed as them too.
>asexual
Tell that to his exs they all said he was very sexual.

>don't pay taxes
poor people pay WAY more taxes relative to their income than rich people. We just gave a $2 trillion a year tax cut to corporations and the super rich.
>blame whitey for school budget cuts
Who the fuck else would you blame? It's consistently republicans torching budgets to "pay for" all their insane tax cuts.

>he came up with the idea to buy beatles' songs rights
Not quite--he and Paul McCartney were buddies, and when the Beatles catalog went up for sale, Paul tried to hint to him that it would be nice if someone could buy it for him, since he didn't have the money. Michael didn't take the hint and bought the Beatles catalog for himself, and couldn't understand why Paul was offended.

>tfw Captain EO will never get a home release

thriller is up to 33x platinum these days by the way

>You can listen to him grooming the parents.
Literally not an argument. MJ "groomed" everyone and bought everyone near him ridiculously expensive stuff. He was so careless about money he spent all he had.

That's not how this works.

Rap was started by no talent DJ's exploiting the popularity of established songs. It had nothing to do with a "lack of music funding in schools", nor did it have anything to do with "poverty" because the first rappers had huge, and expensive, DJ and speaker systems. When ghetto kids realized they could just steal a popular song and add their own 3rd grade Doctor Suess tier "raps" to it without the need to be able to sing or play an instrument, they jumped all over that shit. "Black" music has been pretty much shit ever since.

This came out first:
youtube.com/watch?v=Er9xGRolrT4

....and this is what they did to it.
youtube.com/watch?v=WjE4Vxe5-Ak

A king is a tier above a prince.

>He didn't isolate kids from their parents,
did too.
>in fact, in the 'documentary' where the guy says Michael took him on a plane on his own he's lying because his parents were there with him.
that "documentary" lists in pretty exhaustive detail like dozens of times where that happened. Gave the whole family an RV to go to the Grand Canyon so he could have a whole week alone some prepubescent kid. And have you actually even seen the "documentary" or are you just reciting the Jackson estate's messaging strategy right now?
>When people said they slept in the same bed as Michael they leave out the fact that he only let that happen when the parents were present
no they don't they go into detail with how the rooms were laid out. the parents would be "present" in some room at the other end of the floor if it was a hotel, or the other side of the house, etc. He lived in a giant mansion that was designed around having secluded places you could go where you'd have a lot of warning if someone was coming.
>and the bed was ginourmous anyway
lol "he had a giant fuckpad bed so it's cool."
>He often slept on the floor to not be inthe same bed as them too.
according to him lol. And yeah he'd hit it and quit it. He didn't care about cuddles he cared about getting his dick wet.
>Tell that to his exs they all said he was very sexual.
That was exactly my point. He was a fucking pervert.

>poor people pay WAY more taxes relative to their income than rich people.
Yet the poor STILL aren't paying their fair share.

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>Black musicians used to actually play instruments and write songs that weren't just monotonous beats
The discussion was not talking about the origins of rap, user. It was in the past there were musicians.

>Rap was started by no talent DJ's exploiting the popularity of established songs
You're making this up. You have the literal founders of hip hop discussing it started because in-between or the "breakdown" of old school songs people loved dancing to just the beat and they kept extending it to be much longer. Eventually vocalizations were added to it.

>nor did it have anything to do with "poverty" b
Said no one.

>When ghetto kids realized they could just steal a popular song
Again, that's not how it started. For example, a James Brown song will have a section with no vocalization just straight up music. People in clubs enjoyed that and they started extending and looping it.

>listen and believe

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>Literally not an argument.
Yeah it is. Have you spent much time with psychopaths or interacted with many pedophiles? What he was doing was standard stuff. I envy your innocence.
> MJ "groomed" everyone and bought everyone near him ridiculously expensive stuff.
no it was mostly just parents of sexy little boys for him to play with.
>He was so careless about money he spent all he had.
Yeah sociopaths are generally pretty impulsive and don't have a lot of remorse or future planning ability. Pointing out that he was reckless and impulsive doesn't really help your point. If you're smart enough to understand the long term consequences of carelessly burning money, you're smart enough to understand the risk/reward for diddling kids.

god is the king of music and mj is not god
prince however is the prince of music

"Sign o' the Times" fucks all of Michael Jackson's discography in the ass.

as a manlet, i have to go with prince

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I agree about his singing, however, when you look at his early albums, almost 50% of them were written by somebody else. I stand by everything I wrote.

You are probably a psychopath pedophile yourself if you think spending money or interacting with kids automatically makes someone a pedo. Takes one to know one.

Prince was the real kiddy diddler. MJ was fighting against them. Thats why (((they))) attacked him set him up

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why are you such a cuck for your propaganda daddies?

If a poor person is spending 30% of their income on taxes and tolls, and a rich person is spending .05% of their income on taxes and tolls, the rich person is not "paying their fair share." Even if a rich person and poor person were both paying 30%, it's still not a "fair share." Because if you're making $40,000 and paying like $12,000 in taxes. you're being way more fucked than if you're making $40,000,000 and paying $12,000,000.

It cannot be stressed enough that we just cut 2 trillion dollars a year in revenue for literally no reason other than to suck corporate dick. There is no amount of fucking over poor people that will replace that loss. We are barelling towards global economic collapse because bootlicking kikes like you have been trained to shill for the people that destroying your life.

Let's be real.
In Prince's will, he asked Wade Robson and James Safechuck to help take Mikey down so His Royal Badness could become the REAL King of Pop after death.
Magnificent bastard.

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>You're making this up.
No, you're just seething about reality for some reason.

"Rap" was started by no talent hack DJ's hosing neighborhood dance parties, and perpetrated by no talent hack black kids too lazy to learn how to play instruments and sing. Why do any of that when you can steal a song and just talk over it like a 6 year old with some Doctor Suess trash. It's garbage now, was garbage then, and will always be garbage.

How about neither of them were? I've literally never heard anyone accuse Prince of that before so I'm going to assume there is no grounds for believing that. But you're not wrong, MJ was definitely a target after using the word "kike" in one of his songs. They thought they could control him and got BTFO for it.

Paisley Park was understated and affordable to keep up when records sales slowed down. Neverland Ranch was a gauche money pit.

C'mon, guys. Prince's records in the 80's are miles ahead of MJ's. I like Michael, but Prince was a better musician and (a way better) composer.

Are you a Trumpfaggot too? I'm trying to understand what exactly motivates you dindu niggers to have such a hard time being able to identify psychopaths and perverts. How sheltered has your life been?
>You are probably a psychopath pedophile yourself
I like how "hey this guy that was repeatedly accused of pedophilia for decades" always leads to WELL YOUR A PEDOPHILE.

And yeah I am antisocial personality disorder but sexually I'm more into death than kids. Don't have that drive. Being a kid is the best time in someone's life and fucking that up for them seems like a real unnecessary and malignant thing to do.
>f if you think spending money or interacting with kids automatically makes someone a pedo
spending money to essentially bribe parents into leaving you alone with their sexy young son for a week pretty much absolutely is something a pedophile would do. Are you saying that if you were rich and famous, that you'd spend your time and money on a bunch of random parents and spend all your time hanging out with their kids? Because if that's something you're into you're probably a fucking pedophile my dude. It's very weird behavior.
>Takes one to know one.
I guess? To you like every psychologist that focuses on abnormal psychology and psychopathy and sexual deviancy must also be those things?

And you're basically just bragging about being a sheep. The only people that can identify wolves are other wolves and everyone else just gets happily abused and exploited.

what a coincidence that Trump and MJ would be buds. Birds of a feather flock together amirite.

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Off The Wall, Bad and Thriller are better than any of Prince's records.

This isn't an opinion.

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>ywn btfo worldwide jewry with robot arch-angel michael
i miss him so much ;_;7

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>He was a fantastic singer and composer
All true, but Michael owes his signature tone to Quincy Jones. Off the Wall was undoubtedly his greatest album and everything he made past it was influenced by his collaboration with Jones.

>tfw we never got a supergroup composed of Michael Jackson, Prince, David Bowie, Freddie Mercury, and Billy Idol

Supergroups never live up to their hype with the exception of maybe Yes & Genesis.

>not believing unsubstantiated nonsense about michael being a pedo makes me a trump supporter

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man who even cares about his music. thats part of it sure but over all it was about entertainment and spectacle. you know, concerts
youtube.com/watch?v=EKSEktPHjJc

kys you fucking tumblr faggot

my question is what exactly is motivating the jackson pedo-apologists? Do you just really like his music? What specifically is so hard to grasp about the idea that he was a serial child sexual abuser?

Like why do you think that a Peter Pan obsessed rich weirdo that could do pretty much whatever he wanted wouldn't be into kids? He spent his whole life hanging out with kids. He cycled through "boy friends" for his whole life and always happened to "break up" with them after their balls dropped. This behavior wasn't normal.

Like to what extent is it that you think because he said "kike" in a song or turned himself white or whatever? What, specifically, is the autism that makes it so hard to see very obvious deviant behavior for exactly what it was?

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Said the shill for Michael Jackson lol. How the fuck do you think that Yea Forums is the place for MJ shills?
I mean yeah that seems to be the trend among the MJ apologists on this board. "He stood up to the jews" or whatever is the primary motivating factor behind why a lot of polcels seem to defend him. And if you like and have no problem trusting one pedophile it'd make sense that you'd have no problem trusting other ones.

Nice strawman

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Don't do this ever again

>poor people pay WAY more taxes relative to their income than rich people.

Anybody who's actually filed income taxes knows this is bullshit. If you're actually poor your federal liability is usually 0, and if you get the EIC or child tax credits you get a refund for taxes you never fucking paid in the first place so your liability is actually negative, i.e. the government basically gives you free money instead of taking anything from you.

And proportionality means jack fucking shit in terms of budgeting anyway. If someone dirt poor pays 0 in income taxes but $300 in sales and local taxes maybe that's proportionately more than the wealthier guy who pays $60k in income taxes and another 2k in sales taxes but so fucking what? When the money gets reallocated only absolute dollar amounts matters and the guy who forfeited tens of thousands to the government is contributing much more than guy who paid practically noting.

Poor people are not keeping the government up and running. They're a net loss, and it's hilarious to watch them crow about how the people actually getting stuck with the bill aren't doing their part. You'll figure this out for yourself if you ever actually make any money.

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>Billy Idol
not even on the same level. talk about a manufactured pop star

go back

basically, humanity is under attack by psychic vampires, and machine elves, and other other worldy evil entities, and and their always trying to come up into our dimension, but there are some of us that are so good and pure that they can fight back. and Michael was one of those people. And to be honest if we hadn't had Michael it might already all be over, but thankfully was there and fought the good fight for a long time, but it cost him and eventually they got him but we've got things going on now and people are becoming aware, and I think maybe the tides are turning even thanks in part to Michael's sacrifice.

So you have literally zero argument?

And that's not a strawman I laid out multiple questions, based on previous interactions OTB, that have been mentioned before. Some people have mentioned jew shit, some people have mentioned his music. But normally what his shills seem to do, which you're demonstrating, is just counter attack.

Have you spent much time actually thinking critically about this shit?

okay

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I also always admired how he included female musicians in his band and propped up their projects

AYUWOKI

Prince >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>MJ

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>he stood up to jews
Notorious paedophiles.
>polcel
Have sex and maybe you'll stop relating everything to it.
>trump is a pedo
A lot of billionaires and politicians are.

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Both manlet pedos

like his ape cum was near that baby momma

My name is Prince, I don't want to be king
Cause I've seen the top and it's just a dream
Big cars and women and fancy clothes
Will save your face but it won't save your soul

nice reddit spacing nigger.
>Anybody who's actually filed income taxes knows this is bullshit. If you're actually poor your federal liability is usually 0
nope. And in most places in the US you're "actually poor" even if you're making like $70,000 a year. And if you're making $70,000 a year, you're paying a lot of taxes.

Not to mention that sales taxes, property taxes, tolls, and everything else exist regardless of what your income taxes are. Poor people are losing WAY more of their total income on getting fucked by the government than rich people.
>And proportionality means jack fucking shit in terms of budgeting anyway.
I'm not the one that said "fair share" you degenerate kike.
>If someone dirt poor pays 0 in income taxes but $300 in sales and local taxes maybe that's proportionately more than the wealthier guy who pays $60k in income taxes and another 2k in sales taxes but so fucking what?
The rich guy isn't gettting fucked. They still have money at the end of the year that can be saved, invested, or dumped back into the economy. While the poor person is just permafucked into oblivion for no real reason other than idiot bootlicking niggers like you that were trained wrong on purpose. You're destroying the middle class for literally no reason other than you were trained to by very wealthy people.
>When the money gets reallocated only absolute dollar amounts matters
Yeah and we just cut $2 trillion dollars a year in corporate taxes and rich people taxes. You can't make up the difference by gouging poor people. That's just lost revenue.
>and the guy who forfeited tens of thousands to the government is contributing much more than guy who paid practically noting.
nope. $10,000 or $300 is essentially just nothing. They're the same thing. The rich person isn't losing all of their supplemental income to the government, the poor person is. The rich person is literally giving up less and demanding more.

Where the hell did his guitar go at the end?

Twat.

Prince was cooler, period.

heaven

its home planet

I thought Shrinebuilder was great but I'm not sure if that counts since it's a supergroup of niche metal musicians who were only ever considered legendary among a fairly small audience.

>Poor people are not keeping the government up and running
yeah deficit spending is. We're just making more poor people, and making life harder for poor people. We're just destroying upward mobility and shrinking the middle class and stuff. No biggie it's just what always happens when governments become corrupted and start degenerating.
>They're a net loss,
Not really. They are what the economy is. They are what our GDP is. And like look at SNAP benefits, they cost $70 billion a year. Meanwhile we just gave corporations and millionaires a $2 trillion a year tax cut. In terms of "net loss" nobody is costing our future more than the corporations that control the agency of our government. It's all going to collapse and it isn't poor people's fault.
>and it's hilarious to watch them crow about how the people actually getting stuck with the bill aren't doing their part.
How rich are you? You talk like some delusional poorfaggot or daddyfaggot. You're getting fucked by this as much as everyone else. This is destroying your future.
>You'll figure this out for yourself if you ever actually make any money.
I'm a bitcoin millionaire lol. The US is already fucked. It's not going to recover. My 5 year plan is to expatriate. You nigger bootlickers can have your second-world shithole.

MJ was much more popular of course, but the whole Bad era was MJ trying to be Prince because he was cooler

>Notorious paedophiles.
idk if you want to fuck kids you go to Russia or SE asia. Don't think Israel is the place to go for kid diddling.
>Have sex and maybe you'll stop relating everything to it.
I'm a 31 year old divorcee lol. I've been not a virgin for longer than I've been a virgin. Cope more about how you're an unfuckable faggot though qt.
>A lot of billionaires and politicians are.
lol what a degenerate pedo-apologist you are. So if you're willing to admit that "a lot" of rich and powerful people are pedophiles, why is it impossible for you to imagine that MJ could be one?

>prince was cooler
the fuck? fuck off retards. michael jackson was the coolest thing on the planet. prince was just some gay fuccboi

Prince couldn't even compete with MJ and JB
youtube.com/watch?v=1AhvJy6nWBY

>michael jackson was the coolest thing on the planet

If you were some retarded 9 year old, then sure.

Name a song as good as When the Doves Cry

Prince raped more Pizza

I always found Prince creepy. This was back when gays seemed creepy. After I got perspective, Prince was still creepy and now MJ is too.

I dare you to challenge Prince to a game of ball one on one. I DARE you!

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oh I'd go balls deep in his behind if you know what I mean

Fake, but still pretty Vegas-tier, which is what people want in a show for the most part.

Prince was really cool and like Tom Petty it was pretty sad the way he died.

He’s considered one of the best rock guitarists there ever was, how the fuck is he underrated

game.. blouses..

>dont think israel is the place to go for kid diddling
You don't shit on your own doorstep.
>divorcee
Can't even hold a marriage together?
Could you not satisfy your wife?
Do you even have kids?
>pedo apologist
Who am I apologising for?
I've already said I don't support Trump.
My point was that doesn't make him any worse than his opponents.

Always seemed forced and exploitative to me, but I understand now that wasn't his intent at all, and he really did want to emphasize a group of mixed people coming together to make music. Prince and Michael Jackson, both, were conscious of their music being for "everyone", and not just because of commercial reasons. That deserves respect considering the direction blacks were about to take their "urban" music later on in the 80's and 90's.

I Wanna Be Your Lover is the best

>You don't shit on your own doorstep.
Russians and SE asians sure do. And sexual deviancy is a compulsion. If "jews are notorious pedophiles" as a culture they'd be doing it everywhere. Like Catholics. They are diddlin kids everywhere they have priests.

And again, you're willing to make a blanket argument that jews are "notorious pedophiles" but then when someone that built their life around having unmonitored access to kids, suddenly you turn into a dindu.

>Can't even hold a marriage together?
nope. Don't get married in college.
>Could you not satisfy your wife?
Guess not.
>Do you even have kids?
nope.

>Who am I apologising for?
My guestion was directed towards MJ pedo-apologists and you responded. Do you struggle with English?
>I've already said I don't support Trump.
I don't care.
>My point was that doesn't make him any worse than his opponents.
lol le enlightened centrist. What a degenerate cuck. Are you implying that the only thing preventing you from fucking kids is not having money and power?

Prince and Tom Petty are two of the best musicians. Period.

oh geez. grow up.

MJ's music videos were got dang kino, some of the finest ever created. I honestly dont know why this is such a debate here.
youtube.com/watch?v=F2AitTPI5U0

>couldnt satisfy wife and has no kids
Sorry mate, I'll stop arguing with you now cos I feel for ya.
My uni GF cheated on me too, the slag.
>enlightened centrist
I'm right wing as fuck and no one in politics represents me, just saying.

>couldnt satisfy wife and has no kids
It was actually "got divorced because she didn't want kids" but whatevs. I like how you're inadvertently demonstrating my point about pedo-apoligists though. You're fundamentally incapable of self-reflection so you just lash out and make ad homimemes.
>Sorry mate, I'll stop arguing with you now cos I feel for ya.
I'll have no idea when you kill yourself nigger. Do it today.
>I'm right wing as fuck
aka pedo-apologist.

I do agree with him though. Prince is underrated even though he was considered one of the best rock guitarists.

Fucking neck yourself I extended an olive branch and you acted like a nigger back to me.

womp womp

>fucks all of Michael Jackson's discography in the ass.
Poor choice of words

If Michael Jackson fucked kids why do they never mention his abnormally large penis size like some of his exs?

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they do. The one guy in that doc goes into detail about it.

Does he mention 10 inches?
Cos I don't remember that.

when michael's voice comes on whew
youtube.com/watch?v=9nP4WE_-uqE

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he mentions it was a real struggle for his kid mouth to handle. And pretty sure 10 inches is just a meme. Where is that even coming from?

checked
One of the people Michael supposedly diddled said that MJ was circumcised even though the autopsy said he wasn't.
Dumb American thought everyone was mutilated like him.

Definitely.

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