I know it isn't objectively the best movie, but to me The Dark Knight is just absolutely phenomenal and is what I believe to be the best movie ever.
The Joker is such a terrifying psychopath and Alfred's story about how "some men just want to watch the world burn" perfectly shows Bruce that the Joker is unlike anyone he has faced before.
Watching Harvey Dent's descent into madness and corruption is such a beautiful tragedy, very rare to see in movies.
The dialogue feels purposeful throughout the movie with very little downtime. The combat was very good too. The music is absolutely killer too.
It's a shame that The Dark Knight Rises was so meh. The trilogy would be up there as one of the best if not for the final movie.
I know it isn't objectively the best movie...
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Jason Green
I'm convinced that The Dark Knight is as good as it gets. Every single performance is utterly brilliant, everything about the film is brilliant.
I agree that Rises wasn't as good as TDK, but I wouldn't call it 'meh.' It was still Christopher Nolan doing what he does best, make fantastic films. Joker was the antagonist to Batman in the sense of Order vs Chaos, 'watch the world burn.' Joker was everything Batman wasn't, and so made an incredible villain. Bane was still an excellent villain. Where Batman had left the League of Shadows because he felt their methods were too extreme, Bane had been cast out of the League because his methods were too extreme for the League.
I don't think anyone will ever argue that TDKR was the better film, but calling it 'meh' is doing it a major disservice in my opinion.
Cooper Gonzalez
I respect everyone's opinion but here's mine. I just got done watching the trilogy and I have to say I like rises above all. It's a perfect ending to an almost perfect trilogy and deals with Bruce's internal struggles the most. His time in the pit is where he is his absolute lowest. The joker is amazing and deserves upmost respect but also I feel like Hardy's Bane is almost just as good.
"The shadows betray you because they belong to me"
Connor Clark
I like Rises more as well. The scene where he destroys the stadium and the bridges sent chills down my spine. He was there for one purpose and in his mind, nobody was stopping him. It felt real the first time I watched it.
Angel Ortiz
when people say they dont like it they mean more things like Bruces back magically fixing, his wierd leg problem that immediately goes away, him walking somehow back to gotham and setting up the giant fire bat symbol e.t.c
i dont think anyone really saids the plot itself is terrible
Gavin Brown
The timeline in the movie I think makes it seem a lot quicker than it is. I presumed he was away for several months.
If you look at all the movies Bruce is kinda built up to be John Cena when it comes to recovering from injuries.
Getting back to Gotham I presume he's just got contacts around the world through Wayne Enterprises and his underground contacts in Gotham probably helped with the symbol
Zachary Wright
He was away for several months. The movie telegraphs it just fine if people paid attention (it wasn't winter when Bane broke him and sent him to the Pit, it was winter when he came back).
Andrew Lewis
I like the movie for a different reason
I identify with the Joker and find him entertaining
Joshua Morris
It's alright I guess
Ryder Mitchell
Watchmen shits on it. TDK is a meme movie. Doesn't hold up.
Zachary Peterson
I had to Watchman 5 times just to understand it
>Based Snyder
Xavier Bailey
Your opinion is shit and is grounded in shit and is, therefore, wobbly and prone to collapsing (in a pile of shit).
Nathan Peterson
Go away faggot, Nolan movies are sterile and not worth a rewatch. Watchmen is endlessly stylish and full of substance and heart. I'm no Snyderfaggot but he did great here.
Josiah Hernandez
>I know it isn't objectively the best movie
How isn't it?
Jeremiah Price
I love how the movie does such a good job with the joker as a manipulative charismatic psychopath, who's easy to root for with his nihilistic chaos mindset, then undercuts that with dent almost killing a child to show the true horror of the "nothing matters" mindset. It's a redpilled movie in general
Eli Ward
>implying Man of Steel is worth a rewatch.
unironically KYS
Caleb Ramirez
Susan Sontag said that there were three orders of art. The moral, the state of mind, and the purely aesthetic (which is 'Camp'). Most American movies are pure Camp.
The Dark Knight trilogy is rare for being so outside of Camp style that it demands to be seen as a moral statement, or in relation to the character's own state of mind.
Mason Sanchez
When did I imply that? Watchmen is rewatchable, MoS is pretty dull.
Aaron Walker
Snyder usually makes garbage.
Watchmen and 300 are probably the only good movies he's ever directed.
Zachary Adams
Mason Ward
It's probably here that she defines three approaches to art.
Daniel Long
Yeah, the three sensibilities toward art.
Caleb Wood
That's because he copied them page by page from graphic novels lol
Brody Edwards
Was Nolan intending to riff on Aestheticism, Emotionalism and Moralism? I don't know but I'd like to see him return to those basic concepts in another film.
James Bell
Austin Hill
Never have I ever seen a calm discussion taking place on Yea Forums, at all. Bravo Nolan.
Samuel Morgan
Cropped.
Ayden Perry
>116518095
If you had to label those three characters with those three words, how would you do it?
Isaac Hernandez
Aesthetic sensibility: Joker. Essentially a kind of Ruskinite, an American Capitalistic take on the Bloomsbury Group, like its members Duncan Grant or Roger Fry.
Emotionalist sensibility: The Batman. Essentially fragmented, stylistically like Nolan's own films. Sontag mentions artists like Bosch in this regard.
Moralistic sensibility: Dent. Probably representing a lost or underground quality. People compare Bane to the Joker but he's more in line with Dent.
Nathaniel Smith
Uh I don't think I meant 'Capitalistic' in quite that way
Cooper Martinez
How does TDK work with so many villains?
So many other capeshit movies try three or four villains and it does nothing but split screen time thin until none of the villains have enough development or arc.
Yet TDK has the Joker, Two Face, Scarecrow, and all the mob bosses, yet it works beautifully.
Christian Wright
I mean really only Joker and Two Face are important and fully developed
Aiden Gonzalez
I wish it was like that for me, immersion was ruined completely cause I lived in Pittsburgh at the time